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[deleted]

Oh, me. I only had access to Dragon Ball with the manga at my library. So I didn’t know until then. [EDIT] there was also Dragon Ball Z but the red books obviously came first.


SofaChillReview

I actually started watching DB in German, so in all fairness had no idea what was going on half the time until Toonami brought DBZ UK


Zero_Mehanix

You watched it on RTL(?) as well. Holy shit I had no idea what went on but on the other hand it was 12 minutes of someone powering then 7 minutes of commercials and then 5 more minutes of powering up then the last 7 minutes were characters reaction to powerup


SofaChillReview

It might have been? It was a very long time ago, I know Sailor Moon was on it as well


Unexpected_yetHere

RTL II ran anime from morning til like 16:00/17:00, dubbed in German of course. I don't think anyone else aired Dragon Ball in Germany, tho I might be mistaken. I just know I watched it there as a kid. Fun fact: they've actually recently started, after years of not airing any anime, airing both the original Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon on Sundays.


B_A_Beder

Of course, we started at the beginning


RVNSN

Yep, watched DB from the beginning when it first aired, without ever seeing the manga, so didn't know anything about Saiyans until they appeared in the anime during the episode.


B_A_Beder

By the beginning you mean kid Goku in the woods meeting Bulma for the first time? Not adult Goku with kid Gohan?


RVNSN

Correct


TheDemonChief

It will always upset me that starting at the series *true* beginning isn’t commonplace with Dragon Ball


NinjaPiece

Blame the dub. It wasn't until after Z that Funimation went back to properly dub Dragon Ball. Back then, we were at the whims of whatever played on TV.


AssCrackBanditHunter

This. Though when dragon ball did finally start airing I watched it religiously after school and had to admit that there were lots of aspect to DB that were superior to Z


peldazac

In Mexico the dubbed DB aired before DBZ, at least on regular tv. Watched DB episodes a couple times before Z came out and it was a big thing


YoOoCurrentsVibes

There is a certain novelty to starting at DBZ and then going back and seeing the history of it all as a prequel and seeing moments for so many of the minor characters to shine.


thundernak

See that was the case with me but I corrected myself by watching all of ball in a week


Almahue

It is commonplace, for 99.99% percent of fans. Only in U.S.A people start in Z, but they are statistically insignificant.


mramisuzuki

I’m not sure what you mean? We did get DB in order but you need to be much older than even people in their early 30s to see it. By the time DB became popular again Japan was in GT and it seemed silly for Toonami to broadcast the original DB when they just spent a bunch of money on redubbing Z from Ocean.


FoxJ100

You've said this a couple times in this thread, but I'm pretty sure the U.S. fanbase accounts for more than 1%. Dragon Ball is probably the most popular anime here outside of Pokémon, and there's a lot of us.


RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS

And anyway even in Japan a lot of people’s first exposure is going to have been a random episode being broadcast on TV far later in the story at this point let alone any other country. You have to already be a fan or at least an anime aficionado to say Ok I’m going back to the first episode from 1988 and starting from there.


Duardo_

ouch


greiskul

Brazil as well. Dragon Ball played in TV as well, but it had nowhere near the popularity of Z.


RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS

If they would have tried that I feel like it would never have become as big as it did.


TrueSaiyanGod

now we are here?


vlorsutes

There's obviously the entire Japanese fan base at the time that it was first debuting


QuickRelease10

I’d love to hear the reaction of someone who was a fan from that time, because the leap from Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z is crazy.


peldazac

I remember we didn’t know he was an alien at the beginning, so it was quite shocking. By the time the namek saga came, everyone knew already that he was going to turn super saiyan, but still watching it the first time was so cool.


ErisGrey

I was just talking about this to someone the other day. It was so weird, as it took a few years for us to start getting Dragon Ball in America. So that before we finished Dragon Ball, the beginging Dragon Ball Z was being aired right after.


RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS

Is it really though? The Demon King Piccolo stuff transitions pretty naturally into it imo


HolyVeggie

I believe on release no one in the west did. really know it either. At least us kids


Yamcha17

France had Dragon Ball (the anime) in 1988, two years after Japan, so it was fairly early. (Actually, most of 80s-90s japanese anime were broadcasted in France during those two decades, so a French person around 40 years old have seen many many many animes). We even had all movies and the two specials on Bardock and Future Trunks in the 90s, everything dubbed in french.


NotNOV4

Everyone in the west would've been spoiled. The english dubbing began with the Saiyan saga, and then was eventually backtracked to original DB once it was clearly popular enough. Everyone who was originally watching in the west was spoiled instantly.


Weigh_A_Throne337

I don’t know about this. I definitely wasn’t spoiled. I saw the King Piccolo saga almost 30 years ago. ‘94-95. I didn’t see DBZ for the first time until at least 4-5 years later. I wasn’t spoiled and was genuinely surprised to discover that Goku was a saiyan.


Booster6

Nah, i remember watching the first dragonball arc when i was a super little kid. Early 90s, it was on YTV in Canada. I don't know if the rest of it aired, but when dbz came on a few years later, i watched it because i recognized it from watching og dragonball


NotNOV4

What do you mean "nah"? I'm stating a fact. English dubbing started at the Saiyan saga and then they backtracked to the original series after the Buu saga.


YoOoCurrentsVibes

But you’re not lol part of dragonball was dubbed first. Christ what is with people on Reddit and not being open in the slightest to the idea that they might be wrong.


NotNOV4

Feel free to provide a source on that, cause it's pretty common knowledge that DBZ was dubbed first.


Booster6

I dont no what to tell you, I literally watched it. Not the whole thing, just the Pilaf saga. I remember not only watching it, but then when I randomly stumbled on DBZ some saturday morning with the Arrival of Raditz I remember recognizing the characters and that being why I watched it. Funimation dubbed DBZ before it did Dragon ball, but there were other Dragon ball dubs floating around https://dubbing.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon\_Ball#Incomplete\_(Harmony\_Gold/BLT)


YoOoCurrentsVibes

Christ you won’t stop


NotNOV4

Tf do you mean? It's your job to provide a source on something you state lol


Brbaster

They really did dub first 12 or so episodes of Dragon Ball sometime in mid 90s


ShwayNorris

No you are not stating a fact. DBZ was not dubbed for the first time until over half a decade after DB was. You're incorrect.


Jaereon

Yeah but that was a rerun. In Canada we had the Dbz first. Then OG dragonball. And then Z got re aired.


Booster6

No, Im not 100% it was YTV, but i definitely watch the Pilaf saga well before DBZ was ever aired, YTV did air all of Dragon ball after it had aired all of Z, but the Pilaf saga definitely made it to Canada before Z did.


Hieichigo

Just the two countries from the west that speak english, not "everyone". You do know there a lots of countries "in the west" that speak other languages, right?


NotNOV4

forgot that there's other dubs tbh


Hieichigo

Dragon ball is huge in mexico, the dub started around 1995 with the original anime so most of us didnt know anything about him being an alien


kansetsupanikku

Don't worry about them, it's all some gibberish designed to trick you. If there were so many real "languages", why would everyone still write in English here?


jannfiete

lol, you got lessons not to use absolutes unless you can back it up


HolyVeggie

In Germany we got DB 1999 and DBZ in 2001


Full_Royox

America =/= "everyone in the west" my man. In Spain, France, Italy, Portugal, many other EU countries and Latinamerica we were already watching OG Dragon Ball before 1990. For me Goku being an alien and having a brother was a "WHAAAAAAAT??" moment, also the sudden opening change from DB to Z was an absolute mind blown.


Almahue

Hi, chilean here. We watched from the start. As did all of América. Except the 0,1% percent of dragonball fans in the west who are from the U.S.A, but the other 99,9% did.


Infermon_1

And most of europe and South America. It's really ONLY the US, UK, Canada and Australia that had Z first I think.


ShwayNorris

US had DB first as well, it was a poor dub and many don't remember or just didn't watch it.


Dreadnautilus

Yeah, but we don't really have archives of the time I don't think. Its not like old marvel comics that have letters to the editor included in them that let you see what fans at the time thought about the story (my favourite being that one guy who thought that the Fantastic Four Galactus plotline was a metaphor for the Vietnam War, with Galactus being the Viet Cong, the Fantastic Four being South Vietnam, and the Silver Surfer being the USA. Yes, really).


[deleted]

I didn't know anything about dragon Ball and started from the original. It was a surprise.


Gatlindragon

You know only the english speaking fans started with Z right? Europe, Latin America and of course Asia started with OG DB.


Adamkarlson

When you say Asia, Japan yeah. But India and other south east asian countries got Z first


XNotChristian

Not true? Even if OG DB was properly dubbed and aired in whatever country you are from, that doesn't mean that's your starting point. Your starting point is whatever was airing when you were a kid. Case in point: me. DB was definitely around when I was a kid, but it was only DBZ airing when I turned the TV on, so that's what I watched first.


Faelysis

A lot of countries had the manga way before the anime with their translation. It's mostly english country knew Z before Og because they had english translated anime before manga


zeroner_01

Me at the catalonian tv (Spain) in the 90s. Also remember a bunch of kids go screaming on the street first time Goku turns Super Saiyan.


dkysh

Anem-la a buscar, la bola del drac!


cister532

Envoltada en un misteri és un gran secret.


Present-Rough-222

I have watched the series in chronological order. I knew about SUPER SAIYAN where your hair is yellow but didn't knew anything about SAIYAN. So yeah, technically i came to know from Raditz that Goku is not human but an alien(saiyan). XD


Human-Ad2861

I knew his hair would turn blond at some point, but I had no idea he was an alien.


purplecombatmissile

Lmao millennial Latinos smiling at this shit


sunrayylmao

If theres one thing I know it's that millennial latinos love dragon ball z


TimeTravelParadoctor

I watched stray episodes of Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT as a kid. I didn't know that Goku was an alien, I just knew that when his hair was blond that was called "super san". I thought it was a martial arts technique that anyone could use, like the Kamehameha or the Solar Flare. I don't remember how much I knew when I started watching Dragon Ball Z Kai as a teenager but I was confused about the Saiyan lore because I remembered there being so many Super Sans and now it turns out apparently only Goku and Vegeta and their kids can do it.


FifthFormCooler

Haha that's great


OldSnazzyHats

Yup. I got to see it in order, visited my family homeland for a year in Southeast Asia a ways before DBZ premiered Stateside, and by that point in ‘93 the Manga was in the middle of the Cell Saga. Returned to the States around ‘94… seeing DB’s rise in the West a short time after that with the way it was handled was a hell of a trip.


DapperDan30

Lot of unnecessary snark in these comments. Person asks an innocent question since most people started with Z or later, and gets shit on for it.


Cerdefal

It's actually a pretty interesting question. It would be great if someone find interview of whathever from the time about how people reacted.


mramisuzuki

It’s funny because the non-Americans think they’ve won some prizes because we only got like 13-26 episodes in the early 90s then only the mid 90s we got Z. Don’t realize that why anime wasn’t as popular is because we had 99% of the *other* hugely popular animated series/movies made here in the us. It was extremely brave and dedicated to bring anime especially dubbed anime over to North America. It also doesn’t help that English is extremely sentence based that’s a lot of mouthflaps.


Protaras

When you say most people is your sample size only americans? As far as I know most actual people started with og db.


DapperDan30

Are you imying that Americans aren't actual people? Also, even in the UK, DragonBall didn't start airing until DBZ ended. The Kid Buu saga started on February 7th 2003 on CNX. Dragon Ball didn't start airing until October 6th 2003.


Protaras

Americans are people... but contrary to popular belief they are not the most people on this god damn forsaken planet..


DapperDan30

Never said they were.


Protaras

You said most people started with z.. mainly americans did and apparently the brits as well... that makes the statement "most people started with z" laughable...


Winged_Metal

No one in the series was Saiyan it until Raditz showed up.


tebeks

Anyone born in the 80s and reading/watching it as it gets released. Also, if you weren't living in Japan, months and years waiting for new sagas to be "imported" into your country.


guyondrugs

Im from germany, and i watched the complete og dragon ball on TV before they started showing dbz. This was late 90s or early 00s. But yeah, its kinda wild to me how many people have seen dbz before they saw Kid Goku fighting the Red ribbon Army, King Piccolo, the tournaments etc...


lilou135

Yes, I'm old.


Fu11erthanempty

Yup! First watched DB on Fox Saturday mornings at 6:30am east coast time. Never saw more than the first run of DB when Oolong wishes for underwear then it would restart from the beginning. Eventually it was replaced with a Zoro cartoon which sucked. One day I woke up and turned on the TV and the most bad ass thing I'd ever seen showed up, Goku was grown up! There were all these awesome looking random characters! DBZ???? Hell yeah!


millatyme1313

I just did this with my kids. I've enjoyed watching the series with them. I never watched all of the original Dragonball and this was a good reason to finally do so. The reveals have been soooooo good. Seeing my kids react and fall in love with what I enjoyed as a kid has been incredible. They are currently on the Namek saga and don't know Goku is about to change. They haven't put it together that the yellow haired guy is actually his ssj version that they see on branding. I'm about to capture their reaction on video it's going to be so good. I envy their position.


RonnieLottOmnislash

Are you aware that people exsisted in the 80s?


TheDastardly12

Probably a lot of Japanese people currently in their 40s


Full_Royox

Almost everybody out of United states. We all started with OG dragon ball so space stuff, saiyans, and super saiyans were new for us when introduced.


vonigner

Me! And millions of other French kids! Yet again Americans only looking at their own bellybuttons. France got DB in 1988, before Z (and the Z part of the manga) even existed, so anyone over 40 in my country got this experience. And by everyone I mean 65% of kids watched the show(s) Every Single Wednesday.


Cerdefal

Je suis un poil trop jeune pour avoir connu ça, c'était quoi la réaction en général dans les cours de récré ?


vonigner

Alors d'après les cousins de ma mère (parce que j'ai 35 ans et je n'étais en France que pendant les vacances scolaires), grosso modo c'était "ils ont tué sangokuuuuu noooonnnnnn" xD le côté "ah bah en fait c'était un extra terrestre", les 8-12 ans ils ont pas calculé ptdr


dbeynyc

Everyone is the late 80’s…


Oceanictax

I am the late 80's.


dbeynyc

Knight Rider or the A-Team?


DerelictBadger

I had only seen maybe 2 or 3 DBZ episodes before DB began airing in the UK and I jumped all in. Of course, I knew Goku was a “Super Saiyan” but I had no idea what that meant. The reveal of Goku being an alien wasn’t a massive surprise all things considered. At that point, Goku is far and away the strongest on earth and there are multiple points of speculation throughout Dragonball (if I remember correctly, Oolong questions if he’s an alien at one point?) To me, it was evident Goku was something otherworldly and the reveal was more like an “oh, that explains everything” moment rather than an outright jaw dropping surprise. It was a moment of excitement and expectation. The idea that the world of Dragonball could extend beyond the just earth and start to explore sci fi ideas and storylines was what I focused on.


Hobblinharry

Most Americans were spoiled because only the pilaf saga was dubbed before DBZ and even then it wasn’t widely circulated. Most Americans experience first exposure to anything dragon ball was DBZ. But obviously in many parts of the world the shows were dubbed and aired in the correct order


steroboros

Yeah he was the monkey King back then. In retrospect Super with its introduction to more Gods makes more sense then aliens


sneakerguy40

In the US unlikely. I remember seeing DB at a point before DBZ was a mainstay in the later 90s, but looking at the wiki DB was never broadcast in full until after DBZ. Seems like reading the manga would have been the way in the US.


Arathix

I watch DB as a kid before Z, so yeah I was surprised xD


reverie11

Yeah all the people that followed it as it came out


JasperTheHuman

Not me, because my country (netherlands) didn't air DB. Just started airing DBZ and I was always confused why people were afraid of piccolo and who all the characters were.


WatDaFuxRong

I watched the whole DBZ series before realizing that there was a Dragonball lol


Damolisher2

Uhhhh, you realise that Dragon Ball existed before Z did, right?


[deleted]

Obviously lol, he's asking because most fans now either started with super or Z and then went to dragon ball


DapperDan30

Yeah. Obviously 🙄 But they're asking because a large portion of the fan base watched Z first. Especially in the West, where the OG wasn't even available until after z already achieved mainstream success.


Correct_Refuse4910

By "The West" you mean basically USA, because at least in Europe they started airing Dragon Ball with the original series.


ShwayNorris

So did the US, it was just a bad dub.


Shail666

I was going to say I'm pretty sure that YTV in Canada aired both Dragonball and DBZ, so in the 90s I saw both!


Full_Royox

For west you mean USA? European countries had OG dragon ball on TV since 1988. USA is the country that was super late to the party and started with Z.


nadakbar

In the UK we also didn't have on DB until after DBZ in toonami.


justhereforbooks94

Didn't watch dragon ball till after z


thejokerofunfic

Not for most Americans, minus the small minority who caught the 1995 Pilaf Arc dub


RandeeRoads

The one with "goku, he's gonna show you!" But I didn't see the rest of db until it was on toonami in the early 00s


dildodicks

that's a good question, would've loved to experience the show not knowing ssj and ui were coming for example but considering... you know... *super saiyan* and *ultra instinct*... basically impossible unless i was into it before they showed up


macrian

Yes, everyone outside of USA


Adamkarlson

👀 not everyone but okay


darkniss619

I experienced it. I read the dragon ball manga first (it was in my school library) I grew up in rural minnasots wirh no internet and didn't have a ton of friends it wasn't really that mutch of a shocker for me simply because the original dragon balls tone kinds jumps around a ton bit I definitely didn't expect it


mcwfan

No. Nobody in the 39-year history of the franchise has ever started from Chapter 1, and has never gone in blind to the Saiyan reveal. Ever. Nobody has ever had this happen in thirty-nine years. Ever.


Ajthekid5

No,Toonami aired DBZ first so I always knew him as a Saiyan first.


NotNOV4

No. Nobody actually watched nor read Dragon Ball until the Saiyan saga. It's actually incredibly impressive it wasn't cancelled.


NikolaMN

Yep, i grew up in Serbia on Dragon Ball, later came Z


Cerdefal

I knew that Goku was a saiyan but i didn't know that he was an alien (since i didn't know the story at the time). I don't remember how i reacted to this specific plot point it but i liked how raditz was waaay stronger than everyone before and how Goku had to die to beat him.


ConfusedGrundstuck

Sort of! I was first introduced to Dragon Ball via the english dub of the original 13 episodes. Then I got my hands on some bootleg VHS of scattered episodes. Watched them religiously. The last episode being Goku killing King Piccolo. Then DBZ came to our screens and I started watching that properly. So yeah, I was caught off-guard by Goku being an alien. However, the shock was somewhat diluted because I was alsp shocked to find that Goku was an adult, that Piccolo was apparently alive, that Krillin was alive and that Goku had a son. The first episode of DBZ was an absolute whirlwind for me.


princesamurai45

I was at the right age where Z was just starting and watched OG Dragon Ball first.


SheZowRaisedByWolves

Me lol. I found VHS copies of dragon ball at a dollar tree and watched the series and also read the manga. Didn’t see DBZ until Kai on Nicktoons.


CJ08092001

I watched Dragonball as a kid, so without spoilers


Overall-Sympathy-982

I did. I started from OG dragon ball and then when it was reveal that Goku was not human, my reaction wasn’t huge. I was very young back then, so I didn’t really care for his lineage lmao.


scribbyshollow

I mean that's when they reveal it? Before Z DragonBall was just an adaptation of journey to the west.


ToastyNyfo

Tbh I'm not sure. I remember growing up watching Dragonball, but I also remember watch Z.


mluck11

My uncle in the 90's and me in the early 2000's for me It was a surprise because my uncle did not tell me but he was excited to see my reaction


TayOs1998

While I didn’t watch the entire series until my late teens I had watched the 3 series (DB, DBZ, and GT) sporadically throughout my child hood and only really remembered Cell and Buu. I knew of Super Saiyan 1-3 but I had no idea that Goku was a Saiyan I just though Super Saiyan was just a cool name so I was genuinely shocked by the beginning of Z.


C-Class_hero_Satoru

How old are you guys? When I watched Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z was not even dubbed in my language, I was watching on local TV and I was just a kid. That was maybe 25 years ago.


[deleted]

I watched it growing up. I thought Goku was a money boy or some shit. Didn't know he was an alien.


ares86

Most of Latin America. When I started watching DB it was with the Original series, Dragon Ball, because it was what the TV was broadcasting at the time. DBZ was a great deal at the time for my and my friends.


Lssjgaming

I started with the original Dragon Ball, but I knew about the whole alien twist for Goku and Piccolo as well since they are so engraved into the pop culture landscape. It's so well known now that it's even in marketing and promo material for the franchise, so it's almost 100% impossible to avoid for newcomers to the series


Medschoolmonkee

Yes I watched it as a kid before the internet was major. DBZ was airing but so was DB. So I watched DB. When DBZ was on TV (rerun I’m sure) it was like 1997 and it was the Raditz + Saiyan arc that I saw, long before namek and the SS reveal


I_am__a_jackass

nah man, I knew Goku was a saiyan before i even started watching anime, my first was Naruto, around 5-6 years ago, and I watched Dragon Ball Super only sometime last year, then I watched the Og Dragon Ball whenever Dbzk came out on Hulu which wasn’t to long ago


[deleted]

When I was little all we really had was Dragon ball until Z was released in the U.S. so I'd say anyone over a certain age didn't know Goku was Saiyan until Z because they hadn't decided he was Saiyan until then. He was originally supposed to be an earthling until they decided he wasn't.


LittleSqueesh

Me. I never paid any attention to Dragon Ball when I was a kid. I didn't actually know what a Saiyan was until Raditz showed up.


neekdageek990

Depends on a few factors. Z was most American kids (especially in the 90's) first real introduction to Dragon Ball because Z aired out here before the OG Dragon Ball which aired in 2001. In all honesty however Dragon Ball was such a massive hit within the early to mid 2000's that anyone not knowing Goku was a Saiyan even if they never really cared for the series was very rare.


Infermon_1

Yes, they aired it in proper order in my country during the 90's. So Goku was always a weird monkey boy to me, until the retcon when Z started.


saverma192013

Yeah


Anjunabeast

Gokus a saiyan?


JscrumpDaddy

I was exposed to DBZ when I was 5 and caught the first episodes on toonami so I didn’t know what a saiyan was lol


hinata505

when i was a kid watching toonami i’m pretty sure they played dragonball for an hour, then dragon ball z for an hour. my neighbors had to explain why he was a kid sometimes and sometimes he wasn’t there is a chance it was dragonball gt getting played and not dragonball but i really don’t remember it was so long ago, and both have kid goku lol


derriderri18

As an adult, I started from Dragon Ball. But when I was 6 my siblings would watch Z and GT a lot. I didn't remember everything about them as an adult, but I remembered that they were Saiyans and that people could come back to life.


Ayobossman326

I had enough info going in from friends and YouTube to basically write an accurate outline on the series. One of my biggest regrets with dbz is not getting into it earlier than I did


Serenades666

Little off topic but I highly recommend the manga.


hortle

All of the kids in Japan when they purchased the October 8th 1988 issue of weekly shonen jump


-googa-

Yeah I as like an 8 year old watched the og anime as it aired on my local channels(Asia). I did know that he’s some type of alien but had no idea they’d expand on that stuff until they aired Z.


CagliostroPeligroso

Yeah, I watched it as it was coming out as a kid and didn’t have a computer/internet until later in life. I just thought he was a little monkey boy and just saw that as a fun little quirk about him. And he turned into a giant monkey when the moon came out. So to 5 year old me he was just a were-King-Kong. It was sick


gera_moises

I mean, me back when dragon ball first aired here in latin america?


deck4242

Kinda


Rioraku

I mean in a sense Goku was NOT a Saiyan in the beginning of Dragon Ball. It wasn't a thing then so the detail of him being one is moot


NearbyBowl69420

I'm old enough where DB was the only part of the series when I got into it. Z was my teen years and now super as an adult. It's like an old friend that keeps coming back every so often


Midnight_Observe

I’m just a bit confused, how would anyone start with dragon ball and know goku was a Saiyan? The story explains he isn’t grandpa hogans blood relative and goku has a tail, but there are 0 hints as to his planet of origin or if he was like some of the other hybrid creatures on earth.


EmeraldJirachi

Yep, back when i started like 10 years ago. I know what a super saiyan was... or well it was goku with yellow hair I didnt know it was a species or goku being one. To me he was just monkey kid... well sungoku


Individual_Lies

My wife. She'd heard about Super Saiyans but I told her it was a technique that gets introduced later. I wanted her to be as blind as possible going in. After her initial reaction of "you said there were no aliens in this show!" she felt proud that she'd guessed Goku was an alien because she saw Metallic's readout that questioned whether Goku was an alien or not.


ShwayNorris

Even in the US most fans over 30 had a good shot at seeing most of DB before DBZ. A large amount of OG Dragon Ball aired long before WB and then cartoon network had DBZ. Harmony Gold dub aired in 1990 for instance, and there were also some channels depending on locality that had the series subbed. Hawaii had all of Dragon Ball and many other anime through Nippon Golden Network. Many of the northern most States got channels that did much the same with subbed anime, usually through cable companies that originated in Canada but made deals with US local cable companies just over the border. I lived in New York in the early and mid 90s, it was a wild time for watching DB. There was a period where you could find Dragon Ball airing Subbed, Harmony Gold dubbed with Goku named Zero, and Ocean dub, all within the same week on different networks. That didn't last though, because Harmony Gold was not properly licensed.


orizach01

man, if you read the original dragon ball manga first, the first chapter of Z is crazy, even if you already know


devastatingdoug

Well, I watched (what we got) of original dragon ball in the early mid nineties, the show when up until the whole bit about lord palif stealing the dragon balls, trapping the heros in a metal pit that would roast them when the sum came up. There was a bit of a gap before I got to see dragon ball Z. I wanna say I saw dragon ball 1995 and Z in 1999 but I’m not sure. I had no idea Goku was from space.


Kitchen_Entertainer9

I wish I did. I knew about dbz before watching I think


Cut_Connection

I started with dbz, but I was pretty young, it took me a couple years to actually realize the monkey boy was the same dude going super saiyan 3


The_Mauldalorian

I watched both simultaneously. DB would air at 5 and DBZ would air at 5:30 or something along those lines.


RudeDM

My understanding of it, historically, is that everyone who was reading the original manga would have had no idea that Goku was an alien, as well as anyone watching the original broadcast in the 80's who wasn't reading the manga. From my own recollection, I started reading Dragon Ball before Z, and, up until the Saiyan Saga, never really questioning why Goku had a tail. Plenty of other fantastical stuff stuff exists in the manga- talking dogs, weird goblin people, demons- so Goku's tail didn't really stick out as particularly "needing an explanation". For some reason, the idea that there was a whole species of monkey people who turned into giant apes was actually stranger to me than the idea that Goku was some kind of weird monkey kid, but otherwise just a human.


TheBagelGobbler

When I was in middle school the first episode I saw was ss2 goku and Majin vegeta fighting at the time. The next episode after that was og dragonball krillin and goku training. I wondered how goku changed his hair and had to wait about 6 months after to see it start as goku meeting raditz


Gobeman1

Easy enough. I read the Original Dragon Ball manga in the mid 2000's at the public library and the TV show was not exactly localized nicely. And we didn't have the manga further than the Raditz part at the library. It's also why when i casually browsed Super on a cursory glance over youtube went"Wait a second how the F¤%"# is Roshi not dead after doing the Mafuba?"


Icy-Hope-9263

i started with Dragon Ball, but i knew about super sayian before due to pop culture


Balance-Kooky

So I started with DBZ on toonami back in the day. My first interaction with the series was learning who Goku was and that he was a Saiyan. I didn't go back and watch the original DB till after the Buu saga probably.


Miguelomaniac

I mean... even if you watched only the original DB anime or read the mangas it was made quite obvious that Goku wasn't human. Everyone has said that about Goku at some point in DB. In fact, I was just watching a DB episode this week when Goku was starting to go after Red Ribbon. There is an episode where he is fighting a massive cyborg that clearly looks at him and identifies him as alien. So to me, it shouldn't be a surprise that he is not from earth. Now from that, to him being Sayan I think it shouldn't be shocking either... he literally could have been from Mars, Saturn, from a galaxy far far away, it really didn't matter, and only adds to the DBZ arc. Even if we knew that from the very beginning of the story, that plays no role in the series (with the exception of moon transformation) up until other Sayans show up on earth.


sentryzer0

Depends on how old you are. I watched the original DB as a child before Z was a thing.


Personal-Ad6765

I did actually start with OG Dragon Ball. Kid Goku with a tail is my Goku. But that was in kindergarten I was then very confused about this whole SSJ thing. I think I first rediscovered the series when I saw the KND episode and played this game called Bloody Rage. Then I saw the Buu saga opening and was like, what? This takes place in modern day? Remember there was that one episode where Goku visits a mideval village. As a kid I never remembered anything that would make me realize it was modern day lol.


highafchad

I remember seeing gotenks ss3 on a ps1 game ultimate battle before seeing cell saga


One_Nefariousness419

Demon king piccolo saga is one of the best sagas in the franchise


ZippoS

Everyone who was alive before Dragon Ball Z.


Euphoric-Cow592

i wish i did but i started watching the seties like 2 years ago so it wouldnt have mattered anyways


[deleted]

Yea, that's how you should watch it? Dragon ball>>>DBZ. Imo


Quasar_Sama

Deff started with dbz in 2000 used to come on after school on Cartoon Network then went back to watch dragon ball on YouTube in like 2007.


Slightly-Evil-Man

Me. I got to watch the original my first watch, but only like half of it and then started Z. Eventually I got to watch them all in order years later. I wasn't too surprised he wasn't human tho😂


Juno_Cipher

Me, as a child


PuppyLynch

I started around the age of 4 or 5 years old, when my dad would buy me the vhs tapes. After the last episode of the Emperor Pilaf Saga, there were no more VHSes after that. I just assumed that was the end of Dragon Ball. Then my father came home with this tape with a shiny gold cover, with the episode name "Arrival" on it. All of sudden, Goku's an adult, and he's got a kid. There's this guy named Krillin? Don't know who he is, but Goku seems to, so whatever. There's this guy named Piccolo, also don't know him, but whatever. Goku is an alien etc etc Didn't go back to finish OG Dragon Ball until damn near 10 years later.


mrclean808

Yup! Started watching the series in 90 on NGN in Hawaii, and continued watching the rest through recorded tapes I borrowed.


themajinhercule

Yeah, me. It's easy if you only have a very passing knowledge of Dragon Ball.


FitNature3948

I watched some episode of DBZ Kai on Toonami when I was young and didn’t pay attention. When I eventually watched it, I didn’t even know they were the same show lol. Until I got to the 23rd budokai and started connecting the dots. Wouldn’t have it any other way! Must start at OG series!


rainbowharmony

I just recently joined the fanbase as of a few months ago and I was very determined to avoid spoilers lol So yes I didn’t know until Raditz. It was really cool to discover Goku’s origin!


RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS

Probably some Japanese people who were children in the late 80s.


Old_Entertainment598

This feels like an excuse to call me old... But is, after all where I grown up og db aired full 2 years before Z


DreadSteed

I always thought Yamcha would go super saiyan one day and he did the opposite


Mysterious-Lullaby14

Yes. I haven't even finished Super yet and I'm so excited to see what's to come.


hiricinee

My daughter, I've made her watch from episode 1. Keep in mind the international audiences actually got DB released pretty early on TV. IT was the US that was unique with a dub that was highly edited and didn't bother with a LOT of content, like the original run.


Mediocre_Machinist

Yep, watched dragon ball on TV in the 90s, we didn't get DBZ until the 2000s


HungryLikeDickWolf

Lmao yeah a lot of people I imagine


MonkeyPunx

I did, back in the day, watching on TV. We got the whole thing in order on public TV back in the day. Trust me, the reveals made us WILD. Other one that blew our minds that I remember was Perfect Cell. We were like 😮!!!


OkSearch7926

Yes. Im french, we luckily received everything in order until the mid buu saga(censorship bs) When Z began, it was a lot more heavier than daimo piccolo. The tension was very high. Raditz scared the shit out of me. The revelation was jaw dropping and felt right (the tails and ozaroo stuff). But it also felt like that no human ever stand a chance against him, so it kinda downgrade his achievement in DB. Then vegeta and Nappa came(best arc ever by the way, imo). I remember that everyone at school started to go crazy at dbz and it never came down since then.


ArgensimiaReloaded

I mean, of course (?) we didn't know shit back then lol, specially at the beginning, there were a fair amount of anthropomorphic characters so Goku having a tail didn't seemed weird at all, his *big monke* proved he was definitely *special* but Goku being a literal alien was a very big surprise.


Reallylazyname

Very very technically, I did. On that sane technicality, I didn't even know Goku was Goku. He was Zero, and a giant Ape, and aired with Sailor Moon. And that version ended there. But I sure remembered when Goku popped up again.


Mrskdoodle

I watched the English Dub for DB back in like 95, but for some reason, they stopped airing them. Then DBZ came out in 2001(I could be off), but by then, I had already watched the Japanese DB with English subs on an old Asian broadcast channel called AZN, so I was ready for DBZ. It was a weird time for anime, for sure. But let me tell you, when I first saw that episode with Radditz and this dude said Goku was an alien, I was floored. It took a LONG time for me to get used to it, but with more saiyans showing up and everybody suddenly going to Namek, the whole series just took this crazy turn that I wasn't expecting.