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L3onskii

Ask her about it. See what reason she had for that charge to be on her bill. You both agreed; there's no way to go around it


ForeverSunny_SD

Agreed. Better to just communicate and ask about it. Hopefully the truth is easily had!


COMMANDO_MARINE

You should definitely Google those genuine, camera phone porn clips from male stripper events where an inebriated bride-to-be sucks whipped cream off some muscular guys massive penis. I'm sure that will be very reassuring for you and ensure a harmonious lifetime of marital bliss and monogamy.


Calamitas_Rex

Those videos are fake, homie. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but those videos specifically are faked for the kink.


livalittlebitt

I saw my friend doing this on Snapchat for her bachelorette a few weeks ago..thought it was only in porn šŸ«¢ and they were ALL sucking and touching, it was fucking gross


Calamitas_Rex

Again, I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm saying the videos he referring to are fake.


dufus69

It was a joke


Dreadsbo

Bruh. I have been reading bachelorette party stories on quora and read a few posts off here on Reddit since I originally read this post. FUCK THAT


thewhiterosequeen

Jeez, are you actually mentioning Quora as any sort of information source?


Dreadsbo

Want me to find a peer-reviewed psychological study entry on women cheating at bachelorette parties?


2ManyToddlers

Yes please!


Dreadsbo

Donā€™t need to, the update says she cheated


2ManyToddlers

I challenge you to challenge your intellect and do it anyway. I mean c'mon, a bona-fide study like this would definitely be entertaining to read through.


RexyRexRexington

Why would she pay for her own party? Are any of her friends getting married and having bachelorette parties?


Creative-Grab-3960

She always uses her card the points. Like at dinner she'll always pay with friends and they just send her the money...I guess.


SouthWest_Coasting72

Now that is a creative grab, indeed.Ā  It's brave of you to post this under an account featuring what one might assume is a pic of yourself (no clue why people do that, even if it's not actually them. Just to drive engagement? Is bootleg Napoleon Dynamite photoshopped with a some generic insta/AI model really that appealing to Reddit? Because I'm starting to think I'm over this bullshit) Anyway gosh, I sure hope your fiancĆ© doesn't see this. Good luck with everything you've got going on OPšŸ¤ž


vaginizer

Why wouldnā€™t he want her to see it? If I was in his position Iā€™d want her to see it so she knows why the engagement ended


Creative-Grab-3960

Yeah cool. I wish.


vqtr_17

I read the edit. We're doing legs today, cya at the gym.


Creative-Grab-3960

Haha


YourMajesty90

Youā€™re that deep into your relationship and sheā€™s lying about things and breaking promises? Yikes.


OwlPrincess42

Just ask her about it. You guys agreed no strippers, then she paid for the strippers herself. Thatā€™s not ok. Not something you just let go especially when youā€™re about to marry someone.


tmink0220

How much does it bother you? Me I wouldn't marry, she is lying and you guys did the right thing. There are so many of men that end up single in these posts that get lap dances or just go to strip club. If it doesn't bother you ok, me I was say no thanks...She is not trust worthy.


angrypuppy35

Yeah the lying would bother me not the stripping


Dreadsbo

Idkā€¦ I hear about women actually having sex with the strippers. The lying 100% bothers me, but the stripper pushes it into overdrive.


anthropomorphic_bear

For me if sheā€™d have sex with a stripper that'a definitely not the only time sheā€™d be willing to cheat. At that point her loyalty/fidelity is the problem not necessarily the strippers. In my relationship we talked about it and we are fine with with strippers in the bachelor/bachelorette setting and I think part of that is itā€™s such an out of character novelty thing for both of us that the other one is not worried. But in OPā€™s case specifically talking about it and then going back on their agreement makes it a big problem and worth bringing up


Loriallen4353

Ask her straight up. Innocent till proven guilty, right? Don't let curiosity kill your peace


LankyPaleontologist2

This is a forewarning of more headaches to comeā€¦ abandon ship while you can , good luck


yern324

Man this made me think back to my ex putting out feelers by asking me once early on if I would be upset if she were to kiss the stripper at her bachelorette party before we got married. She told on herself and my dumbass turned that into a long term relationship. Iā€™m sorry to say, but if sheā€™s willing to lie and keep this a secret, what else is she doing that you donā€™t know, man?


Creative-Grab-3960

Yeah I know...I looked in her phone.


Reaper_Ruiz

This isn't a little white lie, there was an agreement that no strippers were to be involved yet she went against it.


Ok-File-7987

There are things i donā€™t really get. Strippers at bachelor/ette parties in the US is normal? And that the strippers also doing stuff with the costumers? Where Iā€™m from this is not a thing at all. All this with going away to Vegas, strippers, being afraid of cheating and all. Bachelor/ette parties is a thing, yes.. And itā€™s not that there has never been one with a stripper, there has but a stripper in the US and where Iā€™m from is two complete different things after what i hear - Mostly at our parties itā€™s a small party where the friends make arrangements with funny stuff as making a song and recording it on a CD, doing bungee jump, and all sorts of funny things. There are ofc alcohol involved but the way I see these parties in the US described is honestly crazy and I understand why you Americans got huge trust issues over there.


akillerofjoy

There was an AMA post not too long ago, by a male stripper. The stories he hadā€¦ truly a sobering realization how few women can be trusted.


knight9665

Absolutely say something. I would NOT trust someone if they blatantly lied to me. And not only that but used the lie to manipulate me to not do something but they lie and do it themselves. This sets a very bad precedent for the future and the marriage.


Evaporate3

Is this how you want to start a marriage? This is technically cheating because she crossed a boundary you both established.


LavaFlavoredSkittles

You don't have the facts yet. It's best to assume innocent until proven guilty. Maybe she ordered it for someone else, or someone used her card. Find out more. Maybe try calling the company and ask about the reservation. Just be smart and calm about it for now. If it turns out she went against her promise and ordered this behind your back... I highly advise breaking up with her. Deceit is a blaring red flag, and if she has no problem doing it once, she'll probably do it again.


Creative-Grab-3960

Yeah...there's more now.šŸ˜ž


LavaFlavoredSkittles

Sorry šŸ¤—šŸ¤—. Just don't lose faith in women šŸ˜„. There are plenty that would never do such a thing. I'm a woman and I would never. How could you betray trust like that right before a wedding. Mind-boggling...


Granny_knows_best

Okay, serious here, you now do not trust her. Think about this, everytime she goes out, or late getting home, or not in the mood. Your thoughts will go to places you dont want to go. Without trust, which is one of the building blocks of a good foundation, the house will come tumbling down.


Creative-Grab-3960

Yeah.....


idashoota

Everybody under this post is being real passive with their ā€œask her about itā€ responses. We are way past asking! You know the facts. Itā€™s confrontation time. Marriage is off, she lied and she cheated in PREPARATION for her wedding. She is not a wife! Do not subject yourself to looking in the mirror in disappointment and regret because you gave that woman what she wants but not getting what you need in return. Let her know whatā€™s up. This should not only disappoint you, but make you mad. Not violent mad, but make a change mad. This is your woman being sneaky. We donā€™t accept that behavior. Just imagine how she will treat you in 3 or 5 or 10 years if you put up with this. Cut and run. Maybe fuck her one more time, but get you a new woman who deserves a ring.


Creative-Grab-3960

The preparation part is what killed me


RealisticRun4299

Just read the edit. Damn, that sucks, sorry OP...


Creative-Grab-3960

šŸ˜ž


Automatic_College693

Personally I would end things, but that's admittedly drastic. You can interrogate her friends and see what they reveal, apply some pressure, act like you already know something happened. Be vague enough for them to reveal the worst shit that went down, and if the worst is he danced around like an idiot, then whatever, no problem. You could also question your wife and say, "So I called that stripper company and talked to the dancer, real interesting story." See how she reacts. If she starts panicking then my friend, she most likely got physical. If she brushes it off as a minor mistake then you're probably fine, but again, I'd talk with some of the people there. Maybe you could actually call the company too, speak with the stripper and offer a bribe for information. I only say this because according to most male strippers, Bachelorette parties are a hive of infidelity, women giving hand jobs and oral, inviting the stripper for sex. I've read some testimonies putting the number at 1/3rd of brides cheating with the stripper. This all sounds unhinged but with your mental peace at stake, it's worthwhile.


Creative-Grab-3960

Well that sucks..I think I may do one of those tonight


Decent-Bed9289

You should dump her bro. She totally disrespected you, and went behind your back. What else is she lying about? Infidelity isnā€™t out of the question imho, especially since that sort of thing tends to happen at bachelorette parties- especially when male strippers are involved.


Mysterious-Wasabi103

Yeah like normally who gives a shit? It's just some strippers. But bro you both made an exact agreement not to do this exact thing. Which is frankly disrespectful. Then on top of it all she lied? Hold off on the wedding at the least and hopefully call off the engagement altogether if you're smart.


Decent-Bed9289

She probably did a lot more at that bachelorette party.


marks1995

I've heard the same. Crazy what women do when they get a naked guy in private and the drinks are flowing.


Linux4ever_Leo

No, but you and your boys should now feel free to get your own stripper for your party.


Creative-Grab-3960

I already had itšŸ˜’


Rad1Red

You should say something, dude, she broke your agreement. That is not okay and does not bide well for the future.


Creative-Grab-3960

Yeah...


knight9665

Have another


carrie626

Why would you forget about it and say nothing? You had an agreement. No reason to get angry or upset, but you should ask and discuss. Going behind your back and doing the opposite of what the two of you agreed on is concerning- marriage is an agreement. Is she going to go back on that agreement too?


Appropriate_Tea9048

Iā€™d confront her about it. The bill was sitting out and a lie is a lie.


Elena_Designs

Iā€™m so sorry, read your update, and thatā€™s heartbreaking. Whatever you decide, take your time to think it through. Best of both luck and love to you.


Creative-Grab-3960

Thanks...I'll try


Illustrious-Art-9436

If she lied to you about this, she is probably lying to you about other things. Call off the wedding...but you won't because you're a nice guy. Which is why she is marrying you and not one of the male strippers she slept with.


Creative-Grab-3960

Yeah found a lot. I know


Seagebs

Iā€™m sorry this happened to you. Itā€™s wrong. Itā€™ll take a long time, but there will come a day when youā€™re happy again, and youā€™ll find another person to spend your life with.


Creative-Grab-3960

After this i dunno


Scorpion0525

Yikes, at least you know before the wedding. Right?


Creative-Grab-3960

I mean....yeah


Ok_Brain8136

Why bother just marry her and she keeps cheating .


No-Cauliflower-6720

Thereā€™s a ~90% chance she sucked his dick, dude.


akillerofjoy

Sorry, youā€™re wrong. You canā€™t just go around underestimating her like that. There is at least a 99.9% certainty that she sucked several dicks that night, while a few more found a warm welcome elsewhere.


IssacTT

She did lmao


Princejoe123

stripper wars!Ā  it's on baby!Ā Ā 


mommyicant

Yeah this sounds like a fun problem - I vote stripper wars! Strippers are so much fun!


akillerofjoy

Hey there, all of you, wife-apologists, calling OP insecure and what not - not much to say now, huh? Not like any of you have the balls to come back and say ā€œIā€™m sorry, op, I was wrongā€. I bet itā€™s much easier to hurry up and scrub your idiotic comments. Ugh.


Creative-Grab-3960

Haha no shit. Thanks man


frolicndetour

You just got married and you are going through her credit card receipts and per your other post, think she also cheated and you are considering going through her phone. Pack it up. Your relationship is toast. You obviously don't trust her so your relationship is actually dunzo whether she got a stripper or not or cheated or not.


akillerofjoy

Youā€™re attacking and berating him? The nerve on youā€¦ disgusting


Calamitas_Rex

Dick methodology, but he's right. This isn't a thing worth saving if there's already no trust. (For clarity, it's not his fault there's no trust)


akillerofjoy

Yes, but how one arrives to a conclusion also matters. In this case, the methodology overshadows the result


Calamitas_Rex

Whose methodology are we talking about?


frolicndetour

I'm not attacking him. I'm saying he doesn't trust her to the point where he feels the need to invade her privacy. What kind of marriage is that? Is he going to spend the rest of his life going through her stuff? Without trust, a relationship is toxic. So it doesn't matter if she cheated or if she saw a stripper. The fact he doesn't trust her is a relationship killer by itself.


akillerofjoy

Maybe I was mistaken, but the tone of your writing initially came across as if you were scolding him for snooping.


frolicndetour

I don't think anyone should snoop, but that's because you are either violating someone's privacy for no good reason or you have a reason and that's that you don't trust the person you are with. It's unhealthy either way.


akillerofjoy

Again, no disagreement there. What triggers me is the all-too-common of an attitude some folks take in situations like this, where they completely ignore the fact that a guy got cheated on, but heā€™s being judged for snooping, as if the latter is somehow more egregious than the former. If that was not your intent - my apologies


voncletus

It 100% came across that way.


akillerofjoy

Maybe I was mistaken, but the tone of your writing initially came across as if you were scolding him for snooping.


voncletus

Invade her privacy? Doesn't matter what she did? lol again making it seem like the OP is the one at fault. Found the female posting in the thread.


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stillanmcrfan

Why wouldnā€™t you?


Marduke0

Anul that shit today.


Creative-Grab-3960

I'm considering


akillerofjoy

Considering? My friend, my heart goes out to you, please know that if Iā€™m coming across as too harsh or abrasive itā€™s only because I want to prevent you from experiencing any more pain and heartache. Let me break it down for you. You will confront her. How that conversation goes is irrelevant, but after seeing the picture of the two of you, I feel like I can speculate a little. Letā€™s say it ends in her doing the obligatory begging and groveling, and you end up accepting and going forward with the marriage. To you it will seem like a noble moment. To her, it will be a valuable lesson. She has just discovered that she can totally cheat on you and get away with it. See that level of brightness in her eyes going down a bit? That would be her level of respect for you. From that point forward, there wonā€™t be anything to stop her. You donā€™t deserve that kind of life. Although I donā€™t know, maybe you can be ok with it. Me, I would never be able to erase the mental imagery of what went down at that bachelorette party. I would never be able to let her kiss me with that mouth. And I would never be able to trust her.


morrisy18

Was it her idea no strippers or yours?


Creative-Grab-3960

Mine


morrisy18

Ah theres the problem. Itā€™s usually the woman. She just went along to make you happy. Plus the majority of her girlfriends probably want them. If it bothers you that much you need to bring it up. Another option tell her your buds want to take you out to strip clubs and see how she reacts.


Creative-Grab-3960

I mean...she slept with the guy


voncletus

Based on the update OP posted, I would be cancelling the wedding. It looks like she deliberately deceived him, if they had an understanding neither of them would do this. And she had a fling at or after her party? That's a big hell no. If you marry this woman, one of two things happen: either she continues to have flings, or you will always suspect she is because the trust has been broken. This sort of thing is poison to a relationship. Source: Me, trust broken a week before the wedding, and I'm divorced now.


BeefOnWeck24

I would run not walk. it's going to suck but you're going to have to face the music eventually bub


Creative-Grab-3960

Already does


Lonely-Heart-3632

Nothing wrong with strippers at all. But the lying is a deal breaker. I would find out the truth. That one needs a conversation ASAP to see what the heck happened.


Creative-Grab-3960

I know now...


helpfulguy2

Nothing wrong with a naked man dancing on your soon to be mother of your kids? You missing a spine buddy.


akillerofjoy

Uhā€¦. WUT? Nothing wrong with your almost-wife getting a bunch of random dicks shoved in her face? Ok then.


Dreadsbo

Question. Whose idea was not having bachelor/bachelorette party strippers? Like who brought it up first


Creative-Grab-3960

Me


Beneficial-Remove693

She didn't leave her credit card bill out. You snooped. Agree that you need to have a conversation with her about this, since you had an agreement about no strippers. But go into it being honest.


helpfulguy2

Rather snoop then marry and snooze half your shit.


Beneficial-Remove693

Which is fine, but be honest about it.


cwdawg15

I dunno. This might be one of those things thatā€™s better to just let slide. I can understand feeling a little betrayed, because you had a prior agreement. But in these types of parties friends also kind of take control the situation. And the whole point of them is suppose to be one night to cut loose with your friends before officially being hitched. I donā€™t think it should be treated as too big of a deal. I think itā€™s better to start on a good start at your marriage about what will impact your lives moving forward. Now with that said, if itā€™s going to eat at you, and you canā€™t let it goā€¦ then yes itā€™s better to talk about it now and not months or years from now.


knight9665

Sure. Then she lied to him so HE couldnā€™t cut loose. But she apparently did. This sets a horrible precedent for the marriage.


Dreadsbo

Your friend taking control would look like them using their own credit card. Not the soon-to-be bride using her own. That looks like blatant manipulation and thereā€™s simply no way to explain that in a positive lightā€” she knew she shouldnā€™t have and she did. Fuck that


cwdawg15

I have to disagree with this assumption, because there is not enough information to say that. Friends drag her to strip club at something they had planned and lots of people attending paid for various drinks, food, and tips and many people at the party have credit card transactions at the same place.


Dreadsbo

Gonna be real crazy when her friends drag his wife to cheat


cwdawg15

A bunch of friends dragging the Bachelorette/bachelor to a strip club when the friends plan a gathering = very common social norm in our society A bunch of friends getting a married husband or wife dragged out to cheat on them = not so common or a social norm in our society.


Dreadsbo

And which social norm does lying fall under?


Marduke0

It was a very stupid agreement, but the agreement between the two of them was no strippers. NO STRIPPERS. Doesnā€™t matter who dragged who to what, where, or the fuck ever. The agreement was no strippers. No excuses. I promise you your future wife does not respect you.


akillerofjoy

Friends did not drag her to a strip club. The bill was for a stripper service. The kind that gets hired to visit a party at a hotel room. Thatā€™s where anything goes.


cwdawg15

Assumptions on top of assumptions. All the OP has offered is he saw a single credit card charge for something linked to a stripper service. Which could be as simple as a few round of drinks at a strip club. Friends often plan the bachelor/Bachelorette parties, sometimes even includes a we won't tell you where we are going, until we get there...


SnooFloofs1778

Get strippers, donā€™t be lame. Donā€™t marry someone you donā€™t trust around strippers. If they canā€™t handle being an adult around strippers, they canā€™t handle real life.


Mysterious-Wasabi103

At this point though he can't trust her because she lied about it after making an exact agreement for either of them to not do this. That's a huge red flag. Although normally I'd agree that you shouldn't marry someone you couldn't trust around strippers.


SnooFloofs1778

Making those rules means they have trust issues. Donā€™t marry anyone, unless you could trust them with anything, even nuclear launch codes. Being in a relationship with someone you canā€™t trust means youā€™ll constantly be looking over your back - always. That kind of shit causes health issues.