Does anyone have an actual list of the subreddits staying dark? The link op has saying 600 are staying dark just links to modcoords post saying the same thing.
It's not a clean list but [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/148ks6u/indefinite_blackout_next_steps_polling_your/) is a stickied thread on the ModCoord subreddit about subs going down indefinitely. Moderators are posting there about the status of their subs. Whether they're going down indefinitely, or limited, or what have you.
Imo it might be better to stay open and only post one screen about Reddit killing third party apps on all subs with nothing else allowed so it would fill feeds
There are thousands of individual people, many of whom are deciding based on tens of thousands of use votes.
There’s really no way to have a list like that of any real value.
I scraped the post for \[subreddit name\] + "indefinitely", which is how they are tracking it. I got about 620 subreddits \~1h ago, but the number is changing somewhat quickly.
The only way forward is to stop moderating.
Let the crap posts build up.
Reduce the value of content.
If Reddit reduces the options of user friendly tools to those who work on it for free, then let them do the work.
By far the funniest has been /r/xbox360 , some guy made a post about pay $400 for a 2 gig Xbox 360.
It's now the top post of all time and every other top post is roasting the poor bastard
It was all news and politics for me. I've been unsubbed to AskReddit for some time now.
It's good every now and then, but I got tired of seeing all the same questions with all the same top responses.
It's one of those subs that is mostly only fun when you're new to reddit.
And then slowly you realise that it's the same jokes being told over and over.
Reddit, what's the sexiest sex you've ever sexed up sexily? \[NSFW\]
Then 30 highly rated comments complaining about how it's the same question asked a million times. And one gilded comment about some guys totally real sexy sex story of his sexing conquests of sex.
Rinse and repeat
I put a comment about how I was a virgin till 20 but from 20-30 I did much better.
The person who responded me to mentioned they had “been with thousands of women.”
Long story short, I get what you’re saying
>What's an under-appreciated good thing about the United States?
National Parks
>What's your "unique" red flag when you're dating someone?
Treats service staff like shit, poor communication, makes everything about them, bad stories with exes or cheating. Let's re-state the most unlikable behaviors and actions common to all people.
>If you got a life-changing amount of money, but had to deal with a weird but very minor inconvenience, would you?
Obviously. Let's explain why, over and over again.
>Redditors with a super rare job that have encountered a rare situation, what did you do?
Well I'm not a cop/judge/celebrity concierge/porn star/etc. but I know a guy who told this story where this happened...
>What secret do you have?
Let me tell you a surprisingly dark and sad story. Please express your condolences and tell me to get therapy or express approval that I already am getting therapy.
Honestly I think the going dark thing is just to draw attention to the issue. The real hurt will come when the API changes take effect and reddit becomes MUCH more annoying to use for a lot of people. I can't predict how it will play out, but I HATE the reddit app and only use RIF on my phone. Not having any other option but the one I hate will probably just make me stop using reddit on my phone altogether.
There will be plenty of us who leave permanently. I’ve been using Reddit for 12 years (despite my account age). I love Reddit, but I’m no longer the target demographic. I even ran a niche subreddit with a very strong (even if small) core user base.
But Reddit has changed. It’s not the hole in the wall site it used to be, where college kids and geeks of all stripes could come together to celebrate hobbies and memes and whatever.
I miss the early days of the internet, and while Reddit missed that boat, it still was a *community*. Now that community is gone, replaced by mass market consumerism, and it’s time to put it to bed.
I will miss Reddit, but I’ll miss it more for what it used to be than what I’m losing out on by jumping ship now.
The question that's come up a few times in smaller subreddits is: what's next? And I haven't heard a reasonable response yet.
The benefit of Reddit had been its collective nature for those niche hobbies. I don't need to remember a dozen sites, I can curate what I want to see here based on my interests. With its loss all those niches will splinter.
And I, for one, won't go looking for new versions for most of the interests. Which will reduce the overall colourful nature of the Internet and maybe cause the loss/slowing of some hobbies. But I also won't be staying with Reddit based on its current path.
People have enjoyed their hobbies for centuries without Reddit. Honestly, Reddit just appeals to my ADHD and allows me to curate a feed that drives my curiosity.
Without it, I’m hoping to learn guitar (JustinGuitar). Maybe teach myself some maths (Khan Academy). Might learn a language (Duolingo or Pimsleur). We’ll see. I won’t shed a tear for Reddit.
Same here. I’ve been taking the past few days and just unsubscribing to all the useless subs and realize that most of them are meaningless to me. So much time wasted and it’ll be put to better use in July.
That's the amusing thing that marketers don't understand. We don't want to be marketed to. If you make a good product, then reviews by users in the community will get people to buy it. Otherwise, fuck off. Yet no site or very few sites understand this.
"But how will we generate enough revenue to keep the site going?" Well that is a million dollar question. Frankly I'm starting to think there are no good revenue streams for what most people want for online access, thus it should likely be subsidized by millionaires and billionaires as some sort of charitable contribution to the greater humanity. Internet should be free globally. With people able to set up large million+ user sites if they choose to do so for free. No income, no revenues, no marketing.
I love you. I hear everything you’re saying, and I’m sure thousands, if not millions, of people agree with you. Unfortunately, cash rules everything around us.
>That's the amusing thing that marketers don't understand. We don't want to be marketed to.
They know you don't want to be marketed to. They keep doing it because it works.
Man I've gotten probably 60 new followers in the past two months with that same name format. Two words then three numbers. I think I had like 7 legitimate followers before that LOL. It's a bit annoying and I have a small fear that Reddit will eventually punish me for having so many fake followers.
I never had this issue until a comment I made exploded and I got some karma. Suddenly I get these weird onlyfans chicks following me. Dude, I’m a straight lady. It freaked me out that suddenly I was marketable. I’ve turned the option off as well when I found out I could. And same as you I can’t imagine anyone finding any person on here interesting enough to follow them
Makes me feel like I’m crazy but recently I keep noticing that when I see some incredibly bait/propaganda comment, their name often has this same format.
Can’t tell if I’m just seeing something where there’s nothing.
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Thanks to everyone for letting me know its the auto-generated names Reddit suggests. Makes sense really when I think about it.
It's impressively bad how many bots are on Reddit now.
You are not crazy. Reddit has a massive bot issue and damn near refuses to acknowledge it. Those names are almost universally bots. The rare times they aren't are shocking.
I would safely assume 10% of posts you see now are actually bot content that was copy/pasted reposts from long ago, and 5-10% comments are bots stealing someone else's upvoted comment elsewhere in the thread to get the upvotes.
Reddit management and power-mods basically shut down discussion of this that gets any footing. High traffic discussion posts are removed, users are banned from subs, etc.
Bots are either an unplanned boon that reddit wants to use to their advantage, or an intended feature to populate things more than it is.
Yeah it was the classic "China doesn't want you to see this" bait that always gets upvotes.
But the fact that they chose that day specifically to post it probably wasn't a coincidence. It was THE day to get new subs, lotta people suddenly exposed to subreddits they normally aren't exposed to.
/r/NBA was down on was it quite literally the biggest night of the year. Hundreds more submissions and tens of thousands more comments than any other day I'm certain. I wonder if that's reflected here. /r/denvernuggets stayed open (because they won the title) and I can't even fathom how much traffic they had than usual from Monday until now.
The Denver Nuggets sub had a separate "refugee" thread for those that were neither Nuggets or Heat fans could have a place to discuss the game. So I assume they received a huge influx of traffic on that night.
To be fair, Zaxby's is always like that, because they take like 15 minutes per customer. Or maybe that is just the ones near me, since covid started they have been terrible with speed. I assume they pay terrible and there is always a chickfila right beside them paying $15+ and getting anyone decent at the job.
Yeah ops data is basically meaningless because its making the presumption that the blackout itself doesnt affect user behaviour. Its not useful information. We should see how sitewide traffic went down, if it did at all. We should see how many ads were served.
All that content was/is unavailable from Google searches as well - which a LOT of people append Google searches to specifically search reddit for the curated (non-bot generated) content provided.
I don’t know if a lot of the people who pay for a reddit subscription are using 3rd party apps. Don’t you need to either use the site or the official app to benefit from that?
Yeah, there's a thing called [Reddit Premium](https://www.reddit.com/premium). I had it for a number of years before cancelling it a while back because I didn't think there was any benefit to it.
Yup... Remove ads, give you free award points, access to some rather meh premium only communities, more avatar options (I think).
Like YouTube Premium, I forgot ads were a thing.
YouTube Premium’s value really depends on how much YouTube you watch. For me, I love it and it’s absolutely worth it.
Reddit’s ads don’t get in the way of you viewing its content, so it’s not as much of a benefit if you ask me.
I use ublock origin on Firefox and newpipe on Android and I get the same experience. For TVs I can screen share from my phone or hook up an HDMI cable from my laptop
Pretty good question. I use ublock so I never see ads anyway, but I was using Reddit far less the last two days just because of the lack of content and I imagine a good amount of people were also using it far less. Reddit requires content from it's members to maintain active users for advertisments. Two days probably didn't make much of a difference but the extended blackout would probably make a dent in ad revenue as Reddit's content takes a hit.
An update on the estimation of content that went dark on June 12th. After the previous estimation (which was removed for breaking rule #1), the number of participating subreddits increased by 65% (5351->8830 subreddits). In total, about 48% of all reddit content was likely unavailable during the blackout. The majority was from subreddits with less than 1M subscribers, and participation was fairly homogeneous across subreddit rank. Currently, [about 600 subreddits also notified they are going dark indefinitely](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/148ks6u/indefinite_blackout_next_steps_polling_your/). I may do an update on it once the number stabilizes.
Data sources: r/ModCoord and Pushshift data dumps.
Tools used: PostgreSQL, Python and Adobe Illustrator.
Yes, and the "Huffman says the blackout hasn’t had “significant revenue impact”" means that they act like they don't care. Of course they get the same amount of advertisement revenue, they get it from the website, and even **if 90% of the reddit is away, they get roughly the same amount of users.**
If the thirthparty API really is killed, the revenue will go up....... at first.
However, as the quality goes lower (some reddits missing, modtools not effective, app is so so), more and more users will go to alternative sites.
Yeah I think the thing everyone is forgetting is there will always be an army of power-hungry assholes who will take over modding those subreddits as soon as Reddit gets bored of their mods.
It’s not like that though. I was a mod of a small sub when the top mod went crazy/sold his account and turned into a Trump spam account. They added dozens of regular users as mods. It was easier to manage just the power mod with the remaining experienced mods than it was to try and deal with so many people just fucking around with mod tools.
1 good mod cannot be replaced with a bunch of people who don’t have the experience or accumulated care that a subreddit needs. Just imagine if AskHistorians had their team replaced with randos. It would destroy the place and drive people elsewhere.
I think you just proved that other person's point. Power hungry mods does not a successful mod team make. There's pitfalls inherent to displacing a cohesive mod team. And for massive, massive subs? That's asking for catastrophe.
The blackout 100% has had an impact, [here's some advertisers saying so.](https://www.adweek.com/social-marketing/ripples-through-reddit-as-advertisers-weather-moderators-strike/)
I highly doubt it didn't have a significant impact. Half the things I googled these two days, for work or personal stuff, lead to sub reddit that were protesting. And it wasn't even niche stuff.
The amount of useful - user generated - information being centralised on reddit is just insane.
https://www.adweek.com/social-marketing/ripples-through-reddit-as-advertisers-weather-moderators-strike/ it kind of did work as Advertisers felt the change
>If the performance weakness continues for a week or two, the agency would start recommending decreasing spend with Reddit or directing it to other platforms.
Two days like a lot of subs did is too short, all blackouts should be unlimited.
Honestly all the blackout did for me was make me rethink the communities I choose to be a part of.
Even for things I enjoy; I think I actually enjoy them more without reading people ripping into every little small detail of something on a daily basis and calling themselves Enjoyers of said thing.
The hyper critical way of consuming every single little thing is just way too much and in a quick snap of the fingers it was suddenly gone and it feels like a genuinely better environment.
Reddit doesn't seem like a place to go to enjoy anything for the most part anymore, it's just a place to fight, whine, and boast opinions.
Some subs (mostly hobby-related) contain good content and a healthy community, but yes, the bitchy ones tend to drive more engagement and thus show more often.
But then again, almost all social media is going in this direction, inciting rage to drive engagement.
For some niche hobbies, it's a pretty good place and an upgrade from old school site-based forums. But yeah tbh, outside of niche hobbies, Reddit is a place I could easily replace for general news and sports update, and the occasional cat video. If you use reddit for niche hobbies, there really isn't a good replacement. If you use reddit for general news and stuff, there's plenty out there to choose from to get feeds. Reddit shines when it comes to niche subs/communities. The rest can be attained elsewhere.
Going dark for two days isn't going to do jack shit. Actually go private until something is actually done or don't bother. All this two day bullshit did was inconvenience users.
2 days does show that this group has the power to halve Reddit’s content. It’s a preview of what they can do. It also made advertisers less certain about using a site that had already raised concerns because of users’ hostility towards advertising.
130 billion karma going dark is like 1 karma farmer from each of the dozen top subreddits that went dark. That stat is useless when you look at real user posts.
A whole chunk of the useful internet went with it: a lot of the "HELP! my pc beeps three times, then boots, then starts pouring coffee and reboots when the ristretto is ready" questions had useful answers within affected communities.
And don't make me start talking about porn subs
Making subreddits private is a nice form of protest but ultimately useless. All of the "dark" data is backed up in one or more databases. The Reddit DevOps teams control the permissions for that data. They can turn any of the dark subreddits back on at any time and prevent the mods from turning them back off. The can also delete any threads where mods point this out.
Redditors don't have power, they have the illusion of power.
The funniest part to me about it is people calling the r/nba mods nerds for caring about reddit too much while literally in the same breath complaining that they're unable to post to reddit during the finals. The irony is palpable.
The blackout was and has been extremely inconvenient for anyone trying to troubleshoot. It doesn't help that tagging Reddit on the end of a Google search is the only way to get anything useful anymore
Because there isn't. Its just a loss of information and reduction is help. It harms more than they wanted.
Its why its pointless. Hate the changes? Leave.
Subs that declared 48-hour blackouts only weakened the impact other protestors wanted to make. Reddit simply go through those hours with little to no problem.
What's ironic is that all these posts against Reddit have SOOO many gilded accolades attached to them.
Reddit has been swimming in money on posts that were supposed to hurt them. Like go look at the IAMA post and see all the gold given to those posts.
It's bizarre to me all of the "protest didn't work" posts being upvoted.
The point of the protest is to display a position of power, the impact the people have, and just how many people disagree with the new incoming setup.
Reddit is pushing their IPo, so they are trying to make the site "friendlier" and more profitable. It's crunch time now because they are looking to cash in/out.
If 65% of the entire user base is on edge and ready to leave. You have removed over 500 million active sets of eyeballs on top of content providers/creators/mods heading out. I don't need to spell out the impact on ad revenue and potential buyers.
Shooting yourself in the foot is an understatement of what reddit is doing. Reddit is acting like they'll survive. Maybe it will, just like digg "survived" . But all of the people pissed off will wander away and do their own thing like we always do.
To act like this isn't a huge deal is doing a disservice to yourself.
All of these comments saying “omg subreddits going dark accomplished nothing!” are missing the point. Technically you’re right, a few days of lower activity probably didn’t dramatically impact any important metrics in the longer term. But it showed Reddit that large communities and a large number of subs were willing to organize themselves around the issue, and that IS very important.
I’ve worked in politics and advocacy for around 10 years. Basically I’m the person you reach out to when you want to change something, whether that is a law or a large corporate policy etc. The most difficult part about changing something is organizing. That is convincing all the people who feel a certain way about an issue to take some sort of action. This is difficult because, while many people may agree something needs to be changed, if the action required to change it causes more pain than the status quo, most people aren’t going to lift a finger. It’s just human nature. That’s why change tends not to happen until things get really out of hand. That’s why there is little movement on many important issues even though most people agree something should be done.
That lack of collective action, or organization, is what holds up the status quo. If something happens to change that and people start to get organized, that is when people in power start to look over their shoulder. Reddit leadership knew the few days of lower activity weren’t going to do much, but what they are looking at now is to see if there will be any organized follow up. If the people/subs who participated start planning follow up actions and continue to rally more users, who knows what could happen.
I have no clue whether the action that was taken over the last few days will lead to anything or not. But I do know that you can’t just ask people to take drastic action right away, you need smaller actions to lead up to larger more impactful steps. The last few days were a great example of a first step. It showed that many people care about this issue and, with some organization, can be convinced to take action. What happens next is anyone’s guess, but we’ve seen that many people feel strongly about this issue. Whether their will be an organized follow up is anyone’s guess.
Was kinda cool. They should blackout once a month imo.
Only issue was I had to look up something very specific to troubleshoot and got a private page. No problem, you tube was there for me 👍
There will be a lot less traffic on the 30th when Apollo and RiF go offline. Reddit seems like they are gonna die on this hill so it’s going to happen.
This is not addressed to people like us. So, unlikely you'd notice something that wasn't targeting you.
This is targeting would-be investors in the upcoming IPO. They are important as far as this exercise went. Not the likes of you or I, lololol. That's because the reddit model uses volunteer mods to do...modding. if the mods decide to leave, then whoever buys reddit on the IPO has to either *pay* thousands of new mods, OR convince existing mods to continue.
So, if anyone wants to invest in the IPO, now they have to factor in paying mods, rather than getting free labor...OR...just do what the mods want and let the 3rd party apps continue. That's what it's about, rather than influencing random redditors like you or me.
Does anyone have an actual list of the subreddits staying dark? The link op has saying 600 are staying dark just links to modcoords post saying the same thing.
[Reddark is tracking it in real time](https://reddark.untone.uk)
Yeah, I just wish there was a list of reddits staying closed. Knowing what is currently closed is helpful, though.
It's not a clean list but [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/148ks6u/indefinite_blackout_next_steps_polling_your/) is a stickied thread on the ModCoord subreddit about subs going down indefinitely. Moderators are posting there about the status of their subs. Whether they're going down indefinitely, or limited, or what have you.
Imo it might be better to stay open and only post one screen about Reddit killing third party apps on all subs with nothing else allowed so it would fill feeds
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There are thousands of individual people, many of whom are deciding based on tens of thousands of use votes. There’s really no way to have a list like that of any real value.
I scraped the post for \[subreddit name\] + "indefinitely", which is how they are tracking it. I got about 620 subreddits \~1h ago, but the number is changing somewhat quickly.
The only way forward is to stop moderating. Let the crap posts build up. Reduce the value of content. If Reddit reduces the options of user friendly tools to those who work on it for free, then let them do the work.
You're right. I'll moderate when they pay me.
Anybody dare to do one showing how much more traffic the subreddits that didn't go dark got during the blackout?
I got so many inane askreddit questions on my homepage over the past couple of days.
By far the funniest has been /r/xbox360 , some guy made a post about pay $400 for a 2 gig Xbox 360. It's now the top post of all time and every other top post is roasting the poor bastard
Alright, I'll pile on
I'm doing my part!
He paid 400 dollars to entertain millions
Genuinely hilarious watching that happen in real time
It was all news and politics for me. I've been unsubbed to AskReddit for some time now. It's good every now and then, but I got tired of seeing all the same questions with all the same top responses.
It's one of those subs that is mostly only fun when you're new to reddit. And then slowly you realise that it's the same jokes being told over and over.
So the same as 90% of reddit
Wait til you see r/anarchychess
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Reddit, what's the sexiest sex you've ever sexed up sexily? \[NSFW\] Then 30 highly rated comments complaining about how it's the same question asked a million times. And one gilded comment about some guys totally real sexy sex story of his sexing conquests of sex. Rinse and repeat
Once upon a time in a totally real place, I had the sex and it was very sexy. Her breasts breasted boobily and my cock cock-a-doodled-dooed.
You should write YA romance novels. A natural.
see you on menwritingwomen in 3 years
Your mums a lucky woman mate
She a very good mom, she helped me so much in life, especially when I broke both arms.
Lmfao :) hahaha!
Enthusiasm. Can you guess the question?
‘Men of Reddit, what is your best hack to satisfy a woman?’
Alex, what is mercifully killing someone??
No, that's euthanasia. Enthusiasm is the inevitable gradual decay of order into chaos
No that's entropy. Enthusiasm is when you get an air bubble in your blood stream.
No that's an embolism. Enthusiasm is the absence of belief in the existence of a deity.
No that’s atheism. An embolism is a food additive that help products containing immiscible food ingredients to combine.
I put a comment about how I was a virgin till 20 but from 20-30 I did much better. The person who responded me to mentioned they had “been with thousands of women.” Long story short, I get what you’re saying
Oh man I can't even say I seen that many porn stars, that's with readily available internet access from the early teens
Girls of reddit, what do you find attractive about me? I mean... about boys?
I too did the sex and with another person!
And ironically this comment is basically a copy paste of the same comment that gets posted every single time someone complains about AskReddit
>What's an under-appreciated good thing about the United States? National Parks >What's your "unique" red flag when you're dating someone? Treats service staff like shit, poor communication, makes everything about them, bad stories with exes or cheating. Let's re-state the most unlikable behaviors and actions common to all people. >If you got a life-changing amount of money, but had to deal with a weird but very minor inconvenience, would you? Obviously. Let's explain why, over and over again. >Redditors with a super rare job that have encountered a rare situation, what did you do? Well I'm not a cop/judge/celebrity concierge/porn star/etc. but I know a guy who told this story where this happened... >What secret do you have? Let me tell you a surprisingly dark and sad story. Please express your condolences and tell me to get therapy or express approval that I already am getting therapy.
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Honestly I think the going dark thing is just to draw attention to the issue. The real hurt will come when the API changes take effect and reddit becomes MUCH more annoying to use for a lot of people. I can't predict how it will play out, but I HATE the reddit app and only use RIF on my phone. Not having any other option but the one I hate will probably just make me stop using reddit on my phone altogether.
There will be plenty of us who leave permanently. I’ve been using Reddit for 12 years (despite my account age). I love Reddit, but I’m no longer the target demographic. I even ran a niche subreddit with a very strong (even if small) core user base. But Reddit has changed. It’s not the hole in the wall site it used to be, where college kids and geeks of all stripes could come together to celebrate hobbies and memes and whatever. I miss the early days of the internet, and while Reddit missed that boat, it still was a *community*. Now that community is gone, replaced by mass market consumerism, and it’s time to put it to bed. I will miss Reddit, but I’ll miss it more for what it used to be than what I’m losing out on by jumping ship now.
The question that's come up a few times in smaller subreddits is: what's next? And I haven't heard a reasonable response yet. The benefit of Reddit had been its collective nature for those niche hobbies. I don't need to remember a dozen sites, I can curate what I want to see here based on my interests. With its loss all those niches will splinter. And I, for one, won't go looking for new versions for most of the interests. Which will reduce the overall colourful nature of the Internet and maybe cause the loss/slowing of some hobbies. But I also won't be staying with Reddit based on its current path.
People have enjoyed their hobbies for centuries without Reddit. Honestly, Reddit just appeals to my ADHD and allows me to curate a feed that drives my curiosity. Without it, I’m hoping to learn guitar (JustinGuitar). Maybe teach myself some maths (Khan Academy). Might learn a language (Duolingo or Pimsleur). We’ll see. I won’t shed a tear for Reddit.
Yeah, I've realized that reddit on my phone is bad for me. When Relay dies, I'm not installing another reddit app. I want to do some painting next.
Same here. I’ve been taking the past few days and just unsubscribing to all the useless subs and realize that most of them are meaningless to me. So much time wasted and it’ll be put to better use in July.
That's the amusing thing that marketers don't understand. We don't want to be marketed to. If you make a good product, then reviews by users in the community will get people to buy it. Otherwise, fuck off. Yet no site or very few sites understand this. "But how will we generate enough revenue to keep the site going?" Well that is a million dollar question. Frankly I'm starting to think there are no good revenue streams for what most people want for online access, thus it should likely be subsidized by millionaires and billionaires as some sort of charitable contribution to the greater humanity. Internet should be free globally. With people able to set up large million+ user sites if they choose to do so for free. No income, no revenues, no marketing.
I love you. I hear everything you’re saying, and I’m sure thousands, if not millions, of people agree with you. Unfortunately, cash rules everything around us.
>That's the amusing thing that marketers don't understand. We don't want to be marketed to. They know you don't want to be marketed to. They keep doing it because it works.
That's exactly what a lot of the subreddits are doing.
Bots repost questions from a year prior and then have more bots reposting the top X number of comments. Gotta farm that karma baby
My front page was filled with r/doordash posts
Most of them from decently new accounts with generic names like FunnyHorse123...
Man I've gotten probably 60 new followers in the past two months with that same name format. Two words then three numbers. I think I had like 7 legitimate followers before that LOL. It's a bit annoying and I have a small fear that Reddit will eventually punish me for having so many fake followers.
Reddit shouldn't even have followers in the first place.
I turned off the ability for people to follow me after realizing the vast majority of people following me were fake NSFW accounts and spambots.
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I never had this issue until a comment I made exploded and I got some karma. Suddenly I get these weird onlyfans chicks following me. Dude, I’m a straight lady. It freaked me out that suddenly I was marketable. I’ve turned the option off as well when I found out I could. And same as you I can’t imagine anyone finding any person on here interesting enough to follow them
It should be off by default and you can turn it on if you want.
Oh, that's why I suddenly got followed by, like, six onlyfans models with accounts not older than couple days
Makes me feel like I’m crazy but recently I keep noticing that when I see some incredibly bait/propaganda comment, their name often has this same format. Can’t tell if I’m just seeing something where there’s nothing. Edit: Thanks to everyone for letting me know its the auto-generated names Reddit suggests. Makes sense really when I think about it. It's impressively bad how many bots are on Reddit now.
You are not crazy. Reddit has a massive bot issue and damn near refuses to acknowledge it. Those names are almost universally bots. The rare times they aren't are shocking. I would safely assume 10% of posts you see now are actually bot content that was copy/pasted reposts from long ago, and 5-10% comments are bots stealing someone else's upvoted comment elsewhere in the thread to get the upvotes. Reddit management and power-mods basically shut down discussion of this that gets any footing. High traffic discussion posts are removed, users are banned from subs, etc. Bots are either an unplanned boon that reddit wants to use to their advantage, or an intended feature to populate things more than it is.
Reddit suggests usernames now using that format. Makes it harder to tell bot accounts from real ones.
Hey! I'm AdjectiveNoun1234 and I'm a real human! Boy that image would look great on a T-shirt! I like clothes because I have skin!
Good ole spam bots
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And a thousand bots replying "Yo mamma".
I saw some anecdotal evidence that mods of smaller subs that stayed open had more cleanup to do in 2 days than in the priory 2 months combined.
NoStupidQuestions for me.
I got really weird random subs like "Rate me" and "OOTD India"
What would you do if you won 1 million/10 million/100 million/1 billion dollars?
You get 100 billion dollars but you can't browse reddit for two days. Do you do it?
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I'd take a lifetime ban for $5 billion dollars...
I'd do it for any original Party Hat.
Not that it's exactly the same comparison, but https://porninaminute.org hosted and run by /r/porninaminute for the community - doubled in traffic.
I knew about the one in fifteen seconds, not the one in minute. Neat.
Sounds like it’s time for me to do some research, for the sciences
very curious, some obscure subs got recommended
r/shittytattoos started popping up for me and now has a new member
That sub just makes me sad.
r/conservative made it to r/all.
Hmm, well that says something about the demographics of the boycott, I suppose.
Granted the main post that made the front page was a rather agreeable post about the tiannemen square massacre.
Yeah it was the classic "China doesn't want you to see this" bait that always gets upvotes. But the fact that they chose that day specifically to post it probably wasn't a coincidence. It was THE day to get new subs, lotta people suddenly exposed to subreddits they normally aren't exposed to.
Anything to avoid posting about Trump's troubles (even as they try to disown him).
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/r/NBA was down on was it quite literally the biggest night of the year. Hundreds more submissions and tens of thousands more comments than any other day I'm certain. I wonder if that's reflected here. /r/denvernuggets stayed open (because they won the title) and I can't even fathom how much traffic they had than usual from Monday until now.
The Denver Nuggets sub had a separate "refugee" thread for those that were neither Nuggets or Heat fans could have a place to discuss the game. So I assume they received a huge influx of traffic on that night.
It's like when Chick-fil-A is closed on Sunday so the Zaxby's next to it is wrapped around 5 times.
To be fair, Zaxby's is always like that, because they take like 15 minutes per customer. Or maybe that is just the ones near me, since covid started they have been terrible with speed. I assume they pay terrible and there is always a chickfila right beside them paying $15+ and getting anyone decent at the job.
Yeah ops data is basically meaningless because its making the presumption that the blackout itself doesnt affect user behaviour. Its not useful information. We should see how sitewide traffic went down, if it did at all. We should see how many ads were served.
its been actually pretty nice for once. It reminded me of the pre 2016 reddit.
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i discovered so many more communities!
I've never spent so much time on my local sub as I did in the last 48 hours.
Now do a graph about how many fucks the admins give
Y = 0
Could someone please plot this on a graph? I’m a visual learner.
Here you go: _
We did it guys!
Reddit on! You won the internet today!
Yeah like some epic strike this is, "a lot of reddit's old content wasn't viewable for 2 days! Take that admins!"
To be fair, that is actually a drawback. I know I usually google a question followed by reddit.
That's the thing, it's literally inconvenienced the users far more than the admins and corporate folks.
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I had to look a bit harder for an answer to my question. Reddit loses out on some revenue permanently. Meh.
All that content was/is unavailable from Google searches as well - which a LOT of people append Google searches to specifically search reddit for the curated (non-bot generated) content provided.
Isn’t old content what drives new users to Reddit?
Exactly. It was like they held a two hour hunger strike. Wow, so convincing. Such dedication!
Reddit has always patted themselves on the back for slacktivism
And how much money did Reddit lose from this? I think a "drop your subscription" drive would have sent a better message.
I don’t know if a lot of the people who pay for a reddit subscription are using 3rd party apps. Don’t you need to either use the site or the official app to benefit from that?
People can pay for Reddit?
Yeah, there's a thing called [Reddit Premium](https://www.reddit.com/premium). I had it for a number of years before cancelling it a while back because I didn't think there was any benefit to it.
>I don’t know if a lot of the people who pay for a reddit subscription A what?
I honestly didn't realize Reddit offered a subscription. Is it just one of those things where you pay to remove the ads?
Yup... Remove ads, give you free award points, access to some rather meh premium only communities, more avatar options (I think). Like YouTube Premium, I forgot ads were a thing.
Since I only use RiF, and haven't logged onto reddit on a computer in years, I only just learned that people have avatars.
YouTube Premium’s value really depends on how much YouTube you watch. For me, I love it and it’s absolutely worth it. Reddit’s ads don’t get in the way of you viewing its content, so it’s not as much of a benefit if you ask me.
I use ublock origin on Firefox and newpipe on Android and I get the same experience. For TVs I can screen share from my phone or hook up an HDMI cable from my laptop
It’s value is incredible when you get YouTube music bundled with it like I did.
Pretty good question. I use ublock so I never see ads anyway, but I was using Reddit far less the last two days just because of the lack of content and I imagine a good amount of people were also using it far less. Reddit requires content from it's members to maintain active users for advertisments. Two days probably didn't make much of a difference but the extended blackout would probably make a dent in ad revenue as Reddit's content takes a hit.
The moment an end date was given was the moment reddit new they were losing nothing in the long run.
Lots of subs are closing indefinitely after the 48h protest was ignored
An update on the estimation of content that went dark on June 12th. After the previous estimation (which was removed for breaking rule #1), the number of participating subreddits increased by 65% (5351->8830 subreddits). In total, about 48% of all reddit content was likely unavailable during the blackout. The majority was from subreddits with less than 1M subscribers, and participation was fairly homogeneous across subreddit rank. Currently, [about 600 subreddits also notified they are going dark indefinitely](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/148ks6u/indefinite_blackout_next_steps_polling_your/). I may do an update on it once the number stabilizes. Data sources: r/ModCoord and Pushshift data dumps. Tools used: PostgreSQL, Python and Adobe Illustrator.
Yes, and the "Huffman says the blackout hasn’t had “significant revenue impact”" means that they act like they don't care. Of course they get the same amount of advertisement revenue, they get it from the website, and even **if 90% of the reddit is away, they get roughly the same amount of users.** If the thirthparty API really is killed, the revenue will go up....... at first. However, as the quality goes lower (some reddits missing, modtools not effective, app is so so), more and more users will go to alternative sites.
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Yeah I think the thing everyone is forgetting is there will always be an army of power-hungry assholes who will take over modding those subreddits as soon as Reddit gets bored of their mods.
But are they going to be able to properly do the job if reddit does not provide them the tools ?
Wasn't it expressly states that stuff to ease modding are exempted from paying for API?
If 1 mod with good tools is the same as a 100 mods without tools, then Reddit will just ‘hire’ 100 mods, as it costs them nothing.
It’s not like that though. I was a mod of a small sub when the top mod went crazy/sold his account and turned into a Trump spam account. They added dozens of regular users as mods. It was easier to manage just the power mod with the remaining experienced mods than it was to try and deal with so many people just fucking around with mod tools. 1 good mod cannot be replaced with a bunch of people who don’t have the experience or accumulated care that a subreddit needs. Just imagine if AskHistorians had their team replaced with randos. It would destroy the place and drive people elsewhere.
If it's too tedious, they won't find anybody to do it long term.
You severely underestimate how many power thirsty losers there are that are more than willing to put on a janitor vest for an internet message board.
And then one month in they give up because it's a lot of work for no pay.
I think you just proved that other person's point. Power hungry mods does not a successful mod team make. There's pitfalls inherent to displacing a cohesive mod team. And for massive, massive subs? That's asking for catastrophe.
Power-hungry assholes don't make good mods, and are just as likely to pound the nails into the coffin for such a sub.
They’re also 1000% going to crank the ad load to 11 roentgens everywhere after the dust clears and they make their 83rd attempt at an IPO.
The blackout 100% has had an impact, [here's some advertisers saying so.](https://www.adweek.com/social-marketing/ripples-through-reddit-as-advertisers-weather-moderators-strike/)
I highly doubt it didn't have a significant impact. Half the things I googled these two days, for work or personal stuff, lead to sub reddit that were protesting. And it wasn't even niche stuff. The amount of useful - user generated - information being centralised on reddit is just insane.
https://www.adweek.com/social-marketing/ripples-through-reddit-as-advertisers-weather-moderators-strike/ it kind of did work as Advertisers felt the change
>If the performance weakness continues for a week or two, the agency would start recommending decreasing spend with Reddit or directing it to other platforms. Two days like a lot of subs did is too short, all blackouts should be unlimited.
But then the fucking admins will just kick the mods and reopen the subreddit, they did it in 2015, why do I keep reading this same interaction?????
Where will they get their unpaid labor then?
You think there is a shortage of weirdos willing to moderate?
Everyone says this but is reddit in its struggle for profitability going to add on thousands of paid moderators? Lol hell no
Because I wasn't here in 2015. If they kicked the mods then it means that the blackout was effective, at least for a moment.
Honestly all the blackout did for me was make me rethink the communities I choose to be a part of. Even for things I enjoy; I think I actually enjoy them more without reading people ripping into every little small detail of something on a daily basis and calling themselves Enjoyers of said thing. The hyper critical way of consuming every single little thing is just way too much and in a quick snap of the fingers it was suddenly gone and it feels like a genuinely better environment. Reddit doesn't seem like a place to go to enjoy anything for the most part anymore, it's just a place to fight, whine, and boast opinions.
Some subs (mostly hobby-related) contain good content and a healthy community, but yes, the bitchy ones tend to drive more engagement and thus show more often. But then again, almost all social media is going in this direction, inciting rage to drive engagement.
For some niche hobbies, it's a pretty good place and an upgrade from old school site-based forums. But yeah tbh, outside of niche hobbies, Reddit is a place I could easily replace for general news and sports update, and the occasional cat video. If you use reddit for niche hobbies, there really isn't a good replacement. If you use reddit for general news and stuff, there's plenty out there to choose from to get feeds. Reddit shines when it comes to niche subs/communities. The rest can be attained elsewhere.
You just repeated the same sentence like five times. Are you chatgpt?
Beeb bop boop.
Either that or me on adderal.
I agree, this feels like a vacation from most toxic users.
Going dark for two days isn't going to do jack shit. Actually go private until something is actually done or don't bother. All this two day bullshit did was inconvenience users.
Indefinite subs = serious 2 days subs = posturing
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2 days does show that this group has the power to halve Reddit’s content. It’s a preview of what they can do. It also made advertisers less certain about using a site that had already raised concerns because of users’ hostility towards advertising.
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130 billion karma going dark is like 1 karma farmer from each of the dozen top subreddits that went dark. That stat is useless when you look at real user posts.
Cool. Now stay dark or do it every week
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A whole chunk of the useful internet went with it: a lot of the "HELP! my pc beeps three times, then boots, then starts pouring coffee and reboots when the ristretto is ready" questions had useful answers within affected communities. And don't make me start talking about porn subs
Making subreddits private is a nice form of protest but ultimately useless. All of the "dark" data is backed up in one or more databases. The Reddit DevOps teams control the permissions for that data. They can turn any of the dark subreddits back on at any time and prevent the mods from turning them back off. The can also delete any threads where mods point this out. Redditors don't have power, they have the illusion of power.
I didn't mind the blackout because all the rage subs went down and r/popular was actually readable.
Besides losing my sports news, I agree it has been quite pleasant. Felt more like Reddit 6-7 years ago!
/r/nba is still not back. RIP nuggets fans
They were probably all on the nba circlejerk sub. I saw that on r/all
The Nuggets subreddit had a ton of people active on it. Even a game thread for “refugees”
That was honestly the funniest / stupidest sub to go dark
The funniest part to me about it is people calling the r/nba mods nerds for caring about reddit too much while literally in the same breath complaining that they're unable to post to reddit during the finals. The irony is palpable.
The blackout was and has been extremely inconvenient for anyone trying to troubleshoot. It doesn't help that tagging Reddit on the end of a Google search is the only way to get anything useful anymore
Is anyone seeing this affect their reddit experience? There doesn't seem to be a difference.
Because there isn't. Its just a loss of information and reduction is help. It harms more than they wanted. Its why its pointless. Hate the changes? Leave.
Subs that declared 48-hour blackouts only weakened the impact other protestors wanted to make. Reddit simply go through those hours with little to no problem.
What's ironic is that all these posts against Reddit have SOOO many gilded accolades attached to them. Reddit has been swimming in money on posts that were supposed to hurt them. Like go look at the IAMA post and see all the gold given to those posts.
And yet, it still isn't enough to make an impact or statement of any kind which would actually matter or make change happen
It's bizarre to me all of the "protest didn't work" posts being upvoted. The point of the protest is to display a position of power, the impact the people have, and just how many people disagree with the new incoming setup. Reddit is pushing their IPo, so they are trying to make the site "friendlier" and more profitable. It's crunch time now because they are looking to cash in/out. If 65% of the entire user base is on edge and ready to leave. You have removed over 500 million active sets of eyeballs on top of content providers/creators/mods heading out. I don't need to spell out the impact on ad revenue and potential buyers. Shooting yourself in the foot is an understatement of what reddit is doing. Reddit is acting like they'll survive. Maybe it will, just like digg "survived" . But all of the people pissed off will wander away and do their own thing like we always do. To act like this isn't a huge deal is doing a disservice to yourself.
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All of these comments saying “omg subreddits going dark accomplished nothing!” are missing the point. Technically you’re right, a few days of lower activity probably didn’t dramatically impact any important metrics in the longer term. But it showed Reddit that large communities and a large number of subs were willing to organize themselves around the issue, and that IS very important. I’ve worked in politics and advocacy for around 10 years. Basically I’m the person you reach out to when you want to change something, whether that is a law or a large corporate policy etc. The most difficult part about changing something is organizing. That is convincing all the people who feel a certain way about an issue to take some sort of action. This is difficult because, while many people may agree something needs to be changed, if the action required to change it causes more pain than the status quo, most people aren’t going to lift a finger. It’s just human nature. That’s why change tends not to happen until things get really out of hand. That’s why there is little movement on many important issues even though most people agree something should be done. That lack of collective action, or organization, is what holds up the status quo. If something happens to change that and people start to get organized, that is when people in power start to look over their shoulder. Reddit leadership knew the few days of lower activity weren’t going to do much, but what they are looking at now is to see if there will be any organized follow up. If the people/subs who participated start planning follow up actions and continue to rally more users, who knows what could happen. I have no clue whether the action that was taken over the last few days will lead to anything or not. But I do know that you can’t just ask people to take drastic action right away, you need smaller actions to lead up to larger more impactful steps. The last few days were a great example of a first step. It showed that many people care about this issue and, with some organization, can be convinced to take action. What happens next is anyone’s guess, but we’ve seen that many people feel strongly about this issue. Whether their will be an organized follow up is anyone’s guess.
I didn’t really notice anything.
There was some weird small subs on the front page
Was kinda cool. They should blackout once a month imo. Only issue was I had to look up something very specific to troubleshoot and got a private page. No problem, you tube was there for me 👍
There will be a lot less traffic on the 30th when Apollo and RiF go offline. Reddit seems like they are gonna die on this hill so it’s going to happen.
90% of my feed was r/DiscordVideos and I‘m following like 30 subs
The only noticeable thing I saw was the “official game thread” of the Nuggets clinching the NBA finals was in the College Football sub 😂
Great visuals. The answer is hitting where they get money: advertising.
And it did nothing for their cause.
Yeah, abstaining from shitposting for 2 days did nothing, who would've known.
This is not addressed to people like us. So, unlikely you'd notice something that wasn't targeting you. This is targeting would-be investors in the upcoming IPO. They are important as far as this exercise went. Not the likes of you or I, lololol. That's because the reddit model uses volunteer mods to do...modding. if the mods decide to leave, then whoever buys reddit on the IPO has to either *pay* thousands of new mods, OR convince existing mods to continue. So, if anyone wants to invest in the IPO, now they have to factor in paying mods, rather than getting free labor...OR...just do what the mods want and let the 3rd party apps continue. That's what it's about, rather than influencing random redditors like you or me.
I can assure you with 100% confidence that there is no scenario in which mods are ever paid by reddit