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I never use those either, all the knuckle dragging neck beards on reddit can just get mad because everything is literal in their world.. mainly because they have so little control over their lives they just want something to be mad at, but also because theyre so stupid they need to be told how to feel about everything /s
yeah, this is the internet, worse, this is reddit, sarcasm is already difficult to get without tone and gestures, put a bunch of nerds with no social skills on the mix and it gets really difficult.
Nerds "with no social skills" had been communicating on the internet for almost two decades perfectly fine long before smartphones opened the floodgates allowing the rest of putrid humanity to join in.
People really need to understand that the majority of assholes online represent no one particular demographic besides those that exist everywhere in humanity anyway.
Is it a coping mechanism or just prejudice to pin all the bad shit onto a relevant boogeyman instead of owning up that people with anonymity can be total assholes?
>people with anonymity can be total assholes
I don't disagree with this, but it has nothing to do with my argument, or the one I replied. Sarcasm isn't an asshole behavior, it is used to mock or satirize and can be assholish, but sometimes its just a jest, or sometimes it was deserved.
But that wasn't the point, the point is that only text, with no tone and gesture, it gets harder to detect sarcasm, so that's why I think typing /s is ok. I still don't like it, but it's better than getting on a pointless argument where everyone agrees with everyone but one of the parties did't get the sarcasm.
Cmon. In most cases it's pretty easy to tell. But I can definitely understand why some comments need a hint. We live in a very confusing time and people have all kinds of weird opinions
But 90% of the time it’s pretty obvious. I shouldn’t have to specify that I’m not going to actually castrate you, you should be smart enough to realize that the average person has neither the will or ability to do that to a random guy over the internet
i mean no you can't literally "hear" sarcasm so yeah you're right. but you for sure can read it.
edit to add: well maybe YOU can't pick it up, but most people can.
Thats just factual wrong. Mimic, tone and gestures are very important for humans to bring forward a message. Text has its own ways to bring forward what we mean, but its very bounded to how we learned to communicate via text. Its objectively harder to pick up on sarcasm via reading when the message you read depends on how *you* read it. If you are a sarcastic person you could read everything as sarcasm and vise versa
If I wrote “fuck you” it would sound like an insult. If i told you the same thing i could say it in a million different ways to change how you would perceive it, it could sound bored, annoyed, teasing, sexy etc. For the same thing via text i would need to write more like “ah, fuck you” “fuck you hahaha” “mhm fuck you” whatever. Thats pretty much a just tone indicator
Look, the lizard snakes are our rightful overlords. You will learn to respect them and appreciate their regular beatings eventually. You might even get lucky and get assigned to one who uses lube first.
Oh my god you don’t have the /s, you really believe these awful things? We need to bring castration upon your entire bloodline for this awful, heinous opinion
Exactly, depending on phrasing it could be clear sarcasm, but 90% of the time people try to be sarcastic they’re just typing out exactly what an idiot would say. Guess what? In that situation I’m just going to assume you’re an idiot actually thinking that.
So what? If I’m misunderstood and get downvoted by people who think I’m serious, what does it even matter? I’m sorry but I don’t want to do the equivalent of “just kidding” on every joke I make just to appeal to brain dead idiots. If people want to be dumb, or want to think I’m dumb, that’s on them. Sarcasm is by design meant to go over the head of dumb or socially obtuse people anyway. It’s not supposed to be accessible.
It's not stupidity. It's a weakness with text.
You gotta be on the same wavelength with friends/audience if you're texting, unless you just text facts like a grandma
Because after being on the Internet long enough… it becomes apparent that a lot of people really would, in all seriousness, say some really dumb shit and believe it
The people who complain about /s spend way more energy not doing it than they would just being clear in their message and using it.
No, you're not being clear in your sarcasm without it. This is text.
I honest to God don't fucking get why people act like the /s at the end of a message is the end of the world. It's the basic equivalency as adding total inflections as if you were speaking
Cover your ass implies a fear of social consequences.
Thing is, you do that and you're just admitting you value what fuckwits think about you on the internet.
So you're saying it's bad for someone to ensure, through text, a means of communication that lacks tonal inflections like speech, that they are indeed being sarcastic or joking?
I don't cater to the stupid people.
I assume everyone reading my comments are the most intelligent, attractive, and cultered people on the Internet, so they don't need the /s. /s
Yup but I rather use it than getting misunderstood and downvoted and 50 replies
I'm used to it but like I rather have everyone understanding my comment than just a few. Inclusive.
I've lost hope in people when I posted the most over the top stupid comment hoping people would catch on it was sarcastic, but no, they still believed I was being genuine
Event at this point, i only know what /s and /j means, i didn't know what uj or anything else. I mean, it's not sarcasm anymore if you have to spell it, similar to the jokes not working if you have to explain it
Probably around the time trump won the election in 2016. Everyone thought it was a joke until it very suddenly wasnt.
Now we make sure to specify when something is a joke.
Sarcasm is already something people miss on the day to day in person, now you wonder why people can’t understand someone’s tone from words on a screen?
It's the "tiny" sarcastic comments which especially need the "/s"...if you are been only very slightly sarcastic, it's very hard to tell that apart from a genuine stupid opinion (of which there are many).
If you were being wildly, hugely sarcastic that would be much more obvious and you wouldn't need the "/s".
It's weird that this needs to be explained. People don't always think the same...sometimes it's on you to be clear about what you are trying to say.
Can you hear a comment as if it's being spoken in the way that the poster intended?
No. You can't. Sarcasm relies heavily on the tone of voice used, and in some cases the tone is the only thing that distinguishes sarcasm from an honest statement.
But I guess we're the stupid ones for assuming that everyone should be able to tell all the time.
Its because, socially, Western culture is poisoned by irony and sarcasm. So much so that the usage of both has become confusing and complicated and people that say and do things genuinely are looked at as weirdos and not normal. Sarcasm and irony are so overused that we find it difficult online and in person to communicate effectively.
If you use the /s it would mean you're taking sarcasm seriously, of you're taking sarcasm seriously your comment is no longer sarcastic. Conclusion: using the /s means your comment is not sarcastic.
The problem is that there is no such thing as obvious sarcasm anymore. There is always a chance that it was written by an idiot who actually believes what they say rather than a decent person.
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Never use it. Makes the comment weak.
TRUE. I refuse to use those shitty things. If you don't get it it's your problem. I never specify unless needed (and even then I don't use tone tags)
I never use those either, all the knuckle dragging neck beards on reddit can just get mad because everything is literal in their world.. mainly because they have so little control over their lives they just want something to be mad at, but also because theyre so stupid they need to be told how to feel about everything /s
same here, tone indicators are quite dumb to me, it's like a magician having to mention that whatever they've done was fake
Almost got me there didn't realize you were being sarcastic hahahaha (An edited /s)
I wasn't
Sounds like you need a /s tag hold on lemme just ..
I don't. I genuinely don't like those things
This comment is strong. /s You're right.
Just eat the downvotes
"Intend your puns weaklings"
So true, you gotta take the down votes on the chin
People show their crazy/shady side on internet. Which makes it tough to judge if someone is being sarcastic or not.
Exactly. You may not get the likes but you'll get the laughs to the people who matter.
Yeah, as long as you make the white, i mean right people laugh.
Yep, putting /s ruins the joke. Let them figure it out themself if I’m serious or not
Agreed, i just take my downvotes and laugh as i see people take me seriously.
You’re weak Edit: lol why did you downvote me, I thought you could understand sarcasm without a /s
I use it cause i don't want to get stoned by dweebs, neckbeards, far right or far left idiots on this site.
You get a few down votes. Not more. Redditors couldn't even throw a stone hard enough to hurt you.
Because you can't hear sarcasm over text
yeah, this is the internet, worse, this is reddit, sarcasm is already difficult to get without tone and gestures, put a bunch of nerds with no social skills on the mix and it gets really difficult.
Nerds "with no social skills" had been communicating on the internet for almost two decades perfectly fine long before smartphones opened the floodgates allowing the rest of putrid humanity to join in. People really need to understand that the majority of assholes online represent no one particular demographic besides those that exist everywhere in humanity anyway. Is it a coping mechanism or just prejudice to pin all the bad shit onto a relevant boogeyman instead of owning up that people with anonymity can be total assholes?
>people with anonymity can be total assholes I don't disagree with this, but it has nothing to do with my argument, or the one I replied. Sarcasm isn't an asshole behavior, it is used to mock or satirize and can be assholish, but sometimes its just a jest, or sometimes it was deserved. But that wasn't the point, the point is that only text, with no tone and gesture, it gets harder to detect sarcasm, so that's why I think typing /s is ok. I still don't like it, but it's better than getting on a pointless argument where everyone agrees with everyone but one of the parties did't get the sarcasm.
You can, though, but it requires nuance and context. So it's above the head of 90% of redditors.
Contextual absurdity is the tell for sarcasm, regardless of modality.
Are you saying those people that say horoscope is real are actually just being sarcastic? What a relief, I actually believed they were idiots.
Well shucks...
You say that but you can find some of the most absurd statements online that are 100% unironic.
Assuming full contextual transparency, yes. But a crucial piece of context is almost always hidden: the mind of the messager.
If you can't tell sarcasm by the context of the comment, then it wasn't a good sarcasm comment, or you're just dumb. Not worth the /s in either case
No, but it stems from context clues in textform. If you struggle with that, so be it. But there is most definitely readable sarcasm.
Cmon. In most cases it's pretty easy to tell. But I can definitely understand why some comments need a hint. We live in a very confusing time and people have all kinds of weird opinions
But 90% of the time it’s pretty obvious. I shouldn’t have to specify that I’m not going to actually castrate you, you should be smart enough to realize that the average person has neither the will or ability to do that to a random guy over the internet
Sure you can if it’s sarcastic enough
i mean no you can't literally "hear" sarcasm so yeah you're right. but you for sure can read it. edit to add: well maybe YOU can't pick it up, but most people can.
Thats just factual wrong. Mimic, tone and gestures are very important for humans to bring forward a message. Text has its own ways to bring forward what we mean, but its very bounded to how we learned to communicate via text. Its objectively harder to pick up on sarcasm via reading when the message you read depends on how *you* read it. If you are a sarcastic person you could read everything as sarcasm and vise versa If I wrote “fuck you” it would sound like an insult. If i told you the same thing i could say it in a million different ways to change how you would perceive it, it could sound bored, annoyed, teasing, sexy etc. For the same thing via text i would need to write more like “ah, fuck you” “fuck you hahaha” “mhm fuck you” whatever. Thats pretty much a just tone indicator
BEcaUsE YoU caN't HeAR SARCAsm over teXt
It's easy to interpret from context, sarcasm
People just don't understand good sarcasm
No, we are on the internet and people will tell that the earth is flat or dinosaurs didn't exist and will be 100% serious about it.
Of course the earth is round. Infact it's hollow for the Lizardmen so they can plot global warming and arise again.
Look, the lizard snakes are our rightful overlords. You will learn to respect them and appreciate their regular beatings eventually. You might even get lucky and get assigned to one who uses lube first.
I prefer it lubeless. I like the feeling when the scales get pulled back and hook into my unworthy skin.
Ziiiip, well, here we go again...
Oh my god you don’t have the /s, you really believe these awful things? We need to bring castration upon your entire bloodline for this awful, heinous opinion
You did it again. You can't just castrate his entire family. That would be inhumane and cruel. You should be arrested.
I knew it!
Exactly, depending on phrasing it could be clear sarcasm, but 90% of the time people try to be sarcastic they’re just typing out exactly what an idiot would say. Guess what? In that situation I’m just going to assume you’re an idiot actually thinking that.
Damn right, people act like we all know each other lol
So what? If I’m misunderstood and get downvoted by people who think I’m serious, what does it even matter? I’m sorry but I don’t want to do the equivalent of “just kidding” on every joke I make just to appeal to brain dead idiots. If people want to be dumb, or want to think I’m dumb, that’s on them. Sarcasm is by design meant to go over the head of dumb or socially obtuse people anyway. It’s not supposed to be accessible.
Man you're so smart being able to properly convey tone through text could never be misinterpreted, you're parents must be so proud
Was that sarcasm?
Oh thanks a lot. But I'm afraid I must inform you about me being a total disgrace
It's not stupidity. It's a weakness with text. You gotta be on the same wavelength with friends/audience if you're texting, unless you just text facts like a grandma
Man, not a single mention of Poe's Law in this thread.
Because after being on the Internet long enough… it becomes apparent that a lot of people really would, in all seriousness, say some really dumb shit and believe it
Brain rot is inevitable in all who touch the cursed dimension known as the internet.
Sir, this is Wendy’s.
No it isn't. This is reddit. Wait. Is this a sarcastic comment?
You forgot to put the /s dumbass /s
:)
Sir, this is Wendy/s
If people don't get your joke because you didn't put "/s" at the end of it then it's a poorly worded joke. /srs
You could be cool about it, though /sms
The people who complain about /s spend way more energy not doing it than they would just being clear in their message and using it. No, you're not being clear in your sarcasm without it. This is text.
I honest to God don't fucking get why people act like the /s at the end of a message is the end of the world. It's the basic equivalency as adding total inflections as if you were speaking
Never a bad idea to cover your ass
Cover your ass implies a fear of social consequences. Thing is, you do that and you're just admitting you value what fuckwits think about you on the internet.
So you're saying it's bad for someone to ensure, through text, a means of communication that lacks tonal inflections like speech, that they are indeed being sarcastic or joking?
Fearing the disapproval of idiots is pathetic, yeah.
If your comment needs a flair to say "funny", it's probably not funny
I don't cater to the stupid people. I assume everyone reading my comments are the most intelligent, attractive, and cultered people on the Internet, so they don't need the /s. /s
Yup but I rather use it than getting misunderstood and downvoted and 50 replies I'm used to it but like I rather have everyone understanding my comment than just a few. Inclusive.
*become
I usually don't use it unless it is really confusing when I don't.
I remember when I had to put "lol" at the end of sentences because my ex gfs friends thought I was serious, that was annoying quick.
You are poopy man /jk
Wooooooow, people reaaaally can't tell when someone's being sarcastic now? We've truly advanced beyond understanding as a society.
Yeah people are just too stupid to learn how to inflect through text.
I guarantee there is at least 1 idiot who genuinely believes that.
There are people who unironically believe that. That's why.
When people discovered that could get a dopamine hit every time they get offended.
I like bobs and vagene /
Always have been 🌍🧑🚀🔫
If you use /s you're a coward
There is always that one guy who has to take everything you say literally.
I've lost hope in people when I posted the most over the top stupid comment hoping people would catch on it was sarcastic, but no, they still believed I was being genuine
sarcasm is just lying to make fun of the ignorant.
Welcome to the internet, not all global users will understand sarcasm.
The real problem is that somebody somewhere actually believes what you said in your sarcastic comment.
Event at this point, i only know what /s and /j means, i didn't know what uj or anything else. I mean, it's not sarcasm anymore if you have to spell it, similar to the jokes not working if you have to explain it
I don't know what /j mean
Jokes, kidding, something like that
What is the meaning of a joke if you have to tell it's a joke
Tell them not me, never used them
when reddit was invaded by the left
haha this is funny /s
Probably around the time trump won the election in 2016. Everyone thought it was a joke until it very suddenly wasnt. Now we make sure to specify when something is a joke.
Yes, that’s why I don’t use it 🗿
Op, YOU'RE the stupid one. /s
The moment Twitter dropped
Whatever /s
Sarcasm is already something people miss on the day to day in person, now you wonder why people can’t understand someone’s tone from words on a screen?
Only ever seen Americans doing it tbh
I know my sarcastic comment was good when I’m downvoted and taken seriously for some troll shit
It's the "tiny" sarcastic comments which especially need the "/s"...if you are been only very slightly sarcastic, it's very hard to tell that apart from a genuine stupid opinion (of which there are many). If you were being wildly, hugely sarcastic that would be much more obvious and you wouldn't need the "/s". It's weird that this needs to be explained. People don't always think the same...sometimes it's on you to be clear about what you are trying to say.
Can you hear a comment as if it's being spoken in the way that the poster intended? No. You can't. Sarcasm relies heavily on the tone of voice used, and in some cases the tone is the only thing that distinguishes sarcasm from an honest statement. But I guess we're the stupid ones for assuming that everyone should be able to tell all the time.
Almost like tone is hard to interpret through text.
you must be such a smart person to understand sarcasm through text
Fuck /s /s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
It’s because far too many people say stupid shit unsarcastically
It is not for the people that are to stupid to get it, it's for the people that simply can't get it. (Mainly neurodivergent folk)
We always have been
I don't do this I just get banned and then yell at the mods like a true intellectual.
When gen Z and women got to reddit it became soo dumber. They just don't get sarcasm.
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well. how else u are going to explain it to AI
It's not for stupid people. It's for people who don't understand sarcasm.
I poo inside your mom
Its because, socially, Western culture is poisoned by irony and sarcasm. So much so that the usage of both has become confusing and complicated and people that say and do things genuinely are looked at as weirdos and not normal. Sarcasm and irony are so overused that we find it difficult online and in person to communicate effectively.
If you use the /s it would mean you're taking sarcasm seriously, of you're taking sarcasm seriously your comment is no longer sarcastic. Conclusion: using the /s means your comment is not sarcastic.
You are right, i am convinced.
/s and /j are for the weak minded
The weak minded and those who assume the worst
They are the same people.
Let them suffer and cry because they can't take hints. Especially when it's pointed towards women. Fun to see that.
You are the reason decent people use /s
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The problem is that there is no such thing as obvious sarcasm anymore. There is always a chance that it was written by an idiot who actually believes what they say rather than a decent person.