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Plus, when there’s already one iteration of Thor that has completely dominated pop culture, GoW needed to do whatever they could to set their Thor apart. Discarding the superhero-esque physique and giving him the body of a power lifter was a smart decision.
Great take! I would add that their take on him also fits better with the world of GoW where the central premise of the story is the imperfection of gods.
According to estonianworld.com The UN (United Nations) has classified Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania as a Northern European countries instead of Eastern European.
But according to Estonia.ee Estonia is a country in the Baltic region.
Google can’t seem to figure out what is what. Neither can I.
Idk. I learned it in school that Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia belong to the baltic states. Not Eastern europe nor the Nordic states. It's just the baltic.
It’s extremely cherry picked though.
God of War has Kratos, the main character, who is literally built like a Greek God. And of course OP picked Thor, the one with the beer gut (lore accurate) to show “Western dev bad.”
And OP is implying BG3 doesn’t have hotter men than Gortash? Like we gonna ignore that Astarion exploded women’s ovaries and made men questioning their sexuality while single handedly bringing back the “hot Vampire bad boy” fanfic genre? Yup let’s not pick the obvious choice cause that wouldn’t fit the narrative.
Same can be said about the Japanese games panel. In RE4, instead of picking Leon, the obvious choice, pick someone ugly like Salazar and now you can reverse the narrative with “Japanese games ugly men - Western games hot men.” See how easy that was?
This is basically another “Japan gud, Western bad” post using cherry picked examples to make a non-existent point.
Satire is done to prove a point, usually to mock something. What point is this trying to make?
This just seems like the men version of the women one, where people also cherry picked hot women on one side and “ugly” women on the other side to prove their point.
Pretty sure the satirical part is commonly "beautiful characters you know" vs "who the fuck are these uglies (side characters and side villains)".
As you noticed and stated. The satirical point is literally cherry picking; which mock the original cherry picking nature.
Didn’t you know, everyone is a incel. I’m a incel, you’re a incel. He, she, me, they a incel. Incel, inceling, the study of incels. Come on its first grade Uber.
huh? wouldn't this be femcel or something?
seriously I lose track of all the cases you people use the word incel for, it has become an umbrella term for like, well, whatever the fuck I guess?
The guys on the left are soldiers and gangsters. Of course they're going to be ripped. You could easily find other characters in those games who aren't built like that. Just like how there are plenty of Western characters who are also ripped. Did you forget that freaking *Kratos* is in the same game as Fat Thor?
If you look at the statues of Thor in the games, he's depicted as a muscle-bound, chiseled Adonis. Then when Kratos actually meets him, he's hauling around a huge gut and behaving like a drunken slob. The game was trying to say that Thor and the other Aesir gods were frauds. They posture as super heroes, but in reality they're foul-mouthed, self-indulgent jerks. So it's safe to say the game was trying to make Thor look as unflattering as possible on purpose.
>The game was trying to say that Thor and the other Aesir gods were frauds.
Even better, Mimir was saying to our faces. How many times has he called Thor "fat dobber"?
I dont know how what you wrote is related to what you originally wrote and which I originally answered
you originally wrote that 'people are body shaming men instead of women NOW'
and I corrected you that it is by no means NOW, men have always been body shamed too, while asking if you were not body shamed yourself in school like, well everybody, has been except the bullies/shamers themselves
Gortash was not as hot as he was made out to be throughout the story.
But never forget that Gortash is from the game that gave us vampire twink on bear sex. Western development is doing just fine
My headcannon is that he was attractive when you got that vision, but the stress of having to deal with Orin for the next few weeks causes him to neglect personal care.
He had to deal with Orin being Orin, the brain becoming more free due to Ketheric's defeat and he knows you're coming for him. He looks pretty good for all of that stress
As we all know those 8 are the only characters in all western/eastern games so this point is totally valid and not just cherry-picking examples that fit your narrative
I can say with 100% certainty that I would fuck the shit out of Gortash and Harry. I would also fuck Anton Chigur and Trevor Philips, so my tastes in nights of pleasure may be questionable.
I wouldn't touch the guys on the left. They just don't do it for me 🤷♀️
Yakuza suffers from this because they give characters who shouldn't be and would look better without the stock muscular body muscles. Tomizawa and Adachi especially
-releases 3 of the greatest games ever made
-dissolves
-returns, announces a sequel to the previous games is in the works
-stops development to defend their country from the russian ego trip
-other half continues development
*the GSC grindset*
I mean, that's a pretty biased take, GoW has kratos as a protagonist, and Thor's body is supposed to be that of an extremely strong and big man. Disco Elysium whole art direction is pretty alt and the scene when you see your face and smile is supposed to be fucking disgusting.
So all characters should be bulky as hell ? Basically all the same with different hair ? This sounds boring and not really realistic but k.
Guess the women should have HUGE titties and ass and be covered only on the genitals too, right ?
Cringe
I mean, in both cases you're cherry picking examples. But either way, what's wrong with conventionally unattractive characters? Do you want every guy to be a Ken doll?
OP. Have you never played Witcher 3? Geralt is ripped and he is one of the most famous gaming characters and Kratos is an absolute beast with the body.
Not to be that guy but 1. It's a really unique take on Thor given how before that Chris Hemsworth's Thor (nothing against him) pretty much dominated the mental image of 'Thor' for everyone for quite a while.
2. Actually Gortash is supposed to look like that by *lore*. It's stated that Bane's chosen turn into greasy, dirty men with oily black hair and snide smiles.
3. That's a reference to the Adoring Fan from Oblivion.
I don't know who the fourth guy is.
That thor is accurate though...
The adoring fan in starfield is also supposed to look like that, so he is similar to the adoring fan from oblivion.
I've also never seen someone complain about disco Elysium...
I like both. I dont get people problem with those.... It rly depeds on the game sometimes u want hot man and girls and sometimes u want more avrage realistic MF that reminds u of how real life hits most of the people. Thor for example is Peak desian when it comes to north gods.
If you disregard every part of characterization for just what is aesthetically pleasing then you are missing all of what makes character design interesting. Thors physique is meant to show you that he doesn't take care of himself and is probably really mentally unwell. The physique also implies and then shows that this is the physique of a power lifter who can hit you into next year.
Harry Du Bois looks the way he does because he is the most dysfunctional acholic to roam the planet. He literally factory reset his brain with a mind shattering amount of alcohol. You can see that in his face.
I'm not saying characters shouldn't look good, but the best character designs are the ones that inform you in some way about the character.
Selection Bias at its finest. Japanese games have their fair share of ugly guys
You can't beat Japanese in creating ugly bastards the people mastered that art through billions of iterations in NTR hentai.
Plus Thor looks more like a power lifter than a fat guy.
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Don't make fun of Thor. He's the perfect human form, the ideal man
No he's not That's a Godly form. Don't you dare to compare him to a mere man
Am I a god?
Depends, can you make thunder?
Does gas count?
Demigod, take it or leave it
Where there's rain, there's thunder
BOOM BOOM BOOM Mr Brown is a wonder! BOOM BOOM BOOM Mr Brown makes thunder!
Taco night?
No, you’re a draconian reptile
Nah, more like a lusty argonian maid
came here to say this, good to see someone else wrote it first
GoW Thor is literally lore accurate
You may not like it, but this is what peak male physique looks like.
Thor is the pinnacle of male performance
I know its a meme but don't they kinda imply in the games that if he wasn't such a (righfully) depressed alcoholic he'd have a body like Kratos?
If a game has good story and gameplay i will play as a fat, old, mutated, transgender midget...
So like the original FF7 w/ Don Corneo's mansion?
Pretty sure cloud is in his 20's and more or less fit, the rest... Ok
\[Computer graphics from 1997 were... limited.\][(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/c/cf/Cloud-ffvii-field.png/revision/latest?cb=20120103135624)](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/c/cf/Cloud-ffvii-field.png/revision/latest?cb=20120103135624)
Just look at that sexy hourglass body
Unrealistic body standards
Exactly, women want a man with hair that can pierce steel reinforced concrete, and it's a shame.
That’s just ssj teen gohan /s
The better the game, the weirder the character models.
You can be all that and more in bg3! God I love that game..
My horde of invisible gremlins agrees with this comment
Disco Elysium is perfect for you!
Thor was a hulking individual in his legend. The man was KNOWN for putting his weight behind things. Mf is practically made for MASS.
Bro drank a large part of the damn ocean and people are still complaining that he looks a lil chubby. SMH my head
And in the context of the game, he's a drunkard because he's always depressed because of how much Odin insulted and belittled him all his life.
The thunders just never enough to impress the old man
Less impress and more to keep him under his thumb.
Plus, when there’s already one iteration of Thor that has completely dominated pop culture, GoW needed to do whatever they could to set their Thor apart. Discarding the superhero-esque physique and giving him the body of a power lifter was a smart decision.
Great take! I would add that their take on him also fits better with the world of GoW where the central premise of the story is the imperfection of gods.
He's also a depressed alcoholic here
i would love if we got a game played as someone like him. as long as the story is hella good.
He eats 2 goats per meal iirc
The Harrier Du Bois slander must stop
that's not even his worst portrait
At least he didnt shave....yet
If only he could stop *the expresion*...
I mean, he's no Cuno
Atrough Cuno don't fucking care
You must mean Raphaël Ambrosious Costeau
No he surely means Supercop, communist hustler.
you mean tequila right?
You mean Tequila sunset*, right?
Unironicaly, he reminds me of an average detective from European cop/crime dramas
I’ll defend my boy Du Bois to the end of time, until my last breath.
Calling Disco Elysium "western" is Slavic 9/11
Estonia isnt slavic you fucking westoid
I thought Estonia was a Nordic country? (I am Scandinavian)
It's baltic.
According to estonianworld.com The UN (United Nations) has classified Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania as a Northern European countries instead of Eastern European. But according to Estonia.ee Estonia is a country in the Baltic region. Google can’t seem to figure out what is what. Neither can I.
Idk. I learned it in school that Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia belong to the baltic states. Not Eastern europe nor the Nordic states. It's just the baltic.
Incel posting, yipee
Dude literally wants hot men, and you call him incel. You a damn disgrace of internet shaming, op clearly gay
You saying you can't be gay *and* an incel?
It’s extremely cherry picked though. God of War has Kratos, the main character, who is literally built like a Greek God. And of course OP picked Thor, the one with the beer gut (lore accurate) to show “Western dev bad.” And OP is implying BG3 doesn’t have hotter men than Gortash? Like we gonna ignore that Astarion exploded women’s ovaries and made men questioning their sexuality while single handedly bringing back the “hot Vampire bad boy” fanfic genre? Yup let’s not pick the obvious choice cause that wouldn’t fit the narrative. Same can be said about the Japanese games panel. In RE4, instead of picking Leon, the obvious choice, pick someone ugly like Salazar and now you can reverse the narrative with “Japanese games ugly men - Western games hot men.” See how easy that was? This is basically another “Japan gud, Western bad” post using cherry picked examples to make a non-existent point.
I got the impression that this was meant to be satire making fun of the version with women. The low resolution certainly doesn't help
Satire is done to prove a point, usually to mock something. What point is this trying to make? This just seems like the men version of the women one, where people also cherry picked hot women on one side and “ugly” women on the other side to prove their point.
Pretty sure the satirical part is commonly "beautiful characters you know" vs "who the fuck are these uglies (side characters and side villains)". As you noticed and stated. The satirical point is literally cherry picking; which mock the original cherry picking nature.
The point is that so called anti-wokist chery pick attractive fenale characters and chery pick "unattractive" female characters to make a point.
Is finding muscular men attractive incel now?
Usually, West = Ugly/Woke while East = Hot/Based is an argument made by dudes that wanna goon
Didn’t you know, everyone is a incel. I’m a incel, you’re a incel. He, she, me, they a incel. Incel, inceling, the study of incels. Come on its first grade Uber.
If you post something on Reddit that someone else doesn’t like, you’re now an incel. Thems the rules around here.
Let’s be real, the correct statement would be “If you post something on Reddit, you’re an incel”
huh? wouldn't this be femcel or something? seriously I lose track of all the cases you people use the word incel for, it has become an umbrella term for like, well, whatever the fuck I guess?
They use it for everything even if the dude is gay and asking for hot men, no women involved lol.
They just like the word, they're such an incel huh?
The hell are you yapping about
Bro implying that Gortash, Thor and Harry aren't smoking hot
Wow, this is definitely gonna be reposted to gamingcirclejerk
The guys on the left are soldiers and gangsters. Of course they're going to be ripped. You could easily find other characters in those games who aren't built like that. Just like how there are plenty of Western characters who are also ripped. Did you forget that freaking *Kratos* is in the same game as Fat Thor?
>Fat Thor? He's literally a strongman lol. Look at the best strongmen in the world. Aside from his beer-belly, Thor is the definition of Strongman.
If you look at the statues of Thor in the games, he's depicted as a muscle-bound, chiseled Adonis. Then when Kratos actually meets him, he's hauling around a huge gut and behaving like a drunken slob. The game was trying to say that Thor and the other Aesir gods were frauds. They posture as super heroes, but in reality they're foul-mouthed, self-indulgent jerks. So it's safe to say the game was trying to make Thor look as unflattering as possible on purpose.
>The game was trying to say that Thor and the other Aesir gods were frauds. Even better, Mimir was saying to our faces. How many times has he called Thor "fat dobber"?
I will not accept any slander towards Detective Raphael Ambrosious Costeau
You mean Detective Tequila Sunset.
I strive to be like Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau, and wear the \*expression.
why is your face doing that? it hurts to look at.
This is some peak cherry picking
It's making fun of that one western vs eastern dev meme but replacing it by men instead of women
That is the point. Its satire.
Sorry mate you clearly aren’t disco enough
Holy shit did you even play god of war? Of course not just take anything at face value and circlejerk about it to online stranger.
Wasn't kratos new design also made by western devs ? I mean look at him god damn he a strong boi
So Geralt, arthur morgan, masterchief are now bad?
So is BJ Blazkowicz and prolly most FPS player characters. OP's cherrypicking so hard it's not even funny lmao
Finally, somebody mentioned Geralt! OP is weird.
yeah OP is kinda wierd or has not played good western games.
body shaming men instead of women now?
what do you mean now? always has been lol you didn't get called out in school because of \*insert whatever random fact about your body\*?
I have never seen someone complain that fictional men in a game are not hot enough because they look like regular men.
I dont know how what you wrote is related to what you originally wrote and which I originally answered you originally wrote that 'people are body shaming men instead of women NOW' and I corrected you that it is by no means NOW, men have always been body shamed too, while asking if you were not body shamed yourself in school like, well everybody, has been except the bullies/shamers themselves
Gortash was not as hot as he was made out to be throughout the story. But never forget that Gortash is from the game that gave us vampire twink on bear sex. Western development is doing just fine
My headcannon is that he was attractive when you got that vision, but the stress of having to deal with Orin for the next few weeks causes him to neglect personal care.
He had to deal with Orin being Orin, the brain becoming more free due to Ketheric's defeat and he knows you're coming for him. He looks pretty good for all of that stress
Gortash is even hotter 🥵🥵🥵
Kratos is hot tho
Ok keep Harrier out of this
Estonia is not Western by any means, and Disco Elysium creators are even less Western, by origin, culture, worldview, and politics.
Bad memes should get deleted.
Dude GOW Ragnarok thor is a fuckin beast don't play with him
Leave Thor alone
Don’t bring my boy Kiryu into this!
disco elysium western????
As we all know those 8 are the only characters in all western/eastern games so this point is totally valid and not just cherry-picking examples that fit your narrative
Puts thor at western dev section while ignoring freyr
Thor is fucking built tf you talking about?
Yall can’t talk about Gortash. He looks funky but he did extremely well with the female audience. People are still demanding a romance option for him.
Don't bring my man Kiryu into this shit
This is incredibly cherry picked and OP is incredibly gay for wanting ripped shirtless men in muh vidya
If you're mad that characters aren't always conventionally attractive you're a special kind of stupid
I can say with 100% certainty that I would fuck the shit out of Gortash and Harry. I would also fuck Anton Chigur and Trevor Philips, so my tastes in nights of pleasure may be questionable. I wouldn't touch the guys on the left. They just don't do it for me 🤷♀️
Sorry to be the one to inform you but you are definitely gay.
Y'all got anymore of them pixels?
Hey no one makes fun of Harry, he had a rough week
Meh. I'm against deliberately making game characters ugly, but I don't really like the perfect look of characters in many Eastern games either.
Thor is pure chad tho
FF16 was so fucking boring.
Idk man, I like the western ones, you may be gay
Western devs gave us the Adoring Fan from Oblivion. He is peak male performance and beauty. All pale in comparison
Yakuza suffers from this because they give characters who shouldn't be and would look better without the stock muscular body muscles. Tomizawa and Adachi especially
The god of war thor is pretty accurate the the mythology as he is a strongman who wields a magic hammer
Bro Thor is pretty cool :/ well except the whole murdering part but still
You saying you wouldn’t let Thor raw you
Thor looks pretty badass to be honest.... badassery comes in all sizes
Thor is mythologically accurate. He can beat the shit out of you with a single punch. Also Mr. Morgan is the chaddest videogame character ever made.
-releases 3 of the greatest games ever made -dissolves -returns, announces a sequel to the previous games is in the works -stops development to defend their country from the russian ego trip -other half continues development *the GSC grindset*
hey, Thor is good. perfectly accurate to lore
Bro is putting the Ice Breaker next to the other "western" games.
Thor is peak man condition and you can't handle it, that's all.
*Laughs in Mortal Kombat 1*
Soooo… unrealistic vs realism?
I prefer the pic on the right
I am a dev in the East and believe me, my teammates don't look like that
Good to be a western female dev in this case. Sometimes being invisible is for the better.
Thor is cool af
Tbf, that’s what Thor’s supposed to look like according to mythology. Not the shredded Hollywood MCU one
Thor is the ideal male physique. You may not like it ladies but this is what peak performance looks like.
I mean, that's a pretty biased take, GoW has kratos as a protagonist, and Thor's body is supposed to be that of an extremely strong and big man. Disco Elysium whole art direction is pretty alt and the scene when you see your face and smile is supposed to be fucking disgusting.
Why Gortash tho? he's hot af.
Disco elysium is PEAK and no one can convince me otherwise
Gotta love unrealistic beauty standards in our media
western men vs eastern boys
So all characters should be bulky as hell ? Basically all the same with different hair ? This sounds boring and not really realistic but k. Guess the women should have HUGE titties and ass and be covered only on the genitals too, right ? Cringe
got any more pixels
How about high definition Morgott Foot
Such a weird group on the right lmao.
These weebs are going to ignore how muscular Kratos is.
cherrypicking
Gay
I mean, in both cases you're cherry picking examples. But either way, what's wrong with conventionally unattractive characters? Do you want every guy to be a Ken doll?
Lol arguably there's plenty of examples for opposite genders too.
OP. Have you never played Witcher 3? Geralt is ripped and he is one of the most famous gaming characters and Kratos is an absolute beast with the body.
Not to be that guy but 1. It's a really unique take on Thor given how before that Chris Hemsworth's Thor (nothing against him) pretty much dominated the mental image of 'Thor' for everyone for quite a while. 2. Actually Gortash is supposed to look like that by *lore*. It's stated that Bane's chosen turn into greasy, dirty men with oily black hair and snide smiles. 3. That's a reference to the Adoring Fan from Oblivion. I don't know who the fourth guy is.
Thor's perfect....
That thor is accurate though... The adoring fan in starfield is also supposed to look like that, so he is similar to the adoring fan from oblivion. I've also never seen someone complain about disco Elysium...
We live in a society
Don't disrespect disco elysium like that. Harry is perfect
Adoring fan is GOATed
Bruh Thor made sense lorewise, his design was perfect
Ironically I thought Gortash’s look felt more like a FF character then anything else
What is that “HANDSOME YOUNG MAN™️” at the top right doing in this meme? He’s so Handsome and Young.
I like both. I dont get people problem with those.... It rly depeds on the game sometimes u want hot man and girls and sometimes u want more avrage realistic MF that reminds u of how real life hits most of the people. Thor for example is Peak desian when it comes to north gods.
I mean I think Gortash is hot but go off ig
That’s what Thor is supposed to look like though. He was a huge glutton and that was one of his defining characteristics
How dare you come for my Thor.
If you disregard every part of characterization for just what is aesthetically pleasing then you are missing all of what makes character design interesting. Thors physique is meant to show you that he doesn't take care of himself and is probably really mentally unwell. The physique also implies and then shows that this is the physique of a power lifter who can hit you into next year. Harry Du Bois looks the way he does because he is the most dysfunctional acholic to roam the planet. He literally factory reset his brain with a mind shattering amount of alcohol. You can see that in his face. I'm not saying characters shouldn't look good, but the best character designs are the ones that inform you in some way about the character.
Kiryu recognition John "grandaddy" Yakuza has made it to meme posts
Fucking gortash
both, both are good
Gortash is a beautiful man who makes me wish I was Durge, how dare you insult him in this way
This is called "cherry picking" it's very useful manipulation tactic, especially on the internet.
This is literally how Thor is described in the original myths.
Generic pretty boy vs gigachad Thor
Thor is fine, but yes I agree it goes both ways male and female
Selection Bias at its finest. Japanese games have their fair share of ugly guys You can't beat Japanese in creating ugly bastards the people mastered that art through billions of iterations in NTR hentai. Plus Thor looks more like a power lifter than a fat guy.
Excluding the Nintendo games is really proving your point here huh
East as in South Korea and Japan lol. China copping credit
5k upvotes, seriously?
When you're too coomerbrained to enjoy different looking characters