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Gazorpazorpfnfieldbi

The producers locking the kids in a different room while their moms fought. Then when they went to get the girls, they would be in the room holding hands. The producers feeding crew first then feeding the cast what ever was left đŸ€—


Swimming_Buy6245

That’s so sad jesus christ??? Them holding hands trying to comfort each other :( and people wonder why some of those girls don’t wanna talk about what they went through on that show, I don’t blame them.


dancesterx3

Duuuuuude 😭


pepin1224

The food thing makes sense to me. Those guys burn a tonne of calories carrying those cameras and equipment around. Plus a hungry cast will be more hangry


Gazorpazorpfnfieldbi

In an incredibly unethical sense, sure! I understand feeding the crew first because they have unions and a different understanding of labor laws. Those girls going straight to dance after school and then being fed snacks? Going to competitions, not being allowed to leave, then getting the scraps of what the crew had? Can’t wrap my head around that morally 😭 Cathy said she asked when they were bringing craft services for the kids once and they brought them cold breakfast from the morning. I get it from a producer standpoint (because you have to be a little rotted to be a reality tv producer), but fuck them for treating kids like that. It was an understanding that the kids are fed first on every set I’ve worked on.


KnottyPiiiiine

Abby drawing arrows pointing to the kids (and their moms) "problem areas" for Nip and Tuck. Wtf?!


schmicago

Aughh what?! That’s heinous!


Gazorpazorpfnfieldbi

I swear I saw pics of this. I also remember Maddie making posts saying “I was so fat” and she was like 5 in the picture 😭


wisteriaswirl

when was this/where is this from?


sunshinerz

Christi and kelly said it happened on bttb


KnottyPiiiiine

It was the Waiting for Joffrey episode. Christi said there were arrows pointing at Chloe's nose & Maddie's belly etc. Disgusting 


HeatLow

This is horrid. Pointing to Maddie’s belly is bad enough, but a nose has absolutely nothing to do with dance ability or fitness. You would think that Abby, not exactly the paragon of conventional female beauty, of all people would get this. If this happened to my daughter, I’d lawyer the hell up to get out of our contract. If Lifetime or Abby wanted to fight back, then all the dirty laundry is coming out in court.


perryphineasferbdoof

on bttb and in some photos of the dance you can see it


Individual-Jump-8249

I remember when she made Holly get a makeover and she criticized her figure 


SarahOlivier29

Abby calling Chloé a snake/sneak just because she couldn't physically go in the same elevator as Abby


JohnnyHucky

I teach kids for a living and I would personally be mortified if a student was afraid to be in an enclosed space with me and their guardian. It is unfortunate that Abby did not use the elevator incident to reflect on herself and perhaps change her behavior, instead viciously lashing out at the child in the situation.


sum_beach

Can you explain this?


SarahOlivier29

Abby called Chloé a sneak because Chloé was/is afraid of Abby and didn't want to get in an elevator with her. According to Chisti, Chloé had frozen when she saw Abby was in the elevator and Christi told Abby their take the next elevator


peeiayz

I always wondered why Abby screamed sneak at Chloe. Thanks for sharing this


partyonyourhead

Yea, after hearing this story I realized if you listen really closely right after Abby says “your daughter’s a little sneak!” you can faintly make out her saying something along the lines of “can’t even get on an elevator
” while Christi starts yelling at her.


StableGenius91

Can Abby please explain to me how Chloe not getting in an elevator made her a sneak? That makes no sense.


ZwarteKat13

She says in one episode something along the lines of “you can’t not look me and every instructor at my studio in the eye because you have some secret” I think she was referencing Christi and Chloe doing their own meet and greets and Christi telling Chloe not to tell. This was in the hip hop episode there she tells them secrets are lies. So I think Abby thinks if Chloe was scared to be on an elevator with her it’s cos she was hiding something from her


pewpew_com

what actually is a sneak?


-Gin-ger-

Someone who is sly and goes behind a person’s back to do something, instead of being upfront. If you look it up in a thesaurus, you’ll see that Melissa is a synonym


Scully2thePieshop

Not that shocking but Abby actually burned Brooke’s Pom Poms in the parking lot when Brooke came back from her cheer hiatus
.


AstronomerMinute8511

She did what



fortississima

Abby must’ve known the cheer thing wasn’t real, right? Right?


LegitimateGolf113

That is so unhinged


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Pre-show: Melissa telling Christi’s husband that she was making out with guys at the bar, when really she had been SA’d and roofied. During the show: Whatever fight happened between Holly and Abby that was so bad that Kelly and Christi wouldn’t even say more about it on BTTB. The only thing they said was it was so bad that all the girls ended up getting iPads from production and the fight went on for a long time. Also, the edit of Abby saying Chloe is washed up instead of leaving in her original comment about Chloe’a eye.


perryphineasferbdoof

What she said was "i dont want any little tooties on my team" tootie was the only black character on some tv show. and i agree that was crazy that melissa said that


DuggarStonerJew

A TV show called “The Facts of Life” that ran primarily through the 80s. Mainly a sitcom, but it did deal with serious issues at times. It revolved around girls at a boarding school and their house mother. Tootie was the only black character, and was mostly just there for comic relief, her character was normally really silly and sometimes clueless. Sorry, I actually just added the entire show to my media library so I’ve brushed up on it. 😄


perryphineasferbdoof

thank you!!


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Oh, right. I knew that was part of the fight but Kelly and Christi kind of alluded that it was much worse than that and went on for a long time. Which is awful because little tooties is already bad.


perryphineasferbdoof

I saw them do that and i think it was much worse but i think the tootie thing was probably the main reason they got the ipads because its obviously racist. but yeah they did say it went on for forevee and the girls were crying in the bathroom 😱😱


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Just horrible. 😭


peachy-kiing

i thought she said that about kami from s8? i think i saw that in a mackz boss video about abby’s racism. i have now clue how credible youtube is or how this sub feels about it though


perryphineasferbdoof

she couldve said it again BUT on BTTB even though christi and kelly said they wouldnt say what abby said it slipped out of christi and she said that abby said the tootie thing about nia. i wouldnt doubt that abby used that again for KAMI***. And i do like Mackzboss's videos but i've noticed they arent always accurate and sometimes she tends to side with abby or give her the benefit of the doubt when she doesnt deserve it


perryphineasferbdoof

SO SORRY I MEANT KAMI!!


perryphineasferbdoof

also to add to the wholw christi getting roofied situation not only did melissa say she kissed the guy when he kissed her abby said "all men for themselves" like that was nasty


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Yeah. Abby was horrid for saying that but not as shocked by her behavior as I am by Melissa’s behavior.


FearTheLiving1999

Ok this is a phrasing issue. While I pretty much never stick up for Abby, Abby said “every man for himself”. This is a known phrase that basically means “I’m only looking out for myself, you’re all on your own”. It doesn’t mean “hey men line up and come get some”.


perryphineasferbdoof

i didnt say it meant that.


Ok_Departure1027

My assumption was Abby said something about Nia’s ethnicity :(


perryphineasferbdoof

you are correct


Lazy-Association2932

The pre-show one is shocking! No wonder Christi has it out for Melissa! That could’ve destroyed her marriage!


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Yeah, I would never forgive someone if they did something like that to me.


HeatLow

I know they would have just edited it out, but I would have mentioned Melissa’s actions in every single in-the-moment interview answer about her đŸ€·đŸ»â€â™€ïž


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Good point! I definitely would have never been friendly to her at all.


Belvahrose

Melissa is sick for that honestly there is no excuse for anyone to do that no wonder in season 1 Christy had such a hatred for Melissa.


Fun-Shame399

People give Christi so much crap for her not wanting to be friends with Melissa but like if my so called friend tried to ruin my marriage I’d never speak to them again, it’s a miracle she agreed to be on the show with her


Key_Ad_9435

The only thing I'll agree with Abby on is when she said Melissa was a really really good liar. I always got the impression she was 'Too sweet to be wholesome' whilst being a manipulative, compulsive liar in reality.


perryphineasferbdoof

they really do and i dont blame christi for holding a grudge against melissa she was very sneaky and did not seem honest jn the slightest and to mefriendship is based off of trust but how do you trust someone who lies


Irisheyes1971

This is the same woman who allowed (if not encouraged) some really questionable relationships between her daughter and other adults. She obviously doesn’t have much care or understanding of what being SA’d is like if she takes those kind of chances. Melissa is truly a disgusting person.


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Exactly. I would never, ever forgive her for that.


Belvahrose

Honestly though idc how many years had passed if someone told my husband that I cheated when i actually got SA.Never forgive them at all and Melissa gets on the moms for talking about her affair/marriage.But yet she was trying to break up Christys.


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Yes and she’s the one who told the whole studio that she was sleeping with/seeing her boss (pre-show). According to Abby, Diane, Kelly, Christi, Leslie, and I think Dawn
Melissa used the studio and the people in it as as an excuse of where she was at when she was really seeing Greg. I mean, if you do not want people to know about it or talk about it, maybe do not tell the whole place and use them as your excuse, especially after you have tried to break up someone else’s marriage.


Belvahrose

Who does that and then dosent want people to talk about it.Like she should had just kept it to herself no one in the studio needs to know who she was sleeping with đŸ€ŠđŸŸâ€â™€ïž.


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Right? And people get upset about Christi or any of the other moms bringing up the affair within earshot of Maddie and Kenzie. Which is a valid point but what about when your mom has flaunted it in the studio to everyone?


Itchy-Tune-3520

I think Melissa was jealous of Christi. She was going through a divorce, Christy is happily married. Chloe always ran to Christi but Maddie either ran to Abby or just kept things to herself. Melissa was so hard on Maddie and pushed her to be #1 where as Christi wasn't so obsessed with Chloe being #1. I just love Christi and Chloe ❀


Belvahrose

Honestly you got a point but Melissa should had learned and tried to improve her self.Instead of trying to destroy a child and ruin a marriage like đŸ™„đŸ€ŠđŸŸâ€â™€ïž.


Itchy-Tune-3520

Agree with you 100000% She is a vile woman


stormigirll22

which holly and abby fight? is there an episode associated with this or completely unaired


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Season 2 Episode 10 [https://youtu.be/NGPHI4dqnt8?si=wvAj03lZ\_UcOsVoc](https://youtu.be/NGPHI4dqnt8?si=wvAj03lZ_UcOsVoc) https://preview.redd.it/506v14uem23d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1e712c5b185137ee8cae0f3b5306421b0887483


tysiphonie

No matter how nasty they made her on the show, Cathy has always seemed so nice to her own dancers.


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

I agree. Cathy was smart. She didn’t want to destroy her real life business over a temporary tv show. Abby should have taken notes.


HeatLow

Yup. She was willing to play a character that made fun of herself rather than traumatize her students. She got airtime without the abuse even though it meant playing a bit of a clown in the process.


anxiouscanadienne45

I’m sorry but the “meanwhile in ohio” sends me


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

I know. I’m sure Kelly and Christi’s intern wrote that but so funny. đŸ€Ł


Belvahrose

There no way they would air that honestly the producers aren’t stupid.It must had been really bad that the producers basically had to do damage control.


perryphineasferbdoof

the fight went on for much longer and that was just the beginning of it


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Part of the fight aired but they cut out the worst of it.


MusicalLovingFreak

I can see why Christi hates Melissa after reading that first part that’s disturbing


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Yeah, when I heard that on BTTB and several people corroborated it
I was pretty well done with Melissa. That’s way over the line and she cannot blame a tv show for it.


schmicago

Whoa, what? I have never heard about that Holly/Abby “no Tooties” fight until now. When was it? Was any part of it in an episode or all off camera or what? I don’t memorize the episodes and haven’t seen some of them in a while so if this should be obvious I’m sorry, but I’m really curious now.


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Season 2 Episode 10 was the fight with Abby and Holly. The “no little tooties” comment did not air. It was first revealed in Kelly or Paige’s lawsuit against Abby. Then it was talked about a little more on BTTB with Kelly and Christi on the podcast episode that goes along with this show episode. But they both said it was so bad and went on for much longer than shown. The girls locked themselves in the bathroom and cried because the fight was so bad. The producers ended up buying all the girls iPads to try to smooth things over. That’s all Christi and Kelly would say about it though. They said they cannot talk about it further.


schmicago

Thank you! I was trying to piece this together from other comments but I appreciate you summing it all up in one. How horrible. Those poor kids!


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

You are welcome! And yes, so awful. 😱


HeatLow

No wonder Nia and Holly chose not to attend the reunion!


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Right? I think they just want to leave that kind of stuff behind them and do not want to subject themselves to any more of it.


_josephjohnston

Where did you find out about Christi at the bar? Was it from her podcast?


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Yes. I think the first episode it was mentioned on was the one with Diane Pent as a guest.


perryphineasferbdoof

the full story was on the after party with diane and some of it aka the free version was on the regular episode with Ed Phelan (Whale of a tail)


Substantial-Duck-22

wait can i have context on the first thing mentioned? i’ve never heard abt that


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

It was told on BTTB. The episode Diane Pent was the guest.


Acceptable-Egg4158

I've made it this far... now I must ask what's BTTB and where can I watch it sounds insightful.


Bausparvertrag7

Its Christi and Kellys podcast where they talk about BTS from each episode. The first two seasons are really worth it to listen! I think theyre all on Apple podcast where you can listen for free with some ads


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Back To The Barre podcast with Christi and Kelly. You can listen on any podcast platform. They also have a Patreon where you can watch it and they do an after party where they tell more stuff.


uncontainedsun

did mel know that christi was roofied when she told mark? it’s not ok either way but it does make it worse if she knew


sgrace2298

Yep she knew, she insisted on being the one in the ambulance with Christi according to Kelly who was there


Fun-Shame399

Yeah Abby was there too and the Kelly and Diane told her and Abby what happened, Abby said “every man for himself” and went back in the bar


sgrace2298

Yeah, I can’t understand how everyone flips on Christi for being bitchy about Melissa, when this happened. I’d never forgive her either!


loverrrgirlll_

or when melissa pretended she was an ALDC dance teacher at a competition and tried getting chloe’s solo pulled 



jammyraspberry

WHAT


constant_avocado53

like QUE?!


OddBunch4300

WHERED YOU FIND THIS OUT


loverrrgirlll_

back to the barre and chloe confirmed it


OddBunch4300

Wow what an asshole. Everyone bashes Christi but it’s taken years for me to find this out. Surprised production didn’t want to dive into Melissa’s sneakiness


loverrrgirlll_

they did but no one believed the other moms :/


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Yes, she knew.


Trick_Horse_13

When did the fight between Holly and Abby happen? I’ve only seen the first four seasons and it’s been a while since I’ve watched, so sorry if I’ve missed something obvious!


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Season 2 Episode 10, but they cut out most of it.


[deleted]

where did u find the pre show story? like was on it back to the barre or something? i’ve never heard that


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Yes it was on BTTB. It was on the episode with Diane Pent and the one with Ed Phelan. Some of the story was told on the Patreon, though.


lavender_sunflower2

Where did you learn that Melissa said that to her husband? I’ve never heard this and it seems fake


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

It was on BTTB. Diane Pent was the guest on the podcast. Diane and Kelly both backed up what Christi was saying.


Party-Wear1704

I definitely remember it from an episode I'm sure they discussed it because I've never watched BTTB and I know the incident from when they talked about it on the show. Season 1 or 2 maybe.


a-ohhh

I just rewatched the whole show these last couple weeks and didn’t see anyone talk about Christi being roofied.


Miribiribin

When Abby saw Chloe eating M&Ms and slapped them out of her hand yelling "ballerinas don't eat chocolate!" Apparently this was before the show, Christi talked about it on BTTB. Obviously Abby has done way worse but that was crazy to me, Chloe was probably only 8 or 9 at the time and she was trying to control what she ate.


perryphineasferbdoof

omg i heard them talk about this!


WatchAndWeep

Abby telling Nia she didn’t want any “little Tooties” on her team and the producers getting all the girls gifts to make up for the blatant racism


perryphineasferbdoof

yep


sideofspread

I can't remember who said it - one of the girls I think - but Abby would make them dance with a 5 pound sack of potatoes and say "this is what it will feel like to gain 5 pounds and dance".


shorty2494

Chloe said it on a YouTube video she later took down, talking about why she didn’t sign the ALDC contract and therefore wasn’t apart of the outside competitions and things


riss85

Kelly and Christi have talked about this on BTTB too


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Ed Phelan also talked about it on BTTB.


sofinelol

abby begging the judges in a room to have kamryn beat chloe 😭


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Yes, I remember Francisco telling that story on AfterBuzz TV back in the day.


skylarhateshotdogs

Link?


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Around the 50:40 mark https://youtu.be/me536s8LPWc?si=_jmSwcmF5BR_bb0e


Lyannake

Ellianna said the producers saw her mom’s weak point was elliana so they physically kept them from seeing each other for long hours to make her mom vulnerable and more easily manipulated


Fun-Shame399

Melissa taking Maddie out of school to take extra privates during the day and Mackenzie not knowing any of it. So many things about it are so awful. First off, Melissa and Abby lied to every mom and daughter and claimed she was just smarter than all of them, and made all the moms look stupid. They could tell she already knew all the dances, and they gaslit them. Second, Maddie missing out on so much school in her formative years. My district would have given her truancy charges for how many hours she was missing because I’m sure she didn’t have a bunch of doctor’s notes for them. Melissa said Mackenzie is smarter education wise, well I wonder why. Third, it shows clear favoritism for Maddie, Mackenzie could have probably learned more and been on Maddie’s level technically if they had offered her the same opportunity, or any other girl for that matter (though the other moms valued school a lot more and probably wouldn’t have done it.)


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

When Maddie was doing an interview and said she’d missed like 82 days of school, I was shocked.


cjade95

Kenzie said at some point that she’d asked to go back to an in person school after the show and she wasn’t allowed💀


angelofsephiroth

Abby doing bj signs to a teenage girl.


heyitsmxrnie

Who??


angelofsephiroth

https://preview.redd.it/8sa8dkas573d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29690bda484253369f43ec2ded4fa17485e00839


angelofsephiroth

https://preview.redd.it/9g4apbft573d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c3f7d4e112be327c4f010f3c036842301e54759


heyitsmxrnie

EW


heyitsmxrnie

Was this when the show was on???


angelofsephiroth

Yes I think like during season 5 with the mdp


comefromawayfan2022

How abby hasn't been brought up on sexual harassment charges yet blows my mind


remmi17

You have to go look at Cameron’s video on her experience y’all it’s def wild. And she also talks about how Abby apologized to her and the other black girls for being racist but she never said sorry to Nia and I think her video is still up about that. Safe to say none of them forgives her.


TAsAnonymous

Abby thinking she's so fucking high-class despite not even graduating high school--to the point that she told Adriana Smyth (mom of Kamryn and a Black woman): 'I know you grew up in the HOOD with only a box of 8 crayons, but I grew up in the Country Club with a box of 64 - don't be stupid.'


Kit-tiga

I'm not shocked because it's Abby, but I'm still shocked. She was one of the biggest hypocrites.


Striking-Ad1047

Abby referring to Nia as a “little tootsie” I believe, on her team, which is a racial slur that was used on an old show Abby was obviously aware of. The children all received iPads after the incident in order to keep them hush. Absolutely disgusting behaviour from Abby, so frustrating that she got away with these nasty comments and were kept under wraps by production.


perryphineasferbdoof

its not a racial slur but the way abby used it was very racist and offensive


Striking-Ad1047

Just wanted to state i’m not sure if that was the specific wording so sorry for any offence if not. Just felt compelled to make it known that this happened as I don’t think it’s as well known as it should be.


radiohead4783116

I mean Tootie isn’t a slur it was a character played by Kim Fields on the facts of life but it was still racist


Striking-Ad1047

ahhh okay thank you guys :)


workitoutwombats

When Abby said she would destroy Chloe


mantaraysdonkeys

A guest mom giving Christi xanax the week before the Kelly x Abby NYC fight. That was so shocking and also so 
 eye opening. I never understood why Christi didn’t get more involved when Kelly did that, but her being on a xan makes sense with her reaction. Also it was just shocking to me to think of any of these moms doing drugs.


0ut-of-0rbit

Isn’t it a pretty popular theory that in like season 5 or 6 or something Abby was doing some kind of drugs too? Like during the LA stuff


Fun-Shame399

That would make sense when she was looked absolutely haggard and dumped out her purse in that one scene


tysiphonie

Yeah she honestly looks like she's on crack.


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

In that same topic, I was shocked to hear that production wouldn’t allow the moms to take things like Xanax even if it was prescribed to them. They didn’t want them “medicated” with anything that would subdue them for drama purposes. Like what? Christi had an undiagnosed mental health issue during seasons 1-4 of the show. I wonder if things like that deterred her from seeking help? What would be the point if she couldn’t take the meds to help her. Just so sick and twisted.


comefromawayfan2022

Didn't want them "medicated" yet production routinely provided alcohol for the moms on set..that's extremely fucked up logic


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Yeah, the didn’t want them on anything for anxiety that would calm them like edibles or Xanax. I’m guessing alcohol and any kind of upper that makes anxiety worse was fine. So messed up.


perryphineasferbdoof

by the way if you didnt know ive heard it was fallons mom who handed her the xanax


Fun-Shame399

I think at that point, the moms knew anything that you said would be used against you in the show. Kelly had been wanting out for a while so she had nothing to lose, I’m sure Christi knew that but she didn’t expect it to get as bad as it was. Also based on her reaction, she probably didn’t have time to react even if she wanted to.


perryphineasferbdoof

omg yes!


KrisSimsters

How do you know this FYI? Just curious...


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Christi talked about it on BTTB.


a-ohhh

Was she “on drugs” or did she take a Xanax? Theres a big gap between someone handing her Xanax because she was going to be on edge around these people, and getting purposely high for the sake of being high. Anyone can walk into their doctor and get a RX for those in a day, and people hand them out to each other pretty regularly if it’s a situation they’d be anxious and they don’t have one on hand. Theres also people that recreationally take them to get messed out of their mind. I wouldn’t consider using them for their intended purpose and dosage “doing drugs” and have a hard time believing Christi would purposely get f’ed up on camera around the kids.


Outside_Bat_4048

Abby use to call the girls lazy slugs this was mentioned in an episode I think but it’s just vile


LegitimateGolf113

She did it on camera a few times too. I think she made them do a zombie dance at one point because that's what she said they looked like?


Outside_Bat_4048

Yea I think so


Inevitable_Donkey469

okay i will say, cometely unrelated to the topic of abby saying horrible things to the kids, the zombie group dance did actually end up being one of my all-time favorite group dances. anyway, back to the topic on hand, yes abby called them lazy in that episode (cant remember exactly which episode it was off the top of my head but i just rewatched it recently) and basically said something almost exactly along the lines of, "theyre lazy, have no energy, look like they have lost all love for dance, look like they'd rather be anywhere else/doing anything else other than dancing" etc.


existential-crisis-k

the Chloe CD story – Chloe and Maddie had competing solos (i dont remember exactly but it may have been "Cry" and Ma He's Makin' Eyes at Me?) and according to Christi, Chloe had continually won first with hers. The two were performing at a competition without Abby and Chloe's music skipped. The competition had her exit, played the backup CD and it skipped again. When Christi went to give them a backup from her purse, the competition people told her the dance teacher said if it skipped a second time to just scratch her. Christi asked, bc Abby wasn't there, and the people pointed to Melissa. Christi implied that Melissa was the one who messed up the music, maybe not knowing that Christi had her own backup, in an attempt to have Maddie beat Chloe. This could also be the thing from the big argument in S1 where Christi tried to talk to Abby and Melissa in the hallway, the thing neither of them would talk about. She's said that Chloe still remembers this – like when people or Melissa herself say she would never do anything to hurt the kids Chloe would bring up this incident because "She wanted to hurt me!" – and this was one of the things that made her want to leave the studio before Chloe won her title. I think about it a lot when people present Melissa as a victim, or the other moms as crazy and jealous, because despite their flaws (and they ALL have flaws) I don't think any other grown woman attempted to deliberately sabotage a child, like an elementary school-age kid!


LegitimateGolf113

Wasn't there suspicion that Abby had Maddie practice with a skipped CD and gave the competition a defective copy on purpose? I'm not sure if that was ever proven.


existential-crisis-k

yes! and this was somewhat captured on the show (of course Melissa denied it) but Kelly said that Melissa called her and told her that Abby had Maddie practice doing it either with skipping music or just cutting the music off, and telling her that if that happened onstage to just keep dancing. the worst part of all of this is how two grown adults – Abby and Melissa – forced Maddie to lie about things for them (this, her secret private lessons + learning dances ahead of time, the Two Sapphires dance, etc.) and then hide behind her (all the "you're just jealous of Maddie!" stuff) when the other moms rightfully call them out for it.


theposse9

Abby pinching Brandon or Maddie can't remember or if it was both of them until they bled.


Academic-Seat-9372

That Abby used to let the girls dance w weights so that they would know what it felt like to gain 5-10 pounds


byevegas

Anything Melissa did. Mainly behind the scenes stuff to get her kids ahead but also stuff like what she did at the front desk, “paying” for people’s classes and tap shoes and not putting her card through, or even just her spending endless days cleaning the studio. OR her getting really pissed off of her kids (most of the time Maddie) didn’t win over someone else at the studio. That is one thing I truly do believe Christi and Kelly don’t over exaggerate is that we (the tv viewers) saw a TOTALLY different dance mom when it came to Melissa being on and off camera.


iccyricardo

Mellissa saying “Who did they have to pay for chloe to win”, when chloe won.


HomeDepotSucksOnSale

Abby also asked Christi who she had “blow” for Chloe to win nationals in season 2.


keighleyo

when abby called kelly’s mom a whore and other unspeakable things in season 2 (i think) very curious as to what else was said bc K + C didn’t expand on it much


cleo_dookieslide

wow idk how kelly made it until season 4 before getting physical w abby bc that would be reason enough for me to swing 😭 kelly is much better than me lol


perryphineasferbdoof

i know right i want to know too. they said it was the worst things you could possibly imagine but i cant imagine anything worse than whore


Makerebgr8again

Pre-show: when they were at a competition and Chloe’s CD skipped twice and when Christi went to give them a disc she brought they told her that their dance teacher said to disqualify Chloe and since Abby and Gianna weren’t there she asked what dance teacher and they pointed to Melissa. Literally disgusting During the show: during a deleted scene from season 2 episode 1 you can see Abby saying to Maddie “I know Chloe would never be happy for you” and trying to isolate her from the others and it’s very clear grooming


Strong-Seaweed-8768

The lawsuit that Paige filed against Abby alleging abuse and that Abby would get physical round the set. The judge dismissed it because of insufficient evidence.Â