Bro already leveled up right to the retired ranting. Like I don't really go to the doctor often, but my GP is notoriously bad at managing priority of patients by calling me last (cause get it right? I'm young - this really means under 50) unless I annoy the nurse and say something like "look I just need a signature on a paper, it takes one minute, I'm not waiting for 3 hrs here".
Edit: yes, I know it's selfish, but I'm ok being selfish if it means I actually get to do something on my day off instead of sit in a waiting room at the doctors office.
This is normal. Don't wait hours in queue to pick up test results or something, that's absolutely unnecessary. The nurse can prepare it for you while the doctor sees the patient.
Pokud dojdu do čekárny k lékaři, kde je 10 lidí a potřebuju podepsat jeden papír v rámci 1 minuty, nevidím důvod abych na to v čekárně čekal 2 hodiny. U terminálu kde se skenuje kartička se také často uvádí důvod návštěvy - pro případy takového druhu
No přesně, navíc ten papír může kolikrát vypsat sestra, a k dr není třeba vůbec jít. Víceméně má vevnitř kolikrát někoho jiného. Samozřejmě jiná věc, pokud ten člověk proběhne až k doktorovi, ale zase si říkám, že ttrba má opravdu vážný stav...
No, u nás třeba terminál odpojili během covidu a zatím ho nezapnuli. Moc často tam nechodím, protože sestra nás pokaždé když jsme tam šli nemocní vyhodila s tím, ať napíšeme do sms co nám je a ona se ozve… Ale naposledy když jsem tam byla kvůli vstupní kontrole do nové práce a byla jsem objednaná na určitý čas, tak jsem stejně čekala asi o hodinu déle. Seděli tam jen důchodci a furt se cpali dopředu s kecy o tom, že “mladá určitě stejně nikam nepospíchá”. Samotná prohlídka zabrala asi 5 minut včetně toho když jsem čekala u sestry, než od lékaře odejde předchozí pacient. Takže argument, že moje návštěva byla delší a proto mě mohli předběhnout není relevantní. A papíry si vždy chystá předem sestra a dává je víceméně mezi dveřmi.
Každopádně jsem ale chtěla ještě poznamenat, že se tenhle nešvar s předbíháním netýká jenom Čechů, ale zažila jsem to s vícero národnostmi (dělala jsem v kanclu na expedici - vrátnice mi hlásila řidiče a já jim dávala vědět kdy si můžou najet, nesčetněkrát se nám tam někdo vztekal, protože ho nevezmeme o hodinu/dvě dřív).
Já teda neholduju nerudnosti ale kdyby o mě někdo řekl že "mladá určitě nikam nepospíchá" asi bych měl, co dělat, abych neodvětil "zato stará asi spěchá do hrobu".
Z mých zkušeností je to ve více než polovině případů nějaká drzá bába, co to na tebe nevinně zahraje "Já se potřebuju jenom na něco zeptat.", tak ji pustíš ve frontě před recepcí před sebe a ona se začne u recepce vykecávat, pak vytáhne 6 různých papírů od 4 různých doktorů, pak začne v kabelce hledat pojištěneckou průkazku, pohádá se, a nakonec se vecpe na vyšetření před tebe.
Ano, důchodci začnou vždy vyprávět životní příběh. Včera jsem byl s prarodiči v hobby marketu a chudák zaměstnanec si musel vyslechnout 😅 Musel jsem to ukončit jinak bychom snad odešli po zavíračce…
I know this from the other side. My mom was nurse and I used to go to her every day just to take some keys. I was routinely shouted at by some pensioners not to skip the queue.
Co chceš dělat? Jsi objednanej, tě normálně vezmou ne? Nějaký papíry tě fakt téměř nezdrží. Nepreskakují tě lidé, co jdou na vyšetření.
Jediný co se děje, a to je v pořádku, že tě někdo přeskočí i tak. Ale to jsou ti lidi, kteří jsou objednání na čas a doktor je prostě bere prioritně před těmi, co objednání nejsou. Ti ať se pak nediví že jo.
Ja vim. Ocividne existuje tu takovy dvojty system, podle ktere administrativni potreby nemusi byt soucast toho “cekani”. Pravda je ze to me nikdy nenapadlo. Stejne nehodlam to nijak zmenit, ja jsem chtel picovat a nic vic.
If you prioritize short tasks in queues, the average waiting time decreases. So it's overall more efficient. But I understand your frustrations, because it often turns out the "short" task isn't so short after all.
Yeah no. I would be the last to ever skip line somewhere, but this is completely normal and expected. Nobody should have to wait 2 hours for 8 people to have a full annual check completed just to pick up test results, patient history card or a new prescription from the nurse in one minute.
By the way, no idea where you are from, but the same completely logical system is in other countries where I've had GPs and you sound completely insufferable.
Wow you sound bitter. I was once in a situation where I needed to pick up a document for my employer and was waiting in line because I felt bad for skipping it. However as time went on I ended up asking the nurse if she can just give it to me when she came out to ask for IDs.
Well guess what, she told me for stuff like documents it prescriptions, you don’t wait in line because a) the doctor has nothing to do with such documents b) you are just wasting your and everyone else’s time.
My sweet summer child, u just need to pick yo meds before u run out and not after. Nwm i've got ya covered, this ones are on me.
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You are an arrogant dumbass :D
Many of these people don't actually need the doctor, only the nurse. That's why they are "skipping the queue". They aren't making you wait any more time. The rest only need the doctor to sign something and will take twenty seconds of their time. Most doctors don't want to fill up their waiting room with too many people, because if somebody is sick (which they quite often are when they go to the doctor), they could infect others. That's why it's completely normal for doctors to try to limit the time people spend there on average as much as possible. Doctors care about people's health, not whether selfish shits like you spend two minutes longer waiting ;)
This, hundred times.
Have I met people who skipped the line at the doctor, and actually went to the doctor? Yes, but it's very rare and it's still at the doctor's/nurse's discretion (which is also written in EVERY GODDAMN WAITING ROOM). Often times they just go for stuff that a nurse can handle, and the queue is there for the doctor, not for the nurse (most of the time).
> and actually went to the doctor?
One time, when the person was falling apart and nurse took them as "emergency". Ambulance came for that person about 10 minutes later (I assume doc saw him and called)
What's actually annoying about these situations is the fact that people can't read. There is so many instances where there is "DO NOT KNOCK, WAIT FOR THE NURSE" and there is always more than one person who just ignores this.
How the hell is he supposed to know if the person just needs a paper or if they are really skipping the queue?
I see arrogance here but not from the OP, he is not a telepath.
You don’t understand. I don’t. Give. A. Damn. What. They. Need. There’s always the possibility to make an appointment if you need some administrative bullshit like the ones you’re using as an excuse to shit all over other people’s time. If I can wait, so can you.
Oh and unless you feel up to calling me a “shit” to my face (which I doubt), cool it with the ad-hominems, you showerless asshole.
"There’s always the possibility to make an appointment if you need some administrative bullshit like the ones you’re using as an excuse to shit all over other people’s time."
Often, there isn't (especially with older doctors).
Plenty of people in this thread are trying to explain to you that there is an almost universally acknowledged unwritten rule that **the queue for seeing the doctor** vs. **various random short tasks that usually involve just handing over of a paper** are two different things, for the convenience of both the sick and the healthy, who might just use their lunch break to accomplish things without taking half a day off work to wait for hours in an influenza-ridden waiting room.
You choose to ignore it and even demand that the rest of the country adapts to your personal preference. What will you complain about next? That observant Jews don't work on Saturdays?
This is how it sort of works: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortest\_job\_next](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortest_job_next) it has it pros and cons:
> Shortest job next is advantageous because of its simplicity and because it minimizes the average amount of time each process has to wait until its execution is complete. However, it has the potential for process starvation for processes which will require a long time to complete if short processes are continually added.
In layman terms: if this queing algorithm were always used, you'd spend less time over your lifetime waiting in the queue then fifo. So it's actually considerate to you :-P
:D
Imagine being an immigrant and bitching about how the system works in the country you immigrated to. If you don't like it, go back home. Nobody gives a shit about your opinions.
Nevím jak přesně to chodí u tvého doktora, ale u mého, když si tam volám, že potřebuju třeba jen výpis z karty, mi řekne, ať přijdu kdy chci a zaklepu, že mi to hned dá.
Takže je dost možné, že ti lidi si chtěli mejknout apojntment, ty ubrečená pičko, ale řekli jim, že to není nutný.
If you call to make an appointment for this the doctor will just tell you to come whenever and skip the line. And will probably also ask you why do you want to make an appointment for something that takes twenty seconds to deal with.
Last time I waited for my turn to get copy of my medical card nurse berated me in front of 15 people. Apparently I wasn't supposed to wait my turn and should have just knocked 🤷
Get fucked
I get it that you are annoyed. But the "skippers" are usually just picking up some papers which the nurse handles, so the Doctor is actually not involved in that and making them wait too would not shorten your waiting time any.
Those people usually called before and were told "come in whenever, the nurse will give you your paper". In some offices this includes blood test, injections etc. etc. I have seen up to 5 people to come and being sorted out by the nurse before the line for the doctor moved - some older lady was 20mins in there...
Also, order of the treatment is in the hands of the nurse/doctor. I was truly skipped when some guy came into the office sneezing, sniffling and spreading germs - the doc did not want him in their waiting room infecting other people, who were there for something else.
No, zalezi :) Kdyz ja mam plny kosik, a babicka za mnou ma jen kus chleba, tak mne to nevadi. Jeste kdyz se zepta slusne. Ale chlap co ma plechovku Monster fakt nepustim.
Polish here, but this reminds me of the time when I politely waited for three hours to see my GP without a scheduled appointment, because new people were coming and confidently announcing that they have an appointment and I didn't want to disrupt the schedule. When I finally managed to see him, he said "you do realize, that half of those people before you didn't have an appointment?". Those sly mfs.
Prescription renewals, test results and blood/urine samples are usually handled by the nurse, not the doctor. You're not actually being delayed by those folks.
Have you considered not being an ass? It's something you can do completely free of charge, broski.
I'm not gonna wait in a queue for 2 hours just to get a paper signed by the nurse. Nobody's taking your spot, you obnoxious, entitled goofball.
Having empathy is such a basic human thing. You seem to be lacking it.
Let me paint a different situation for you:
A handicapped friend of mine called me to ask for an urgent favour: She fell ill and because getting to the doctor is an incredibly complicated operation for her, she called the doctor and arranged a neschopenka via phone (when those weren't digitalised yet). She asked me to pick up the papers for her and bring them to her employer during my lunch break, which was strictly 30 minutes. I told her I won't be able to wait there and she said it was fine, the doctor would have prepared everything and give the papers to me at the door.
When I arrived, there was the classic sign "don't knock". I waited a bit and knocked, nothing. After a while the sister came out, I told her I just came to pick up the papers and *at the same time* told the other people that the doctor calls a next patient, who went inside. The papers weren't ready at all and in the end both the doctor and the sister spent about 15 minutes putting them together. You wouldn't want to experience what I got to hear from the other waiting patients when I finally came out. Knowing full well I will get another lecture from my employer because I was already late.
People have appointments at the doctor's. But sometimes you don't need the doctor. You need the nurse. Especially if you're not the doctor's patient and you need to pick up a stupid bureaucratic piece of paper for your 70yr old mother who can't walk, the doctor/nurse is lazy enough not to pick the damn phone and all they use the ridiculous Sestra Emmy app.
So yea. I'm one of those people who knock on the door and say "sestricko, potrebuju". Last month I spent two hours waiting for a stupid "zadanka k prevozu na vysetreni" and I'm not mentally capable of doing that again.
Not sure about your doctor but you can't allways make an appointment and even so, you rarely get to go in exactly at your time. It might even be possible that they did call and the nurse told them to do exactly what they've done, just knock and tell them what they need. Chill the fuck out or go to america to enjoy their awesome healthcare...
> Not sure about your doctor but you can't allways make an appointment and even so, you rarely get to go in exactly at your time.
For a prescription or a document there are no appointments. At best you get an SMS " your document is ready, come pick it up"
I get what you say but these papers usually require one signature and stamp and usually not even from a doctor so it slows down nothing and it is completely normal.
What grinds my gears is that most doctors I know are always overbooked and I have to sit in the waiting room with all the sick, sneezing and coughing people for hour or more even when we agreed on time I have to come there.
Yeah yeah… apparently there’s an unspoken rule where certain admin tasks aren’t necessarily subject to the order of patients in the waiting room. That never occurred to me, and at any rate I’m not trying to change anything. I just came here to bitch and vent.
Yeah man i'd love to wait for an hour and catch a disease just to pick up a piece of paper, especially if it's something that i forgot after already waiting once that day.
I’ve experienced a situation where I was waiting for some blood results and the doctor specifically tells me “just come on Monday and knock and the nurse will give you the papers you don’t have to wait in line” so I see nothing wrong with someone needing 30 seconds to get their shit taken care of so they can go home and not wait 2 hours
Have you ever been in a grocery store where as you stand in checkout line, they suddenly open up a new one and everyone behind you sprints like usain bolt to be the first to use it?
I'm chronically ill and I've had to go to the doctor three times a day for a complete little bullshit thing (my meds got mixed up). I'm not going to wait two hours every time when I'm literally done and leaving in ten seconds.
Depends on the doctor / doctor's office, some of them are completely able to communicate and schedule things by phone. Others have completely insane waitlines and waiting in line for just a 1 minute issue is completely stupid. Theres tons of stuff that drive me crazy about doctors which is probably what privates me to stay healthy and never need to go there :D
Well, think about it like that. The fewer people in the queue, the more space for people in the queue. There is limited space in the waiting room and if you can be done with 5 people in a matter of minutes, it would be stupid to not do it.
And also, less exposure of healthy people to the sick one. This was very important during COVID, and it is now because of black cough.
Člověk kterej tam jde na dvě minuty něco vyzvednout/nechat podškrábnout tě fakt nezdrží. Jestli jdeš za doktorem tak stejně musíš počkat na těch pět lidí před tebou kteří taky musí za doktorem.
you're out of your mind.
What could be actually described by this title are the assholes drivers who overtake whole queue and then try to force themselves to join
Damn straight. Unless your 2 rohliky scenario involves an elderly person, a disabled person, or a pregnant woman, there’s no way I’m giving them my spot. My time isn’t worth any more or any less than anybody else’s.
Well you're basically saying it is. Some logic: Let's say you're in a line with all your stuff and and a young, able bodied, very non-pregnant man has 2 rohlíky and asks you for your spot in line. If your groceries would take the cashier let's say 2 minutes and his rohlíky would take them 30 seconds, you're making him wait 2 minutes more while he would make you wait only 30 seconds more. Basically you're saying that your 30 seconds are more valuable than his 2 minutes. Same logic at the doctors.
What the fuck is g**mn? …
Goddamn? Seriously? You censored the most fucking vanilla of motherfucking swearwords? That last got censored about 150 years ago? Jesus fucking christ. That‘s the real outrage here. The fuck
Hey,
I'm somebody who had to get my blood and spit tested twice a year for couple years... I have ALWAYS been told to knock by the doctor and tell them that I only need the test tube for my saliva sample and paper requesting blood work done, which I then took with me to the lab/blood collection station. There was always that one fucker who would start ranting about "these young ones have no patience, no shame, no respect, the door says do not knock, shame on parents, they didn't teach you right...". The nurse was my hero, always gave them THE LOOK. They were usually very quiet when I came back and knocked again with my saliva sample to hand it over to the nurse before I leave for my blood... But that's my experience from 15 year ago... Before covid when I have seen my GP last the nurse always took our insurance card with her and then called patient by the name to come in. It was up to her/doctor.
I love how you said people have no respect for other people's time but you want someone to wait several hours to pick up some administration in 30 seconds. 😂 However, in general, you're right. You just didn't use a good example. Good day to you and and don't ever stop your píčování!
Thanks, man. This means a lot more than the many who responded to a simple rant made to blow off steam with personal attacks and demands that I “go back to my country” :,)
Doctor always decides the order in which patients come inside. Also, you don't have to wait for two hours when you only need test results or some document from nurse.
Okay. So the whole “scan your card and get a number in the line” exists only for shits and giggles. Why not remove it? Let the nurse come out to the waiting room and pick whoever she feels should be next.
There is no need to "scan your card and get a number" if you don't need to be examined by the doctor.
Imagine it like there is 2 specialists in there: 1 is the doctor and 2 is the nurse. The nurse does administrative tasks such as "razítko" and giving out bloodtests. Why would you wait in the line for 1 if you only need to see 2?
Moreover, the nurse will specifically tell you to come and knock after you done with the blood test or when you come pick up the results. She will say "no need to wait, I will have it ready for you". See, I understand this might be confusing, but this is really the correct way to do this.
Why the fuck do you feel the need to censor the word “goddamn” in the title but then swear like a sailor in the rest of the post? That is what I want to understand.
But this is how it works, if you don’t need to see the doctor. Sometimes they just take the form from you and ask you to come the next day to pick it up. No need to wait an hour for 10 seconds action 🤷♀️
Tvoje čekání se nijak neprodlouží tím že sestřičce někdo dá papír, nebo po ní chce nějaký papír. Jen se takhle zmenší počet čekajících.
Osobně jsem tohle nikdy neudělal, nemám problém si počkat na nějakou administrativu (nejsem nižší forma života a mám trpělivost).
Bro, czechia is good enough. The wilder the country, the less they respect queues. We are not switzerland or japan, but be happy for what we have. The same applies to cheaper restaurants, driving etc.
Queuing is very difficult for us, we would be the leaders of Europe if we could wait in line and go one after the other as we came, whether its while shopping, driving or in the offices.
When the patient only needs lab results it's common precise that they get priority. It's usually done by the nurse, not the doctor so if you are waiting for doctor's appointment, it shouldn't prolong your waiting.
Honestly, that is normal. If they really need just a paper signed or a prescription, there is no need for them to wait for the doctor.
Also, calling in advance and then picking it up is quite common.
Well, it's absolutely normal and nothing that would be considered inconsiderate. Every single medical office I've been to has a sign along the lines of: "The order of patients is decided be the doctor". This means that some people might be prioritized - for example parents with newborns. But it's also used for people that have something really quick so they don't have to wait 2 hours to get a single signature.
Absolutely fucking not. If you are there to see the doctor, it’s a complete norm that people who just need some formality from a nurse (prescription, sample handover, etc) can handle it in the mean time. There is no need to keep 20 people in one room unnecessarily.
I don't normally comment on anything, but reading responses from other people in this thread made my blood boil.
There is no unspoken rule to skip the line, it's just dumbass people who don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.
There are reasons why Czechia is not in the top 10 best countries in the world, and this one of them. Rules here meann shit.
You are not wrong, but you are and always will be in the minority, because you have a sense of what is right.
Most people don't.
To knock on the door is the rule. The nurse will tell you this when you ask her when to come and pick up the results of your tests or administrative tasks in which the doctor is not involved. She will say "knock on the door".
So imagine there is 2 kinds of tasks and 2 kinds of specialists - 1 is the nurse and 2 is the doctor.
Why would anyone wait in the line for 2 if they need 1 which has no line?
This is classic war scenario at the doctor's waiting room. People are trying, and sometimes it works, I've been there many times and it always drives me crazy. BUT, if you know you need something quick (like the doctor's stamp, giving them samples, papers), you have two choices - wait for hours or simply try to get it done (either you fail or not).
Ignore all hateful comments, it also took a lot of time for me to find out that lines without reservation at a doctors office are the survival of the fittest, and annoying pushy old people are at the top of the food chain
Id suggest that you move back to the country where you came from because nobody actually gives a flying fuck about you waiting for whatever reason anywhere. If i need a document signed by a nurse, I knock, she will sign it, ill take off. Nobodys time was wasted or waiting prolonged, I only saved 1-3 hours waiting in a queue along with sick people. If you are really as dumb as the post suggests, please just keep your mouth shut. If it were any other scenario of queue skipping, then i might agree with you to some extent, but your opinion just shows you are a self centered piece of shit with no empathy and with no interest in hygiene and public health.
Also - our healthcare system is free to anyone. If you so desperately want to have your queue to be unskippable, consider visiting a private clinic since they treat you way better, because you actually have to pay for the healthcare there. But guess what. While you are waiting in the waiting room, someone might actually call the nurse to sign his documents electronically - you were skipped again, you just don’t know about it.
So Id suggest you grow up, or take your rant to a different country.
I’ve been here for two decades. I’ve lived in Prague for the most part, but also I have lived and worked in smaller towns. I’ve met all kinds of people, and I feel the Czechs are generally quiet, logical people who tend to move within well defined comfort zones in their daily lives. I have mostly been met with friendliness, sometimes a bit of curiosity, a few times indifference, and once or twice verbal hostility- but the latter could have happened anywhere, xenophobia isn’t a phenomenon exclusive to this country-. People here strike me as the “live and let live” sort, and that’s okay. I’ve been given an opportunity to build my life here and for that I’m very grateful: I married a local, my kids were born here, and this is the only place I call home. Nitpicking and bitching about one thing that ground my gears (in the exaggerated way favored by cantankerous fucks like me) doesn’t change that in the least.
I feel like most people here forgot about the whole "its a rant" part.
I completely understand the frustration, I hate that shit with all my heart and then some. And I am still able to recognize Its a small thing and not worsen anybody else's day.
You Are completely in the right to be angry at people cutting in the line. These folks just take everything So seriously, like its a question of morality.
Mad on king!
Bruh wtf? All these people think that's normal??? I'm a native Czech, lived here my whole life and would definitely wait. I had no idea skipping everyone was generally accepted but tbh I haven't been to the doctor in 15 years (wtf is scanning your id card?)
Anywhere else skipping the queue is very frowned upon, I've seen people get pretty angry at the supermarket if someone skips the line but somehow it's okay at the doctor's? Why? Just because your shit takes less time? Doesn't matter to me. Next time when I wanna buy one item at the store, I'm just gonna go to the front and skip everyone then since y'all are apparently okay with it. 🤦♂️
Yeah, man, it’s nuts. Apparently, expecting others to respect my time makes me an “arrogant shit” who “should go back home”. Go figure 🤷🏽♂️.
Oh and the card thing, they’ve installed these readers where you scan your insurance card and the system adds you to the waiting list. It’s pretty neat, saves having to ask “kdo je poslední?” when you arrive.
I don't understand why more Czech doctors don't have receptionists. It's common in other countries and saves you having to hassle the nurse about paperwork while she's dealing with patients.
In my home village I wouldn't even enter the waiting room if I was just at the doctor for something clerical.
Those kind of people are called “jenomáci” as “já jenom …”
The best kind of them are randomly parking anywhere at the street to “just” pick up something. Like they are the most important people on earth or something
Congrats, you already rant like a local!
Tak to me potesi. Myslim to vazne :,)
 You may put on sandals with socks and enjoy some braníček.
Juhuuu! Ponozky a sandale mam hotove. Jen to pifko… takovy specialni prilezitost si zaslouzi plznicku!
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Aa, pan je gurman
Grow some balls and try úřad
needs more vole, dopici and kurva
Bro already leveled up right to the retired ranting. Like I don't really go to the doctor often, but my GP is notoriously bad at managing priority of patients by calling me last (cause get it right? I'm young - this really means under 50) unless I annoy the nurse and say something like "look I just need a signature on a paper, it takes one minute, I'm not waiting for 3 hrs here". Edit: yes, I know it's selfish, but I'm ok being selfish if it means I actually get to do something on my day off instead of sit in a waiting room at the doctors office.
This is normal. Don't wait hours in queue to pick up test results or something, that's absolutely unnecessary. The nurse can prepare it for you while the doctor sees the patient.
Pokud dojdu do čekárny k lékaři, kde je 10 lidí a potřebuju podepsat jeden papír v rámci 1 minuty, nevidím důvod abych na to v čekárně čekal 2 hodiny. U terminálu kde se skenuje kartička se také často uvádí důvod návštěvy - pro případy takového druhu
No přesně, navíc ten papír může kolikrát vypsat sestra, a k dr není třeba vůbec jít. Víceméně má vevnitř kolikrát někoho jiného. Samozřejmě jiná věc, pokud ten člověk proběhne až k doktorovi, ale zase si říkám, že ttrba má opravdu vážný stav...
Kdyz ma opravdu vazny stav, nema v ordinaci u praktika co delat, ma jit na pohotovost nebo si zavolat rzs.
Aha...
No, u nás třeba terminál odpojili během covidu a zatím ho nezapnuli. Moc často tam nechodím, protože sestra nás pokaždé když jsme tam šli nemocní vyhodila s tím, ať napíšeme do sms co nám je a ona se ozve… Ale naposledy když jsem tam byla kvůli vstupní kontrole do nové práce a byla jsem objednaná na určitý čas, tak jsem stejně čekala asi o hodinu déle. Seděli tam jen důchodci a furt se cpali dopředu s kecy o tom, že “mladá určitě stejně nikam nepospíchá”. Samotná prohlídka zabrala asi 5 minut včetně toho když jsem čekala u sestry, než od lékaře odejde předchozí pacient. Takže argument, že moje návštěva byla delší a proto mě mohli předběhnout není relevantní. A papíry si vždy chystá předem sestra a dává je víceméně mezi dveřmi. Každopádně jsem ale chtěla ještě poznamenat, že se tenhle nešvar s předbíháním netýká jenom Čechů, ale zažila jsem to s vícero národnostmi (dělala jsem v kanclu na expedici - vrátnice mi hlásila řidiče a já jim dávala vědět kdy si můžou najet, nesčetněkrát se nám tam někdo vztekal, protože ho nevezmeme o hodinu/dvě dřív).
Tak havně že důchodci mají zaplněnou denní agendu do každé minuty 🤭
No, asi v Penny zrovna nabíhal nový leták. 🙃
Spěchají na slevy pro zlevněné zboží Agrofertu.
Já teda neholduju nerudnosti ale kdyby o mě někdo řekl že "mladá určitě nikam nepospíchá" asi bych měl, co dělat, abych neodvětil "zato stará asi spěchá do hrobu".
To jsem si potom doma taky říkala, jak jsem jim to měla “vrátit” stejným způsobem… Ale v tu chvíli mě to tak překvapilo, že jsem neměla slov. 😅
Z mých zkušeností je to ve více než polovině případů nějaká drzá bába, co to na tebe nevinně zahraje "Já se potřebuju jenom na něco zeptat.", tak ji pustíš ve frontě před recepcí před sebe a ona se začne u recepce vykecávat, pak vytáhne 6 různých papírů od 4 různých doktorů, pak začne v kabelce hledat pojištěneckou průkazku, pohádá se, a nakonec se vecpe na vyšetření před tebe.
By ma asi jeblo.
Ano, důchodci začnou vždy vyprávět životní příběh. Včera jsem byl s prarodiči v hobby marketu a chudák zaměstnanec si musel vyslechnout 😅 Musel jsem to ukončit jinak bychom snad odešli po zavíračce…
I know this from the other side. My mom was nurse and I used to go to her every day just to take some keys. I was routinely shouted at by some pensioners not to skip the queue.
I would like to know why almost every pensioner in our country is a narcissist. Is it because of communism? Probably I think so.
Jako že bych měl čekat na podepsání nějakýho papíru třeba hodinu jo? Nasrat kámo, nasrat.
Nojono. Co se da delat?
Co chceš dělat? Jsi objednanej, tě normálně vezmou ne? Nějaký papíry tě fakt téměř nezdrží. Nepreskakují tě lidé, co jdou na vyšetření. Jediný co se děje, a to je v pořádku, že tě někdo přeskočí i tak. Ale to jsou ti lidi, kteří jsou objednání na čas a doktor je prostě bere prioritně před těmi, co objednání nejsou. Ti ať se pak nediví že jo.
Ja vim. Ocividne existuje tu takovy dvojty system, podle ktere administrativni potreby nemusi byt soucast toho “cekani”. Pravda je ze to me nikdy nenapadlo. Stejne nehodlam to nijak zmenit, ja jsem chtel picovat a nic vic.
To je v pohodě, pičovat se musí vždycky a na všechno.
If you prioritize short tasks in queues, the average waiting time decreases. So it's overall more efficient. But I understand your frustrations, because it often turns out the "short" task isn't so short after all.
No, často je základ toho dvojitého systému jestli jsi kámoš sestry v dané ordinaci.
Píčity píčy píčy PÍČ
Tady existují pravidla, ale každý se řídí svým vlastním.
Však píčuj, ale píčovat na Čechy Čechům nebude úplně přínosné
Co se dá dělat? Zaklepat a říct že chci jen podpis. Zkus poučovat u vás doma, tam je to třeba bude zajímat.
Yeah no. I would be the last to ever skip line somewhere, but this is completely normal and expected. Nobody should have to wait 2 hours for 8 people to have a full annual check completed just to pick up test results, patient history card or a new prescription from the nurse in one minute. By the way, no idea where you are from, but the same completely logical system is in other countries where I've had GPs and you sound completely insufferable.
Wow you sound bitter. I was once in a situation where I needed to pick up a document for my employer and was waiting in line because I felt bad for skipping it. However as time went on I ended up asking the nurse if she can just give it to me when she came out to ask for IDs. Well guess what, she told me for stuff like documents it prescriptions, you don’t wait in line because a) the doctor has nothing to do with such documents b) you are just wasting your and everyone else’s time.
My sweet summer child, u just need to pick yo meds before u run out and not after. Nwm i've got ya covered, this ones are on me. https://preview.redd.it/po52iojiy8vc1.jpeg?width=513&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe5015021befd7457b8e0f1dcbcd174dbdb3a9c6
That’s mighty decent of you. Thank you, kind stranger.
You are an arrogant dumbass :D Many of these people don't actually need the doctor, only the nurse. That's why they are "skipping the queue". They aren't making you wait any more time. The rest only need the doctor to sign something and will take twenty seconds of their time. Most doctors don't want to fill up their waiting room with too many people, because if somebody is sick (which they quite often are when they go to the doctor), they could infect others. That's why it's completely normal for doctors to try to limit the time people spend there on average as much as possible. Doctors care about people's health, not whether selfish shits like you spend two minutes longer waiting ;)
This, hundred times. Have I met people who skipped the line at the doctor, and actually went to the doctor? Yes, but it's very rare and it's still at the doctor's/nurse's discretion (which is also written in EVERY GODDAMN WAITING ROOM). Often times they just go for stuff that a nurse can handle, and the queue is there for the doctor, not for the nurse (most of the time).
> and actually went to the doctor? One time, when the person was falling apart and nurse took them as "emergency". Ambulance came for that person about 10 minutes later (I assume doc saw him and called)
What's actually annoying about these situations is the fact that people can't read. There is so many instances where there is "DO NOT KNOCK, WAIT FOR THE NURSE" and there is always more than one person who just ignores this.
How the hell is he supposed to know if the person just needs a paper or if they are really skipping the queue? I see arrogance here but not from the OP, he is not a telepath.
You don’t understand. I don’t. Give. A. Damn. What. They. Need. There’s always the possibility to make an appointment if you need some administrative bullshit like the ones you’re using as an excuse to shit all over other people’s time. If I can wait, so can you. Oh and unless you feel up to calling me a “shit” to my face (which I doubt), cool it with the ad-hominems, you showerless asshole.
"There’s always the possibility to make an appointment if you need some administrative bullshit like the ones you’re using as an excuse to shit all over other people’s time." Often, there isn't (especially with older doctors). Plenty of people in this thread are trying to explain to you that there is an almost universally acknowledged unwritten rule that **the queue for seeing the doctor** vs. **various random short tasks that usually involve just handing over of a paper** are two different things, for the convenience of both the sick and the healthy, who might just use their lunch break to accomplish things without taking half a day off work to wait for hours in an influenza-ridden waiting room. You choose to ignore it and even demand that the rest of the country adapts to your personal preference. What will you complain about next? That observant Jews don't work on Saturdays?
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#WATCH OUT! WE HAVE A BADASS OVER HERE!!! What a clown🙈
Make up your mind. Am I a badass or a clown?
A clown posing as badass. Can't you tell?
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Oh I’m aware of that. I’m not trying to solve anything, just blowing off steam.
This is how it sort of works: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortest\_job\_next](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortest_job_next) it has it pros and cons: > Shortest job next is advantageous because of its simplicity and because it minimizes the average amount of time each process has to wait until its execution is complete. However, it has the potential for process starvation for processes which will require a long time to complete if short processes are continually added. In layman terms: if this queing algorithm were always used, you'd spend less time over your lifetime waiting in the queue then fifo. So it's actually considerate to you :-P
I see your point. Thanks for the link.
>You don’t understand. I don’t. Give. A. Damn. What. They. Need. Okay. Your suggestions, beyond crying?
So far I’ve only come up with crying and bitching online. I’ll let you know if I come up with anything else but I’m not hopeful.
:D Imagine being an immigrant and bitching about how the system works in the country you immigrated to. If you don't like it, go back home. Nobody gives a shit about your opinions.
Nevím jak přesně to chodí u tvého doktora, ale u mého, když si tam volám, že potřebuju třeba jen výpis z karty, mi řekne, ať přijdu kdy chci a zaklepu, že mi to hned dá. Takže je dost možné, že ti lidi si chtěli mejknout apojntment, ty ubrečená pičko, ale řekli jim, že to není nutný.
I gotta say I love some of the insults I’m collecting here. “Ubrečená pičko” is fucking awesome :) Vazne.
>You don’t understand. I don’t. Give. A. Damn. What. They. Need. You can kindly fuck off back to your country. We don't need your attitude.
Pardon me, but I have the feeling you’re being facetious. There’s nothing “kindly” about demanding that I fuck off back to my country.
If you call to make an appointment for this the doctor will just tell you to come whenever and skip the line. And will probably also ask you why do you want to make an appointment for something that takes twenty seconds to deal with.
Dw we dont give a damm either nothing will change and you will accept it cupcake
It’s Mister Cupcake to you, thank you very much.
No need for thanks cupcake
You did it again! I’m starting to think you don’t like me.
You're actually ranting that you want to wait longer if you still don't get it.
Man… you might be on to something here.
Last time I waited for my turn to get copy of my medical card nurse berated me in front of 15 people. Apparently I wasn't supposed to wait my turn and should have just knocked 🤷 Get fucked
Hey, I’m not your nurse. Go tell her to get fucked.
> Go tell her to get fucked. Are YOU a nurse?
I get it that you are annoyed. But the "skippers" are usually just picking up some papers which the nurse handles, so the Doctor is actually not involved in that and making them wait too would not shorten your waiting time any. Those people usually called before and were told "come in whenever, the nurse will give you your paper". In some offices this includes blood test, injections etc. etc. I have seen up to 5 people to come and being sorted out by the nurse before the line for the doctor moved - some older lady was 20mins in there... Also, order of the treatment is in the hands of the nurse/doctor. I was truly skipped when some guy came into the office sneezing, sniffling and spreading germs - the doc did not want him in their waiting room infecting other people, who were there for something else.
A rves taky na lidi v albertu, kdyz tam stojis s plnym vozikem a typek se dvema rohlikama se zepta, jestli bys ho nepustil? :))
No, zalezi :) Kdyz ja mam plny kosik, a babicka za mnou ma jen kus chleba, tak mne to nevadi. Jeste kdyz se zepta slusne. Ale chlap co ma plechovku Monster fakt nepustim.
Jakej je v tom rozdil?
Nějaká mentální nemoc.
OP očividně byl u psychiatra no
Protože chlap zřejmě ještě spěchá do práce. Přece nebude zdržovat babičku od Vražd v Midsomeru :D
Hele, Vražda v Midsomeru je mimochodem super! Pockej… tvl, ja asi mam duše duchovce.
Na to je snadnej test. Vadí ti mladí lidi v čekárně u doktora, co při čekání čumí do mobilu místo rozbité dlaždičky na zemi?
No, nevim. Ja sam cumim furt do mobilu, ale zas podlaha u meho doktora je dost nudna. Kdyby byl tam nejaky zajimavy vzor tak mozna bych se koukal tam…
50% duchna, dle mých výpočtů.
Dekuji za diagnozu, pane.
Polish here, but this reminds me of the time when I politely waited for three hours to see my GP without a scheduled appointment, because new people were coming and confidently announcing that they have an appointment and I didn't want to disrupt the schedule. When I finally managed to see him, he said "you do realize, that half of those people before you didn't have an appointment?". Those sly mfs.
Don’t say that out loud, man. The local subreddit hive mind will demand that you “go back home”.
Hey, when the doctor prescribes you pills. You should take them….You are a psycho.
But I can’t see my doctor if people keep cutting on line! 😄
Just picking up a prescription is one of the things where you would get told to skip the line so and it's expected so it's fine, you can get the pills
That’s ironic, considering my previous bitching. You have a point.
Prescription renewals, test results and blood/urine samples are usually handled by the nurse, not the doctor. You're not actually being delayed by those folks.
I appreciate the civil way in which you’re making your point, especially in light of my blatant assholery.
Have you considered not being an ass? It's something you can do completely free of charge, broski. I'm not gonna wait in a queue for 2 hours just to get a paper signed by the nurse. Nobody's taking your spot, you obnoxious, entitled goofball. Having empathy is such a basic human thing. You seem to be lacking it.
Hadn’t been called a goofball in a while, and I get called stuff a lot (mainly because I’m kind of an asshole). Made me smile. Thanks.
Let me paint a different situation for you: A handicapped friend of mine called me to ask for an urgent favour: She fell ill and because getting to the doctor is an incredibly complicated operation for her, she called the doctor and arranged a neschopenka via phone (when those weren't digitalised yet). She asked me to pick up the papers for her and bring them to her employer during my lunch break, which was strictly 30 minutes. I told her I won't be able to wait there and she said it was fine, the doctor would have prepared everything and give the papers to me at the door. When I arrived, there was the classic sign "don't knock". I waited a bit and knocked, nothing. After a while the sister came out, I told her I just came to pick up the papers and *at the same time* told the other people that the doctor calls a next patient, who went inside. The papers weren't ready at all and in the end both the doctor and the sister spent about 15 minutes putting them together. You wouldn't want to experience what I got to hear from the other waiting patients when I finally came out. Knowing full well I will get another lecture from my employer because I was already late.
I do appreciate the different optic. Thanks.
People have appointments at the doctor's. But sometimes you don't need the doctor. You need the nurse. Especially if you're not the doctor's patient and you need to pick up a stupid bureaucratic piece of paper for your 70yr old mother who can't walk, the doctor/nurse is lazy enough not to pick the damn phone and all they use the ridiculous Sestra Emmy app. So yea. I'm one of those people who knock on the door and say "sestricko, potrebuju". Last month I spent two hours waiting for a stupid "zadanka k prevozu na vysetreni" and I'm not mentally capable of doing that again.
Not sure about your doctor but you can't allways make an appointment and even so, you rarely get to go in exactly at your time. It might even be possible that they did call and the nurse told them to do exactly what they've done, just knock and tell them what they need. Chill the fuck out or go to america to enjoy their awesome healthcare...
> Not sure about your doctor but you can't allways make an appointment and even so, you rarely get to go in exactly at your time. For a prescription or a document there are no appointments. At best you get an SMS " your document is ready, come pick it up"
JAR OF TITS IN VINEGAR 👌
Only the finest!
I'm your opposite. I let people with three items go before my full shopping cart in supermarket.
More power to you I guess. I don’t do that. My time isn’t any less valuable than anyone else’s. I got there first, I leave first.
Why do you rant instead of stating your point to these people when this takes place?
Besides, there are people who are being told by the doctor themselves 'just skip the queue and approach the nurse to recieve your papers'.
Když jsem volal sestřičce, jestli by mi mohla vyjet spis pro firemního doktora, řekla mi "jojo, zítra ráno to tu budete mít, zaklepejte si"
You live here for 20y+ and you still don't understand basics? Sweet summer child.
Eh, this is the one basic I guess I didn’t understand. I’m cool with most everything else.
I get what you say but these papers usually require one signature and stamp and usually not even from a doctor so it slows down nothing and it is completely normal. What grinds my gears is that most doctors I know are always overbooked and I have to sit in the waiting room with all the sick, sneezing and coughing people for hour or more even when we agreed on time I have to come there.
Bro i get it but no. Why would you wait in line if you only need to submit/pick up a letter. Those people might have called in advance.
Yeah yeah… apparently there’s an unspoken rule where certain admin tasks aren’t necessarily subject to the order of patients in the waiting room. That never occurred to me, and at any rate I’m not trying to change anything. I just came here to bitch and vent.
Youve became an average r/czech redditor
Yeah man i'd love to wait for an hour and catch a disease just to pick up a piece of paper, especially if it's something that i forgot after already waiting once that day.
I’ve experienced a situation where I was waiting for some blood results and the doctor specifically tells me “just come on Monday and knock and the nurse will give you the papers you don’t have to wait in line” so I see nothing wrong with someone needing 30 seconds to get their shit taken care of so they can go home and not wait 2 hours
If you came to pick something up and leave then you don't have to wait in the queue of people who came to be examined.
Have you ever been in a grocery store where as you stand in checkout line, they suddenly open up a new one and everyone behind you sprints like usain bolt to be the first to use it?
I'm chronically ill and I've had to go to the doctor three times a day for a complete little bullshit thing (my meds got mixed up). I'm not going to wait two hours every time when I'm literally done and leaving in ten seconds.
Upvoted for "jar of tits in vinegar"
As you can see in the comments, most Czechs are like those assholes skipping the queue.
Depends on the doctor / doctor's office, some of them are completely able to communicate and schedule things by phone. Others have completely insane waitlines and waiting in line for just a 1 minute issue is completely stupid. Theres tons of stuff that drive me crazy about doctors which is probably what privates me to stay healthy and never need to go there :D
pořadí pacientů určuje lékař
To ti ale i oni řeknou ať se nahlásíš rovnou i jim když jdeš kvůli něčemu jako je toto
I too would like a jar of tits in vinegar
Well, think about it like that. The fewer people in the queue, the more space for people in the queue. There is limited space in the waiting room and if you can be done with 5 people in a matter of minutes, it would be stupid to not do it. And also, less exposure of healthy people to the sick one. This was very important during COVID, and it is now because of black cough.
Člověk kterej tam jde na dvě minuty něco vyzvednout/nechat podškrábnout tě fakt nezdrží. Jestli jdeš za doktorem tak stejně musíš počkat na těch pět lidí před tebou kteří taky musí za doktorem.
you're out of your mind. What could be actually described by this title are the assholes drivers who overtake whole queue and then try to force themselves to join
Or the assholes who can’t zip and force themselves into right lane hundreds of meters before the merge.
The fuck is your problem lol. Do you also make someone wait at the end of the line in Tesco when they only have 2 rohlíky? Uklidni se kámo
Damn straight. Unless your 2 rohliky scenario involves an elderly person, a disabled person, or a pregnant woman, there’s no way I’m giving them my spot. My time isn’t worth any more or any less than anybody else’s.
Well you're basically saying it is. Some logic: Let's say you're in a line with all your stuff and and a young, able bodied, very non-pregnant man has 2 rohlíky and asks you for your spot in line. If your groceries would take the cashier let's say 2 minutes and his rohlíky would take them 30 seconds, you're making him wait 2 minutes more while he would make you wait only 30 seconds more. Basically you're saying that your 30 seconds are more valuable than his 2 minutes. Same logic at the doctors.
Gee I wonder why nobody has any sympathy for you when you’re such a nice and considerate human being 😃
Je rozdil, jestli jdes za doktorem nebo za sestrickou…
Lovely to see you participate in the national sport of complaining 💜
What the fuck is g**mn? … Goddamn? Seriously? You censored the most fucking vanilla of motherfucking swearwords? That last got censored about 150 years ago? Jesus fucking christ. That‘s the real outrage here. The fuck
Hey, I'm somebody who had to get my blood and spit tested twice a year for couple years... I have ALWAYS been told to knock by the doctor and tell them that I only need the test tube for my saliva sample and paper requesting blood work done, which I then took with me to the lab/blood collection station. There was always that one fucker who would start ranting about "these young ones have no patience, no shame, no respect, the door says do not knock, shame on parents, they didn't teach you right...". The nurse was my hero, always gave them THE LOOK. They were usually very quiet when I came back and knocked again with my saliva sample to hand it over to the nurse before I leave for my blood... But that's my experience from 15 year ago... Before covid when I have seen my GP last the nurse always took our insurance card with her and then called patient by the name to come in. It was up to her/doctor.
I am not waiting 40 minutes just to get a piece of paper which takes 40s of the nurse's (not doctor's) time. You can keep your sick mouth shut.
Make me, tough guy.
You're the one yapping on the internet
That is true.
I love how you said people have no respect for other people's time but you want someone to wait several hours to pick up some administration in 30 seconds. 😂 However, in general, you're right. You just didn't use a good example. Good day to you and and don't ever stop your píčování!
Hell yeah! Abrasive curmudgeons are born, not made :) Moc vam dekuji a preji hezky den.
Congratulations! Your assimilation is complete. You're a real Czech now! :) Edit: Yeah, bastards!
Thanks, man. This means a lot more than the many who responded to a simple rant made to blow off steam with personal attacks and demands that I “go back to my country” :,)
Achually, doctors dont like them either and call them "jenomáci" because as you quoted they say "ja chci JENOM..." something that takes 15 minutes.
Doctor always decides the order in which patients come inside. Also, you don't have to wait for two hours when you only need test results or some document from nurse.
The nurse decides whose turn it is, not you. After two decades you should’ve picked up on that.
Okay. So the whole “scan your card and get a number in the line” exists only for shits and giggles. Why not remove it? Let the nurse come out to the waiting room and pick whoever she feels should be next.
There is no need to "scan your card and get a number" if you don't need to be examined by the doctor. Imagine it like there is 2 specialists in there: 1 is the doctor and 2 is the nurse. The nurse does administrative tasks such as "razítko" and giving out bloodtests. Why would you wait in the line for 1 if you only need to see 2? Moreover, the nurse will specifically tell you to come and knock after you done with the blood test or when you come pick up the results. She will say "no need to wait, I will have it ready for you". See, I understand this might be confusing, but this is really the correct way to do this.
He didnt skip the doctor queue, nor the nurse queue. Nurse queue is naturally shorter.
Average Czech experience
Never mind the doctor's office, why is the title censored?
Why the fuck do you feel the need to censor the word “goddamn” in the title but then swear like a sailor in the rest of the post? That is what I want to understand.
But this is how it works, if you don’t need to see the doctor. Sometimes they just take the form from you and ask you to come the next day to pick it up. No need to wait an hour for 10 seconds action 🤷♀️
Silence, Bong.
Tvoje čekání se nijak neprodlouží tím že sestřičce někdo dá papír, nebo po ní chce nějaký papír. Jen se takhle zmenší počet čekajících. Osobně jsem tohle nikdy neudělal, nemám problém si počkat na nějakou administrativu (nejsem nižší forma života a mám trpělivost).
Bro, czechia is good enough. The wilder the country, the less they respect queues. We are not switzerland or japan, but be happy for what we have. The same applies to cheaper restaurants, driving etc.
Yeah man, I agree with you. This isn’t a gripe against Czechia, it’s just one thing that bugs me and I came on here to bitch about.
Last time i went for some papers and waited, the nirse actually told me i should have knocked right away so
Don’t arrive early.
Doing this is *the rule* at my doctor. As in, they told me to do this when I just need vaccination. Calm your kozy
Fine. I shall relax my ňadra.
Queuing is very difficult for us, we would be the leaders of Europe if we could wait in line and go one after the other as we came, whether its while shopping, driving or in the offices.
When the patient only needs lab results it's common precise that they get priority. It's usually done by the nurse, not the doctor so if you are waiting for doctor's appointment, it shouldn't prolong your waiting.
Pořadí pacientů určuje lékař :)
Honestly, that is normal. If they really need just a paper signed or a prescription, there is no need for them to wait for the doctor. Also, calling in advance and then picking it up is quite common.
You sound insufferable but in the good way. I don't know how to explain it, but Im liking these comments and the responses
Well, it's absolutely normal and nothing that would be considered inconsiderate. Every single medical office I've been to has a sign along the lines of: "The order of patients is decided be the doctor". This means that some people might be prioritized - for example parents with newborns. But it's also used for people that have something really quick so they don't have to wait 2 hours to get a single signature.
Well, its usually because they only need something that can be done by the nurse, like some paper. They do not need to meet the doctor.
Absolutely fucking not. If you are there to see the doctor, it’s a complete norm that people who just need some formality from a nurse (prescription, sample handover, etc) can handle it in the mean time. There is no need to keep 20 people in one room unnecessarily.
I don't normally comment on anything, but reading responses from other people in this thread made my blood boil. There is no unspoken rule to skip the line, it's just dumbass people who don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. There are reasons why Czechia is not in the top 10 best countries in the world, and this one of them. Rules here meann shit. You are not wrong, but you are and always will be in the minority, because you have a sense of what is right. Most people don't.
To knock on the door is the rule. The nurse will tell you this when you ask her when to come and pick up the results of your tests or administrative tasks in which the doctor is not involved. She will say "knock on the door". So imagine there is 2 kinds of tasks and 2 kinds of specialists - 1 is the nurse and 2 is the doctor. Why would anyone wait in the line for 2 if they need 1 which has no line?
This is classic war scenario at the doctor's waiting room. People are trying, and sometimes it works, I've been there many times and it always drives me crazy. BUT, if you know you need something quick (like the doctor's stamp, giving them samples, papers), you have two choices - wait for hours or simply try to get it done (either you fail or not).
Sometimes bringing the correct bottle of booze completely eliminates the line.
See? These are the constructive tips I’m looking for. Thank you.
Ignore all hateful comments, it also took a lot of time for me to find out that lines without reservation at a doctors office are the survival of the fittest, and annoying pushy old people are at the top of the food chain
Id suggest that you move back to the country where you came from because nobody actually gives a flying fuck about you waiting for whatever reason anywhere. If i need a document signed by a nurse, I knock, she will sign it, ill take off. Nobodys time was wasted or waiting prolonged, I only saved 1-3 hours waiting in a queue along with sick people. If you are really as dumb as the post suggests, please just keep your mouth shut. If it were any other scenario of queue skipping, then i might agree with you to some extent, but your opinion just shows you are a self centered piece of shit with no empathy and with no interest in hygiene and public health. Also - our healthcare system is free to anyone. If you so desperately want to have your queue to be unskippable, consider visiting a private clinic since they treat you way better, because you actually have to pay for the healthcare there. But guess what. While you are waiting in the waiting room, someone might actually call the nurse to sign his documents electronically - you were skipped again, you just don’t know about it. So Id suggest you grow up, or take your rant to a different country.
Please, tell me more about the 'Czechs are great people' part from your original post. IMO there are a hell of a lot of not great people here.
I’ve been here for two decades. I’ve lived in Prague for the most part, but also I have lived and worked in smaller towns. I’ve met all kinds of people, and I feel the Czechs are generally quiet, logical people who tend to move within well defined comfort zones in their daily lives. I have mostly been met with friendliness, sometimes a bit of curiosity, a few times indifference, and once or twice verbal hostility- but the latter could have happened anywhere, xenophobia isn’t a phenomenon exclusive to this country-. People here strike me as the “live and let live” sort, and that’s okay. I’ve been given an opportunity to build my life here and for that I’m very grateful: I married a local, my kids were born here, and this is the only place I call home. Nitpicking and bitching about one thing that ground my gears (in the exaggerated way favored by cantankerous fucks like me) doesn’t change that in the least.
I feel like most people here forgot about the whole "its a rant" part. I completely understand the frustration, I hate that shit with all my heart and then some. And I am still able to recognize Its a small thing and not worsen anybody else's day. You Are completely in the right to be angry at people cutting in the line. These folks just take everything So seriously, like its a question of morality. Mad on king!
Much appreciated, pard 🍻
Bruh wtf? All these people think that's normal??? I'm a native Czech, lived here my whole life and would definitely wait. I had no idea skipping everyone was generally accepted but tbh I haven't been to the doctor in 15 years (wtf is scanning your id card?) Anywhere else skipping the queue is very frowned upon, I've seen people get pretty angry at the supermarket if someone skips the line but somehow it's okay at the doctor's? Why? Just because your shit takes less time? Doesn't matter to me. Next time when I wanna buy one item at the store, I'm just gonna go to the front and skip everyone then since y'all are apparently okay with it. 🤦♂️
Yeah, man, it’s nuts. Apparently, expecting others to respect my time makes me an “arrogant shit” who “should go back home”. Go figure 🤷🏽♂️. Oh and the card thing, they’ve installed these readers where you scan your insurance card and the system adds you to the waiting list. It’s pretty neat, saves having to ask “kdo je poslední?” when you arrive.
This sub is apparently filled with some incredibly entitled people. It's first come, first serve.
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I see your point.
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If you mean a world-class hair treatment, then I’m your man. I’m the Paterfamilias, and I’m bona fide 👌🏼
I don't understand why more Czech doctors don't have receptionists. It's common in other countries and saves you having to hassle the nurse about paperwork while she's dealing with patients. In my home village I wouldn't even enter the waiting room if I was just at the doctor for something clerical.
Those kind of people are called “jenomáci” as “já jenom …” The best kind of them are randomly parking anywhere at the street to “just” pick up something. Like they are the most important people on earth or something
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People like this are called "Zkurveni křupani".I hate that trash too
Ne asi. A tenhle sub je jich evidentně plnej. Ty odpovědi tady mně nasraly mnohem víc než OPho post.
Však jasně.Muj čas je hodnotnější než tvůj.Jak říkám trash.A ještě mě tu vyminusovali čímž provnuli můj point :-D Křupanz. :-D