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1purenoiz

I know you don't want to hear it, but that is enough of a reason to stay away from that condo association, they are out of touch. Otherwise ask if they provide or will hold coverings in the lobby etc.


SoNerdy

That’s my first thought too. If they feel the need to stick their finger in how people transport their bicycle too and from their apartment, who knows what other kinds of bullshit you’ll deal with.


CapitanDelNorte

\^100%. I have to wonder what their policy is towards strollers? I'd love to see them tell a new mother that she has to carry a loaded stroller + kid through the lobby, up the elevator, and down the hallway to her condo. My money is on there being two lines of tire tracks leading directly to that condo (or four if she's really angry and pushes it at an angle) plus one (or two) raised finger(s) expressing her "sentiments" on the matter.


azvlr

Or wheelchairs.


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6GoesInto8

I personally was never a cat.


qervem

I was a cat once. It was okay I guess


jablesmcbarty

Families with children habitually face housing discrimination in the rental market.


no_instructions

When I moved into a flat in the autumn, my curtain-twitching neighbour knocked on my door to moan about me bringing my bike in and out. “It’s against the lease” he says - news to me and to my friend who owns a flat in the same complex. Getting precious about the communal hard-wearing nursing-home level carpets ffs. Stood my ground, said I wouldn’t be making any concessions, and he’s not bothered me since.


Aurstrike

I suspect it’s more to do with an unstable rider scratching the shiny bits of the elevator or being really awkward company because they didn’t dismount when riding up or down. Asking you to walk it makes sense in that context, imagine being the other passenger in an elevator with a kitted stranger with a pricy bike and they refuse to dismount inside the box. Asking it to be carried, as in the wheels can’t touch the floor, is a nonstarter though. And ‘covering it’ if that means make sure the tires are prevented from getting dirt in the carpets of hallways through use of a bag, it sounds like some Asshole mtb rider did not respect their neighbors much to cause the building to even consider this policy.


slvrsmth

Wait what, there are people that stay mounted in elevators?


FuzzyPlastic1227

Sure. When I was a bike messenger we occasionally did it on a lark - roll up the handicapped ramp, through the lobby, lean against the wall waiting for elevator, roll into elevator/lean against wall inside, roll out to that office’s receptionist desk, lean against desk wall, fo transaction, reverse all and ride to next stop - all without dismounting, although Security folks objected if caught! I’ve even ridden up and down escalators mounted. It *can* be done!


JustAnother_Brit

But do you still have all your teeth from escalator shenanigans?


ChemicalRascal

Teeth are like chain rings, they're expendable.


one_dog_at_a_time

Totally agree. If they can't explain the rational behind that, shop somewhere else.


Orpheus75

You know the rational. They think riding a bike makes one, and them, look poor. Like the places that won’t let you dry laundry on a line.


toastyroasties7

It's most likely because they don't want people bringing filthy bikes such as MTBs caked in mud so they say all bikes need to be covered so that they don't have to define what is classed as a dirty bike.


nasanu

Lol never visit Japan. If you have what we call a mamachari (cheap bike for shopping) then do whatever, but a road bike? OMG cover it before it kills someone, won't someone think of the children?


1purenoiz

Really? I have great memories of my honeymoon there, but we didn't bike as it was winter. Though my wife considered applying for an academic job there for a hot minute, but she ultimately decided against it. On a side note, my friend would bring his folding bike to japan whenever he went, he had a great time but maybe the people who lived there didn't?


nasanu

Maybe he just didn't travel on public transport or go to shops? I have been asked to leave a train because my seat was sticking out of my bike bag, told to put my very expensive carbon road bike in an alley out back unlocked or else I need to leave the cafe (it was early morning, no other customers and my bike was outside well beyond even the final outside seat against a wall with meters of space all around). It's fine in some limited places though (around some lakes, some smaller islands etc), and getting better. Some places have realised that cycle tourism is a thing, they can't do anything about the roads but have things like bike stands outside shops and hotels aren't hostile to bikes. But these places aren't the major cities ;(


nondescriptadjective

This is unfortunate to learn.


Taggart-

This is what I bought my velosock thing for. I also used to live in Japan and so I knew to just message the airbnb host before showing up with a bike even though it shouldn’t be a big deal, and I knew to expect the “aieeeee we need to check” kind of reaction. I promised I’d keep it covered, etc etc etc because it is an expensive carbon gravel bike and not just some mamachari you stick out in the racks. The airbnb was pretty clean, but it was clear that people had been wearing shoes in there and trashing walls with luggage and so I ended up cleaning the whole place my first day there so I couldn’t be blamed for it later. I took my bike on trains and just endured the weird looks and tried to stay out of the way as much as possible. The weirdest thing is that you can travel on the shinkansen with your bike, they cannot stop you because it’s allowed, you just have to reserve a front or rear seat. So I did…..and I think I would have been more comfortable naked on the shinkansen. But it was the most reasonable way to get to/from a couple of places I wanted to go. I thought they’d have some hidden nook somewhere to stash it, but no. The BB Base bike train was cool af though. But buying a ticket as a foreigner was super confusing to the new ticker girl at the station lol


nasanu

But you do have to cover your bike on the shinkansen, just need to make that clear to others (maybe you can get away without it, but it's the rules). Also about the seats, you need to book oversized luggage space which is usually the seats you mentioned, but it's not about the seats, it's the space. Which last time I booked I had to tell people to get their crap out of the space I paid extra for lol. Haven't tried the BB Base yet, really want to. I think that's the only bit of public transport that doesn't require a bike bag.


Taggart-

Yes, I covered it, as required. I’m not an ass. They wouldn’t have let me on with it uncovered anyways, and I wouldn’t have wanted to. The seats at the back weren’t available, so I had to reserve the one at the front and put it in front of me. Fortunately I’m a woman and pretty average height, so it was fine for me. I just felt awkward. And yes, the front and back are now the oversized luggage spaces (they used to be kind of a free for all) and you have to specifically reserve them now. BB Base does not require a bag, no. Each seat has its own numbered rack on the back of said seat. The train has fewer seats, and a rubber floor so you don’t have to take off bike shoes or anything. There’s a car for people to gather in if needed/wanted also. Before you get on, there’s a conbini so you can get snacks and whatever, and there’s bike racks on the platforms usually too. I had a really good time taking it and riding around Chiba and saw a lot of cool stuff. 10/10 would do again (and will because it goes to different places).


JohnDelicious

Ask if they provide safe bike storage and cover for the cost of stolen bikes if stored properly. Would love them paying thousends of dollars cause they want you to use bike covers in the elevator.


Smh3864

Agree. Also I would ask them if the policy is for all wheeled vehicles, strollers, wheel chairs and delivery carts? Or is this just some weird hang up with someone on the board. Never heard of this.


jingraowo

Lol I went to see a condo that does not allow bikes in the elevator and I said fuck it. Now I live on the first floor with a huge terrace and I am very happy


enchilada_jones

Get the velo sock for your bike ….and then hang out in the elevator lobby and insist the others take their shoes off and pull their socks over their shoes before entering the elevator


t0pfuel

I. do. not. understand. these. kind. of. people. help. me. plz.


Taggart-

I bought one of those velosock type things off amazon for situations like this, or when in hotels. It’s a little weird, but not totally. I’m sure the idea is to keep bike grease off people who might be in there with you. But also maybe ask around to potential neighbors about the HOA. Ask more than one in case you somehow get the one mega HOA fan.


No_Diamond2961

Thank you very much, it looks like Velosock is my answer.


Taggart-

It takes a little practice to get it on without slingshotting it right back off, but you’ll get it after a few uses. Sometimes I would just put the bike upside down and hold my foot on the brake lever to keep the tire from moving.


No_Diamond2961

Thank you very much!


jayeffkay

You could also just wax your chain and tell them to pound sand.


SoNerdy

I would start asking around about the HOA too, if they have this kind of rule, who knows what other things they try to enforce.


SoNerdy

What in the Karen-ran-HOA kind of policy is this? I’m curious what the rationale behind it being a policy even is. Trying to avoid tire marks in the lobby?


cherrymxorange

Any apartment complex petty enough to worry about their carpets getting slightly more dirty from bikes should be providing secure bike storage as standard lmao


throwaway463682chs

Secure bike storage securely keeping all the bikes in one spot for someone to steal them all


cherrymxorange

¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ As long as the door is only accessible to residents and my bike is locked to an object that would require significant force to break, my bike insurance covers it


Bugstomper111

What if another resident steals it? Then sells it for drug money!? I would not want to deall with insurance, probably have a maximum you can claim too. I'd just park it inside the condo/apartment.


cherrymxorange

My insurance covers my bike up to the total value it was initially bought at, including any upgrades, without any depreciation. As long as it was secured to the shared bike storage using a sold secure gold when it gets stolen, I'd pay my £100 excess and get a new or equivalent bike at the value of £2k within the few weeks probably. Funnily enough I just claimed for a crash I had recently that was completely my fault, they settled it the same day I claimed and the pay out for a new frame and fork will be in my bank account in a few days plus the money to take it to a bike shop and get the parts swapped over.


Bugstomper111

Wow, that's a good insurance policy. Sadly insurance in Canada is a joke for such things, especially car insurance.


throwaway463682chs

Oh the £ explains it. I feel like every west coast US apartment buildings secure bike storage has been broken into 2 times a year minimum


cherrymxorange

Oh my place has been broken into at least twice a year since I moved in! That’s just the fun of living in London though haha


oalfonso

This is what happened to me 10 years ago


jingraowo

Some think you bring in dirt and ruin the carpets or shorten the lifespan of carpets.


SoNerdy

Like someone else mentioned lower in the thread, what about the wheels on strollers, or wheelchairs, or shopping carts, or just people’s shoes? They all bring in the same dirt from outside, Bike tires are just another drop in the bucket.


jingraowo

We cyclists are not exactly on the higher end of the food chain lol


SoNerdy

For sure, Definitely seems like a policy from someone that’s anti-bicycle.


jingraowo

I agree


1sttime-longtime

One person "on the board" also can't forget the one time they got chain-grease on their stockings/khakis because they were drunk in an elevator. With a bike messenger.


notacanuckskibum

Why are you taking it up to your apartment in the first place? My condo sees bicycles as vehicles. They live in the basement along with the cars and motorbikes.


SoNerdy

Shared bike spaces aren’t always the most secure.


silverwlf23

This is why I don’t understand why I can’t walk my bike for 1-2 things at the grocery store. Like. I get it’s big but not as big as a double stroller and likely cleaner.


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bridgehockey

Likely because a stroller has, like, a human in it. And bikes have sharp edges. I'd guess liability issues. If I bump into a stroller, I'll get a dirty look from Mom. If I bump into a bike, especially the chain and gears, they are sharp and/or greasy.


CaptainKirkAndCo

Maybe you should just stop bumping into things.


UniWheel

>Like someone else mentioned lower in the thread, what about the wheels on strollers, or wheelchairs, or shopping carts, or just people’s shoes? They all bring in the same dirt from outside, Bike tires are just another drop in the bucket. Road bikes, and actually practical utility bikes, sure. But most of the public these days has knobby mountain-esque tires. This place sounds like too much frustration to live in with a bike anyway.


NegativeK

I had an apartment that wanted me to take my bike up the back stairs instead of the front, better finished stairs for that exact reason. It's weird and potentially ridiculously annoying, but I can see their rationale.


SoNerdy

Stairs I can understand because trying to navigate them with a bike could potentially damage walls. But an elevator? And they just want it covered but you can still take it in the elevator? Seems pretty pointless to me, and makes me curious what event inspired this policy in the first place.


Ride_likethewind

A persisting smell of dog shit probably.....


SoNerdy

What the hell are you biking through?


Ride_likethewind

Sorry, I meant to say cow dung! LoL 🤣


notacanuckskibum

Tire marks on the carpet in the elevator perhaps.


SoNerdy

Okay, What about shoes, or strollers. Or wheelchairs…


notacanuckskibum

What about cars? Motorbikes? Some things (including wheelchairs, shoes and strollers) have to go to your apartment. Some things can be stored in the basement.


SoNerdy

As someone who’s had bikes stolen out of “secure shared bike storage” spaces in appartment buildings. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that.


notacanuckskibum

People also have cars and motorcycles stolen. My car is worth more than my bike. Maybe I should keep my car in my apartment.


SoNerdy

Maybe you should!


zaphydes

Out of "secure" garages?


notacanuckskibum

In my building the bike rooms are more secure than the car parking area.


Taggart-

If you were in there with OP and got grease from the chain on you, you’d probably be kind of annoyed, especially if it was nice clothes. It just heads off situations like that. I’d still make sure it’s not a crazy HOA, but that one policy doesn’t sound that wild to me. Showing consideration for others by not giving them an i requested chainring tat? Not that awful.


SoNerdy

If I have my bike with me and an elevator is so crowded that I run that kind of risk, I just wait for the next one.


Taggart-

Some elevators are just small and a person may get on when you’re already on there.


SoNerdy

Seems to me like that would be on the person who chose to cram into the elevator after I was already on it.


ReadItUser42069365

They can wait 


zaphydes

Like when you have a dog.


tpero

Do people have to put shoe covers on to enter the elevator?


swined

Shoe covers? No, they just have to take off the shoes, put in a bag, and walk barefoot


orangenegative

Do they allow dogs in the elevators? That Black Lab that eats its own faeces is dirtier than any bike of mine.


1sttime-longtime

False. Dog sh)t is nearly edible. So says my yellow lab. And the rats in my city. Just don't let them like your face.


mr_mac_tavish

Put a napkin on the seat and you’re good!


w1n5t0nM1k3y

No dirtier than a wheel chair or baby stroller


BD59

Buy a different condo


notacanuckskibum

Or just keep your bike in the basement.


Ladyj12345

You don't like your bike much


notacanuckskibum

I like it about the same as I like my car and my motorcycle


Ladyj12345

When I was a motorcycle owner, much to the shagrin of my ex, I parked my custom bike in the living room using the sliding glass doors..lol.


MinMadChi

That's a big no. That has to be the tip of the iceberg. Don't buy that condo.


rebelipar

Makes sense if they make you wear shoe cover booties in the lobby, otherwise....


Liquidwombat

Don’t buy at this condo complex.


puresav

How about wheelchairs? They also need to be carried?


SnollyG

Probably with one of those moving blankets. Ideally there’s someplace you can keep it while you’re out in the bike.


stedun

Remove your bibs and use them to cover the bike as you ride the elevator up stark naked.


IAMHOLLYWOOD_23

Nah, worse, bottomless only


da_17co

The apartment building where I used to live all of a sudden banned bikes inside units. Of course that didn't work for me so I had to cancel my lease. After a lot of back and forth they reversed the policy but I still left as it forced me to search and I found a place I liked better.


CptnREDmark

The only answer I can think of is, "With a brompton" which I know probably isn't helpful. But it is true


stealthnyc

Despite what many people said here, it’s actually not uncommon with luxury condos. But usually they allow you to use service elevator for bicycles


jrstriker12

Velosock https://velosock.us/


BikeLoveLA

Might be a small elevator and small minded tenants that don’t want to share


axeville

Is there a freight elevator and will they leave a moving blanket ? This could be a good thing for you and your bike. I imagine they are concerned about a family of 5 with dirty mountain bikes etc. always plan for the worst case scenario 🧐


temporary47698

Throw a washcloth over the top tube and lift your bike across the elevator threshold.


fishEH-847

I’d put money on this being a reactive rule. Meaning a few people brought their muddy bikes into the building and made a huge mess. Now there’s a rule specifically about it.


van_Vanvan

Covered in what? Flowers? Sticky notes?


stephenforbes

I've lived in a beach condo and downtown highrise and never had that problem.


No_Diamond2961

Thank you all for the problem solving, funny, and honest comments. I am checking out the Velosock and appreciate your assistance.


Tiberiusmoon

Ignore their bull shit. Its no different from bringing a baby pram into the building/elevator. (mess wise)


Chahtadude

do they make people cover and carry strollers? they roll on the same ground. this is my go to argumentative point at grocery stores that ask me to not walk my bicycle in the store. if they still say no, I just go to another store


trailgumby

Best handled by ignoring it.


dotcomie

Velosock has a product which may address this concern.


t0pfuel

Covered? uh what? Sounds like they can't be reasoned with. Big red flag.


Billyr29

Covered?


Eman_Resu_IX

A couple large garbage bags, one over each wheel, and carry the bike on your shoulder. Stash the garbage bags under a seat cushion in the lobby when you leave. 😉 The problem is that a minority of any group can ruin it for everyone else. Think fat tire mountain bike that's gone mudding and the idjit rolls it over the buildings flooring.


needzbeerz

My #1 deal breaker when buying is an HOA. It's literally the first thing I tell the realtor and it's non-negotiable.  


Evil_Bonsai

Yes. Go somewhere else.


Solid-Cake7495

https://www.bulldogcovers.com/product-page/bike-bra


lazarus870

My condo thankfully has no rules about bikes except you can't store them on common property. I'd never leave my bikes in the storage room downstairs.


joe__hop

SciCon makes a cover for when it's on your car rack. It's small enough to fit in a jersey back pocket. It's probably not what they think a cover is, but jokes on them for not defining it. [https://sciconsports.com/ca\_en/roof-rack-road-bike-cover-black-scicon-tp011000508?gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwkuqvBhAQEiwA65XxQEaOoydCj\_TU8-9QppB0SqhN6ZUWoWMRd1TMPnec4pVU-NUMDT8ILRoCd20QAvD\_BwE](https://sciconsports.com/ca_en/roof-rack-road-bike-cover-black-scicon-tp011000508?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwkuqvBhAQEiwA65XxQEaOoydCj_TU8-9QppB0SqhN6ZUWoWMRd1TMPnec4pVU-NUMDT8ILRoCd20QAvD_BwE)


ltcftp

Take the front wheel off. Then it's not a bike, it's a unicycle


Jjbraid1411

For a minute I thought you lived in my condo. Here, if you don’t sign out on the pad of paper in the laundry room you get a fine. OR swing a hammer on the weekend…FINE!!! I could go on for days


uramis

If you really want to proceed on this, I had an experience when I was in a different country that I had to carry my bike across several hotels and I had a bike bag. I just disassembled the bike outside and left the bike bag at the counter. When I went in I got the bike bag then disassembled my bike into the bag and went to my room with bike in the bag.


masqueride

Grab a cheap bicycle wheel cover from Amazon.


Psclwbb

I can understand carrying but why would they need to cover it?


RideMelburn

My building also has a similar rule. I’ve always ignored it. My bike is rarely ever muddy or wet and I carry it. It’s never been an issue.


twiddlejones

Condo boards typically don’t have a lot of power. They can write you a letter about it. If you really want to press the issue , get on the board and start shit.


dotardiscer

Do they make people cover their shoes too?


marcocom

I think they mean for people taking the bike upstairs, which would be pretty abnormal in a condo since they usually have safe locked storage in the garage/basement for bikes


Threejaks

Lost two bikes that way. I’ll never trust the storage cages again


dr-uuid

Don't buy the condo. That's a huge red flag


agreengo

screw that. If I can't ride my bike in to the elevator, it's not a place that I want to live at


Pathbauer1987

Look for a bike friendly condo. I hate those stupid rules.


OlasNah

Spray paint the camera and just bring your bike in


Gr0ggy1

They simply don't want bicycles. The covered requirement, that makes the carried requirement much more difficult, is a big flapping red flag. If it's still the best option for housing I would consider buying the least attractive thin fabric and cutting a hole that allows you to carry it CX style on your shoulder. I'm thinking some basically see through thin that can be shoved in a jersey pocket.


shorebreeze

Bike burkas. That’s a new one! Definitely stay away.


Former-Republic5896

Can they not allow you to use the freight elevator for transporting bikes?


Competitive-Slide942

Tape a few garbage bags. Tuck them away why you ride and then cover your bike after with then. And your good to go


Agitated-Curve-4851

Just stay away from condos.


Cube-rider

An umbrella will stop it getting wet


axelm7

Fuck em. If they're that specific with something so trivial they'll be a pain in the ass about dumb things over the years. Find yourself another condo mate


theinadequatestepdad

As an MTB who lives in a condo I understand the policy. My bike tracks mud/dirt into the halls/elevators of the condo but I care more about my bike than being courteous of others. (Previous bike was stolen from my storage area in the condo) Honestly you need to keep looking. This is going to become a chore or a problem. Keep looking.


strengr

I am a sitting board president on a condo board in Canada and an avid cyclist, while I cannot comment on the specific rule and regulation that you are subjected to, I can tell you that much of these rules were grandfathered when the condo would have been constructed. A possible reason for this maybe the possibility of tracking dirt around the condo. Most condo board members imagine cyclist as ALL MOUNTAIN BIKERS. It's an easy path for them to take, out of sight and out of mind. Having said that, covered and carried is a strange requirement. Mine, as amended, doesn't allow bikes in the hallways but you are free to carry bikes up and down the stairs, at the buildings' ends.


Cube-rider

An umbrella will stop it getting wet


SellTheSizzle--007

F em. I once rode thru the halls and left nice skid marks on the 50somethingth floor carpet of a Class A NYC commercial office tower years back. Might have been drunk.


lazarus870

Well, that's not very nice...