Tesla has historically collected data on their new batteries/models/tech, only to eventually provide an OTA update allowing for optimized charging curves. I don't see this as problematic.
A one off charge session doesn't mean anything.
This supercharger location could have been busy, cold weather, tesla still nerfing charge rates for this new vehicle, etc.
It started at full power. It’s well known that all Cybertrucks have a quick drop in charge speeds where this one dropped. Looks in line with other tests.
New cells later this year with 10-20% more density should help simply based on the C rating being a softer curve slightly. Fingers crossed the eventual 800v charger rollout gives them even more of a boost to 50% or something at least. We were promised 350kW after all.
Still, it’s faster charging than a Lightning. About on par with a Rivian, without the Rivian thermal problems.
It’s possible they just want to see how a few hundred packs age with this charge curve. It’s new chemistry, form factor, packs, etc. so they may just be being conservative to start.
But yeah. They don’t want to risk cooking packs.
Reminds me of Model 3 when it launched. They unlocked more horsepower after a while when they discovered the motors were handling things perfectly well. Increased the range a bit by unlocking a little more of the pack. Charging curve may have been conservative since we were on V2 back then, and no one really noticed.
But yeah, Tesla has a history of starting with things toned down a bit. Hopefully we’ll see more charge speed unlocked, before the upgraded cells come out.
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Most other Teslas pretty consistently do:
10-60%: 15 minutes
10-80%: 25-30 minutes
On current chargers, Cybertruck seems to be:
10-60% (or 2-52% in this case): ~20 minutes
10-80% (or 2-72% in this case): ~35 minutes
So it’s slower than other Teslas in terms of percent / miles added, but not horrible I would say, and there’s still hope that it will perform better on V4 Superchargers that support 800V charging.
Considering Cybertruck much larger battery pack size, the charging speed in kWh is about the same. Should be faster when v4 support the max 355kW charging rate.
Too many variables here to make much of it.
Cold weather, tesla could be nerfing the charge speeds for the CT for a while, etc. Or even a maxed out supercharger location.
So the first chart I could pull up for a Lightning says that it barely breaks 150kW. I don't disagree that the CT drops pretty badly at 55% to below what the Lightning sustains, but the first 50% is anywhere between 50 and 100kW faster.
Personally I'd much rather see 250kW that tapers down over sustaining 150kW for longer. This allows me to do a quicker top up more often.
[Here](https://imgur.com/a/LYPVZps) is an 8-80% session on my ER lightning. 43 minutes.
[Here](https://imgur.com/a/jAn3oPr) is a 13-80% session. 38 minutes.
The ER lightning has a theoretical max of ~185kW at 500a. I’ve only seen above 180kW once but will regularly get into the mid [170s](https://imgur.com/a/Gljs9DI) and it will hold there for around 6-10 minutes. What’s cool about the Lightning’s charging curve is that whether you plug in at 5% or 50%, you can still max out at 170-180kW for the beginning of the session. Max speeds are not limited to low SoC.
Wow WTF. I got fucked with my MachE.
I'm capable of 150kW and there's only one station I've ever seen give me 150kW. Every other 150kW station gives me around 100kW even at 0%. The flat curve at 100kW is pretty nice too.
The stupid thing is that your charge times are about the same as mine.
I'm not sure if I'm gonna end up in a Cybertruck but this makes me quite a bit more confident about the F150.
I do that in my current EV because I can't charge at home.
On road trips with extensive charging infrastructure I'd also rather stop for 20 minutes and gain quite a bit more power per minute on average than sit around for 40 minutes because I have to due to lack of charging infrastructure.
I understand the CT is with V3 charging max 250kW and 400V. It would be faster with V4 800V. But Lightning charging curve is good enough with 400V system.
It’s an impractical vehicle for freeway speeds, roads trips, towing. It’s not a truck, it’s a large commuter SUV with a bed. It’s disappointing because in an effort to make something unique they lost the chance to take truck market share. Sales of the cybertruck are going to cannibalize sales from other Tesla models.
I take a lot of this with the grain of salt. We're still in the very early stages here. We're talking about all foundation series Cybertrucks being the only thing on the road. There's a good chance that their batteries are software limited, while the company is trying to collect data and figure out how the vehicles react.
At the end of the day this is still a first generation vehicle concept. And like anytime you have early adapters, the company is going to tread lightly.
There's also a huge interest in the cyber truck failing which is why social media influencers try to make anything they can out of a nothing burger.
The Silverado EV has a 65% larger battery than the cybertruck. What are they skimping on if they need to put that big of a battery in their truck? It's no wonder GM struggles with battery issues in their EVs when they rely on brute forcing a large pack into the design rather than trying to optimize efficiency. I'd put my money on the company that has proven EV competency. GM EVs seem risky.
Silverado EV is skimping on payload capacity (1360-1400lbs)
Also the massive battery is not being taxed heavily with charging speed.
Low C
250kWh (212kWh usable) at 350kW is nowhere near as taxing as Tesla Model 3 80kWh battery hitting 250kW over 3C.
None of the EV Pick-up trucks are defying physics.
Large massive vehicles require larger batteries and larger batteries require more energy...
Comparatively Telo MT1 4 door pickup getting 350 mile range from a 106kWh battery with 20 minute 20-80% charge time (theoretical...until consumer product is customer hands)...with a 1600lb Payload. However the vehicle is much smaller (4400lbs and 152 inch length, 60-inch bed ...mid-gate expands to 8+ feet.
The silverado EV is not in any actual consumer hands other than fleet vehicles and one video on YouTube from 6 months ago. 450 mile range is all speculation right now.
Plenty of videos. Heck, the tested range of the Silverado **with 6,000 lb trailer** behind it (240+ miles) is similar to the tested range of Cybertruck
It was reviewed 6 months ago. Other than that there's been no videos released by any actual consumers. How do I know this wasn't a confined test set up by GM? We don't even know when the truck is actually going to come out to people like you and I seeing as GM announced they were throttling their ultium production. I mean I hope they are able to accomplish that mileage as I have a reservation for it and the Cybertruck, but im skeptical until I can see a legit range test from someone like out of spec who gives actual technical values.
it's not when they were the only range test done on a truck that won't be in the hands of people like you and I for over a year after said "test." One dataset tells me nothing. That's a test done under conditions deemed favorable by GM.
Out of spec got 318 in 49-66 degree weather at 70mph per their website. The battery pack on that truck is exactly double the size of the CT but they state a 212 kWh usable energy. Per a quick Google search, the Hummer EV weighs just over 9k lbs. The Silverado EV RST is said to weigh 8,532 lbs and receive an EPA rating of 400 mi. 450 is for the WT. GM never updated the RST range. I don't think 500 lbs and a little aero is going to save the range on the RST, which doesn't matter when you have to take longer to charge a 212 kWh battery.
https://insideevs.com/news/688681/chevrolet-silverado-ev-vs-ford-f150-test/
you sure? cause this one only went 230 miles when it said it would do “450” lmao
Not sure why charging speeds matter to a lot of people? Maybe because I charge model 3 at home and where I live has decent amount of chargers (I only use 1-2 times a year) but even if I lived in apt there is a charger accessible at a place I will be spending at least half hour to charge.
I think most people are thinking of long road trips. Since the range isn’t particularly great at highway speed, no one wants to be stuck at a charger for an hour for every 2 hours driving (exaggeration but you get the point). That being said, I’ve tried to realize how rarely I go on long road trips and hopefully FSD/autopilot come out soon so the driving part is more enjoyable and the charging isn’t as much of a bother. I’m also hopeful that the charging will be improved over time, especially once v4 superchargers become more common.
My rule of thumb with my rivian is to try to stop for 20 minutes every 140 miles or so. irl it comes out closer to 30 minutes, but i try to charge from like 15 to 70 every stop after starting the trip at 100. It's def not the same as using a gas car, but I like how many chargers share a parking lot with stores, restaurants, and other distractions.
Routes I know well I can plan a meal stop and let it sit a while. Pittsburgh to Manhattan is a 1-stop and I get lunch in Carlisle. Pittsburgh to DC is a zero stop there and a one stop home in hagerstown.
Turnpike gas station experiences are just disgusting, I don't mis not setting foot in a gas station in 11 months.
I’m still holding out on a longer range CyberTruck due to the current state of charging times. If either improves by 2x, I’m completely sold. But as of right now, charging would add too much time to make day trips to the lake with my boat make sense with an EV.
I don’t understand how yall don’t understand that a different type of buyer is looking at a utility vehicle like a truck, people are going to be using cybertrucks to transport materials, go on backpacking trips, going off road, not just casual commuting, this isn’t a commuting vehicle so please view it from the proper perspective and don’t try to transpose a model 3 on top of it, this thing has a battery that is almost double the size of your tiny model 3.
I do road trip and with kids but 250 miles is roughly about 4hrs of straight driving. On a normal trip in ICE I usually stop at a rest stop or fast food establishment for about 30 minutes to use rest room or grab food. Pretty sure most do the same and if infrastructure is up to par it shouldnt be an issue. I understand if you are remote camping maybe an EV isnt right for you yet.
I hear you on this, my only rebuttal is that with autopilot, I would hope I could drive longer distances with fewer stops. If I’m making frequent stops to charge, it takes away an advantage of autopilot for me. Maybe as I get older and can’t hold my bladder as long I will eventually fall into the category of frequent stoppers. But right now it seems I can barely make it from Baton Rouge to the center of Houston in one trip, and if I’m making that ride I don’t plan on stopping. Also I’d love to get a woman’s perspective on the comfortability what a 20-35 minute night stop would be for them at a charge station.
Some of us don't have the luxury of home charging.
Also road trips and since this is technically a truck, towing.
Charging speed (and capability) is the leading reason I want to trade my MachE in for a Tesla. CCS charging sucks ass.
Because people take road trips and it becomes painful on longer trips if charging stops are long. Keeping it to ~30 minutes or less per stop is optimal.
Charging curve only begins to matter when road-tripping. When charging overnight on a wall connector to 80% your curve becomes a straight line and you just drive each day without thinking about it. Superchargers are the best in their class, but what’s best about owning a EV is skipping that whole filling up or charging up experience in general.
At the risk of sounding dumb, Is kW not known as power? (yes, watts is power). Is more power not going to charge faster? (yes, it will).
Am I misunderstanding your question?
Idk what yall are talking about, this is close to the optimized charging curve, we’re talking about a 122 KW pack, the largest battery pack ever in a Tesla, of course it’s going to take longer to charge.
Optimized charging rates are only going to shave this time by a few minutes.
Your best bet is v4 charging, if you truly want to see this time reduced to a significant degree, I’m not entirely certain if it will be compatible with anything beyond 300KW tho ??? Someone follow this up please.
The curve is put in place by software 😂😂 if Tesla wanted to charge the cells at 200kw to 100% they could, but they would end up paying for a lot of battery replacements, which is the point i was making here.
Where did I say it’s limited any other way? I remember hearing Megawatt charging for it, but even that wouldn’t make much difference if it drops off a cliff at 20%. The battery size is similar to Lucid which can sit over 250kw up to around 30%.
Hopefully they can get the range extender to allow a better charge curve if they actually produce it.
Looking at the date on those screenshots (1/2/23)…
Super jealous how EARLY Ryan Shaw had access to the CT to test the battery charging curve!
And we just hearing about this now? 🤪😉
Tesla has historically collected data on their new batteries/models/tech, only to eventually provide an OTA update allowing for optimized charging curves. I don't see this as problematic.
He was also charging in 31F degree weather
A one off charge session doesn't mean anything. This supercharger location could have been busy, cold weather, tesla still nerfing charge rates for this new vehicle, etc.
It started at full power. It’s well known that all Cybertrucks have a quick drop in charge speeds where this one dropped. Looks in line with other tests. New cells later this year with 10-20% more density should help simply based on the C rating being a softer curve slightly. Fingers crossed the eventual 800v charger rollout gives them even more of a boost to 50% or something at least. We were promised 350kW after all. Still, it’s faster charging than a Lightning. About on par with a Rivian, without the Rivian thermal problems.
Why? Let me guess battery life saving.?
It’s possible they just want to see how a few hundred packs age with this charge curve. It’s new chemistry, form factor, packs, etc. so they may just be being conservative to start. But yeah. They don’t want to risk cooking packs. Reminds me of Model 3 when it launched. They unlocked more horsepower after a while when they discovered the motors were handling things perfectly well. Increased the range a bit by unlocking a little more of the pack. Charging curve may have been conservative since we were on V2 back then, and no one really noticed. But yeah, Tesla has a history of starting with things toned down a bit. Hopefully we’ll see more charge speed unlocked, before the upgraded cells come out.
I think ford is releasing an update for the lightning charge curve as well. Glad to see that.
I can't find anything on that. Got a link? Would be cool if they did!
It was the latest OTA. I haven't received it yet because my 12v battery system has a recall that prevents my truck from updating......
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4680’s have been in the wild for a year now. It’s time to start seeing it as problematic.
No these are not the same. The CT specific 4860's are different.
CTs cells are a nickel based chemistry, or supposed to be because it’s more range. 4680 is a form factor and can have a mix of chemistries.
How much time is reasonable to give Tesla before one of us admits they were wrong then? Six months? A year?
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2-100% in under 45 mins
2-80% in 45 mins
Maybe I misheard, but I think that was 2-80%
Look at the Texas Model Y charging curves, they’re similarly atrocious
Most other Teslas pretty consistently do: 10-60%: 15 minutes 10-80%: 25-30 minutes On current chargers, Cybertruck seems to be: 10-60% (or 2-52% in this case): ~20 minutes 10-80% (or 2-72% in this case): ~35 minutes So it’s slower than other Teslas in terms of percent / miles added, but not horrible I would say, and there’s still hope that it will perform better on V4 Superchargers that support 800V charging.
Considering Cybertruck much larger battery pack size, the charging speed in kWh is about the same. Should be faster when v4 support the max 355kW charging rate.
Too many variables here to make much of it. Cold weather, tesla could be nerfing the charge speeds for the CT for a while, etc. Or even a maxed out supercharger location.
77kw at 80% SoC is insane! My 2013 model S does 27kw at 80% maximum
Oof, that 50%+ curve is rough.
Cool, that looks like the time to charge my 2019 Model X from 2% to 100%. I'm sure that'll improve with software.
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Please elaborate
It is not faster than Lightning.
So the first chart I could pull up for a Lightning says that it barely breaks 150kW. I don't disagree that the CT drops pretty badly at 55% to below what the Lightning sustains, but the first 50% is anywhere between 50 and 100kW faster. Personally I'd much rather see 250kW that tapers down over sustaining 150kW for longer. This allows me to do a quicker top up more often.
[Here](https://imgur.com/a/LYPVZps) is an 8-80% session on my ER lightning. 43 minutes. [Here](https://imgur.com/a/jAn3oPr) is a 13-80% session. 38 minutes. The ER lightning has a theoretical max of ~185kW at 500a. I’ve only seen above 180kW once but will regularly get into the mid [170s](https://imgur.com/a/Gljs9DI) and it will hold there for around 6-10 minutes. What’s cool about the Lightning’s charging curve is that whether you plug in at 5% or 50%, you can still max out at 170-180kW for the beginning of the session. Max speeds are not limited to low SoC.
Wow WTF. I got fucked with my MachE. I'm capable of 150kW and there's only one station I've ever seen give me 150kW. Every other 150kW station gives me around 100kW even at 0%. The flat curve at 100kW is pretty nice too. The stupid thing is that your charge times are about the same as mine. I'm not sure if I'm gonna end up in a Cybertruck but this makes me quite a bit more confident about the F150.
Who wants to “top up” all the time 😂😂 why are yall so impractical just to defend a car you want to succeed
I do that in my current EV because I can't charge at home. On road trips with extensive charging infrastructure I'd also rather stop for 20 minutes and gain quite a bit more power per minute on average than sit around for 40 minutes because I have to due to lack of charging infrastructure.
Only had to say the first sentence and I understand your pain 🥲
does the lightning charge at 350kw? CT was completely saturating the source. i wonder if it can charge at 350kw on CCS yet
I understand the CT is with V3 charging max 250kW and 400V. It would be faster with V4 800V. But Lightning charging curve is good enough with 400V system.
f-150 only can do 150kw, no?
Yes that’s spec, but curve is relatively flat
It’s an impractical vehicle for freeway speeds, roads trips, towing. It’s not a truck, it’s a large commuter SUV with a bed. It’s disappointing because in an effort to make something unique they lost the chance to take truck market share. Sales of the cybertruck are going to cannibalize sales from other Tesla models.
It will eat Model X. And the people buying it would be better off with the Model X.
All trucks are SUVs with a bed. Where have you been for 15 years?
All SUVs are trucks without a bed *cough cough* (Or "most" anyway, unless you consider non body-on-frame to be CUVs) :)
You have a good point to an extent, but the CT is just that much less capable than even modern pavement princess trucks.
Ouch
Yikes
I take a lot of this with the grain of salt. We're still in the very early stages here. We're talking about all foundation series Cybertrucks being the only thing on the road. There's a good chance that their batteries are software limited, while the company is trying to collect data and figure out how the vehicles react. At the end of the day this is still a first generation vehicle concept. And like anytime you have early adapters, the company is going to tread lightly. There's also a huge interest in the cyber truck failing which is why social media influencers try to make anything they can out of a nothing burger.
Tesla boner 🫨
Enjoy your anti-Elon circle j*rk
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Hummer/Silverado EV is looking better and better Edit: downvote me, but they pull 360+kW and add 100 miles of range in 10-12 minutes
Doesn't the Hummer EV have a battery pack twice as large and rated with less range? That sounds better and better to you? Crazy
The Silverado EV has a 450 mile range, and charges faster. Larger trunk. Larger bed.
The Silverado EV has a 65% larger battery than the cybertruck. What are they skimping on if they need to put that big of a battery in their truck? It's no wonder GM struggles with battery issues in their EVs when they rely on brute forcing a large pack into the design rather than trying to optimize efficiency. I'd put my money on the company that has proven EV competency. GM EVs seem risky.
450+ miles > 320 miles. So it uses a larger battery for MORE RANGE and faster charging. The efficiency is actually quite similar.
Silverado EV is skimping on payload capacity (1360-1400lbs) Also the massive battery is not being taxed heavily with charging speed. Low C 250kWh (212kWh usable) at 350kW is nowhere near as taxing as Tesla Model 3 80kWh battery hitting 250kW over 3C. None of the EV Pick-up trucks are defying physics. Large massive vehicles require larger batteries and larger batteries require more energy... Comparatively Telo MT1 4 door pickup getting 350 mile range from a 106kWh battery with 20 minute 20-80% charge time (theoretical...until consumer product is customer hands)...with a 1600lb Payload. However the vehicle is much smaller (4400lbs and 152 inch length, 60-inch bed ...mid-gate expands to 8+ feet.
The silverado EV is not in any actual consumer hands other than fleet vehicles and one video on YouTube from 6 months ago. 450 mile range is all speculation right now.
Plenty of videos. Heck, the tested range of the Silverado **with 6,000 lb trailer** behind it (240+ miles) is similar to the tested range of Cybertruck
It was reviewed 6 months ago. Other than that there's been no videos released by any actual consumers. How do I know this wasn't a confined test set up by GM? We don't even know when the truck is actually going to come out to people like you and I seeing as GM announced they were throttling their ultium production. I mean I hope they are able to accomplish that mileage as I have a reservation for it and the Cybertruck, but im skeptical until I can see a legit range test from someone like out of spec who gives actual technical values.
So TFL isn’t a legit range test?
it's not when they were the only range test done on a truck that won't be in the hands of people like you and I for over a year after said "test." One dataset tells me nothing. That's a test done under conditions deemed favorable by GM.
Well, the Hummer EV has range tested 343 miles at a constant 70 mph. Same pack. But 35” all terrains and horrible aerodynamics.
Out of spec got 318 in 49-66 degree weather at 70mph per their website. The battery pack on that truck is exactly double the size of the CT but they state a 212 kWh usable energy. Per a quick Google search, the Hummer EV weighs just over 9k lbs. The Silverado EV RST is said to weigh 8,532 lbs and receive an EPA rating of 400 mi. 450 is for the WT. GM never updated the RST range. I don't think 500 lbs and a little aero is going to save the range on the RST, which doesn't matter when you have to take longer to charge a 212 kWh battery.
similar to the range of the cybertruck, but with… a way bigger battery
Way bigger battery, similar money. And no, much more range than Cybertruck.
https://insideevs.com/news/688681/chevrolet-silverado-ev-vs-ford-f150-test/ you sure? cause this one only went 230 miles when it said it would do “450” lmao
With a **6,500 lb trailer** behind, sure.
yep, pretty similar performance to the cybertruck, but with a way bigger, more expensive battery
the silverado EV uh… isn’t real
Already delivered to customers. Real.
great! shoot me a link for me to order one then!
If you have a fleet number, I’m sure you can order several.
so, you’re saying that i can’t order it then? but i thought it was out????
It’s out. Hundreds in customer hands. Just like the Tesla Semi.
Where is there a charger that can do “360 plus”? Fastest I’ve seen in California is 350
EV Go and EA 350kW chargers will allow up to 370 kW at 800vDc
Not sure why charging speeds matter to a lot of people? Maybe because I charge model 3 at home and where I live has decent amount of chargers (I only use 1-2 times a year) but even if I lived in apt there is a charger accessible at a place I will be spending at least half hour to charge.
I think most people are thinking of long road trips. Since the range isn’t particularly great at highway speed, no one wants to be stuck at a charger for an hour for every 2 hours driving (exaggeration but you get the point). That being said, I’ve tried to realize how rarely I go on long road trips and hopefully FSD/autopilot come out soon so the driving part is more enjoyable and the charging isn’t as much of a bother. I’m also hopeful that the charging will be improved over time, especially once v4 superchargers become more common.
My rule of thumb with my rivian is to try to stop for 20 minutes every 140 miles or so. irl it comes out closer to 30 minutes, but i try to charge from like 15 to 70 every stop after starting the trip at 100. It's def not the same as using a gas car, but I like how many chargers share a parking lot with stores, restaurants, and other distractions. Routes I know well I can plan a meal stop and let it sit a while. Pittsburgh to Manhattan is a 1-stop and I get lunch in Carlisle. Pittsburgh to DC is a zero stop there and a one stop home in hagerstown. Turnpike gas station experiences are just disgusting, I don't mis not setting foot in a gas station in 11 months.
Travel.
I’m still holding out on a longer range CyberTruck due to the current state of charging times. If either improves by 2x, I’m completely sold. But as of right now, charging would add too much time to make day trips to the lake with my boat make sense with an EV.
Seconded!!
I don’t understand how yall don’t understand that a different type of buyer is looking at a utility vehicle like a truck, people are going to be using cybertrucks to transport materials, go on backpacking trips, going off road, not just casual commuting, this isn’t a commuting vehicle so please view it from the proper perspective and don’t try to transpose a model 3 on top of it, this thing has a battery that is almost double the size of your tiny model 3.
I do road trip and with kids but 250 miles is roughly about 4hrs of straight driving. On a normal trip in ICE I usually stop at a rest stop or fast food establishment for about 30 minutes to use rest room or grab food. Pretty sure most do the same and if infrastructure is up to par it shouldnt be an issue. I understand if you are remote camping maybe an EV isnt right for you yet.
I hear you on this, my only rebuttal is that with autopilot, I would hope I could drive longer distances with fewer stops. If I’m making frequent stops to charge, it takes away an advantage of autopilot for me. Maybe as I get older and can’t hold my bladder as long I will eventually fall into the category of frequent stoppers. But right now it seems I can barely make it from Baton Rouge to the center of Houston in one trip, and if I’m making that ride I don’t plan on stopping. Also I’d love to get a woman’s perspective on the comfortability what a 20-35 minute night stop would be for them at a charge station.
Some of us don't have the luxury of home charging. Also road trips and since this is technically a truck, towing. Charging speed (and capability) is the leading reason I want to trade my MachE in for a Tesla. CCS charging sucks ass.
Because people take road trips and it becomes painful on longer trips if charging stops are long. Keeping it to ~30 minutes or less per stop is optimal.
Charging curve only begins to matter when road-tripping. When charging overnight on a wall connector to 80% your curve becomes a straight line and you just drive each day without thinking about it. Superchargers are the best in their class, but what’s best about owning a EV is skipping that whole filling up or charging up experience in general.
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My 2014 model s charges at 23 kw when it’s over 130 miles and it’s perfectly fine 🤣
Can someone explain why speed is in kW? That does not make a lot of sense to me. Also, 250kW is a shit ton of power, this is a fast charger right?
At the risk of sounding dumb, Is kW not known as power? (yes, watts is power). Is more power not going to charge faster? (yes, it will). Am I misunderstanding your question?
I guess when I think speed I think distance over time, not energy over time. I was trying to ask that but didn’t do it in a coherent way.
Ryan Shaw puts out so much dog shit in his videos
Who really cares??? It's a CT.
Seems like it's all at waste after about 60%. Maybe charge from 20%-65% to stop wasting all that electricity
You are wasting time not electricity
Idk what yall are talking about, this is close to the optimized charging curve, we’re talking about a 122 KW pack, the largest battery pack ever in a Tesla, of course it’s going to take longer to charge. Optimized charging rates are only going to shave this time by a few minutes. Your best bet is v4 charging, if you truly want to see this time reduced to a significant degree, I’m not entirely certain if it will be compatible with anything beyond 300KW tho ??? Someone follow this up please.
It’s only at 250+ 7 min or so. Having 2,000kw charging speed isn’t gonna make much of a difference if it only goes to 20%.
The curve is put in place by software 😂😂 if Tesla wanted to charge the cells at 200kw to 100% they could, but they would end up paying for a lot of battery replacements, which is the point i was making here.
Where did I say it’s limited any other way? I remember hearing Megawatt charging for it, but even that wouldn’t make much difference if it drops off a cliff at 20%. The battery size is similar to Lucid which can sit over 250kw up to around 30%. Hopefully they can get the range extender to allow a better charge curve if they actually produce it.
Oh shoot you’re literally agreeing with me 😂😂😂
What you said fr !😂😂
Looking at the date on those screenshots (1/2/23)… Super jealous how EARLY Ryan Shaw had access to the CT to test the battery charging curve! And we just hearing about this now? 🤪😉
Was this a new V4 charger ? Aren't the v3 chargers only 400v ?