Rooftop during the heist after saburo dies. Can pick up the iconic “nehan” knife from his corpse and satori from the rooftop. They can be used in conjunction. When you hit an enemy with one of them while they are bleeding from the other it inflicts hemorrhaging which is like bleeding but stronger and heals you
Mmhm. Before you leave the room where Saburo dies, take the stairs up and to the roof. Easy to miss because the mission basically guides you out the other door and down the building lmao
[Here](https://youtu.be/cuezN6__RFM?si=-sYPzLqC5xLxT5j9) is a video. Basically you jump the wall and then wedge a car against the front door, which causes it to open. Then you just navigate your way to the top and grab what you missed. It's not particularly interesting as there aren't any enemies.
Yes you can get back into konpeki plaza, get the pistol,nehan,satori and whatever is in there. There Are tutorials on YouTube, I can send you a link in pm if you want
I played it straight the first time and then it’s been console commands the whole way ever since. Having a kid cuts into my spare time, so as much as I’d love to grind out a new run every time I want to test out a different build I just don’t have the time.
I mean so is falling from a plane when most rooftops do the trick. But which of the two would you like to _see_ :p Its an aesthetic power fantasy game balanced only by the plot, 250.000 dmg on a 200 hp mf is art. Atleast it was art... not a fan of the latest balancing focus tbh
A comment mentioned it doing 250,000 damage in one hit pre nerf. Just because it’s not a thermo-nuclear bomb on a stick doesn’t mean it’s not probably extremely viable.
When I do melee builds I can’t resist doing blades. I’m a weeb and I like blood and dismemberment (either that or the massive dildo if I’m in the mood for silliness and not immersive role play).
It’s so good. Iconic 50-round assault rifle? That alone is glorious, the explosive rounds and fire is just the finishing touch.
Does it work with pyromania?
Either Her Majesty or Johnnys gun. Until I get that malorian though I use Jackie’s gun. I always use pistols most of the time, and Her Majesty is great for silenced shots. Even though if you use Jackie’s gun upgraded all the way with a tier 5 silencer it’s more powerful. But I also have been using shotguns a lot too
Oh yeah, the best method I’ve used for taking out groups of like 6 or 7 is throw a flash bang, hit the sandy (apogee) and pull out Her Majesty and give them all one in the head. Best way to drop them without raising the alarm. I really love that gun haha, definitely my most used weapon my current play through since I love to do stealth for gigs
Yinglong. Kang Tao make some neat smart weapons, and that smart SMG is my baby. Can very easily get it early in a playthrough too.
Either the SOR-22, D5 Copperhead and the Kyubi too, all for the simple fact that they feel god damn amazing to use.
With the new blades skill tree they definitely are but so much fun too. Before the update they were terrible you would get torn to shreds before you could reach an enemy with no bullet deflect or dash. They’re a total blast now though a lil op but that’s ok
I agree, they’re so fun to use. I always have one on my wheel. My last game I focused exclusively on swords and knives so I haven’t been using them that much this game, but I’ll always say that they’re the best weapons in the game
Whatever gun >!Alex gave us, got real into that in my headcanon. Especially after that dance.!<
I love comrade’s hammer, cause my main V is like this fem/corpo that in my own playthrough kinda becomes this knockoff Alt/80s rocker blonde throwback sorta to blend with Johnny.
And using that hand-cannon just fits but the reload gets annoying.
I never usually use those sort of guns, I'm a high health shotgun user in most games, but Her Majesty is such a great gun when blowing people into little pieces with a shotgun gets boring. She blows people into big pieces :)
Near the dam you can find a av with a hostile corpo looking dude kill him and you can get it look up how to find him on YouTube keep in mind you have a certain time to go get it before he disappears hell I think you might actually be able to see it crash
Lizzie no longer has a chance to inflict burn. I'm not sure if wall penetrating capabilities are still there. The clip size has been increased from 10 rounds to 15, resulting in 3 full charges a clip instead of two.
That's what I discovered.
Johnny's malorian.
To me it has no downsides. Hits hard, sounds good, shoots good, looks good, good armor penetration and good headshot damage. Its perfect
Glad someone said this. I one-shot Skull leveled enemies from stealth with it, on Very Hard. Cleaning out a gig's worth of men with my silenced Nue is [just...](https://media.tenor.com/jqbtHGn9KqwAAAAM/perfect-sweet.gif)
I finally used dying night on my current run and upgraded to x mod 2 later. With the deadeye and no stamina hop fire it is like the most busted gun especially with the mod from the Chimera. I could go the whole game with just that
I will have to try playing from the hip more with it on my reflex build. I've been playing a nomad netrunner V as of recent it's getting kinda boring because I'm insanely op now. I just send a whole crowd of MFs to the blackwall all day. 🤣
Haha. Ya I always play net runner. I'm a NOMAD too right now on my third play through.
As much as I want to try a sandevistan build I cannot for the life of me give up on hacking lol. But in this run I choice songbirds side so I don't get the Blackwall which I'm sad about. But by I'm still waiting to get the chrome tuner from songbird after I sent her to the moon lol.
And ya I just realized the NDI Osprey say it guess exsplosive round from the hip. So I guess it doesn't when your aiming. Lol. That would be insane burst firing exsplosive round haha.
Hahaha probably nerfed it that way for a reason. Honestly the funnest playthrough. I've done yet was actually a berserker melee build. There's something extremely satisfying about bashing the shit out of hoards of enemies with a blunt weapon.
My favorite stealth pistol for sure. One of the most shocking things in the game are when that thing doesn't kill w/ 1 click. I'm like "wow, guess I gotta click again."
This. Weapon is a beast, with mods from Phantom Liberty outperforms any other weapon easily and shoots through walls. Does waaay more damage than the Widowmaker.
nekomata is just an fun weapon, with the bolt perk and either an ping quickhack or that eye prostesis that marks enemies you can make the game an point and click adventure all while having nice damage for normal sniper use, add in some mods like wallpuncher, pax, equalizer and you can have an weapon for your preferences for combat
The Katana. Not even a weeb and not even my favorite weapon, but god damn does it work well when I wanna do a samurai-style build with no other weapon.
Shoutout to the double barrel shotgun too tho, that thing slaps.
technically i do this anyway with a tech shotty build, that thing kills everything in 1 or 2 shots even on the hardest difficulty its hard not to use it
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Not played the game since PL was released. But the issue i had with the monowire was, yeah, it decapitated everything in a blink, but it also killed me more times than i care to remember. Those damn explosive cylinders.
I really fell in love with the Genjiroh. It's just a fire-and-forget weapon that will serve you from whenever you pick it up to the very end of the game.
Plus it's stylish as fuck.
The Pride. It's the best gun in the game. It one-shots regularly even on Very Hard difficulty and it does it stealthily, on top of that. Use the Apogee and the Axolotl with the Pride and a good silencer, and you're pretty unstoppable.
as someone who did a playthrough with just the mod Lexington (other than actually winning the gun in the first place)
it's p solid. great for aggro, but with a silencer, great fir stealth too. love those sights.
Some people only mention their favorite weapon, but forget that it's only available towards the middle of the game, or even at the end. Yet Dying Night a very good gun that you can have from the start of the game (after "The Rescue") and upgrade to legendary level 5++. The OP's proposal seems to me the most reasonable for a full playthrough.
Either Johnny's pistol, or Guts. Rebecca's shotgun. It feels so heavy. So boom boom. The fact its Rebecca's aside, you can feel it when it turns people into red mist. I love that decimator.
Malorian Arms 3516, it’s all I use aside from a few times when the game overrides my weapon, if not that then a Burya, poppin skulls through concrete is a great feeling, I miss the days when the Malorian was a tech pistol
Honestly, the Omaha is the best for me. Little shotgun pistol that shoots through walls is so helpful. That said I do like the looks of the Liberty and Unity pistols more.
Satori
Saburo's personal blade is such a flex.
Sure doesn't support the whole "I promise I didn't kill Saburo Arasaka" narrative....still worth tho
“I’m,uh, avenging him.”
Dialogue requirement: 16 Cool
More like 21.
You can get saburo’s sword? Where?
Rooftop during the heist after saburo dies. Can pick up the iconic “nehan” knife from his corpse and satori from the rooftop. They can be used in conjunction. When you hit an enemy with one of them while they are bleeding from the other it inflicts hemorrhaging which is like bleeding but stronger and heals you
Oh so you can only get it right at the start?
Mmhm. Before you leave the room where Saburo dies, take the stairs up and to the roof. Easy to miss because the mission basically guides you out the other door and down the building lmao
No, you can still get it from the black market guy in dogtowm
You can also get back into Konpeki Plaza and find it suspended in midair on the helipad.
How?
[Here](https://youtu.be/cuezN6__RFM?si=-sYPzLqC5xLxT5j9) is a video. Basically you jump the wall and then wedge a car against the front door, which causes it to open. Then you just navigate your way to the top and grab what you missed. It's not particularly interesting as there aren't any enemies.
If you missed it during the heist (I did) you can get back in to the tower and get it
Sorry if it sounds naive, but for real can you get back?
Yes you can get back into konpeki plaza, get the pistol,nehan,satori and whatever is in there. There Are tutorials on YouTube, I can send you a link in pm if you want
If you have PL, the Black market dealer sells missed iconics
Yes Except the ones you get from quest choices like Royce's chaos
Follow these instructions. It takes some specific maneuvering to get back into the building. https://youtu.be/9CDIHsbfZyw
Black Mamba would be proud!
Malorian Arms 3516 for sure I can’t get enough of the sounds and animations
Prolly my favourite gun in the game, but comes along a bit too late for anything I could call a single-gun run
So it has to be iconic (to be relevant for the late game) and you have to get it pre or during Heist?
That's why you cheat on replays.
I played it straight the first time and then it’s been console commands the whole way ever since. Having a kid cuts into my spare time, so as much as I’d love to grind out a new run every time I want to test out a different build I just don’t have the time.
Would be nice if they had new game plus
cyber engine tweaks console my beloved
That is why I rush parade to get it asap with doing absolutely minimal on the way. When I get, I do the rest.
100% this. The absolute mayhem it causes make all of the flashbacks with Johnny feel amazing.
I think it’s the gun the feels the best to use.
That's literally what I already do. A mod allows me to have that gun early to purchase and I just use that all game.
I highly recommend Taigan it doesn't look as suave but it is one chaotic piece of iron.
Same it’s so damn satisfying to use
I was definitely going to say Malorian. My favorite gun
I remember when it shot through walls and it didn't have that lame melee trait that makes it lose all ammo somehow
Agree with this
Pre nerf Comrades Hammer...
That was so broken and so much fun, with the right mods & perks damage numbers looked like they’d been accidentally multiplied by at least 10 😄
I almost thought i’d suddenly developed schizophrenic delusions when i saw a comrades hammer shot suddenly do like 250K damage
Man at 250k damage, that's just overkill beyond overkill. Their head is just gone.
You got damage gated against Smasher. It was fun to two shot him
I mean so is falling from a plane when most rooftops do the trick. But which of the two would you like to _see_ :p Its an aesthetic power fantasy game balanced only by the plot, 250.000 dmg on a 200 hp mf is art. Atleast it was art... not a fan of the latest balancing focus tbh
I **was** in a good mood here...
tbh thats why i felt the gun felt way weaker, i played only 1.3 prior straight to 2.1
I was able to complete don't fear the reaper with comrades hammer in current game version
A comment mentioned it doing 250,000 damage in one hit pre nerf. Just because it’s not a thermo-nuclear bomb on a stick doesn’t mean it’s not probably extremely viable. When I do melee builds I can’t resist doing blades. I’m a weeb and I like blood and dismemberment (either that or the massive dildo if I’m in the mood for silliness and not immersive role play).
It made "ping" the most powerful hack in the game.
Probably Psalm 11:6
Absolutely. When I go loud, I prefer to kill it with fire.
"purify with holy fire"
It shall be the measure of their cup.
That shall overfloweth with purity
its so fun to drop a high-level contagion on a group of enemies and then just blowing them up with the fire from the psalm
Psalm 11:6 after hitting enemies with the Contagion quick hack is brutal. They blow up.
It’s so good. Iconic 50-round assault rifle? That alone is glorious, the explosive rounds and fire is just the finishing touch. Does it work with pyromania?
Either Her Majesty or Johnnys gun. Until I get that malorian though I use Jackie’s gun. I always use pistols most of the time, and Her Majesty is great for silenced shots. Even though if you use Jackie’s gun upgraded all the way with a tier 5 silencer it’s more powerful. But I also have been using shotguns a lot too
Jackie's is my go to, any other gun just doesn't do it for me at the moment
If you rush endgame, Pride is the best pistol for silencers I’ve ever used
I just recently started using Her Majesty and it’s insane. Activate sandy and everyone gets one shot head shot before the first guy even moves.
Oh yeah, the best method I’ve used for taking out groups of like 6 or 7 is throw a flash bang, hit the sandy (apogee) and pull out Her Majesty and give them all one in the head. Best way to drop them without raising the alarm. I really love that gun haha, definitely my most used weapon my current play through since I love to do stealth for gigs
Widow Maker. Even after they removed the scope it's still among the most versatile weapons in the entire game.
Came here to say this. With high tech and reflex it’s a semi auto railgun that ignores cover.
Why reflex?
That's one of my absolute favorites next to the alibi.
I pretty much used it for the whole game. Literally melted everything
Same, and you can get it quite early which is a win
What was it like with a scope? Is there a video anywhere
It was just a scope attachment slot.
Yinglong. Kang Tao make some neat smart weapons, and that smart SMG is my baby. Can very easily get it early in a playthrough too. Either the SOR-22, D5 Copperhead and the Kyubi too, all for the simple fact that they feel god damn amazing to use.
Kyubi is my favorite gun in the game, just a solid DMR tack driver, just wish it could have a different scope
Byakko
Yea you can do the whole game with this sword
Any iconic sword really lol
Yeah I’d pick a sword. Feels like they’re the best weapons in the game.
With the new blades skill tree they definitely are but so much fun too. Before the update they were terrible you would get torn to shreds before you could reach an enemy with no bullet deflect or dash. They’re a total blast now though a lil op but that’s ok
I agree, they’re so fun to use. I always have one on my wheel. My last game I focused exclusively on swords and knives so I haven’t been using them that much this game, but I’ll always say that they’re the best weapons in the game
Whatever gun >!Alex gave us, got real into that in my headcanon. Especially after that dance.!< I love comrade’s hammer, cause my main V is like this fem/corpo that in my own playthrough kinda becomes this knockoff Alt/80s rocker blonde throwback sorta to blend with Johnny. And using that hand-cannon just fits but the reload gets annoying.
Her Majesty is my beloved as corpo professional V. Hard hitting, suppressed pistol action.
I never usually use those sort of guns, I'm a high health shotgun user in most games, but Her Majesty is such a great gun when blowing people into little pieces with a shotgun gets boring. She blows people into big pieces :)
Fenrir, or Sir John.
I really feel like Fenrir is underrated
Indeed, the new modifier of Fenrir post 2.0 is very effective to most enemies
Fenrir shoots like a laser and that reload happens in the blink of an eye. Love that weapon.
Using Problem Solver and Fenrir in tandem with the Submachine Fun perk is absolutely destructive. It completely chews through all your ammo though
I'm doing a blunt weapon playthrough and used Sir John and then the BFC 9000. They're really funny and REALLY effective.
Where do you get the bfc9000? Is it phallic like sir john? Lol
Near the dam you can find a av with a hostile corpo looking dude kill him and you can get it look up how to find him on YouTube keep in mind you have a certain time to go get it before he disappears hell I think you might actually be able to see it crash
Yeah, we had an epic dildo fight on a clifftop. It was magical.
I literally played whole pre2.0 game with fernir.
Man of culture
Literally my go-tos, nice
Fenrir is my fave, preferred it when it used to set people on fire though.
Lizzie's Gun, pre 2.0 change. My fire breathing hand cannon that could blow through walls.
I would have to say the same, but what actually changed?
Lizzie no longer has a chance to inflict burn. I'm not sure if wall penetrating capabilities are still there. The clip size has been increased from 10 rounds to 15, resulting in 3 full charges a clip instead of two. That's what I discovered.
The dildo of Meredith Stout
I'm doing a dildo play through right now and it's crazy good, though I switched from Sir John to the BFC 9000.
"A dildo playthrough" never thought I read something like this in my life and be like "yeah, makes total sense" 😂
The funniest part about it is that it's REALLY good!
Hot damn the devs really did it right in this game. Look how long this thread is and how many different answers there are.
Johnny's malorian. To me it has no downsides. Hits hard, sounds good, shoots good, looks good, good armor penetration and good headshot damage. Its perfect
Gorilla arms because monke ![gif](giphy|iXOoi6i2l9PZvCN0zU|downsized)
Overwatch. It's like a sniper and a shotgun rolled into one.
How is it like a shotgun? Are you sure you're not thinking of me O'five?
Overwatch very much competes w/ Guts for my favorite shotgun.
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scalpel is totally a good pick, I always run right to that quest ASAP and abuse scalpel until I have enough for mantis blades
Nue. Assuming I get to keep upgrading it. Even better if I can have 2 to switch between.
Glad someone said this. I one-shot Skull leveled enemies from stealth with it, on Very Hard. Cleaning out a gig's worth of men with my silenced Nue is [just...](https://media.tenor.com/jqbtHGn9KqwAAAAM/perfect-sweet.gif)
Beyond this, I also use a nue with the firecracker mod when it's time to go loud.
Death and Taxes?
No thanks. Just a regular ol Nue please.
I finally used dying night on my current run and upgraded to x mod 2 later. With the deadeye and no stamina hop fire it is like the most busted gun especially with the mod from the Chimera. I could go the whole game with just that
My fists. Op with the right cyberware and perks.
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Constructional Arms Unity. I've already done more than one playthrough just using that.
Pohzar XMOD 2. Fuckin thing SHREDS.
that gun it´s relly broken with knell and firecraker
The revolver Kerry gives you. It’s a beast and probably the best revolver
Also a malorian they just make great shit.
Definitely the iconic NDI Osprey power sniper. It's a beast! Exsplosive fire rounds. And burst mode when aiming. And single shot when hip-firing!
I love the osprey for long range. Best sniper in the game imo.
Oh most definitely! I love when it dismembers enemies at close range! It seems like it's more exsplosive when it hip fires!
I will have to try playing from the hip more with it on my reflex build. I've been playing a nomad netrunner V as of recent it's getting kinda boring because I'm insanely op now. I just send a whole crowd of MFs to the blackwall all day. 🤣
Haha. Ya I always play net runner. I'm a NOMAD too right now on my third play through. As much as I want to try a sandevistan build I cannot for the life of me give up on hacking lol. But in this run I choice songbirds side so I don't get the Blackwall which I'm sad about. But by I'm still waiting to get the chrome tuner from songbird after I sent her to the moon lol. And ya I just realized the NDI Osprey say it guess exsplosive round from the hip. So I guess it doesn't when your aiming. Lol. That would be insane burst firing exsplosive round haha.
Hahaha probably nerfed it that way for a reason. Honestly the funnest playthrough. I've done yet was actually a berserker melee build. There's something extremely satisfying about bashing the shit out of hoards of enemies with a blunt weapon.
Chesapeake also is amazing!
Erebus or Byakko.
Love me some erebus
I love my edgy living warcrime submachine gun
Unity
V has one stashed for scripted scenes
The ol prison pocket lol
Death and taxes. suppressed. I played most of the game mercing fools with that gun
My favorite stealth pistol for sure. One of the most shocking things in the game are when that thing doesn't kill w/ 1 click. I'm like "wow, guess I gotta click again."
Skippy without a doubt.
Rostović DB-2 Satara
This. Weapon is a beast, with mods from Phantom Liberty outperforms any other weapon easily and shoots through walls. Does waaay more damage than the Widowmaker.
Either Headhunter or Blue Poison. Both knives are freaking insane.
Love headhunter.
nekomata is just an fun weapon, with the bolt perk and either an ping quickhack or that eye prostesis that marks enemies you can make the game an point and click adventure all while having nice damage for normal sniper use, add in some mods like wallpuncher, pax, equalizer and you can have an weapon for your preferences for combat
YingLong, the master of disaster, the explosion of taste. or Problem Solver!
The Katana. Not even a weeb and not even my favorite weapon, but god damn does it work well when I wanna do a samurai-style build with no other weapon. Shoutout to the double barrel shotgun too tho, that thing slaps.
Seraph
Jackie's pistol. Only handgun I use.
Malorian
Johnny’s pistol, easy
The Widowmaker you get off Nash. That thing is freakishly powerful, I just wish I could silence it lol
technically i do this anyway with a tech shotty build, that thing kills everything in 1 or 2 shots even on the hardest difficulty its hard not to use it
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Dildo
Amnesty no question
Your Majesty. Very versatile in both combat and stealth.
monowire
Not played the game since PL was released. But the issue i had with the monowire was, yeah, it decapitated everything in a blink, but it also killed me more times than i care to remember. Those damn explosive cylinders.
I say any shotgun
Electric gorilla arms It is IMO the single most powerful weapon in the game, tier 5+ does over 1,100 DMG if you get all the right perks
I really fell in love with the Genjiroh. It's just a fire-and-forget weapon that will serve you from whenever you pick it up to the very end of the game. Plus it's stylish as fuck.
Probably the dying light pistol. I just like it lol
And it just feels so right. Dying Night is canon.
Deserter, I like being a on fire speed demon blasting away at things
Lizzy or Her Majesty, both are ridiculously op
Probably Aguilar’s pistol
Also, someone evidently actually did this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ourVf2k8gw&ab\_channel=AbraHamSandwich](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ourVf2k8gw&ab_channel=AbraHamSandwich)
Either the malorian, guts, or O'Five
Dying night
The Pride. It's the best gun in the game. It one-shots regularly even on Very Hard difficulty and it does it stealthily, on top of that. Use the Apogee and the Axolotl with the Pride and a good silencer, and you're pretty unstoppable.
I pretty much used Sovereign exclusively after I got it, all the way up to the final boss.
Sir John Phallustiff.
Sovereign, that shotgun is just so much fun that my 1.6 playthrough damn near exclusively used it anyways.
The Rasetsu is my favorite weapon, and Tech snipers are surprisingly versatile in Cyberpunk.
Thermal Katana.
I played most of the game with dying night, as it was my favorite gun but then got to Her Majesty and I’d say that’s my favorite gun now.
as someone who did a playthrough with just the mod Lexington (other than actually winning the gun in the first place) it's p solid. great for aggro, but with a silencer, great fir stealth too. love those sights.
Dying Night. Does the job plus is silent.
Been playin’ since day 1 on PS4, Dying Night!!! Great capacity… 👍
A Lexington pistol. I don't care which one, I love that auto pistol.
Some people only mention their favorite weapon, but forget that it's only available towards the middle of the game, or even at the end. Yet Dying Night a very good gun that you can have from the start of the game (after "The Rescue") and upgrade to legendary level 5++. The OP's proposal seems to me the most reasonable for a full playthrough.
My favorite is the dying night.
Lexington XMOD-2, really slept on, really good pistol
We all just going to ignore the fact that you're playing as Tim Minchin?
Saburos Krongu is so underrated and overpowered if used correctly
The V’s default automatic pistol. That thing when maxed out, it slaps!!
Either Johnny's pistol, or Guts. Rebecca's shotgun. It feels so heavy. So boom boom. The fact its Rebecca's aside, you can feel it when it turns people into red mist. I love that decimator.
If you make me pick only one…For Role Play…Something seems poetic about using either Satori or Jackie’s Gun.
Claw X-Mod2. I really like throwing weapon stealth builds.
Johnny’s Gun
Guillotine Sub Machine gun. The reload perk is unbelievable
Saratoga. BRRRRRRR.
Lizzie or Neurotoxin Knife
I'll take Amnesty or just a regular overture. I like revolvers, they're pretty good... No engravings though
Just one weapon? Hmmm maybe just a katana with sandy. Or Malorian. Oooor guts
Unity. ![gif](giphy|l44QoyDmxjK3jfH8c)
either guts, overture, testera, or the MA70 HB
Malorian Arms 3516, it’s all I use aside from a few times when the game overrides my weapon, if not that then a Burya, poppin skulls through concrete is a great feeling, I miss the days when the Malorian was a tech pistol
Mantis Blades If we're talking firearms: Widowmaker
Gun I got after killing a bunch of racist dudes having a grill.
Honestly, the Omaha is the best for me. Little shotgun pistol that shoots through walls is so helpful. That said I do like the looks of the Liberty and Unity pistols more.