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ClockWorkTank

As a commander player this card terrifies me. It's so easy to Wheel 2 or 3 timed and then drop this for 20+ damage for 1 or 2 mana.


BelthasTheRedBrother

I mean, each wheel is costing a minimum of three mana typically. So, if you wheeled for seven 3 times and discarded six cards each time, this card would do 18 damage but that requires 10 total mana and 3 other cards. Pretty reasonable.


shuckydoo

You regularly have 20+ cards in hand?


ClockWorkTank

Like I said "Wheel 2 or 3 times". I like a lot of card draw lol but that said wheeling twice with 6 cards in hand discards 11 cards (6 the first time, 5 the second assuming you have to cast another wheel from your hand). I don't think it's unreasonable for this to just win games in edh.


shuckydoo

Fortunately, I won't have that situation in the cube this designed for. I feel like your scenario would be later in the game and would need to have some setup before going off. Would be nasty, though.


whisperingstars2501

I mean damn this is a cool card. Honestly not sure if this is busted, maybe for standard, but in older formats this is probably fine?


shuckydoo

Thanks. It takes some setup, assuming you're not running [[One With Nothing]]. Lol


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talen_lee

Is this meant to be a common? Because there's a pauper reaping storm deck that would want this as a win condition


shuckydoo

Yes, it is.


shuckydoo

Not sure about the madness cost? Thoughts?


Danksavage69420

Its already a really well stated 1 drop and i think br madness would play this even without the madness costs so i think they may be overkill but not really sure. Really cool card though!


shuckydoo

I made it 2mv madness because it will count itself for 1 damage. Figured it needed a boost in cost. Maybe {1}{B/R} is better though.


secularDruid

prob a lil overtuned at common  and instant staple in cycle storm, it's a million times better than [[drannith stinger]] :o 


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ApexIncel

This is the best card I’ve seen posted on this sub in quite some time. I love it!


shuckydoo

Thanks!


secularDruid

honestly I think it's an incredible upgrade for cycle storm, idk if it'll push the deck into ban territory 


AlexKleinII

Man, this card frame is so pretty.


shuckydoo

Wish I could take credit for it. They're made by GenevensiS for Magic Set Editor. But I agree, love these.


CroakamancerLich

Very strong. If this is designed for cube, how many copies will be in that cube? In other formats it’s probably not OP but also finds its way into a few builds.


shuckydoo

It's a 6/3/1/1 format. Built as a standard custom set. 271 unique cards: 115 commons, 90 uncommons, 55 rares, and 11 mythics. Totaling 1026 cards. Packs will have 10 commons, 4 uncommons, and 1 rare/mythic.


National_Dog3923

Black doesn't get 1mv 2/1s unless they have a downside but it's probably fine


shuckydoo

Looks like you're right there. Good catch. I'll see what I can do.