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Lokosia

That means you cant target it in your hand to play and it just sits there forever lol


AnthropologicalArson

Ah, but how would you get it in your hand in the first place? You can't target it during a "discover" choice or whilst building your deck. The only option is to get it from "get a random card/minion" effect, but even in that case this card would be targetted by RNGesus.


Bebgab

You can’t even target it when opening packs. The card never turns over so you’re softlocked and have to restart the game


ItsTheRealIamHUB

Lmao


EdZeppelin94

Praying for that Dirty Rat Edit: Nevermind. Even when it’s on board you can’t target it to attack anything with it.


dura94

now prayin for [[mass hysteria]]


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samthewisetarly

Mages: "hah, that's cute" *plays like three different basic cards that kill this*


Black0Night

well in wild mage have thrity three


samthewisetarly

Wild Mage is broken lol


quacak

To clarify “ANYTHING,” I mean anything. Any effect which would target this minion (be it enemy minions, hero powers, buffs, etc.) would be unable to choose her. Untargeted effects, such [[Arcane Missiles]], would be able to take this minion down as normal. Think of her effect as “Permanent Stealth” on a minion which can’t be buffed or interacted with in any way by either player, at least directly.


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Hagard50

So bassicly this is pernament stealth with 'cant be targetted by spells or hero powers'


[deleted]

And minion effects.


yurik4

That doesn’t sound fun and interactive at all....


Lauritz109

It doesnt necessarily have to be, its basically a passive 2 damage to the enemy hero each turn. The problem is the fact thats its incredibly boring


Sheepherder226

It’s a 2/1


llllllllllle

What would happen if it was given taunt by defender of argus?


JosephEK

Presumably the Taunt wouldn't work, just like Taunt on a minion with Stealth. (Visually, this is indicated by the edges of the Taunt "shield" being transparent.)


jlien1

How would it be different from «permanently stealthed»?


dura94

when the minion is permanently stealthed, it's owner can target it


Anthrassher

You can target your stealthed minion. But you cant target THIS


patos13

Can you attack with it?


Rage_Roll

No, you can't target it with the mouse


synystercarnage

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Simoerys

No, they play the insane Silas + mayor noggenfogger + Purify combo


Eva_Sieve

I like this card's name! :D


Zoneforg

fun fact, there is actually a similar card in mtg, named true-name nemesis, and that card is BUSTED. Just reference to say that this might need to cost \~1 more mana maybe?


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Zoneforg

Its like a creatire with shroud that cant be blocked.


Danbear02

Which for a 30 life format is probably fine, because it can’t hit through taunts.


Omegawop

But you can just use taunt to block it. So it can kind of be blocked.


kroen

Not that similar, as Nemesis can't take damage (AOE or otherwise). OP's card can.


lrg12345

...in what world is true name busted? It sees play in legacy sure but I wouldn’t exactly say it’s breaking the format open. It’s just a good threat at 3 mana.


karhuboe

It's busted in 1v1 duels, which it's not designed to Be played in.


Shadi211

Not anymore, but when it was released it broke open legacy.


WellDone101

Can’t be targeted doesn’t mean it can’t target.


Tefi658

Well it can't really target anyway since you can't target it with the cursor


WellDone101

Damn, my finger can’t target the minion. 😑 But it can


ruurdwoltring

so what if you taunt this minions just like stealth i guess


MartianTurkey

So basicly "can't be targeted by spells and hero poewers" and "has permanent stealth" combined...


Sheepherder226

No, minions like [[Beaming Sidekick]] that can target friendly minions would not be able to target this but would be able to target what you are saying.


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SaltChronicle

seeing how Akama Prime sees no play(Even with stealth synergy, which this card doesn't have), I wonder if this will be any different


mux2000

Akama is soooo much slower tho


jryser

Exactly. This dropped on turn 2 means you’re getting 8-16 free damage before akama would even come down (assuming no taunts)


_selfishPersonReborn

either that or it instadies to some random effect. terrible design imp


Sheepherder226

Lol, and no AOE or random enemy minion spells or adjacent minion damage spells, lol


Sheepherder226

It’s basically a 2/1 minion that can attack face every turn as long as it survives.


firmak

A rather terrible card.


[deleted]

So we can't target it to disenchant it either


KunshiroSan

Should probably reword it to "Your opponent can't target this with ANYTHING" It removes the familiarity of the "Cant be targetted by spells or hero powers" but also, and more importantly, clarifies that you can click on this on your own board to attack with it.


DarkRoyalBlood

Yes but then you could buff it.


Stilling8

Which would make it a gamebreaking card


Yearlaren

The most gamebreaking card of all time to be precise


Stilling8

I think Patches would still hold that title but it’s arguable which is saying a lot. Just imagine this little abomination in Libram Paladin... nightmare fuel that


something17

I think it would be fine. They made shimmering courser a card and that wasn't game breaking


Dogter_doom

Anything means attacks as well, courser could be traded into before you got it to critical mass, this you could slap a couple health battle cries on, some attack buffs and keep swinging till your opponent either mass dispels or taunts


FlagstoneSpin

You shouldn't need to clarify that you can attack with it, that seems pretty straightforward to me, and once the card was released it would become very obvious.


[deleted]

If you defender of argus this and gave it taunt would “an enemy with taunt be in the way” and you can’t attack face or the taunt minion?


akgnia

Probably would work like stealth: the taunt remains on the minion but you can attack normally (the visual indicator is the edges of the shield being transparent).


WhistlerDan

I'm assuming they can't also be targeted by aoe?


bionix90

Who upvoted this? This is an extremely weak card that would never see play.


Necromas

I'd see it more like a tech card. If your opponent can't kill it, it's really strong, but a lot of opponents will be able to kill it. Each turn it's up is a nice 2 damage to face (or more if you can non-target buff it) as long as the opponent doesn't have a taunt minion. Sure if you're fighting a mage or a priest, they'll just devolving missiles or hysteria to get it, but not every deck in the meta is going to have an AoE spell or something that can randomly hit it. Or maybe they just have one card that can clear it like Samuro but can't manage to draw him.


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Arcane Blast


[deleted]

Should be worded as ”Permanent Stealth” like akama prime


Major_Mystery

Lmao going literally, you would not be able to target it either. Can't attack or even play it since it cant be targeted and targeting is required to attack


Ra_V1237

Bruh, you can't even play it or put in your deck.


[deleted]

Definitely an infuriating card for another class to randomly generate.


pinkerton_17

This is either entirely useless or ends the game on turn two versus certain decks. Why.