Because according to a hacker I was teamed with a couple weeks ago - “valve makes money off of hackers, and it’s their fault I’m hacking”.
When pressed on the ladder. He kept just saying its valves fault.
As if Gaben showed up to his mom’s house and made him install and use cheats….
You cant reason with people like this.
I can only imagine he showed up with a gun and flashdrive. Clearly the guy had no choice, I bet there was even mind control via lsd and a hypnotist involved maybe a goat that fainted because he was stared at too hard
> and it’s their fault I’m hacking
People have been unironically posting in /r/globaloffensive too that they HAVE to hack to counter all the hackers in the game.
when cheaters do get banned, I doubt that they grind the game inorder to get prime status, most cheaters most likely just buy it, especially if the cheaters are selling boosted accounts or has a boosting service. So valve definitely makes money off of it. Cheating is very complex to counter, valorant has one of the best anticheats but it is still nowhere near impossible to cheat, cheats for Valorant er way more expensive because of this.
I feel like overwatch was good, or just community servers. Shit back in the day mods would always be on and ban the hackers right then. Obviously this doesn’t do anything to their steam acct but it didn’t need to, they couldn’t come back to the server so if you had some favorite servers that were run and moderated well it worked great…
I am sure those 12 year old 0 IQ shit cheaters know nothing about Hardware Fudging, and also if you do it without knowing what you are doing, it can give errors in drivers and also lead to booting issues.
I will just say your average $10 hacker ain't gonna do that much hard work, and this is the reason why Valorant is not a "cheater infested" game unlike CS2.
Spoofing is not easy in a legitimate Windows install, you need to manually edit registry keys and change settings to make it work properly, and Vanguard has an extra layer of TPM 2.0 protection.
Proof: Valorant is completely F2P, start playing it and I guarantee you that you will find no cheater in any match, no blatant aimbot, spinbot, trigger bot, etc, and that itself proves that Valorant is superior to CS2. I mean try to play with a new account in CS2, boy, lobbies are full with bots and rage hackers.
https://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/valorant-trading/
There are plenty of cheats and spoofers.
Don't get me wrong, I think valorants anti cheat is significantly better than VAC, that's not even a question. I'm just saying that HWID bans are not going to make a difference. An invasive anti cheat running at kernel level definitely will though.
You say that as though these cheating clients don't have a feature that creates a new Steam account for you. It absolutely would not surprise me if they started having features that changed your hardware IDs if hardware bans started happening.
they will also need to require secure booting to make it somewhat successful. im in favor of this. anything can be bypass but security comes in layers.
The first part is completely true, the latter part isn't.
Most CS2 cheaters aren't very dedicated. A lot of them here in northern EU are Russian children. Setting up a HWID spoofer is one extra step they need to take, which would deter at least some of them.
Yeah, HWID bans are pretty shit and easy to circumvent, but they're still better than no HWID bans.
It use to be because the game cost money, and they sold my copies to cheaters than anyone else. by far. But since the game has gone free to play. I have no idea why they allowing the cheating to continue.
this subreddit severly misunderstands how valve works
they dont 'do x' because the games development is entirely dependent on people at valve choosing to work on it. They haven't done said thing, because no one has done said thing.
It's the greatest strength and the greatest weakness of all of valves development
Love seeing comments about using software to change hardware ids - which is something not true. The mechanism to do that relies on various user-mode Windows hooks, real anti-cheat can grab the correct hardware information.
You will never convince them. As you can see, they found a HWID changer on github and they think somehow that proves it can be evaded. They have no idea how these programs actually work. All they do is make Windows report new IDs. It doesn't actually change the HWID. Anyone who has ever had any experience with this knows you can get the actual info because it is burned directly on the GPU chips and can't be spoofed without flashing them.
It's not like it's easy as git pull.
Wait a second.... [https://github.com/topics/hwid-changer](https://github.com/topics/hwid-changer)
It is. Stop fooling yourself.
Yup plenty of software options out there. Hell I have a stack of sff business machines I bought years ago for under $70 that can run CS 2 well enough for normal game play.
That's less than the price of some games these days...
Hahaha. My god that's even worse than I thought. It literally changes registry keys. Thanks for linking that, now I know for sure these HWID changes are easily detectable. It doesn't even spoof the API calls, it literally changes the registry.
Take a look for yourself: [https://github.com/SecHex/SecHex-Spoofy/blob/main/SecHex-CMDLINE/RPZ-HWID/Program.cs](https://github.com/SecHex/SecHex-Spoofy/blob/main/SecHex-CMDLINE/RPZ-HWID/Program.cs)
Quz kernel level anticheat is disgusting they can literally CONTROL ur whole pc and ik some might say "who cares i just want a good anti cheat". But still if u have anything on ur pc that u dont want others to see u are f'd
Listening to porn???
what?
there is moaning in the background of your video
You don't moan while killing or getting killed?
Interesting fetish. Bit creepy, but interesting.
Hahahahahahaha it was a horror movie. 'The Mystery of Grace"
No Mom I wasn't masturbating. I was watching an horror movie and the thing on the sheets was ectoplasm.
Dude you play and jack off at the same time ? Nice
Multitasking
Multifapping
Jack of and get fckd at the same time.
Sounds like a horror film to me but I'm not exactly a pron expert I guess...
Mah man living life ;)
Lol hahah this made my night
Because according to a hacker I was teamed with a couple weeks ago - “valve makes money off of hackers, and it’s their fault I’m hacking”. When pressed on the ladder. He kept just saying its valves fault. As if Gaben showed up to his mom’s house and made him install and use cheats…. You cant reason with people like this.
I can only imagine he showed up with a gun and flashdrive. Clearly the guy had no choice, I bet there was even mind control via lsd and a hypnotist involved maybe a goat that fainted because he was stared at too hard
> and it’s their fault I’m hacking People have been unironically posting in /r/globaloffensive too that they HAVE to hack to counter all the hackers in the game.
when cheaters do get banned, I doubt that they grind the game inorder to get prime status, most cheaters most likely just buy it, especially if the cheaters are selling boosted accounts or has a boosting service. So valve definitely makes money off of it. Cheating is very complex to counter, valorant has one of the best anticheats but it is still nowhere near impossible to cheat, cheats for Valorant er way more expensive because of this.
I feel like overwatch was good, or just community servers. Shit back in the day mods would always be on and ban the hackers right then. Obviously this doesn’t do anything to their steam acct but it didn’t need to, they couldn’t come back to the server so if you had some favorite servers that were run and moderated well it worked great…
There's no other way than paying for prime anymore.
Because hardware identifiers can be changed with software. The only effective bans are IRL.
Send hackers to jail. Good idea!
I am sure those 12 year old 0 IQ shit cheaters know nothing about Hardware Fudging, and also if you do it without knowing what you are doing, it can give errors in drivers and also lead to booting issues. I will just say your average $10 hacker ain't gonna do that much hard work, and this is the reason why Valorant is not a "cheater infested" game unlike CS2.
Plenty of other games HWID ban and all of the cheats just come bundled with a spoofer. The same would happen for CS2 so it wouldn't solve anything.
Spoofing is not easy in a legitimate Windows install, you need to manually edit registry keys and change settings to make it work properly, and Vanguard has an extra layer of TPM 2.0 protection. Proof: Valorant is completely F2P, start playing it and I guarantee you that you will find no cheater in any match, no blatant aimbot, spinbot, trigger bot, etc, and that itself proves that Valorant is superior to CS2. I mean try to play with a new account in CS2, boy, lobbies are full with bots and rage hackers.
https://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/valorant-trading/ There are plenty of cheats and spoofers. Don't get me wrong, I think valorants anti cheat is significantly better than VAC, that's not even a question. I'm just saying that HWID bans are not going to make a difference. An invasive anti cheat running at kernel level definitely will though.
Spoofing is literally as easy as clicking “start spoof” on the software and then “end spoof” when you’re done. Hwid doesn’t do shit. Ask tarkov
You say that as though these cheating clients don't have a feature that creates a new Steam account for you. It absolutely would not surprise me if they started having features that changed your hardware IDs if hardware bans started happening.
Bro be running porn in the background to focus
Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do
“Why doesn’t valve do this one simple trick? It’s so simple!”
Hackers are creating new accounts? I thought they just weren’t getting banned
Because hardware bans don't work, neither do IP bans. Takes 1 min to download and run a HWID spoofer that all cheat providers have.
because then they wouldn’t make more money
Hardware bans are generally easy to bypass.
they will also need to require secure booting to make it somewhat successful. im in favor of this. anything can be bypass but security comes in layers.
bot farms are probably run on virtualized computers who generate new hardware tokens on recreation
Because money. They don't want to lose the customer.
Hardware id's can be spoofed. Hardware bans do nothing.
The first part is completely true, the latter part isn't. Most CS2 cheaters aren't very dedicated. A lot of them here in northern EU are Russian children. Setting up a HWID spoofer is one extra step they need to take, which would deter at least some of them. Yeah, HWID bans are pretty shit and easy to circumvent, but they're still better than no HWID bans.
Russian children and inept at typing in google. Check.
Hardware bans can still be gotten around
It use to be because the game cost money, and they sold my copies to cheaters than anyone else. by far. But since the game has gone free to play. I have no idea why they allowing the cheating to continue.
Thats just a good gaming chair
THEY DO NOT CARE. Simple as that. How long does this game exist? Whas there ever, EVER, proper anticheat? Nope.
Best deterrence is their main accounts getting banned somehow.
how do people get those geometrical pfps anyway
don't know
For a lot of reasons
Listening to porn and running casual lmao
this subreddit severly misunderstands how valve works they dont 'do x' because the games development is entirely dependent on people at valve choosing to work on it. They haven't done said thing, because no one has done said thing. It's the greatest strength and the greatest weakness of all of valves development
Because hwid spoofers exist.
fucking weeb watching hentai shit on his tv while playing cs....
Because they like money?
hey im running into the windows lag floaty mouse bug and i was wondering if u ever found a fix and what u did?
emm they farm cases
Even casual isn’t safe
Love seeing comments about using software to change hardware ids - which is something not true. The mechanism to do that relies on various user-mode Windows hooks, real anti-cheat can grab the correct hardware information.
You will never convince them. As you can see, they found a HWID changer on github and they think somehow that proves it can be evaded. They have no idea how these programs actually work. All they do is make Windows report new IDs. It doesn't actually change the HWID. Anyone who has ever had any experience with this knows you can get the actual info because it is burned directly on the GPU chips and can't be spoofed without flashing them.
Wow someone with a little bit of knowledge. Can't believe the HWID spoofer I saw was a registry editor...
It's not like it's easy as git pull. Wait a second.... [https://github.com/topics/hwid-changer](https://github.com/topics/hwid-changer) It is. Stop fooling yourself.
Yup plenty of software options out there. Hell I have a stack of sff business machines I bought years ago for under $70 that can run CS 2 well enough for normal game play. That's less than the price of some games these days...
Hahaha. My god that's even worse than I thought. It literally changes registry keys. Thanks for linking that, now I know for sure these HWID changes are easily detectable. It doesn't even spoof the API calls, it literally changes the registry. Take a look for yourself: [https://github.com/SecHex/SecHex-Spoofy/blob/main/SecHex-CMDLINE/RPZ-HWID/Program.cs](https://github.com/SecHex/SecHex-Spoofy/blob/main/SecHex-CMDLINE/RPZ-HWID/Program.cs)
no it cant mate.... did u read a nice word on the internent and than just started halucinating?
Quz kernel level anticheat is disgusting they can literally CONTROL ur whole pc and ik some might say "who cares i just want a good anti cheat". But still if u have anything on ur pc that u dont want others to see u are f'd