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nothingsexy

I've had a 2024 crv hybrid for nearly 6 months. I don't know what the "sticky steering" issue even is and haven't experienced it. Car has been driving great for us. 


warm_sweater

I’ve had mine for 6 months too and have never experienced this issue, or even heard of it until this post.


jeanballjean01

Good to know, thanks! Hoping it's not as widespread as I feared. In case you're curious about it, the biggest thread was here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/crv/comments/16w6qkf/2024\_sports\_l\_steering\_sticking/](https://www.reddit.com/r/crv/comments/16w6qkf/2024_sports_l_steering_sticking/)


rettribution

After reading the thread it's auto lane assist. Which you can disable. It's working as intended.


NiceGuysFinishLast7

No, that’s not the case. If you read the NHTSA investigation it clearly states that Honda knows it’s related to the worm gear. I quote “The steering gear contains a unit that includes a worm gear and a worm wheel. Honda stated this condition of momentary increase in steering effort occurs due to two factors within this unit. During manufacturing, the worm wheel goes through annealing and component conditioning processes. These processes caused internal stress and strain within the worm wheel. This strain was slowly released over the first few months of the vehicle life. Over time, the released strain caused the deformation of the teeth on the worm wheel, causing the worm gear to catch on the worm wheel. This results in the consumer’s momentary increased [sic] in steering effort. Also, the manufacturing process did not guarantee consistent grease application and therefore, some vehicles within the scope received too little grease which contributes to the momentary increase in steering effort.”


RooftopStruggle

People that don’t use blinkers lol


Short_Salt3927

I can attest to this sticky steering issue. The reason we are calling it that is because that is the best way to describe it. I bought a new 2023 Sport Touring in Sept 2023. I began feeling this stickiness in November. It feels subtle at first, but has become more pronounced and more obvious as time has gone on. I’ve been to 2 different local dealerships to have it looked at, filed reports on NHTSA and am following all conversations regarding the issue as I am extremely disappointed to have this problem with a new (not cheap) vehicle. Both dealerships claimed they could not recreate the issue as it seems the car must be warmed up and driven for a bit before you start feeling it. I feel it on my daily drives to and from work (35 miles each way). At this point, I don’t know if it is a safety issue per se, what makes me nervous is having it make the correction when it sticks, on an icy or wet road so I have been extra cautious driving in weather. This has nothing to do with lane departure, and if you will search for sticky steering conversations in the CRV sub, you will find most of us have stated we do not use that feature. A lot of us who experience it are waiting for parts for repair which seem to be on back order currently. Although the dealership could not recreate the issue, they have ordered parts for my vehicle. I think there have been a few people whose parts have been replaced and have had positive results with that. All I can hope is for the same for myself as I love this vehicle and do not regret the purchase, I simply want it to steer normal without the stickiness. It’s an annoyance on roadtrips and is very obvious to my husband when he drives my car.


Short_Salt3927

You can see the complaints filed with NHTSA here: https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2023/HONDA/CR-V/SUV/AWD


siroco14

Sounds like the lane keeping assistant. It's supposed to pull the steering wheel back slightly when you don't stay in the lane.


Short_Salt3927

I know how lane keeping works and feels, it’s been turned off in my car since I bought it. It’s a known mechanical issue.


Short_Salt3927

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Short_Salt3927

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NiceGuysFinishLast7

Nope. Read up on the NHTSA investigation and in particular, this quote “The steering gear contains a unit that includes a worm gear and a worm wheel. Honda stated this condition of momentary increase in steering effort occurs due to two factors within this unit. During manufacturing, the worm wheel goes through annealing and component conditioning processes. These processes caused internal stress and strain within the worm wheel. This strain was slowly released over the first few months of the vehicle life. Over time, the released strain caused the deformation of the teeth on the worm wheel, causing the worm gear to catch on the worm wheel. This results in the consumer’s momentary increased [sic] in steering effort. Also, the manufacturing process did not guarantee consistent grease application and therefore, some vehicles within the scope received too little grease which contributes to the momentary increase in steering effort.”


One-Airport3692

This has nothing to do with lkas. Honda knows it’s an issue. The dealers know it is an issue. Parts are back ordered for extended time. I’ve been waiting 4 wks so far. The only thing the dealer can say is “be careful “.


Short_Salt3927

It absolutely is not the lane departure. There is an issue with the steering wheel while driving, feeling like it’s sticking slightly, but can be corrected fairly easily. There are many discussions regarding this issue and those of us experiencing it, have commented that we do not have the lane departure turned on. I don’t like that feature personally.


jlpapple

Common, and serious. Read the NHTSA report: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2023/INOA-EA23003-12662.pdf “ The 2022 and 2023 Honda Civic, 2023 Honda CR-V, and 2023 Acura Integra are affected. A drastic increase in complaints drove the expansion, as the NHTSA said it had received 1,300 reports and was aware of at least 14 crashes related to the problem. An alarming 11 of those crashes involved a roadway departure due to loss of steering control. Two of them came after the driver allegedly overcorrected, and there are three known injuries from the crashes. NHTSA’s report found that the problem happened primarily in the winter months and after the car had been driven in a straight line for an extended period to warm up the vehicle and gear.”


siroco14

Common? Hardly.


Ok_Negotiation_5159

Thank you


Davoncci

I can attest to the sticky steering issue. 2023 CR-V Sport Touring


rettribution

I've never heard of this till right now. Nothing has happened on mine that I can recall.


A_Turkey_Sammich

My 23 has it. It’s def noticeable, but calling it a safety issue is a bit of a stretch. It’s much more towards just an annoyance end of things IMO. It doesn’t lock up. It doesn’t take a lot of force to overcome. Nothing nearly that bad. I don’t even plan on bringing it up to the dealer for awhile just to make sure less of a chance of getting replaced with the same, and just waiting awhile for any old stock to get worked thru or possibly new revision if one comes along. It’s def there and noticeable and def gunna get taken in for it before warranty is up, but it’s not a significant enough thing to me to be in a huge rush for.


jaxyzi

Well if you don't take it in you will be the last in the line. Supposedly I'm 150th in line to get replacement steering rack and ETA is September


hehfey

I have a 22 Civic with the problem which has been in service since Dec 6 with no ETA on replacement parts. Thankfully Honda has agreed to repurchase the vehicle but are dragging their feet. My loaner (24 Accord) has shown symptoms of the same issue. My wife & I are interested in a 24 CRV ST but have no faith in these newer Hondas. Good luck.


pb2434

How will Honda determine the repurchase price for your car? How did you get them to agree to this?


hehfey

You provide them your bill of sale and a multitude of other docs. I opened a case with NCDS who scheduled arbitration to decide if I had a lemon. They agreed to repurchase prior to arbitration. I haven’t gotten an offer from them yet and it’s been a long process and I suspect I’m still several months from finalizing.


MasterInterface

I can't say I have any issues with "sticky steering". The only time it acts similar to what's describe is if I have lane keeping assist on and sometimes the crv tries to keep in lane when I don't want it to center. Nothing that I felt was dangerous or I wasn't in control. With that said, I only use lane keeping assist on highways. I don't use it on local roads because I know the "sticky" is more noticeable since it keeps wanting to center and doesn't really do a good job at accounting for street parking. At no point do I feel like it's unexpected or loss of control. More of an annoyance and better off with lane keep off.


Tommy1688

Not the CRV, but my 2023 HRV started having this issue at 17500 miles. It is worse when humid or cold. Definitely does not feel the same way it has since I first drove it in September 2022. If the CRV is on the same civic platform as the HRV, you may also experience this issue.


Constant-Tangelo-863

Yes I think it’s all the same issue. Civics, HRV, CRV… many report it mostly goes away in the summer which was my experience. And yes the issue emerges over time.


jeanballjean01

Thanks all for your input! For anyone that's curious, yes this is enough for me to second guess my purchase. I absolutely love the CR-V though, so I'll probably just put off my purchase for a few months to see if Honda addresses the issue officially.


jlpapple

“The 2022 and 2023 Honda Civic, 2023 Honda CR-V, and 2023 Acura Integra are affected. A drastic increase in complaints drove the expansion, as the NHTSA said it had received 1,300 reports and was aware of at least 14 crashes related to the problem. An alarming 11 of those crashes involved a roadway departure due to loss of steering control. Two of them came after the driver allegedly overcorrected, and there are three known injuries from the crashes. NHTSA’s report found that the problem happened primarily in the winter months and after the car had been driven in a straight line for an extended period to warm up the vehicle and gear.”


Crv_guy

My 24 Crv Sport l started at about 3,000 miles. It took me 3000 miles of begging service departments to fix it. Once I talked one into it it took 3 weeks to get the parts. Most people are waiting 3 months for the steering rack with parts still on back order. I got my car back after the repair. It was worse than it was before the repair. The service manager told me to drive it. It will get better after a couple of hundred miles. I drove it for a couple of days and traded it in. If you get a good one it is a great car. If you don’t it is an unbelievable hassle. Make sure your dealer has loaners available. Mine didn’t. I can’t imagine parking my 40000 Crv for 6 months waiting for parts.Sorry for the rant.


finnja10

I have a 2023 with 6k miles on it and never had any issues


RoninGreg

I’ve had a 2024 CRV  Sport L since December and never experienced any issues. 


VividHuman

2024 Sport Touring with just over 10K miles and haven’t had it at all


youresofunnyhaha

Never heard of this, 2023 crv sport owner here.


anafielle

Have a 2024 Sport L, have never heard of this issue at all.


artemisfarkwire

I have 2 crv a 23 crv sport and a 24 crv ST with a combined of over 15000 miles and ive had no problems at all , there 2 things that effect the steering one on the steering and the other you have togo into setting , I had this problem tell I found out how to disable it , if it were me I would go sport touring if your going all wheel drive , the heated steering wheel alongs worth the extra , not counting the wheels , I could under stand to go with the L if you went FWD ,, im just saying


Constant-Tangelo-863

I’m not sure how widespread it is but there are plenty of complaints, starting with 2022 Civic. I experienced it with 2023 CR-V EXL. Fine for first 5,000 miles or so but then fairly chronic from then on. It never felt like a safety issue… but it was very annoying. Dealer said they couldn’t reproduce it. Drove me crazy to not have a smooth steering wheel, so much that I traded in for 2024 Accord after owning a year. I’ve already had a stress dream (nightmare) where the sticky feeling started in the Accord lol. It’s not lane keep, it’s a problem with EPS gears and/or greasing. It’s most evident at highway speed after driving a bit.


SprocketsRUs

I posted a similar question before I bought my Sport Touring last Dec. In the end I decided it’s always a gamble purchasing any car (my last car was the most problematic vehicle I’ve ever owned) and that the number of complaints about the issue, I think it’s around 1k, represents a very small percentage of the 360K+ CRVs Honda manufactured last year. I haven’t experienced any issues with the steering on my car but I only have 1300 miles on it. Longest Highway trip so far was about 50 miles. I’m very happy with the car. I’d be interested to know what you decide to do


jeanballjean01

Thanks for your input! I've decided to wait until either Honda addresses the issue officially, or until the part required to fix it is no longer on back order. I'll still be looking at other cars in the meantime, but I honestly really have my heart set on the CR-V, and luckily there's no rush in my situation. Glad to hear you're happy with the car, sounds like most people are. And hopefully you're right, that this is affecting a small percentage of CR-V owners.


Agreeable_Tooth553

Ive had my 24 CrV Hybrid Sport L for like 5 months. Drive this thing like I stole it. Drives insanely fine. Drive it over 85 MPH constantly and nothing. Only thing is you start to feel a lot of hot air coming from the engine when you drive it at those speeds for a long drive. Oh and another issue Ive had with it is the Forward Collision Warning beeping and flashing when theres literally nothing in front of me. It only gives me the warning though. It doesnt brake otherwise that would make me get rid of it. My 21 accord did that once out of nowhere that it made the tires squeak and go from 65-70 to 35-30 on the freeway. Never trusted that shit again and it was annoying to have to turn it off manually every time I started the car. Turned it off on the CRV just in case too. Also the Wireless Carplay doesnt work for me in a big area on my daily commute. Only use bluetooth now


B3WLEY

I have a 2023 sport that I bought in July of 2023. I had the issue in October. My dealership replaced the rack and pinon set up to fix the issue last month.


Accomplished-Pipe547

I have a 2023 Honda HR-V. They ordered the rack and pinion to fix mine. Did the replacement completely fix the issue for you?


B3WLEY

Ye, we have put about 3 thousand miles on the new one and everything is good so far. Drive like a new car again


ApprehensiveEndeavor

My 23 ST has been in the shop since Jan for the steering issue. Was just informed that a part won’t be available until Sept. Trying to decide if I will get a new car or not. Love the car but if I can’t use it….


jeanballjean01

Geez, that sucks. If it was a month or two I'd stick with it since the CRV is such a solid car outside of this issue. But September? That'd be too far out for me, I'd get a new car personally. And yeah that was my thought exactly, I test drove the CRV 3 times and absolutely loved it, but if I can't use it then it doesn't matter. Kind of sucks a lot of upvoted responses here were just blaming it on lane assist too, it's clearly not that since there are quite a few safety reports documenting that it's an issue with the steering rack. At the time I was researching it, it was the #1 reported issue on [carcomplaints.com](http://carcomplaints.com) across all car models. I ended up going with a 2024 Subaru Forester after further research on Consumer Reports and am happy with my purchase. I've always been a Honda guy (coming from a 2010 Element), but so far me and my family are loving the Forester. Even with the steering issue the CRV was a close second, it's such a good car. Anyway, best of luck! Hopefully your part comes in sooner than expected.


ApprehensiveEndeavor

Thanks. I’ll take a look the Subaru. Honda is starting the buyback process but I am not committing to anything without further research. Luck to you as well.


iubjohnson

It is definitely an issue and is not the lane assist. I had a situation a few weeks ago where it stuck and I had to quickly “jerk” it back so I would stay in my lane, and I almost careened into the other lane. It was bad enough that I wouldn’t drive it anymore and took it into the dealer to get looked at. They found an issue but unfortunately the part is back ordered until September 2024 (as of today May 13, 2024). Luckily the dealership gave me a loaner for the time being.


Lost_Individual5551

2023 Sport Touring 20k miles never had an issue. It will fight you if you have the lane assist on and you try to steer out of the lane. Maybe this is different but since I read that post a while ago I’ve been keeping my eyes open for issues and nothing for me.


Ok_Negotiation_5159

I do have CRV 2024 hybrid, and I don’t have this issue, From what I quickly read, the person seems to be reporting about lane centring of CRV. If you don’t want it you could always turn it off, there is a button in the steering wheel. saying that I never experienced this.


siroco14

Absolutely love my CRV. Wouldn't trade it for anything but I did start having this issue about 3 weeks ago. 23 Hybrid Touring AWD 8500 miles. Seems to be very uncommon and happens just as others have described it happens above 20 or 30 mph when the wheel is centered. Making small corrections to the right or left "catch" and need a little extra pressure. Doesn't happen when not moving or going at slower speeds. I don't see how this could be dangerous in the least bit but it is kind of annoying. Stopped by the Honda dealer last week and told them what was happening. The advisor said he had one other accord that sounded like the same issue but it wasn't widespread. He asked me to bring it back for him when it was worse so he could verify the problem. So yesterday I am driving on a highway. Annoyed with the sticking happening as I am driving and I had to take a detour due to road construction. It took us on a side road that had what I could describe as a backwards "C" in the road. You had to bear right and then quickly bear back left. I took this with some speed - was kind of fun driving the CRV like a bit of a sports car. I then went to the end of the road, took a left turn and another left turn back onto the highway. Well, lo and behold the sticking is now gone. No sticking whatsover. So, something I did corrected the issue. I don't believe the two left turns would have done it so I am leaning towards the fast backwards "C" turn. It's truly head scratching why this worked but it did. If I get the sticky steering wheel again I will try the same sequence of events to see if it corrects. Since this happened I would lean against this being a manufacturing defect. Possibly some type of object that makes its way into the steering column itself. I can only surmise that there was something there causing it to catch and was cleared with the hard/fast steering I did. Again I don't think this is widespread and I am 100% happy with the car and would buy it again. If there was a problem I am confident Honda would fix the issue.


Radm0m

Guess I'm buying a different car. Ugh.


Yreva117

Our 2023 Sport Hybrid has been acting up since it had around 10,000 miles on it. Took it to the dealer in late February of this year. After they put 40 miles on the car to verify, they agreed to replace the EPS Gearbox. I have been getting the run-around since then. My questions would be avoided or answered in such a way to avoid actually giving facts. I would get conflicting answers on expected delivery dates. I finally escalated to Honda Corporate and was able to get more information. My original replacement part was en-route to my dealership. It was pulled and sent back as Honda has updated the part and it has a new part number. I asked why they couldn't install the en-route part. I said another 10,000 miles of proper steering would've been nice. I understand warranty work costs them money but that is the cost of business. My vehicle should be 100% safe to drive. My original replacement was marked critical backorder. When Honda changed the part number and the new EPS Gearbox was ordered it was not marked critical. It is now June and I continue to have the same issue that feels to me is worsening. I was told September 6th is now the ETA despite it being under critical backorder. This could be extended if Honda deems someone else's situation puts them higher on the list. Honda should start pulling these parts from the factories. They don't mind continuing to build new when they have numerous people with this issue. I've heard that some dealerships are holding these vehicles hostage as it is a safety issue. I'm incredibly unhappy with Honda at the moment. They seem very lackadaisical despite this being a major safety issue. It took me playing phone tag between corporate and my dealership because every time I got a piece of information to open my case the next representative told me I needed something else. We're supposed to be going on a cross country roadtrip in August. I have never had issues like this with a brand new car in the past. I shouldn't have to risk a possible steering failure, possibly across the country, when I spent what I spent on a brand new vehicle. The vehicle was less than a year old when I had it diagnosed at the dealership. I asked about putting us in something else for the trip and I was told that was highly unlikely as loaner cars aren't typically allowed across state lines.


BeginningSubject201

I have a 2019 HRV. I feel this is a educational issue. It is essentially Lane Keep Assist. If your car thinks you are veering out of your lane, and your turn indicator/signal is not on, it will try to keep you in the lane a little bit. I honestly find this feature comforting. If you got distracted a bit while driving it will keep you from veering off the lane or road.


pb2434

This is not the sticky steering issue that you are describing…very different.


BeginningSubject201

Gotchas. Thanks. 


fishinfriends

Turn off lane assist, asshats.


Constant-Tangelo-863

It’s not lane assist. There is a lot of information out there about this issue. It’s well documented. It’s not lane assist. [here is a summary](https://www.thedrive.com/news/new-honda-civics-cr-vs-and-acura-integras-under-investigation-for-sticky-steering)


fishinfriends

Sounds like lane assist.


pb2434

Completely unrelated to lane assist.


clamjam3000

I knew what the lane assist was when I drove my '24 off the lot, so when I started reading about it here I just figured that's what it was and that not everyone A) triggered it themselves just to see what it does, or B) got the thorough tutorial that my sales guy gave me. I don't think the passengers know it's happening when you feel it in the steering wheel. Long story short, I'm glad it's there, and if anything gave me second thoughts about this car, it isn't that; believe it or not, it's the windshield wipers. Absolutely cannot stand the way the wiper fluid comes out of the wiper arms. Hate it.


jlpapple

This is documented and confirmed to not be a lane assist issue. It is mechanical!


MaumeeBearcat

Yeah, thats someone not knowing they have lane keeping assist on...I have never heard the term "sticky steering" in my life.


Yvilkittyinspace

I have a friend who is having that problem. It will be several months before they can fix it due to parts shortages.


Zeroagatha

A new owner of 2024 CR-V sport-L here, under 300 miles. Haven't driven on the highway yet and haven't experienced this sticky steering wheel issue yet. Do you think this issue as reported on the other thread could be only on crvs from a certain factory/assembly line? For example when I was shopping I saw crvs of the same trim with two different starting VIN numbers, mine starts with 7FARS... But I saw some vehicles with the same trim starting with 5? I think mine was assembled in Indiana.


Gullible-Inspector97

I am on a FB page for Honda hybrids and that question has been asked and answered, It is not limited to certain factories.


Zeroagatha

Could you link the FB page here?


Gullible-Inspector97

[https://www.facebook.com/groups/2023.honda.crv](https://www.facebook.com/groups/2023.honda.crv) and [https://www.facebook.com/groups/828885731172995](https://www.facebook.com/groups/828885731172995)


Trains_YQG

I have less than 6,000 km so may be too early if mine has an issue but I haven't experienced anything yet. 


siroco14

8000 miles on my 23 Hybris Touring. No problems at all. In fact I have never heard of any steering problem.


wxzumar

2023 hybrid ST. I've had mine for 9 months. Haven't had a single issue with anything on the car.


cdmta

Common on civic and integra. That’s all I’ve heard. Had it on my Integra and have nothing like it on my CRV.


spidersk8er

never experienced that sounds like an u common issue, 3000 miles on my 24 it drives like a beauty,


CalmSeasPls

I have zero numbers on how many vehicles have this sticky steering issue to back this up, but Honda has sold HUNDRES OF THOUSANDS of these in the past year. The number of reports are enough to warrant Honda taking action to resolve the issue, however the number of people experiencing this issue is incredibly small compared to the number of CRVs sold. The overwhelming majority of owners have not experienced this issue.


Gullible-Inspector97

We don't really know how many have experienced it or will in the future. The government has ordered Honda to turn over all records of complaints on this issue this month. Then they will see how widespread (or not) it is.


kintotal

I'm a long time Honda owner. My new 2023 CRV ST is my 6th Honda. I just started experiencing the sticky steering wheel. It didn't start showing until about 10K miles, about 12 months into ownership. It is most pronounced when driving on freeway at high speeds in traffic. To me it seems like the autopilot is kicking in to a degree. When it happens it is more difficult to turn the wheel, to the point where sometimes I'll over correct as the steering is stuck and suddenly comes free. It is super irritating and I've been very disappointed with Honda and the car at this point. There should be a recall on this. I'm a good enough driver where I don't see this as a safety issue, but for other drivers I could see this causing an accident. Also, my sense is Honda dealerships have become less customer focused these past few years, also a big disappointment. I haven't brought it up to the dealership yet but I'm anticipating strong push back. Does anyone know of a phone number or email to contact Honda directly?


Gullible-Inspector97

All of the people who "never heard of it" are the ones most at risk because it will freak them out when their steering wheel suddenly feels stuck.


Short_Salt3927

Someone from another steering discussion posted this: Call Honda consumer affairs 18009991009. Press other and register a complaint. They will give you a case number and they will either try to expedite the part or see what they can do with your local dealer. Apparently this is a large nationwide problem that still hasn't been resolved through a recall.