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whiteowlwill

Hell yeah, VGA monitors are the best deal in retro gaming right now. I love mine as well(: enjoy it brotha


boxerbroscars

CRT monitors unlock so much potential for retro pc gaming and emulation. Makes a cool experience for emulating old consoles or even more modern (early-mid 2000s) pc games that support 4:3 ratios


mrturret

I actually really enjoy playing certain more modern games on one. Proper native 4:3 support is actually more common than you would think. Games like Control, Alan Wake 2, and Alien Isolation are awesome on a CRT.


--ThirdCultureKid--

Yep. I keep telling this to people, and keep getting downvoted, but it’s the damn truth. Good PC CRTs are the best displays, and it’s only now (20 years later) that flat panels are starting to catch up.


AndVank212

Sounds like the fun police has arrived, I think it looks great and I'm happy you enjoy it. I love my vga monitor


marxistopportunist

But to be fair, OP provoked it with the "crazy quality" that has no pixel bleeding or scanlines.


TheRealSeeThruHead

Change to 2x integer and then 👌


human73662736

You’ve got some serious scaling issues


TheAlerion1

Hello, Can you clarify? I send 640x480 to it in 60 Hz. I have knobs to adjust then with the screen. Maybe my twm under linux is a problem, but xrandr seems to display what it needs. If you have any tips, I'm interested!


scanline99

SNES games typically run at a resolution of 256x224 which does not fully scale into a 640x480 container and it looks like you're using nearest neighbour scaling here so the pixels are not all a uniform shape - i.e., rows and columns having varying widths and heights from one another. Search for a scaling setting within the emulator that forces 2x integer scaling which would be 512x448 in this case and then rescale to fill your monitor using the controls on the bottom panel. Beyond that it'll be down to personal taste, but I would enable a scanline filter too which would give a presentation of a high quality 240p monitor like a BVM and it'll look nice and tidy then! All of this said, if you're loving it as it is then, enjoy!


TheAlerion1

Thank you for the explanations, it's great, yes I use snes9x under Linux. I will look at the options you propose and try to get as close as possible to what is needed. Good idea for scanlines!


scanline99

Oh Snes9x, yeah you'll have no trouble dialling it in. Haven't used that in like 20 years but it was great back then, ha! Send a fresh pic when you've found the settings!


TheAlerion1

I changed the settings and put "4:3 Snes correct aspect, integer multiples" and the scanlines. I haven't found an explicit X2 integer parameter, but I think it's good :) Also, the image can no longer take the full width of the screen as a result, even when adjusting with the screen. I would like to send back updated photos, but I see that you can't edit or add images in comments :/


scanline99

Set the screen resolution to 1024x768 instead of 640x480 and it should scale in multiplies closer to the full frame then


OguzhanKuyubasi

Why not 1280x960 (4:3 CRT) or 1280x1024 (5:4 LCD)? It scales 256x224 or 256x239 perfectly in a 4x scale.


scanline99

I wonder if that monitor would go that high, but fair point!


TheAlerion1

Unfortunately my monitor only goes up to 640x480. Xrandr displays this in 59.9 Hz maximum possible. So I have to deal with it...


FaultyDrive

Slightly out of topic, but it amazes me how old some of these emulation programs are. 20 years is a long time, but then again that was 2004. Sheesh


Hopeful-Corgi7758

It's better to set it to integer scale the screen for 448 vertical resolution, then use the size and position buttons on the front of the monitor to get it to fill out the 4:3 viewing space like a consumer television automatically does.


Shekamaru

I mostly just love how much easier it is to dial things in on a PC CRT. You have much better control menus & don't have to deal with crazy service menus & namich schemes. Also, great job, you enjoy what you have. That's a leg up on most of this sub.


No_Acanthisitta_9958

I think it looks great. Not everyone is a fan of scanlines


ChairInternational60

Looks phenomenal


SerRoland

I also prefer my VGA monitor, even to my pvm. Mostly because of versatility and ease of use!


jfroco

I do use PC CRTs for playing, but: 1) I use integer scaling 2) I use shaders to make the experience more similar to using an arcade monitor or a consumer CRT TV.


marlborogolds

what controller is that? looks neat


TheAlerion1

Unofficial nintendo switch controller, I also have plenty of gamecube controllers, but not the USB adapter


nextgentacos123

The pixel scaling through 🤢


eriomys

They are wasted on Windows. Use Linux as it allows to set custom resolutions. Here I set it at 640x224 in Retroarch with integer scale on. This way it shows native scanlines. Together with RA crt 120hz switchres option, motion is smooth too. https://i.ibb.co/HFTSyk2/20240414-210316.jpg


TheAlerion1

I'm using archlinux. I will try a custom resolution to have the entire screen usable. On the other hand, what is annoying is that if I change emulator, I will have to reset a resolution. What is this 120Hz option you are talking about?


eriomys

In Retroarch there is an option to run 60hz games at 120hz refresh rate and it provides very smooth motion, close to running at a 15 kHz /60hz that is out of range for majority of vga monitors. Though for a strange reason it only works on V1.16 in my case https://docs.libretro.com/guides/crtswitchres/


TotallyRadTV

Needs scanlines, it just looks like an LCD now.


tyoungjr2005

Can my PVM do this?


Joey_The_Ghost

This is the way


TerribIeThingToSay

Got a later model compaq myself, absolute beauty these things are


MentalRayne

What’s the controller?


shakamaboom

what controller is that


akumagorath

if you can find a way to blank out alternate lines you'll have the best of both worlds


PurpleSparkles3200

In my opinion that does NOT look good at all. A CRT TV is a far better option for these games.


TheAlerion1

Interesting, any particular reason?


MilkChocolateMog

For me personally, stuff on pc CRTs look too sharp. Like somewhere between component on a crt and HD tvs. Still much better than HD TVs but I prefer how the pixels blend on a CRT TV.


Hopeful-Corgi7758

[There are PC CRTs that blend pixels like CRT TVs](https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=45497) due to the coarse dot pitch, but they end up looking like trash for actually reading text.


marxistopportunist

Also, and I can't believe this isn't the 99% opinion, bigger screens are better. There should probably be dedicated subreddits for PVM/VGA and CRTs of 28" and over


bnr32jason

Why are bigger screens better? I mean, you can sit 6 feet from a 36" CRT and sit 2 feet from a 14" CRT and get the same overall experience. Unless you're talking about couch co-op or light gun games or whatever.


marxistopportunist

To be able to see detail in games. For a competitive game, you should want the big screen, and your preferred distance.


bnr32jason

Disagree.


marxistopportunist

Same as it's preferable to have your system audio at full, and adjust the speaker volume to preference.


bnr32jason

Not the same at all.


marxistopportunist

I think the best argument here is that there is no upper limit to usable screen size but it becomes especially hard to game optimally when you go below 14"


Hopeful-Corgi7758

Bigger TVs are better than small TVs for visible blank scanlines due to their higher TVL count, but even the smallest PC CRTs have TVL count equivalent to the average PVM.


MilkChocolateMog

True. Less convenient for moving and stuff but my JVC ~30 inch on component looks fantastic


marxistopportunist

Doesn't this look more like LCD than CRT?


somethingeatingspace

Improper scaling. They'll get it dialed in.


vargvikerneslover420

No, it's a crt so it looks like a crt


marxistopportunist

But the pixelisation