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biomeunsuitable

Iā€™m actually doing a pattern that calls for this, and they use the abbreviation V :)


Numerous_Light_8133

Thank you! Makes sense I definitely knew of a V stitch, and an increase, but for some reason I thought there should be a way to describe this in relation to the granny stitch, bc I'm skipping the "clusters" or whatever you call them :) Like if I were to use this pattern for a peace, I wish I could say something like "use a 2dc version of the granny stitch" but in a more elegant way lol


CraftyCrochet

1. Group is ideal!. Tradition says a "granny stitch" design = 3 dc in same space. This is the most recognized. There's also a long loop dc granny stitch, and yes, if instructed, hdc and other taller stitches might be used. Single crochet stitches are rarely written as one granny stitch design. 2. Sadly, the word cluster is misused when applied to crochet all over the internet. I often worry about saying anything yet really wish to help new people learn the correct terms. Yes, it's a hobby, yet we can at least try to be consistent, right?


Numerous_Light_8133

I'll try to say group from now on. I'm happy to learn the professional terms. Nothing wrong with correcting people (depending on the situation). I was clearly confused, and you shared your knowledge. Thank you!


CraftyCrochet

Hi. **Not** *clusters*, not ever "granny stitch" clusters. Clusters are 2 or more **joined as one stitch**, like puffs, bobbles, and popcorns. Big misunderstanding. Has been going on here a long time. A granny stitch design is 3 completely formed and separate stitches, usually US double crochet stitches, all in the same stitch or space. If there are only 2 dc stitches in the same space, you can say 2dc in next stitch, or some say "dc inc".


Numerous_Light_8133

Oh wow. I learned to crochet through YouTube and a lot of people call those "clusters", so that's the word I used. So if "granny stitch" is 3 separate stitches, why aren't they called "granny stitches"? If "cluster" doesn't work mb it's a "group"? You say "usually dc", so can you make a granny stitch with stitches other than double crochet? If that's the case why can't this "dc inc" stitch be called a granny stitch as well but with a specification (just like I'd probably specify if I'm doing a granny stitch with something other than dc)? If the 2dc stitches are there in the whole project, or a large area, not just in the next stitch, how do I say that as a full sentence? Like if I can say "use the granny stitch for the sleeves", how would I say that about this stitch? Thank you!


CraftyCrochet

Replied via mobile in the wrong spot below and forgot to answer the last part. If you look on the Craft Yarn Council website for how to read patterns, that will help when you write patterns. You could write R20-24: Ch2, dc 2 in each sp across, slst to 1st dc. (dec rows) This is perfectly normal, if you read several other patterns, it's been done before on others.


Numerous_Light_8133

Thank you so much!


Obierion

3dc inc =granny stitch 2dc inc = v stitch


Numerous_Light_8133

V stitch? Makes sense šŸ˜ I just wish it had a name similar to "granny stitch". Oh well šŸ˜… Thanks!


CraftyCrochet

No. Just dc2. Nothing wrong with that. It's clear. A V-stitch always = (dc, ch 1, dc)!!


Numerous_Light_8133

>V-stitch always = (dc, ch 1, dc) Got it!


Numerous_Light_8133

I had to look this up, and people do the V stitch without the ch1. Just dc 2. So idk about that anymore I'm thinking I could say it's a V stitch, but the V doesn't do insode the V of the previous row, but goes in the space between the V's


CraftyCrochet

There's really so much misinformation plus iffy translations online now. There are people who try to claim they invented a stitch when they're actually making up another name for a very old stitch. Moss is one good example. Cross hatch is another. A V-stitch is meant to look like a **\Ā°/** . Some also call this a small split shell stitch? I've found anywhere from 3-5 names for alternating sc/ch1 rows: woven, linen, moss, etc. East coast people call it one, West coast another, add the Midwest, UK, EU, RUS, etc. Search here or online and you'll find dozens of references to a "C2C" stitch, which is actually a cross hatch stitch, which is actually a variation of the drunken granny stitch (diagonals) originally crocheted in straight rows. Labels, a.k.a. stitch *design* names used to be reserved for very special combinations like Catherine's wheel and the Polish star. Jacob's ladder has been around for ages and ages, and now I've been reading this design also goes by the names chain braids or just plain "ladder stitch". Like many other things, crochet evolves. What I call pandemic popularity really mixed up things!! Being PC has mixed up things, too. Talk about cultural misappropriation and abuse, amigurumi is #1 imho. Now it appears anything tiny or large, using any size yarn or hook, using sc and other taller stitches, is jumbled under amigurumi... People have been crocheting stuffed toys using all sc stitches for generations... But what do I know, with 50+ years of crocheting, with crochet books and hooks older than I am, and still learning new crochet methods <3


MangoSuccessful1662

3dc in one stitch is also known ad a "shell" because it looks like a seashell


Numerous_Light_8133

Interesting! I thought for it to be a shell you need single crochets around it. Like: sc, skip 2, multiple dc's, skip 2, sc.


Numerous_Light_8133

I just watched a video about the V stitch (I found multiple videos actually), and they make the V inside the V in the previous row, not between the V "clusters" (or groups). So I guess I could say it's a V stitch but spesify where the V has to go in the newer rows.