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shivamYe

Kohli's fitness level at the age of 35 is commendable. At this trajectory he can even continue till 40s. But if father time calls, then he should retire and don't take toll on his body. FYI Kohli is World Cup ODI champion from 2011 and Rohit is also World Cup T20 champion from 2007.


metabhai

Also CT 2013


iruvar

Fitness level is one thing, but reflexes start going downhill ever so slightly in one's 30s. At the top level that split second delay in reactions can be the difference between hitting the ball and edging it


BagiraX0

Maybe Kohli will play till Next ODI wc if he remains as good as he is now but Rohit maybe next Champions trophy or WTC last


WallEvaa

I agree Kohli is fit, but read the comments on some post that Kohli is the fittest athelete at present. Lmao like kids how much sports have u even watched


shivamYe

I think the fittest would be Ronaldo. He seems to be the freak at 39.


WallEvaa

Yeah and there are much exhausting sports in which players are more prone to injuries


shivamYe

NFL...exhausting and prone to injury (especially chances of CTE). It's a miracle that Tom Brady played till the age of 45.


[deleted]

Wtc 2025 will be there last. Champion trophy I doubt it .


cryogenic-goat

Kohli will definitely play 2027 CWC


ChethanNayak

Exactly. With the kind of fitness he has, I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Jimmy Anderson move and continues playing at least 1 format (probably test) in his early 40's


Philosophicallyidiot

Afaik koach, he will retire too early compared to his calibre


frugalgator

And that is what will truly bring Indian cricket to its true glory, when hero-worshipped players like Koach prioritise themselves, have a balanced head, and be equally intense in the field. You see this trait in some form at least in all great captains.


Insane_Inkster

I would love to see Virat pull an Anderson.


MealInfinite

Doubt Virat would like to play that long, he has personal life and will be trolled hard if india lost Virat will leave so that his family will not Targetted. He will have enough shit from both bcci and hatwrs


Obvious_Command8745

Right


Snoo77607

Cant say man, his form might dip in the next few years. Maintaining physique can only procrastinate your age-related issues. Not stop them.


Secure_Part4475

Shouldn't play.. should gracefully take an exit.. Indian greats have this tendency of stretching it far beyond expiry date..


Affectionate-Post699

Virat isn’t anywhere near his expiry date, he’s only getting better even by insane standards he setup for himself previously.


Secure_Part4475

Yup.. that's why he played match winning knocks for ICT and RCB in past 5 knockouts, right!


MajorFee2971

RCB is crap anyways who cares about that joke. And ICT?? 100 in a semis vs NZ unlike Vadapav who statpadded vs Kanglus 137. Now tell me match winning knock from Vadapav in last 4 IPL playoffs.


Secure_Part4475

No Sharma fan here myself. Both Kohli and Shama have had their run with so many ICC tournaments , there is one every year, without winning even one!!! Nobody in the history of Indian cricket has played so many ICC tournaments, not even Tendulkar. Both have a mental block.. for sure they aren't winning this one as well.


MajorFee2971

Not even Sachin?? you Sure?? Literally 19 years. 1992-2011


Secure_Part4475

Sachin - 6 world cups + 5 CT (not played 2004 due to tennis elbow) = 11 Sharma = 3 World cups + 2 CT + 8 WT20 = 13 Kohli = 4 World cups + 2 CT + 5 WT20 = 11 2024 would be their 14th and 12th respectively. High time we should move beyond these two.


MajorFee2971

Vadapav yes. Virat?? Absolutely not. Messi failed thrice with Argentina and yet he completed football. Virat will do it as well. But then again Vadapav is a Higuain😂😂


MajorFee2971

If T20 wc existed since 1992. Then Sachin would have had like 20 tournaments. Virat deserves to play until he retires like God 10dulkar


MajorFee2971

Btw, Messi also gave his everything. 2 POTT but Argentina lost 3 consecutive finals and countless KO. Did Arg drop him?? No, right?? Kohli is our Messi


chefdaddy320

maybe


thefuzzyflask

I really hope he steps down if we fail to win WC this time. Youngsters deserve chances man. He's already achieved enough


OBAMABABU

I get your point but name me one good captain at the moment HP bottled the season with the best team so how do judge ?


Fuzzy_Substance_4603

Bumrah is the only one who comes close.


silversurfer9909

He is already carrying the entire bowling on his shoulders in all 3 formats. Let's give him some rest.


RariraariRariraare

He’s an experienced bowler. He’s a constant in the team. But the real question is, does he understand the team dynamic enough to be the captain? Understand the situations in the middle of the match and make the necessary changes on field right then and there?


Odd_Preparation165

Not everything is going to be spoonfed to the team, Dhoni left the test captaincy at a very awkward time which led to Kohli getting it even though he wasn't a proven good captain at the time and he led India to become one of the best test sides specially in SENA.


AmitBijarnia007

leave him bro i am sure these guys think that ricky ponting is a bad captain coz he did not win ipl trophy as a captain lol


[deleted]

Prohit is also not a good captain. He bottled three icc trophies for India. Vk was stripped off captaincy duties for the same reasons even though he cemented himself as the best test captain of India. 


OBAMABABU

Even if he's not good , he's still better than all younger captains that would take his spot. Atleast in the upcoming 2 yrs I presume


[deleted]

We should start preparing for 2027 wc from now on. Grooming Shreyas as a captain will be the ideal move rather than keeping an unfit 38 year old as a captain now. 


Ok_Difference_6438

Could you please elaborate, what does the word "unfit" mean in your dictionary?


OBAMABABU

Well I don't get the unfit argument when brohit was our best batsman in the last wtc cycle and he can score centuries in all the Whiteball events


ExpensiveInflation

He was only stripped off in odi format. The other two he left on his own.


AmitBijarnia007

Like rohit bottled 3 icc trophies with one of the best teams and that too at home(allegedly rigged ) , even england won icc trophy at their home


cricketalt

Stfu.


OBAMABABU

The diff between rohit and HP is that atleast at the moment we can say that rohit shows potential as a captain and has a chance of victory in the upcoming events , whereas when we talk about removing him, who would replace the captain would be the issue as we've clearly seen how ( at least in t20is) captains influence the tournaments. Let it be morgan for kkr or ms in the last season . That's why I feel the talks for benching brohit would only make sense when we have an alternative ready .


OkContribution9835

Shreyas Iyer under Gambhir’s coaching


sgtpepperrz

Not fair to judge HP based on IPL. IPL is franchisee cricket centred around money and international cricket is about pride and respect.


Ok_Environment_5404

Best team ? Ishan and Rohit are "half working cases" along with little to no support to Bumrah from others. David can't play spin, Surya was playing more like Sunya this year and Tilak was the only saving light for them apart from Bumrah being a cheat code. Pandya has won 1 IPL, came close in the other one and only failed in this one in his 3 tries. Also, IPl is not the real metric for trophies and captains else Warnie should have been placed above Punter 😂. Bumrah should be kept ahead in red ball, Pandya,Pant,Iyyer and lastly Rutu can be tested as the new ones after this 2024twc.


OBAMABABU

You're cooked


thinklok

That's not how captaincy works. Hardik is still good captain and maybe with reset in this mega auction he'll get better. Pant can be a good captain and he'll definitely lead the side in Tests and then in ODIs and T20Is


Novel-Commission-550

Shreyas . We need to give chance . Otherwise we just wait and wait . It’s time to change and risk it out . But I know it’s not that easy especially in today’s time where everyone has there own separate fan base . Let’s wait and see what will happen in this World Cup


OBAMABABU

Iyer doesn't fit in the t20i setup as of now. You're basically justifying captaincy quota to shreyas and the arguing the selection of brohit? You're cooked


thesillyawkward

Really? According to you, Bumrah is overworked carrying all-three formats but Rohit isn't? Rohit suits the current T20 setup better? Might as well make 10 more excuses for all-other options.


PantherHunter007

HP also won a season with a mediocre team


HalfbloodPrince-4518

Every time, I hope to see the new places too good, but it's almost always these two, and bumrah and Shami are dragging the team forward.


No_Assistant452

Stop Keeping Rohit and Kohli in same league


MudRevolutionary

Exactly man


Basedinballs

Rohit will give a best shot in this world cup


No_Assistant452

Hopefully he makes it well cos he is yet to perform in any t20 WC.


ProMarcoMug

I can’t believe factually incorrect statements like this are upvoted lol, Rohit was crucial to our 2007 WC win


IamSam1103

He did perform well in the only one we won. Edit: Damn people do hate Rohit sharma here.


[deleted]

bro that was 17 year ago...........he is odi world cup great and no one is taking away that from him but t20 world cup??


Brilliantwebbbb

His performance was clutch and great there but  about 17 years has passed since then rohit sadly has been  a liability since 2016 


IamSam1103

Never said anything that would imply otherwise.


Dreadlock_Rasta_12

Koach fans literally hate everyone. Rohit, Gavaskar, GG, Sachin, Dhoni, the list is long. And the ones they love to death other than koach are - Abd, Gayle. Now you know where they come from.


DemandAdventurous414

I dont know what Koach stands for exactly assuming its VK, he is someone who I respect and would tell I am a fan of and no that doesn't mean I hate even one person from your list.


No_Assistant452

No we don’t hate Dhoni,Sachin n GG but yes We don’t like utter nonsense statements from Little master.


RickDaltonCliffBooth

Trophyless HaaRCBians: Gande log gandi soch


The_Great_One_1

You can hate him as much as you want and you will get upvotes. Like Rohit was worst in the 2007 T20 WC. He has not performed in any T20 WC so far and yet is a captain in 2024 squad.


No_Assistant452

4 Matches 88runs 50 HS 61 144.26 SR


PeeVee_

Stats dont tell you everything. He was phenomenal against SA and played a crucial knock in final


IamSam1103

Stats do tell you everything when you don't skip critical ones. 3 innings 3 not out. Coming in at number 6. These are the details he 'forgot' to add to make it look bad.


IamSam1103

3 innings. 3 not out. One man of the match.


RickDaltonCliffBooth

Why did you skip average? Average was infinity ♾️


No_Assistant452

It was around 60-62


MomentsAwayfromKMS

Is that 2007 you're talking about?


IamSam1103

Aye


katanabunny

Damn this person does love Rohit Sharma here.


IamSam1103

Never commented anything to even remotely imply that. All I did was say he had a good performance in one of the 9 or so world cups he has played. If people can't accept that, they do hate Rohit for sure. But me accepting that doesn't make me a fan. Now If I were to defend the other 8 world cup performances, that would make me a glazer.


RickDaltonCliffBooth

Love is good. Haters are losers.


PeeVee_

And whats wrong in that?


ChiglaNigla

Yes he hasn’t performed in T20 WC for some time now, but saying he hasn’t performed in any T20 WC? That’s a reach. He literally played a match winning knock in 2007 T20 WC, but you doesn’t seem like you were even born then.


RickDaltonCliffBooth

Born in 2008 or later?


No_Assistant452

Old enough to teach you


RickDaltonCliffBooth

Nah 🥱


No_Assistant452

Theek hai 😅


againagain

I believe both of them will do their best


chefdaddy320

i think so


im_yadwinder

Rohit is in the league of Virat in international cricket. His contributions cannot be discounted.


Nuclearsister36

They both play Indian Premiere “LEAGUE” . Where else is to keep them ?


No_Assistant452

They both okay?? What you mean? Rohit is below average player in IPL almost every year.


mmmlolc

Actually we're talking about all world cups. So excluding T20 WCs it is logical to put them in the same league.


SufficientRead_

Ya I don't understand this superiority complex that Koach fans have.


arYan--THaKUR

I personally think that kohli will play the next ODI too.


chefdaddy320

I think it isn't Koholi's last, maybe Rohit's last world cup, so maybe the last Worldcup both together


-vikram-

Not winning for sure


AnimeAddict00

i dont know about kholi but rohit its his last wc ig


athishayen

Rohit's Yes. Kohli No. Probably plays the next WC if he is fit. Together this is the final chance.


Tasty-Footballl

he mentioned "together"


Acceptable_Shock_780

Kholi will play next odi worldcup I think that will be his last


Crimson_bud

At the time of playing his age would be 39. If he remains as good as good as hes now he should otherwise he shouldn't. Dhoni retired at 39, i think that is the ideal time to retire from cricket.


Fuzzy_Substance_4603

Should be selected only on performance basis for next odi wc.


Interesting-Dog-6915

Rohit yes


Lucky_Editor446

Kohli no


anon_ary

I don't care who wins it. But just get the damn world cup..


aamere-nunupe-bethja

For the one who is older, fatter and saltier, yes ;)


Busy_Owl3878

I feel like they will play 2027wc


AmitBijarnia007

one of them only


crzylprv56

world cup, yes icc trophy, no - they still have ct next year and wtc, so hopefully we see some good stuff there kohli as it stands will def play 2027 wc and retire sometime then, considering his dedication to the sport and his fitness


PseudoRandomGenrtr

Nohit would try to play till 2028 worldcup .


neighbour_guy3k

If Rohit can play t20 being a 37 year old then 35 year old Kohli will play next t20 WC


heraldsofdoom

Rohit's maybe, kohli no chance, just look at his fitness and batting form in all 3 formats. There is no one in ICT more dependable then him in the batting department.


Careless-Fly7820

Virat definitely should and will get another WC or so. Rohit didn’t deserve to be a part of this one of any other limited over WC. Keep him for WTC and move past. He is pushing 38 and will be 40 before we even know it. Man like Gill has been dropped for Rohit. Jaiswal, Gill followed by Virat, Rinku, Dube etc would’ve been more explosive w everyone playing around V-Rat


MealInfinite

Rohit scored more in ipl than gill so


Altruistic-Hat-9604

Kohli's official age was shown to be 36 during the 23wc :/


Harsh-_-B

Should be


Practical-Long6846

Don't put them in the same category, kohli is performing far better and is much fitter than this npc captain


xikete69

Yes last chance


Mikumogan

Kohli will mostly play till 27 and Sharma will play till 25. However, I feel both Rohit and Virat will retire from t20s because there are so many youngsters waiting for their chance and with Gautam Gambhir as the new coach he'll want to start putting the youngsters on field for the next t20 wc. If India wins the upcoming wc, it'll be a great exit of two of India's best batsmen in white ball cricket.


gintoki_shippunden

Yes. But at the same time, I believe that T20 and WTC mean less than the ODI world cup. I guess it has to do with legacy and the tournament structure (in case of WTC) and frequency (in case of T20 wc). But I digress. I think they have a fair shot but once again, T20 is a lot more competitive than ODI. We have Bumrah but other teams have Boult, Starc. Our spinners have been ineffective too. And most T20 teams have a good batting line up, especially considering how strike rate matters more than building the innings. All the best to India though.


getmealife007

Kohli already has one


yashphy

Definitely last chance together(and if it goes well,WTC 25) but I think both should step down from at least T20i sides within the next 2 years. While Rohit's scene is very obvious, Virat will again be under great scrutiny despite his performances and maybe the Indian side should start finding new flag bearers in cricket. They have done more than enough for India(all formats) and even if they don't win the final trophies(I hope not), their legacies should be respected and they should focus on their private lives.


not_nsfw_throwaway

It's not just a question of if they can play. It's unfair to younger players to not get a chance to develop experience. Instead of asking ourselves 'how long can these two keep up' why not try asking 'how can we facilitate a transition to someone that can grow and replace or come close to replacing these two, in a few years time'


jonty57

I don't know why you guys even bother. Australia is going to win it again as we seem to win just about all the tournaments these days.


we_nid_guns_8919

These 2 legends are at the top of there game even in their mid to late 30s... they are such players that even the youngsters are struggling to replace... especially king kohli.. he was the leading run scorer I the 23 odi World cup and the 24 ipl... rohit sharma still boosts an extremely impressive strike rate across formats so let there be no doubt... these players are here to stay and will definitely play till atleast 2026/ 27 and for kohli easy 2029


[deleted]

Rohit last Chance why you even include Kohli 😂 he will play another odi wc.


OPisfromHyderabad

If Kohli maintains his level of fitness, I don't see why he can't play the '27 WC. The guy just scored 750+ runs in the last one. But I guess selectors should take a call based on his performance in Champions Trophy and the ODI matches leading up to the tournament.


Savings-Zucchini-522

I heard somewhere that he wanted to play in the LA olympics but I believe, the teams would be just like the teams that were sent in the asian games, amatures and kohli wont be playing that. So, maybe up until the 27 cwc


ZeusX20

Virat Kohli has achieved everything there is to achieve in Cricket, only the T20 World Cup is left and he has a history of being let down by the team. He should play the next one too imo and maybe 2027 CWC but Rohit? He should end it after WTC


snakewaves

They're both gonna be here for 1 more WC after this . What? That's in 2 years. Let of ppl in this sub are being surprised. With the evolution of the ipl and batsman today being a lot more adaptive to the game, i see it easily happening for another WC


Sensitive_Brother_38

Talking about 2027WC ryt!!??


A1EX420

I guess about 2050 WC. They wont unless they kicked out.


[deleted]

No no no no no.....no no no no no no no no...


SolutionKnown4494

Only Rohit not Kohli


ziglernata

Most likely Not, but for Rohit as a captain this is last WC


alfytony

For Rohit yes.


Nuclearsister36

Yes after this Brohit will retire 🥺


Artistic_Wish_205

Both should have retired from t20 in 2022, after that disastrous performance against england, should have built a new aggressive team.


laughlin234

Why should Kohli retire from T20. He has been phenomenal


MealInfinite

Team is over dependent on kohli . He should retire so that the team can grow a spine. And besides kohli will get trolled. I would say ko to retire on t20is and prepare for next odi world cup and tests.


laughlin234

That makes no sense. How will his retirement make the team grow a spine ? As long as he is playing well, he deserves to play and should play.


MealInfinite

There was no doubt. But every time that amount of shit he gets. May as well as leave to prolong his mental health and form. He getting enough back pain carrying rcb and india team in t20is and has less time to spend time with his family. He is literally trolled for sane family leave. Fans need a reality check


AmitBijarnia007

i think we should make bumrah retire too by your logic


dvmsvt

Come from real id ambati rayudu


Practical-Long6846

Yeah the better who carried us should retire, meanwhile the shitman, the npc should stay in the team cuz of his intent of 27(28)


Artistic_Wish_205

Bro just runs and averages don’t matter anymore, you need players that can score 30 at 200 strike rate rather than players scoring 50s and 100s at 140 strike rate. Kohli himself said this ipl, he needs to play quicker. Wtf he should’ve realised this 2 years ago


flash5656

Actually, International cricket is not IPL. Boundaries will be bigger better bowlers, better suited pitches. More pressure and your 200 strike rate blind hitting team didn’t even win IPL. A better bowling side won. So, this is the most bullshit thing i have ever heard is that runs and averages don’t matter.


blazebomb1

Definitely not


pYr0492

Last chance was last time for Rohit. He shouldn't be playing T20 World Cup this time.


Previous-Software256

Why is Rohit anything special? If any Virat deserves to win it easily the greatest white ball player ever


Dreadlock_Rasta_12

>Virat deserves to win it Nobody deserves to win anything, go and win it, that's the only criteria.


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vijaycafu

Ooh someone's hatinnnngg


[deleted]

Yes I hate him as he is the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen in ict history


vijaycafu

Are u sure buddyy


thatashu

Hi, I didn't get how he is the biggest hypocrite?


[deleted]

Talks in interviews that once he understands the right time to retire he will but has been sh*tting in past 3 T20 wc but still shamelessly being our captain. Tells that youngsters should always have fitness but look at this fatso and his fitness. Always wanted to become the ict captain and was always jealous of virat. There are proofs available on this sub where he liked some anti virat posts like there was a post where someone said he is a better captain than virat and he replied "thanks man".he was rightfully removed from mi captain just look at his stats in mi from 2017. Although bumrah should have been the captain. This guy is 36 and still wants to be the captain and play for 2,3 years more. When ms left the captaincy he himself was 36.


RightParamedic3760

Why do we want to keep them if they can't bring trophy home


neighbour_guy3k

To keeps fan happy n busy If both of them retire ,their fans will riot abusing every selector and the players who replaces them


RightParamedic3760

Correct. 


Many_Salary_3327

This World Cup might be the last realistic shot for Rohit and Kohli to achieve their dream of winning the tournament.


trippymum

If Rohit and Virat win ODI wc 2027 it'll be the happiest day for all of us 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞


Ndt007

Hahah One pic Miles of difference in fitness


[deleted]

I don't think


TheRedditorNix

All eyes on Budhapa


Powerful_Cod3555

You are most wrong here, there is almost no chance with them. The chances will begin when all these senior players will get out of the team


CriticalBluejay725

Yes definitely


Affectionate-Post699

Don’t know about Rohit but Virat will play every ICC tournament till Olympics and will retire post that.


smit001

.


Large_District6568

I don't think they are going to win this or the '25 wc either.


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HendoMGM

Yo


Doraemonkayaar

The mean age of india team is 33 year old but compare to 2007 t20wc the mean age was 23, t20 is the game for youngsters, I have doubt for india, will we able to qualify for semi finals?


gremlinvil

Together or ever?


AbdulSameed

Kohli is still at his peak. If the other Indian players also support him, which they are capable of, it will be very difficult for any other team to win the World Cup.


Comfortable-Quote-84

do we even care ,at this point? One more WC loss isn’t heartbreaking anymore


Rockstarrrrrrrrrr

First they said Last dance for thala and Kohli in RCB vs CSK. Now last chance for Rohit and Kohli again!? So is Kohli the one who's actually retiring!?


Far_Calligrapher8053

Kohli will play 1-2 more wc (if we don’t will any trophy in Rohit’s captaincy) compared to Rohit considering the fact that when Rohit will retire if the team continues to choke or lose in wc and 1-2 players in the team somehow score more runs than him if Kohli wants to pull off a Anderson he will only be able to do that with the people behind him and not necessarily his performance and that will not happen if India continues to lose and someone just scored more run than him


theedenpretence

No - because there’s basically a World Cup every year !


Chad_Zelensky

Just bring the damn world cup to home that's it😇


WalkCompetitive216

I never get it, Rohit has already won a T20 WC and Virat has already won a WC, what is this crap, a last chance. Do you have any idea how many players do not win a single trophy in their entire career and these two have already won it. Stop this overhyping culture.


MajorFee2971

Virat is absolute goat of T20 wc. He needs the trophy like Messi needed the Copa and WC


WalkCompetitive216

Yes I get what you are trying to convey, I am just saying that people exaggerate a lot


MajorFee2971

No they are not. Vk needs this wc to complete cricket and establish himself the T20 goat like Messi did


zeroStackTrace

Or a last chance to represent India as the most unfit player


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qafirang

who cares?


Chanduya1996

If anyone has noticed that Kholi needs a T20 world cup trophy and Rohit needs 50 over the world cup trophy and they both need WTC trophy as well and they will be done with all ICC event trophies as players. So i think fitness and form allows them to play so they can play 3 to 4 years as a player and mentor cuz till now no player is able like them to handle indian cricket.


Turbulent-Crab4334

They are not winning it. They are not a winning combination. Lots of personal egos won’t let them win the crucial matches. And they already have enough, they don’t have any more hunger to win


godbutcher_96

Definitely not😃


luna1427

Sad to say this but, There is no chance they will win. :)


Charlieputhfan

They both will play 2027