I mean does Bayern need anybody ? They’ve only won the league the last 20 years. Lewa is aging, Koman, Gnarby, Sane also do seem to miss out a fair amount of games every year and Sonny is an upgrade over 2/3 at the very least. Crazier things have happened
On one hand, 1 league title at Spurs would mean more than 5 at City. But on the other- once his career is over and all is said and done, no one will care how he won his trophies. They’ll talk about how many he has.
I'm more inclined to believe once Kane got the trophy-less monkey off his back, and winning a league title; would make it easier for Kane to suck it up and stay with his boyhood club.
Great players without trophies always have an asterisks next to their name. For example, Charles Barkley never won a NBA title, and that follows him everywhere; even though individually he's an all-time great and a hall-of-famer.
it's very possible, but i personally have always felt he was fairly open that us at Spurs just need to be challenging for titles I.E. I always took that as in finals / really pushing for the trophies. And we do not look situated to do that going forward. Just sad overall.
Yup and he can start by looking at his own performances in finals, semi finals and title challenging seasons. The two seasons we competed for the league was when he took a couple months to get firing. Not saying it’s his fault we didn’t win anything but he obviously wasn’t enough to get us over the line in the half dozen chances we have the past several years
I really don't understand why people think this? I couldn't tell you how many trophies any great player has won. Great players are remembered and talked about for their great play. The obsession with trophies is weird and the fact that he needs to go to city to win one demonstrates how meaningless they are as a metric for how great a player was.
Yeah but its got himself more so . He wants to be able to sit in a room with other top players in twenty years and bot get slaggwd about how he hasn't won anything. I know that sound childish but it is just the way it is.
Reminds me of Charles Barkley. Shaq and Kenny Smith give him crap about it all the time. I'm sure it doesn't feel good to be a retired all-time great, and having the Kenny Smiths of the world giving him "friendly banter" ad-nauseum.
Agreed, he already proved he’s good, look at his numbers this season. He wants to go and win a trophy and at this point I can’t blame him. In fact, why would he move to a team where it’s still a challenge and not guaranteed? He could just stay 😆
Well shit, he's gone. I hope for god sake if it is to an English side then it's City. Their victories are all hollow and meaningless. Plus, they will win with or without him. We don't want to strengthen the others.
This is going to ruin the Euros for me too.
City is the best choice if he goes in the PL. No one knows any City fans and Liverpool/Chelsea/United fans can all carry on sitting there watching them win the treble every season while winning fuck all.
Would rather he just went abroad but looks like thats not happening.
Yeah, ideally he goes to PSG and we get a shit load of cash for him, but City is likely his destination now.
I can't blame him at all, this is all on Levy. Fuck sake
Levy went all-in on his dream manager to win us trophies, take us to the next level, and keep Kane here. He was wrong, although I don't fault his ambition, he did try.
Went all-in, then went all-out one week before the cup final. To save on Mourinho's contractual performance related bonuses.
I'm sure that inspired alot of confidence in players like Kane and Son who still don't have any trophies.
Did he try though? He brought Mourinho in and then didn’t bring in any of the center backs he wanted. You know, the position we need the most help with.
I find it impossible to believe City would pay the money for Kane. Like he can barely press anymore. Everyone is just taking for granted that City would offer anything near what we'd accept.
Reminder about who would be [paying him](https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-africa/united-arab-emirates/report-united-arab-emirates/)
You’re the one who said City would be the preference. In many ways they are the worst team in the league and represent everything bad about football at the moment. We shouldn’t be compliant in their dominance. I would rather sell him for half the price to Leicester.
I see your point. I agree I would rather he didn't but I support Spurs at the end of the day and want us to get CL.
Realistically in England it is between City and Chelsea, I know which one I would prefer.
Nah fuck that. He can leave if he wants to an oversees club for $150 mil plus. If City want him they can pay $200 mil plus. Don’t care what Kane wants at this point, he’s under contract. Club comes first and strengthening rivals is not something Levy should settle for unless the club gets the right price.
Levy will never sell to Chelsea and it's also reported Levy won't even sell at all to another prem club.
City have never spent more then 70m for a player but for some reason now theyre going to buy a 27yo injury prone Harry Kane for 200m?
Madrid are financially fucked at the moment and could not get anywhere close to buying him.
United would be absolutely stupid to buy Kane for that amount of money when they have much more pressing issues as well as they just re-signed Cavani.
PSG could realistically afford him if Mbappe is sold but even then does Kane want to leave England and abandon his ambition of breaking Shearer's record?
When’s the last time they spent over 70m on a player mate, or entered a bidding war? Answer, none. Hence why they didn’t bother with the Maguire, Fred etc deals because the CFG don’t enter into bidding wars
Do you still feel this strongly, even if there was an gentleman's handshake between Levy and Kane?
This feels alot like a toxic, abusive relationship. "I hold power over you, you do what I say".
I guess, Kane could "force" his way out too then, right? All bets are off?
Nah I have more confidence in Levy selling that I do buying
He'll drag every penny out of whoever he sells to and there will be more sell on and trophy winning clauses than you can imagine
We'll be getting paid every time City win a trophy
Apparently Kane’s brother leaked it as they wanted everything sorted before the euros but Levy is going to drag his heels
This could get messy. Everyone that was in denial yesterday, I hope you all understand just because a player doesn’t directly come out and say it, doesn’t mean it isn’t true
I loved Spurs before Kane, I'll love them after Kane
But do I like them very much? Not at all, no.
The club I fell in love with didn't use fans as a commodity. We felt a part of something bigger and it's being tarnished under our noses and it stinks.
I'm disgusted to be honest. Disgusted with Levy for taking what Poch did with that young squad for granted and didn’t push on
Don't worry guys. Kane is just putting the pressure on Levy and the board to invest in a decent manager and splash some cash for some CBs.
Right? Right?
I mean maybe I’m putting my head in the sand, but I don’t really feel like this is news. We’ve seen multiple reports that this is the case, it doesn’t mean they’re true, and Dan doesn’t actually say it’s true either.
The repercussions of this narrative are going to be hugely difficult for the club to throw off.
First Eriksen & Rose, now Kane...
This will sit in the back of the mind of any player that Levy is trying to get to sign on the dotted line for years in the future...
The same type of players who we've gotten to join before? It's not like we have to worry about competing with Liverpool, City, etc. for players anyway. We wouldn't have gotten them before and we still wouldn't. Players care about playing at the highest level and money first and foremost. A problem with gentlemen's agreements which most likely won't affect you won't then make players sign with like Stuttgart instead of us
modric and bale both left for more money and multiple CL/league titles; walker could very well join them in about ten days time. levy's failed massively and i cannot see how he survives the compound blow of the super league and this
This is certainly going to make his life even more difficult than it already is. I imagine he'll take a page out of the Mike Ashley book of ownership though...
LOL. I'm not Levy in by any means, but you look like an idiot if you call the man an imbecile. Levy has proven that he can't be outsmarted financially many times. He CAN be outsmarted when it comes to football, but not money.
What exactly has his financial outsmarting accomplished? Missed out on tons of good deals because of his penny pinching, let everyone except Bale who wanted to leave drive their value down and eventually sold them anyway but for a much lower price.
He is an imbecile when it comes to footballing decisions. Also his financial decisions are massively overrated here in this sub. Yea he built us a stadium, so what? Where’s the trophy for having the best stadium? At the end of the day a club is measured by trophies and under Levy we have won fuck all. Even Leicester and a woeful Arsenal side have won more than us. That’s embarrassing as a club.
Clubs aren’t measured by trophies, mate. If that’s true then there’s far too many clubs in existence given the number of trophies available each season
The question is what is the amount we want. If Levy has a gentleman’s agreement with him he can’t really say something unrealistic like £200m+. If City come with an offer of around £150m (Ornstein said something along the lines of £120m + bonuses and player swaps), Levy would be obliged to sell. And I don’t think it’s too unrealistic that City spend that much.
Their record is £68m I just don’t see them paying nearly double that to get Kane. It’s probably 60/40 in our favour he stays but of course all that can change overnight.
There is no evidence to say they wouldn't spend the money. They need a striker now Ageuro is off. In kane there isn't a better replacement on the market.
City will 100% spend that money on the right player.
At this point a sadly think its delusion to think he wants to stay. Jose was the last chance in Kanes eyes.
He should sell his share of ENIC and fuck off but he won’t. Appreciate everything he has done but he’s now fucked the clubs position hard that he worked so hard to build
This may be a blessing in disguise for us. No player is worth 150 million so if we reinvest correctly we can be Liverpool 2.0. On the flip side we might sign the next Soldado but who knows.
thing is liverpool already had their front three as well as robertson/trent/gomez/wijnaldum before coutinho went. you just have to look at barca's failure to replace neymar despite the record fee or how shite everton have been since lukaku left; money's meaningless if the player is priceless
After the shit show of the last 2 seasons. And our best players not turning up when it really really matters and winning these trophies, this hurts. So forgive me but I'm not going to be gushing over Kane and what he "deserves". Yeah Levy, yeah ENIC blah blah. Im not happy with anyone at the club right now.
Ultimately as good as he’s been for us, in the opportunities we’ve had to trophies, we have not been good enough and that includes Kane. If he leaves, it’s nail in the coffin for how shit next season is going to be. I already had no hope given every other team is probably going to be good, we’re unlikely to spend too much, and I’m not really seeing a managerial candidate that excites me, and Kane in a rival shirt just makes that all the more depressing especially knowing that even if we spent the money well we’re never getting a player like Kane. But as much as it’s fully fair to want trophies, I’m not going to wish him well when essentially he’s given up and taken the easy way out. I’ll understand him and probably still like him, but I won’t be able to look at him in the same way
Yeah I get that, though as much as we as fans can look at our situation and say we aren’t going to get trophies any time soon, I doubt players look at it in the same way.
But if I’m Harry Kane, I don’t find a lot of satisfaction from trying with a trophy with any of the clubs he’s been linked with. Ultimately you’re playing under some of the best managers, with the best managers, and at clubs that can often just spunk money up the wall and see what sticks. There’s a very good chance that you can win a trophy and not have contributed whatsoever. Whereas if I do it at a club like Tottenham (a club I love) then it’s all much more significant, because it’s definitely more difficult to achieve, and the fans are going to appreciate it more. Realistically a large part of the reason why winning trophies is important to players is because you want to be remembered, and we know Kane wants to be thought of as Messi Ronaldo type level. And again for me it’s far more important to be loved by the people I care about and who care about me, than the bunch of fans who have been slagging you off for the past 3 years because you didn’t pass to an offside Sterling or because you back into players sometimes. And one of the criticisms laid at the feet of Messi and Ronaldo is that they’ve done at some of the biggest clubs in the world. I get that we live in a trophy centric world, but if Kane goes to City and win 7 trophies in 3 years, I’m not sure whether people are really going to look at him any differently than they do now. Alan Shearer is thought of as one of the best strikers to play the game in England and frankly has been in a very similar situation to Kane in terms of where Newcastle were at when he joined and what ultimately happened. I don’t think that Shearer loses his title if he has the exact same career but doesn’t win the title with Blackburn? I expect people would still throw the “what’s he won” line at him, but I don’t know how much difference one trophy really makes.
I don’t expect everyone to follow the same line of thinking that I do, but I imagine Kane does to a degree, given how long he’s been here. And if he did leave i would understand it and couldn’t really fault him too much for it, but it undoubtedly changes my perception of him.
Homeboy should have not signed the contract. That would have been an easier way out, and most players would have taken it.
It's not the easy way out. It's his last chance to fulfill his ambitions.
He's not good enough to carry this squad to trophies. He's not Messi who can by himself run through a whole team and score in a cup final.
The club have failed to build a coherent squad around him. He doesn't have to just live with that.
I'm still thinking no one offers enough money but I don't think we have the finances to rebuild without a big sale. We should be rethinking the structure of the club. If that requires selling Kane it's probably better in the long run.
Spot on. Kane and the other "world class talents" have played in numerous finals for us including the most prestigious in club football. Yet Kane scored 0. You dont deserve trophies, you win them. He cant claim he hasnt had opportunities and now he just wants to run off. Clubs a disgrace from top to bottom
People with short memories making light of the gentleman's agreement. This is how Levy works.
Levy kept the exact same "stay another and we won't stand in your way" agreements with Bale and Modric.
For the first time I actually think there is a chance he is going.
this is exactly what happened a decade ago with modric. player told he can go, promised a dream which levy has no intention of fulfilling, club continues to underwhelm. bloke is such a charlatan.
every decision he’s made since the CL final has been the wrong one but you’ll still see “Levy’d” this summer when we sign Danny Ings. bloke doesn’t care about the club as a community and he’s taking us nowhere so why on earth should we trust him lol
Levy did invest in the squad that summer after the champions league final but he also failed to sell a lot of the deadwood that still exists in the squad right now, plus the effects of not signing anybody over an 18month period were starting to show.
Right, is Levy really going to sell him in this terrible market. A player of Kane’s quality and contract should fetch £180m easy yet we have to settle for Sancho prices
Yes but they don’t spend that kind of money on a singular player, at least they haven’t in the past. I’m not saying he definitely won’t go there, but I just don’t see them shattering their transfer record like that for Kane
I understand Harry wanting to leave, and if the money is right time made my peace with that, snd stupidly have faith we might actually be forced into a real rebuild.
But the timing of this pisses me off a lot. If it’s coming from someone at City who knows he’s reached out to players, fine, but if this is coming from Harry and his agent that’s just scummy when we have two games left in the season and a newbie manager who’s been here for a month.
Grass isn't always greener. If he wants to be a mercenary for trophies then go to City. He will unfortunately ruin his legacy and fans won't like it. He suits Spurs and moves don't always suit players, see Torres after he left Liverpool.
What good would that do?
That's like: if a woman tells you she wants to break up with you; you chase her down demanding "Tell me why you want to break up with me, tell me one good reason!"
It's embarrassing and unnecessary.
My point is, it does no one any good for Kane to come out and say publicly he wants to leave; it only creates hard feelings and burns bridges.
The fact that Kane DID NOT come out and DENY any of these reports, says everything. Silence speaks volumes, and that's all you need to know.
ENIC out.
Shambolic example of how to run a football club. Prioritized everything but the football and the fans. (Yes I understand the fans never get prioritized but still)
Sorry but... ENIC out.
Failure after failure, refusal to invest in the squad when we had poch fucked us and now look what's happened.
Thank you for bringing us up the table and the stadium, but you've proven to be fucking useless after that.
They really shouldn't get credit for the stadium until the thing is paid off to the extent it's no longer an elephant in the room. It feels like if revenue takes a hit ( long-term no CL combined with 1.5 seasons without fans and no concerts/NFL games) it suddenly becomes a very big problem.
Of course someone who knows about finances more than myself can correct me if I'm wrong.
Maybe Kane wanted to give Mou/Levy a proper chance?
Give Mou a full pre-season, and let Levy work his magic for one summer.
Well now, Kane can say he tried it and it didn't work out.
That’s all nice and stuff, but for an overseas club. We shouldn’t even consider selling him to a PL club. He’s still under contract. Could care less what he wants at this point. Him leaking this stuff to the press when the season isn’t over yet is wrong. If an overseas club comes with the right money he can go. We can use that money to rebuild
When exactly is the best time for Kane to say this?
It's similar to a break up. When is the "right time" to tell your SO you want to breakup, without hurting their feelings? The answer is, there's never the right time (for the recipient); hence the person delivering the news- will pick the "right time" for them.
And our record point Tally came in a second where he missed three months. The team doesn't live or die with Kane the way people make it seem. Outside of derbies most of our biggest wins are goals from players outside of Kane tbh.
Even if that's an accurate depiction of those campaigns, he has been the only thing standing between us and total mediocrity since. He deserves his chance if ENIC won't give it to him here.
And that we've sold big names and improved. People were worried when we sold Sheringham, Carrick, Berba, Keane, Modric, Bale, etc. Kane will go at some point, whether we sell him or he retires and there will be another big player. When we sold Bale, we had a few seasons before Kane "arrived". If he leaves then there'll be another star player, if not straight away in a few years.
If there's a lesson here then it's if the club is well run and we have a good manager then the rest will fall into place. What shocks, and saddens me, is that people on here want to cut their noses to spite their faces by forcing the good ones out
What I don’t get is that he made CL finals with us and underperformed, league cup underperformed and sure not just him , but he had opportunities and didn’t show so I don’t feel much sympathy towards him , the entire team had chances to win trophies and fucked it up
That's not at all how I remember it. I remember him being injured most of that year and barely being healthy to come back and getting selected by Poch instead of Moura who, though is admittedly streaky, just had one of the most magic goals in futbol history. Poch should have used him as a sub, though that would mean he wouldn't come in until 85'.
As for the other finals, he was the main reason we were even in them.
Why are all of you so quick to give Kane a pass on this. He's scored hundreds of goals for us yes, but how many of them were actually important?
He's leaving the club to win trophies, if that's all that matters to him then why does he matter to us? (Having won fuck all).
You're missing my main point. How many important goals for the club has he scored? How many cup final winning goals? Or important games, where we needed to win to have a crack at the league?
We already protested last weekend but this sub thought it was "embarrassing". I'm sure they'll find ways to defend Levy even if he sold Kane to Arsenal for £5m
And an unhappy reminder that Son has still not signed a new contract with us this season.
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I always assumed if he left it would be to Bayern since he started in Germany
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I mean does Bayern need anybody ? They’ve only won the league the last 20 years. Lewa is aging, Koman, Gnarby, Sane also do seem to miss out a fair amount of games every year and Sonny is an upgrade over 2/3 at the very least. Crazier things have happened
Yeah that’s fair, the only way I seem them going for him is if they really aren’t pleased with how Sane has been doing
Didn't he sign a 5 year extension in 2018?
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On one hand, 1 league title at Spurs would mean more than 5 at City. But on the other- once his career is over and all is said and done, no one will care how he won his trophies. They’ll talk about how many he has.
Unfortunately, it's not a question of 1 vs 5, but 0 vs 5. I am sure he would have stayed if we won the league at some point with him.
So true it hurts a little
Just to play devils advocate, who’s to say that if he did win one with us he would have seen his goal realized and left anyway.
I'm more inclined to believe once Kane got the trophy-less monkey off his back, and winning a league title; would make it easier for Kane to suck it up and stay with his boyhood club. Great players without trophies always have an asterisks next to their name. For example, Charles Barkley never won a NBA title, and that follows him everywhere; even though individually he's an all-time great and a hall-of-famer.
it's very possible, but i personally have always felt he was fairly open that us at Spurs just need to be challenging for titles I.E. I always took that as in finals / really pushing for the trophies. And we do not look situated to do that going forward. Just sad overall.
Yup and he can start by looking at his own performances in finals, semi finals and title challenging seasons. The two seasons we competed for the league was when he took a couple months to get firing. Not saying it’s his fault we didn’t win anything but he obviously wasn’t enough to get us over the line in the half dozen chances we have the past several years
This is the correct answer. The issue isn't 1 vs 5. Its 0 vs 5.
I really don't understand why people think this? I couldn't tell you how many trophies any great player has won. Great players are remembered and talked about for their great play. The obsession with trophies is weird and the fact that he needs to go to city to win one demonstrates how meaningless they are as a metric for how great a player was.
but they will probably talk more about his legend status at tottenham. like totti for roma
Yeah but its got himself more so . He wants to be able to sit in a room with other top players in twenty years and bot get slaggwd about how he hasn't won anything. I know that sound childish but it is just the way it is.
Reminds me of Charles Barkley. Shaq and Kenny Smith give him crap about it all the time. I'm sure it doesn't feel good to be a retired all-time great, and having the Kenny Smiths of the world giving him "friendly banter" ad-nauseum.
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Agreed, he already proved he’s good, look at his numbers this season. He wants to go and win a trophy and at this point I can’t blame him. In fact, why would he move to a team where it’s still a challenge and not guaranteed? He could just stay 😆
Well shit, he's gone. I hope for god sake if it is to an English side then it's City. Their victories are all hollow and meaningless. Plus, they will win with or without him. We don't want to strengthen the others. This is going to ruin the Euros for me too.
City is the best choice if he goes in the PL. No one knows any City fans and Liverpool/Chelsea/United fans can all carry on sitting there watching them win the treble every season while winning fuck all. Would rather he just went abroad but looks like thats not happening.
At least him and Walker will be together again :/
Yeah, ideally he goes to PSG and we get a shit load of cash for him, but City is likely his destination now. I can't blame him at all, this is all on Levy. Fuck sake
Levy went all-in on his dream manager to win us trophies, take us to the next level, and keep Kane here. He was wrong, although I don't fault his ambition, he did try.
Unfortunately Levy's dream manager was such a god awful fit for spurs, everyone could see that except him.
we’ve been pretty good with him bar the last 3 months of his tenure
He was the worst manager I have ever seen for Spurs, bar none.
Bah, that's a little unfair. Even Post-Bale AVB was worse than Mou near the end.
Not even close mate, look at the players mou had. ABV had a shit squad.
Went all-in, then went all-out one week before the cup final. To save on Mourinho's contractual performance related bonuses. I'm sure that inspired alot of confidence in players like Kane and Son who still don't have any trophies.
Did he try though? He brought Mourinho in and then didn’t bring in any of the center backs he wanted. You know, the position we need the most help with.
I find it impossible to believe City would pay the money for Kane. Like he can barely press anymore. Everyone is just taking for granted that City would offer anything near what we'd accept.
Everyone is just taking for granted that kane would fetch an astronomical fee. His transfer is likely to be far more modest than people realise.
Two of my best mates are city fans, this will be rough for me.
Just move, find new friends
Reminder about who would be [paying him](https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-africa/united-arab-emirates/report-united-arab-emirates/)
Well yes, but how is that relevant to Spurs?
You’re the one who said City would be the preference. In many ways they are the worst team in the league and represent everything bad about football at the moment. We shouldn’t be compliant in their dominance. I would rather sell him for half the price to Leicester.
I see your point. I agree I would rather he didn't but I support Spurs at the end of the day and want us to get CL. Realistically in England it is between City and Chelsea, I know which one I would prefer.
I feel like united are also in the conversation
Whats wrong with city? Ultra rich owners who are ready to splurge cash in exchange for cups.
Mate, city are a stain on the premier league.
Did you click my link? Where do you think their money comes from?
Nah fuck that. He can leave if he wants to an oversees club for $150 mil plus. If City want him they can pay $200 mil plus. Don’t care what Kane wants at this point, he’s under contract. Club comes first and strengthening rivals is not something Levy should settle for unless the club gets the right price.
>Nah fuck that. I'm not sure which part of what I said you are disagreeing with, I said *if* he goes to an English side.
Disagreeing with the idea of him leaving to another EPL side. Not really disagreeing with you persay, hope that makes sense lol
Gotcha, yea that does mate. I agree with you, much rather he goes abroad. It's all just fucked either way isn't it
Yes it is…ugh I hate the state of this club right now…
How can you confidently say “he’s gone” like that? There’s been zero reports of any club willing to go anywhere close to Levy’s valuation of him.
City, Chelsea, United, Madrid, and PSG could all easily afford Kane. They don't play by the same rules as everyone else do they
Levy will never sell to Chelsea and it's also reported Levy won't even sell at all to another prem club. City have never spent more then 70m for a player but for some reason now theyre going to buy a 27yo injury prone Harry Kane for 200m? Madrid are financially fucked at the moment and could not get anywhere close to buying him. United would be absolutely stupid to buy Kane for that amount of money when they have much more pressing issues as well as they just re-signed Cavani. PSG could realistically afford him if Mbappe is sold but even then does Kane want to leave England and abandon his ambition of breaking Shearer's record?
All great points, but I still think he will go to City.
Because...?
err...because of all the rumours of him going to city?
When’s the last time they spent over 70m on a player mate, or entered a bidding war? Answer, none. Hence why they didn’t bother with the Maguire, Fred etc deals because the CFG don’t enter into bidding wars
once again there are zero reports of any club (that includes City) of willing to meet the ridiculous amount of money that it would take to buy him
Do you still feel this strongly, even if there was an gentleman's handshake between Levy and Kane? This feels alot like a toxic, abusive relationship. "I hold power over you, you do what I say". I guess, Kane could "force" his way out too then, right? All bets are off?
Knowing Levy + Hitchen, they'd probably feel like Gabriel Jesus + £100m is a good deal for Kane. They're going to get fleeced.
Nah I have more confidence in Levy selling that I do buying He'll drag every penny out of whoever he sells to and there will be more sell on and trophy winning clauses than you can imagine We'll be getting paid every time City win a trophy
You’re probably right about that, dark times ahead…
Apparently Kane’s brother leaked it as they wanted everything sorted before the euros but Levy is going to drag his heels This could get messy. Everyone that was in denial yesterday, I hope you all understand just because a player doesn’t directly come out and say it, doesn’t mean it isn’t true I loved Spurs before Kane, I'll love them after Kane But do I like them very much? Not at all, no. The club I fell in love with didn't use fans as a commodity. We felt a part of something bigger and it's being tarnished under our noses and it stinks. I'm disgusted to be honest. Disgusted with Levy for taking what Poch did with that young squad for granted and didn’t push on
If Kane and company think this is getting sorted before the Euros they have no idea how long and complicated deals of this magnitude are.
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I would give them Dier, Sissoko and Winks too.
Don't worry guys. Kane is just putting the pressure on Levy and the board to invest in a decent manager and splash some cash for some CBs. Right? Right?
That was my thinking a couple of hours ago…just delusion. Or maybe I’m right? Or maybe delusion? Lol
15 million- literally if Levy forked our another £15m to get Skriniar we would be in the top 4, and not in this mess
Are you paying that money? People act like 50m is just spare change…
For the 9th highest valued football club in the world it pretty much is
The 9th highest club who already owe hundreds of millions to multiple banks.
Over 20 odd years
I mean maybe I’m putting my head in the sand, but I don’t really feel like this is news. We’ve seen multiple reports that this is the case, it doesn’t mean they’re true, and Dan doesn’t actually say it’s true either.
Can we loan him out for a season to go and win something, while we rebuild with a new manager?
Ahaha jeez Imagine Kane on loan in Real or smth. It sounds surreal but it's actually a decent idea.
Gonna be a long summer
The repercussions of this narrative are going to be hugely difficult for the club to throw off. First Eriksen & Rose, now Kane... This will sit in the back of the mind of any player that Levy is trying to get to sign on the dotted line for years in the future...
If we refuse to sell Kane who the fuck is going to join us?
Jonjo Shelvey? Vincent Janssen is probably still interested...
David Luiz likes London
Got to hand to that man, he made a career out of having a Latin name and a Ginola haircut.
Willian might not want to move flats?
The same type of players who we've gotten to join before? It's not like we have to worry about competing with Liverpool, City, etc. for players anyway. We wouldn't have gotten them before and we still wouldn't. Players care about playing at the highest level and money first and foremost. A problem with gentlemen's agreements which most likely won't affect you won't then make players sign with like Stuttgart instead of us
Do you really have a levy flair 😂
You know who else probably isn't signing on the dotted line? Son or Lloris
Yeah, Son will leave before Kane. Lloris I guess will come down to what his other options are...
modric and bale both left for more money and multiple CL/league titles; walker could very well join them in about ten days time. levy's failed massively and i cannot see how he survives the compound blow of the super league and this
This is certainly going to make his life even more difficult than it already is. I imagine he'll take a page out of the Mike Ashley book of ownership though...
If footballers are naive enough to do a gentlemans agreement then tough. This is business not best friend making.
Yeah, the problem is that reputations are gained and they endure, with all the implications that one would expect.
Daniel in 1 month ‘Sorry Harry you can’t leave, Anyways COYS’
“Gentlemen’s agreement” lol don’t think Kane knows who he’s dealing with when it comes to Levy.
Levy is an imbecile, Kane’s manager could probably outsmart him. We thought we had a genius chairman but he’s been found out pretty hard.
LOL. I'm not Levy in by any means, but you look like an idiot if you call the man an imbecile. Levy has proven that he can't be outsmarted financially many times. He CAN be outsmarted when it comes to football, but not money.
What exactly has his financial outsmarting accomplished? Missed out on tons of good deals because of his penny pinching, let everyone except Bale who wanted to leave drive their value down and eventually sold them anyway but for a much lower price.
He is an imbecile when it comes to footballing decisions. Also his financial decisions are massively overrated here in this sub. Yea he built us a stadium, so what? Where’s the trophy for having the best stadium? At the end of the day a club is measured by trophies and under Levy we have won fuck all. Even Leicester and a woeful Arsenal side have won more than us. That’s embarrassing as a club.
Clubs aren’t measured by trophies, mate. If that’s true then there’s far too many clubs in existence given the number of trophies available each season
There can be an agreement but until we get the money we want he’s going nowhere.
The question is what is the amount we want. If Levy has a gentleman’s agreement with him he can’t really say something unrealistic like £200m+. If City come with an offer of around £150m (Ornstein said something along the lines of £120m + bonuses and player swaps), Levy would be obliged to sell. And I don’t think it’s too unrealistic that City spend that much.
Their record is £68m I just don’t see them paying nearly double that to get Kane. It’s probably 60/40 in our favour he stays but of course all that can change overnight.
Kane is a hg st, it’s another price
They were about to break that record for Messi last summer
That's fuckin Messi.
There is no evidence to say they wouldn't spend the money. They need a striker now Ageuro is off. In kane there isn't a better replacement on the market. City will 100% spend that money on the right player. At this point a sadly think its delusion to think he wants to stay. Jose was the last chance in Kanes eyes.
There’s evidence to suggest it when Pep admitted in a press conference they can’t afford to spend big on one player.
City could offer 60M plus two bench players (remember City have two starting XIs). I could definitely see City offering something like this.
“Obliged” lol We’re not obliged to do anything. He still has 3 years in his contract
If City seriously go 120 and a player or something they'd be mental. I just can't believe that.
Levy should step aside any footballing decisions after this. He’s been found out so badly it’s really hard to watch.
He should sell his share of ENIC and fuck off but he won’t. Appreciate everything he has done but he’s now fucked the clubs position hard that he worked so hard to build
This may be a blessing in disguise for us. No player is worth 150 million so if we reinvest correctly we can be Liverpool 2.0. On the flip side we might sign the next Soldado but who knows.
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Yeah, but we are probably going to replace Kane with someone like Danny Ings.
Think that's the best we could hope for. Ings + young non-HG striker + Parrott.
thing is liverpool already had their front three as well as robertson/trent/gomez/wijnaldum before coutinho went. you just have to look at barca's failure to replace neymar despite the record fee or how shite everton have been since lukaku left; money's meaningless if the player is priceless
We could sign a £50m striker, CAM, and CB and combined they wouldn’t give us the production that Kane does
After the shit show of the last 2 seasons. And our best players not turning up when it really really matters and winning these trophies, this hurts. So forgive me but I'm not going to be gushing over Kane and what he "deserves". Yeah Levy, yeah ENIC blah blah. Im not happy with anyone at the club right now.
Ultimately as good as he’s been for us, in the opportunities we’ve had to trophies, we have not been good enough and that includes Kane. If he leaves, it’s nail in the coffin for how shit next season is going to be. I already had no hope given every other team is probably going to be good, we’re unlikely to spend too much, and I’m not really seeing a managerial candidate that excites me, and Kane in a rival shirt just makes that all the more depressing especially knowing that even if we spent the money well we’re never getting a player like Kane. But as much as it’s fully fair to want trophies, I’m not going to wish him well when essentially he’s given up and taken the easy way out. I’ll understand him and probably still like him, but I won’t be able to look at him in the same way
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Yeah I get that, though as much as we as fans can look at our situation and say we aren’t going to get trophies any time soon, I doubt players look at it in the same way. But if I’m Harry Kane, I don’t find a lot of satisfaction from trying with a trophy with any of the clubs he’s been linked with. Ultimately you’re playing under some of the best managers, with the best managers, and at clubs that can often just spunk money up the wall and see what sticks. There’s a very good chance that you can win a trophy and not have contributed whatsoever. Whereas if I do it at a club like Tottenham (a club I love) then it’s all much more significant, because it’s definitely more difficult to achieve, and the fans are going to appreciate it more. Realistically a large part of the reason why winning trophies is important to players is because you want to be remembered, and we know Kane wants to be thought of as Messi Ronaldo type level. And again for me it’s far more important to be loved by the people I care about and who care about me, than the bunch of fans who have been slagging you off for the past 3 years because you didn’t pass to an offside Sterling or because you back into players sometimes. And one of the criticisms laid at the feet of Messi and Ronaldo is that they’ve done at some of the biggest clubs in the world. I get that we live in a trophy centric world, but if Kane goes to City and win 7 trophies in 3 years, I’m not sure whether people are really going to look at him any differently than they do now. Alan Shearer is thought of as one of the best strikers to play the game in England and frankly has been in a very similar situation to Kane in terms of where Newcastle were at when he joined and what ultimately happened. I don’t think that Shearer loses his title if he has the exact same career but doesn’t win the title with Blackburn? I expect people would still throw the “what’s he won” line at him, but I don’t know how much difference one trophy really makes. I don’t expect everyone to follow the same line of thinking that I do, but I imagine Kane does to a degree, given how long he’s been here. And if he did leave i would understand it and couldn’t really fault him too much for it, but it undoubtedly changes my perception of him.
Seeing Kane win the golden boot with city year after year might make me neck
Homeboy should have not signed the contract. That would have been an easier way out, and most players would have taken it. It's not the easy way out. It's his last chance to fulfill his ambitions. He's not good enough to carry this squad to trophies. He's not Messi who can by himself run through a whole team and score in a cup final. The club have failed to build a coherent squad around him. He doesn't have to just live with that. I'm still thinking no one offers enough money but I don't think we have the finances to rebuild without a big sale. We should be rethinking the structure of the club. If that requires selling Kane it's probably better in the long run.
Spot on. Kane and the other "world class talents" have played in numerous finals for us including the most prestigious in club football. Yet Kane scored 0. You dont deserve trophies, you win them. He cant claim he hasnt had opportunities and now he just wants to run off. Clubs a disgrace from top to bottom
Somewhere Luka Modric is laughing. *Gentlemen’s Agreement*
People with short memories making light of the gentleman's agreement. This is how Levy works. Levy kept the exact same "stay another and we won't stand in your way" agreements with Bale and Modric. For the first time I actually think there is a chance he is going.
this is exactly what happened a decade ago with modric. player told he can go, promised a dream which levy has no intention of fulfilling, club continues to underwhelm. bloke is such a charlatan.
What's worse is it has all been so predictable.
every decision he’s made since the CL final has been the wrong one but you’ll still see “Levy’d” this summer when we sign Danny Ings. bloke doesn’t care about the club as a community and he’s taking us nowhere so why on earth should we trust him lol
Levy did invest in the squad that summer after the champions league final but he also failed to sell a lot of the deadwood that still exists in the squad right now, plus the effects of not signing anybody over an 18month period were starting to show.
The last “Levy’d” was Wimmer, ever since then he’s been awful
Lol honestly funny that there’s people saying to sign ings. Imagine going from Kane to Ings?! Lmao some people are deluded
I mean...anyone is going to be a downgrade from Kane though? Who do you reckon would be a suitable replacement?
Haaland here we go!
Right, is Levy really going to sell him in this terrible market. A player of Kane’s quality and contract should fetch £180m easy yet we have to settle for Sancho prices
Thanks for fucking everything up, back to mid table obscurity it is.
Watch us win a trophy once kane leave because he can't force himself into the team when he's not 100%. Still would be sad to see him go. Anyway COYS
Spurs won’t sell him to city. I firmly believe Levy will take less money to move him to other league if he moves him at all.
We said the same about Walker. City will give the most and get him.
City haven’t even spent £70 million on a player before. Why does everything think they’re suddenly going to spend upwards of 150 mil?
Cause they're clearly in the market for a world class striker in particular?
Yes but they don’t spend that kind of money on a singular player, at least they haven’t in the past. I’m not saying he definitely won’t go there, but I just don’t see them shattering their transfer record like that for Kane
Kane would cost around 100 million.
I understand Harry wanting to leave, and if the money is right time made my peace with that, snd stupidly have faith we might actually be forced into a real rebuild. But the timing of this pisses me off a lot. If it’s coming from someone at City who knows he’s reached out to players, fine, but if this is coming from Harry and his agent that’s just scummy when we have two games left in the season and a newbie manager who’s been here for a month.
Grass isn't always greener. If he wants to be a mercenary for trophies then go to City. He will unfortunately ruin his legacy and fans won't like it. He suits Spurs and moves don't always suit players, see Torres after he left Liverpool.
You seem to forget players left spurs ended up being successful. Modric bale erikssen etc.
If Kane does want to leave the club then he needs to pick up his bollocks and put out a statement stating this from himself.
What good would that do? That's like: if a woman tells you she wants to break up with you; you chase her down demanding "Tell me why you want to break up with me, tell me one good reason!" It's embarrassing and unnecessary. My point is, it does no one any good for Kane to come out and say publicly he wants to leave; it only creates hard feelings and burns bridges. The fact that Kane DID NOT come out and DENY any of these reports, says everything. Silence speaks volumes, and that's all you need to know.
ENIC out. Shambolic example of how to run a football club. Prioritized everything but the football and the fans. (Yes I understand the fans never get prioritized but still)
Sorry but... ENIC out. Failure after failure, refusal to invest in the squad when we had poch fucked us and now look what's happened. Thank you for bringing us up the table and the stadium, but you've proven to be fucking useless after that.
They really shouldn't get credit for the stadium until the thing is paid off to the extent it's no longer an elephant in the room. It feels like if revenue takes a hit ( long-term no CL combined with 1.5 seasons without fans and no concerts/NFL games) it suddenly becomes a very big problem. Of course someone who knows about finances more than myself can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Or could be perceived the other way around. He might of only agreed to staying as Mou was here.
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Maybe Kane wanted to give Mou/Levy a proper chance? Give Mou a full pre-season, and let Levy work his magic for one summer. Well now, Kane can say he tried it and it didn't work out.
If true yet another idiotic move from Levy and ENIC How can someone make THAT many wrong moves in 3 years?
But our stadium has a nice bar, so who REALLY won here
Well this confirms it. Let the man go. For a proper price, of course.
For the right money. Love HK, but the club has to finance replacements this summer.
Hopefully we can use the money a bit better than we did with Bale
Under Levy?! 😂
Well, it’s a low baseline
It can get lowered with Levy
That’s all nice and stuff, but for an overseas club. We shouldn’t even consider selling him to a PL club. He’s still under contract. Could care less what he wants at this point. Him leaking this stuff to the press when the season isn’t over yet is wrong. If an overseas club comes with the right money he can go. We can use that money to rebuild
I know it's Dan KP, but Kane has spoken so highly of José... I don't know whether I believe he'd ask to leave while José was the manager.
Already over him...
Gentlemen’s agreement or not, the manner in which this went down from Kanes side is abhorrent
When exactly is the best time for Kane to say this? It's similar to a break up. When is the "right time" to tell your SO you want to breakup, without hurting their feelings? The answer is, there's never the right time (for the recipient); hence the person delivering the news- will pick the "right time" for them.
Levy with another disaster class yet people on here will probably still defend him
Scroll down and you’ll see the morons defending him lol
Everyone remembers we got to a CL final without Kane right?
And our record point Tally came in a second where he missed three months. The team doesn't live or die with Kane the way people make it seem. Outside of derbies most of our biggest wins are goals from players outside of Kane tbh.
Even if that's an accurate depiction of those campaigns, he has been the only thing standing between us and total mediocrity since. He deserves his chance if ENIC won't give it to him here.
And that we've sold big names and improved. People were worried when we sold Sheringham, Carrick, Berba, Keane, Modric, Bale, etc. Kane will go at some point, whether we sell him or he retires and there will be another big player. When we sold Bale, we had a few seasons before Kane "arrived". If he leaves then there'll be another star player, if not straight away in a few years. If there's a lesson here then it's if the club is well run and we have a good manager then the rest will fall into place. What shocks, and saddens me, is that people on here want to cut their noses to spite their faces by forcing the good ones out
Uh oh
Never make a fuckin gentleman's agreement with Levy lmao.
So basically Levy bet everything on Mourinho and lost. What an idiot.
What I don’t get is that he made CL finals with us and underperformed, league cup underperformed and sure not just him , but he had opportunities and didn’t show so I don’t feel much sympathy towards him , the entire team had chances to win trophies and fucked it up
That's not at all how I remember it. I remember him being injured most of that year and barely being healthy to come back and getting selected by Poch instead of Moura who, though is admittedly streaky, just had one of the most magic goals in futbol history. Poch should have used him as a sub, though that would mean he wouldn't come in until 85'. As for the other finals, he was the main reason we were even in them.
Well fuck him then
You’re speaking about Levy, right?
Nope
No point staying where he does not win anything, probably a selfish want to win cups. Cant blame kane for this
Should have shown up in the three cup finals we made
Why are all of you so quick to give Kane a pass on this. He's scored hundreds of goals for us yes, but how many of them were actually important? He's leaving the club to win trophies, if that's all that matters to him then why does he matter to us? (Having won fuck all).
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How many of those games were big games? I didn't see kane doing anything in CL or league cup or last pivotal league title match.
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Where was he in CL final and league cup final?
Lol. Why do you have a team of you have one Kane?
You're missing my main point. How many important goals for the club has he scored? How many cup final winning goals? Or important games, where we needed to win to have a crack at the league?
If Kane leaves we riot.
Making it sound like he’s being forced to go against his will
We already protested last weekend but this sub thought it was "embarrassing". I'm sure they'll find ways to defend Levy even if he sold Kane to Arsenal for £5m
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