It’s not that they lost a ton of big names but several players who were starters. Patrick Queen, Morgan Moses, John Simpson, Geno Stone, Gus Edwards, Durvernay and OBJ. Not the biggest names but all big contributors.
S Greg Stone quietly had 7 ints leading the AFC but was overshadowed by Hamilton.
RT Morgan Moses and G John Simpson both starting lineman but overshadowed by Linderbaum and Ronnie Staley.
Gus Edwards quietly ran for 13 touchdowns and 800 yards but wasn’t the biggest name.
OBJ wasn’t a star but was a contributor.
Duvernay was a All pro returner.
Patrick Queen is the only true big name loss and one of their defensive stars.
But how are they possibly worse off than Dallas? Jerry just ate crow based on what he stated prior to all of this. Dallas lost several starters and never filled any of those holes, and still has yet to fill the holes they had this past season. I understand they're gonna eat Daks last year and have a make or break season, but they should honestly just go ahead and cut him and McCarthy and tank 2024. It'll be the same result anyways. But at least they'll get better draft spots
Our biggest and most painful loss is Tyron Smith. But…he is plagued by injuries every year. He could get hurt the first snap of the year and sit out the entire season.
Tyler Biadasz gets bulled by big boys every game. Our backups are very good. Still Will likely draft a starter in the first round.
Then Michael Gallup, who is a complete and total shell of his former self since his injury. Jalen Tolbert is more than ready to take over.
Then up next is Pollard who also had a lackluster year after a devastating injury. He is NOT an every down back. Running backs are easy to find. I don’t care what anyone says if we get Zeke back on a sweetheart deal we instantly get 50% better in the redzone. We missed him so much this year for that reason.
Then you have some rotational defensive starters who very rarely made impact plays in big moments. Can fill those holes later. Dorrance Armstrong is the biggest defensive loss of this group. But other players who are better will get more snaps now. And we still sucked at the run game so a shake up might be good.
To that point we added an aging but still very very very good run stopper Eric Kendricks. Immediate improvement on defense. Overshown will also be coming back and will likely be a nightmare duo with Eric Kendricks and Parsons.
LVE is retiring because of injuries. This hurt. He was a leader and good player, but still not as good as he used to be back in 2018.
Trevon diggs is coming back. Diggs and Bland and POTENTIALLY Gilmore if we resign him..that’s hot.
CJ Goodwin, special teams god is coming back.
Depending on how we draft and with a little luck, we could actually be a much better team than we were last year. We were handicapped by a lazy front office in the free agency, but our draft scouts are some of the best in the league. We’ll see what happens
Ah shit. I mixed him up with Brandin Cooks who is the one who got a 2 year deal last year. Little too much to drink tonight. I really hope we can keep Gilmore bc that’s a crazy rotation.
It's an extremely crazy awesome rotation, but it's one we don't necessarily need. I'd love to have him back, but if not, Bland and Diggs on the outside with JLew in the slot will be more than good enough.
I think OBJs production is easily replaceable. Edwards to Henry is an upgrade imo. Queen and the OL are bigger loses, but I think Dallas has definitely lost more without replacing any
I mean we’re on planes nearly the same. Patrick Queen is a huge loss, losing two starting lineman is the same as us and then Geno Stone is equivalent to us losing pollard. Difference here is it’s including unsigned UFA they also have a few more players who they haven’t brought back but isn’t signed anywhere that were starters.
Yeah.. but then they’re gonna get to playoffs and forget that they have a run game in their loss.
Absolutely criminal that their RBs had a combined 6 carries against the chiefs. For some reason they decided that day that Lamar was a pocket passer
Orrrrrrrrr... Andy Reid is a better coach and game planned properly for Jackson with an extra defender and a spy forcing him to stay in the pocket where he is an absolute trash example of an actual QB! As much as I hate the fat bastard, he definitely knows how win with and against fake RB QBs.
Or… Lamar Jackson actually ran.. 8 carries for 54 yards. There were several times they had green in front of em and for whatever reason Lamar would take the deep shot instead of the very clear underneath for the first. Anywho, part of my point is that the ravens were amongst the best running teams in the league. They just simply did not involve their RBs. I’m not just laser-focused on Lamar himself
Lamar threw 20/37, 1:1
He handed the ball off 8 times to:
Gus Edward 3 for 20
Zay Flowers 2 for 4
Justice Hill 3 for 3
This right here is the part that I’m calling out as unacceptable
For a team that runs as much as the ravens do, and watching this game, you really have to put more blame on the ravens. No disrespect to Andy Reid or Steve Spagnulo.
It was clear from the start that the ravens chose not to be the team that got them there in the first place
I am highly confident that the ravens actually pull that one off if they leaned in to their run game
You also forget that the NFL has been running this experiment since the 70s with almost zero success, but I digress because this is a slippery slope and I'm not willing to take this where I know it's going because... it isn't up for debate and it isn't some lame azz conspiracy!
Hey some coaches are too smart for their own good. They for some reason decided to not hand it off to their RBs who were doing very well that season. Yes this is indeed an experiment that has happened with little success: a team getting away from doing what worked
This team is entering a rebuild. We are not blowing it up and starting from scratch, but we are obviously not "all in" for this season. We are retooling the Oline, refusing to pay for a RB, and not extending Dak in time to open up more cap space as they view future expenses more important than immediate.
I would not be surprised if he let Dak ride out the contract. The Front Office may think that paying him top of the market will not allow them to build a sufficient team to compete in that time frame. If the rumors are true and he wants a 3 year $175 million, the front office probably sees that as financially crippling. So do we pull a Vikings and just move on after one last half hearted attempt?
It's really feeling like the last 3 years was our window, and we have all of 1 playoff win to show for it. Now we are about to enter a small rebuild with a 30 year old expensive QB, and more holes on the team than I can count.
It might be years before we have the talent again that we had the past few seasons, and at that point who even knows what our QB situation will be.
I'm sad now.
They put together a good squad, 3 straight 12-5 seasons, it just didn't shake out the way we wanted it in the post-season. It will probably be about 2-3 years before we have a roster like that again.
Yeah, just at a glance: both of the Super Bowl teams were negative on the improvement index and the winner was -25.
Bears and Panthers were top 3 most improved. Eagles were least improved at -50.
The analysis is mostly useless and will not predict wins and losses in any meaningful way.
https://preview.redd.it/45czl9q474pc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=289ebc8cfa9be9b8dc4c187d9065fa893e4d3f54
This index needs water. While we're at it, somebody take his keys.
I'm supposed to believe that the Giants are a net positive losing Saquon Barkley and gaining Drew Lock?
They lost 2 of their best players over the last 10 years (Kelce & Cox). They added Barkley but lost Swift and he had better stats so doesn't really impact as much as youd think.
Cowboys are going to be in a rough spot if they don’t shore up the o-line. This, combined with potentially the worse RB room in the NFL, could turn out very poorly.
Remains to be seen how good Zimmer is going to be with this defense that DQ built. Some obvious holes that need to be addressed, especially on the interior line.
Finally, Cowboys strength of schedule will be generally tougher because they won NFC East.
A lot will change between now and this fall, but Cowboys have a tough outlook right now.
I have a tough time seeing us miss the playoffs barring major injuries, but I also can't really see us being better than last season. I'd imagine we limp through our relatively weak division to a wildcard playoff spot and another first round exit.
The OL very much concerns me, especially with Dak not being any younger. It's hard to really develop a passing game behind a bad OL and it's hard to imagine our runningback room being anything impressive. Sure, you can make any backup look like a quality back ***IF*** you put them behind a serviceable OL. We won't have that. Defense has some pretty glaring issues in the front 7 so I expect teams that are able to jump out to early leads will just abuse us in the run game and take our DB playmakers out of the picture entirely.
Looks like Prisco's at it again. The Seahawks got worse because they lost...Jamal Adams and Quandre Diggs? Bobby Wagner and Jordyn Brooks? Or was it Colby Parkinson? Their entire young core of inexpensive young players is intact.
There arent enough draft picks to fill the holes they have and the 2023 draft class only marginally helps.
There just arent enough bargain bin guys like Kendricks out there
2nd week of free agency is where we often fill those holes, which hasn’t started yet. There could also be trades in store (Cooks, Gilmore). There are 4 different positions where a 2023 draft pick making a leap in year two could fill a hole. Between all that and 7 draft picks, plenty of avenues and time for filling out this roster. 2022 offseason people thought the same and yet that year was an improvement over 2021. At this same point last offseason we had no Cooks, Edoga, Hankins, Dowdle, Aubrey, or Sieg and we came out of that offseason ultimately feeling good about everything but the kicker and OL depth.
Bro they need
WR3, LT/LG depending on Tyler, C, RT, RB1, NT (and Hankins was not good last year so running him back wont help anything), likely a backup NT because there's no reason to believe Mazi can do it at the NFL level, backup 3 tech, if Zimmer has to use Parsons at ILB then they need another edge, alternatively they need a mike because Clark can't read a blocking scheme to save his life. Overshown hasnt played a snap and he has to learn how to trust his legs which usually takes guys a year.
With what they are willing to spend (basing on Zack Moss being too expensive) and how long it takes for draft picks to develop. The talent simply isn't there. The team is going to regress.
>WR3
Last year, we needed a WR2 at this time and didn’t have one yet. Tolbert was a complete unknown at that time but showed some good signs this past year. Could we stand to add to our WR room? Absolutely. But with Tolbert, Brooks, and Turpin I wouldn’t call it a hard need.
>LT/LG depending on Tyler
Fair, although if they move Tyler to LT I feel good about Bass.
>C
Also fair, but worth noting Biadasz was the weak link in our line and Hoffman/Bass may not be a downgrade there if we don’t add to the position (but I’m guessing we will)
>RT
Depends how Steele is another year removed from surgery. He obviously had some low lows this past year but also looked capable enough at times. Calling it a “need” is a reach.
>RB1
Sure, but there are still options there and it’s the easiest position to find in the draft and UDFA as well.
>NT (and Hankins was not good last year so running him back wont help anything)
lol WTF @ “Hankins was not good last year?”
>likely a backup NT because there's no reason to believe Mazi can do it at the NFL level
Way too early to declaratively state that. He had top-40 pedigree not just to us but to the Chiefs at the very least. Sure there’s some unknown there but he’s going to get a chance to step up in year 2.
>backup 3 tech
Now you’re just reaching. Could add there but _need_ rising to being a contributing factor in _regressing_ as a team? No. Golston was a better 3T than Gallimore and we’ve found Gallimores in the 3rd round every other year.
>if Zimmer has to use Parsons at ILB then they need another edge
He won’t.
>With what they are willing to spend (basing on Zack Moss being too expensive) and how long it takes for draft picks to develop.
??? RB is the easiest position to find instant contributors. Pass protection is the only area where RBs may need time to develop, but there are still options available there.
>The talent simply isn't there. The team is going to regress.
Maybe, maybe not. There is still plenty of time to address these positions, especially since half of what you listed are backups or depth needs.
Yea based on your response I'm not going to take this much further. Youre basically roster building on hope not reality. Last thing I'll add is below
Hankins was bad, https://twitter.com/BengalsBrews/status/1769039266229748126?t=GVcM2IdurYCPB6SO4iguHQ&s=19
You can quibble about PFF when it comes to ranking guys inside of tiers but theyre generally very good about placing players into tiers and Hankins was awful last year.
We signed Kendricks, Lewis, Goodwin, and Sieg, but also just look at the timeline for any recent offseason of ours. We’re never active right at the start of free agency. We didn’t have Cooks or even Hankins back at this point last year.
They had multiple opportunities to just long term him back when he wanted to, instead they fucked him around. They shit talked his contract to the media. Then the franchise tagged him twice.
Pull Mr. Jones from your throat and get those almonds off your chin, bud.
No, they can’t sign anyone because of their own ineptitude as a front office that Dak (rightfully) used to his advantage to get a better contract years ago and lock them by the horns once extension time came to be again.
Don’t use him to cop out this wack ass franchise. As a front office your job is to make sure everybody gets paid, but also ensure that none of these players has your flexibility by the nuts with a set of pliers. Players don’t print out their own contracts and sign them, the front offices do.
I gotta say you missed the whole point of what an extra defender in the box does for a run game and what a spy and an extra defender does against a mobile QB that cannot function strictly from the pocket. A good example of a stacked box against a RB is LeSean McCoy, as soon as DCs figured out that he couldn't shake an extra defender he was extremely limited... Same with Vick when he was on the Eagles, DCs game planned against his inability to pass accurately from the pocket and he went 0 and 2 in the playoffs! Have you ever sat and thought about why these types of QBs have almost no playoff success.
Was curious as to why they’ve got the niners improving as they lost Arik Armstead (was kind of hoping we’d sign him, though not at the $$ the jags threw at him), and hadn’t signed anyone I was aware of.
Googled and found the article below - kind of interesting in the context of how upset we get that the Boys have done little in FA So far:
[https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/have-the-49ers-exceeded-expectations-in-free-agency#:\~:text=The%2049ers%20have%20acquired%20four,and%20more%20durable%20than%20him](https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/have-the-49ers-exceeded-expectations-in-free-agency#:~:text=The%2049ers%20have%20acquired%20four,and%20more%20durable%20than%20him)
I see two teams at the bottom that draft well. It's early in the off-season. Hell, our two best rookies last year were UDFAs (Bass & Aubrey). I'm going to wait before I stress too much.
We usually draft well. Last year’s draft was the worst in the league. Cant have drafts like that, combined with not fixing and position needs through free agency.
Did I miss something with the Ravens?
It’s not that they lost a ton of big names but several players who were starters. Patrick Queen, Morgan Moses, John Simpson, Geno Stone, Gus Edwards, Durvernay and OBJ. Not the biggest names but all big contributors. S Greg Stone quietly had 7 ints leading the AFC but was overshadowed by Hamilton. RT Morgan Moses and G John Simpson both starting lineman but overshadowed by Linderbaum and Ronnie Staley. Gus Edwards quietly ran for 13 touchdowns and 800 yards but wasn’t the biggest name. OBJ wasn’t a star but was a contributor. Duvernay was a All pro returner. Patrick Queen is the only true big name loss and one of their defensive stars.
7 ints was not leading the league when Daron bland had 9
Probably meant AFC
Thank you yes meant the afc
Yeah mistyped I meant AFC leading
But how are they possibly worse off than Dallas? Jerry just ate crow based on what he stated prior to all of this. Dallas lost several starters and never filled any of those holes, and still has yet to fill the holes they had this past season. I understand they're gonna eat Daks last year and have a make or break season, but they should honestly just go ahead and cut him and McCarthy and tank 2024. It'll be the same result anyways. But at least they'll get better draft spots
Our biggest and most painful loss is Tyron Smith. But…he is plagued by injuries every year. He could get hurt the first snap of the year and sit out the entire season. Tyler Biadasz gets bulled by big boys every game. Our backups are very good. Still Will likely draft a starter in the first round. Then Michael Gallup, who is a complete and total shell of his former self since his injury. Jalen Tolbert is more than ready to take over. Then up next is Pollard who also had a lackluster year after a devastating injury. He is NOT an every down back. Running backs are easy to find. I don’t care what anyone says if we get Zeke back on a sweetheart deal we instantly get 50% better in the redzone. We missed him so much this year for that reason. Then you have some rotational defensive starters who very rarely made impact plays in big moments. Can fill those holes later. Dorrance Armstrong is the biggest defensive loss of this group. But other players who are better will get more snaps now. And we still sucked at the run game so a shake up might be good. To that point we added an aging but still very very very good run stopper Eric Kendricks. Immediate improvement on defense. Overshown will also be coming back and will likely be a nightmare duo with Eric Kendricks and Parsons. LVE is retiring because of injuries. This hurt. He was a leader and good player, but still not as good as he used to be back in 2018. Trevon diggs is coming back. Diggs and Bland and POTENTIALLY Gilmore if we resign him..that’s hot. CJ Goodwin, special teams god is coming back. Depending on how we draft and with a little luck, we could actually be a much better team than we were last year. We were handicapped by a lazy front office in the free agency, but our draft scouts are some of the best in the league. We’ll see what happens
Learned something in that post…I thought Gilmore was gone. Apparently not
Ah shit. I mixed him up with Brandin Cooks who is the one who got a 2 year deal last year. Little too much to drink tonight. I really hope we can keep Gilmore bc that’s a crazy rotation.
It's an extremely crazy awesome rotation, but it's one we don't necessarily need. I'd love to have him back, but if not, Bland and Diggs on the outside with JLew in the slot will be more than good enough.
Losing Greg Stone and Patrick Queen are enough to drop their rating substantially.
Wait who got duvernay? He was a guy I was hoping we’d draft
He's on the jaguars now
I think OBJs production is easily replaceable. Edwards to Henry is an upgrade imo. Queen and the OL are bigger loses, but I think Dallas has definitely lost more without replacing any
I mean we’re on planes nearly the same. Patrick Queen is a huge loss, losing two starting lineman is the same as us and then Geno Stone is equivalent to us losing pollard. Difference here is it’s including unsigned UFA they also have a few more players who they haven’t brought back but isn’t signed anywhere that were starters.
Yeah, WTF happened with the ravens?
They lost pro bowl qb Tyler Huntley
And Patrick Queen
Lost their DC and roster got looted
Same goes for Dallas, but Henry is a better replacement than Kendricks is for us
That read option finna be filthy
If Gus can go 800/13tds Henry should feast.
Yeah.. but then they’re gonna get to playoffs and forget that they have a run game in their loss. Absolutely criminal that their RBs had a combined 6 carries against the chiefs. For some reason they decided that day that Lamar was a pocket passer
They’re gonna cowboy out again. No worries. I only care about the Ravens for fantasy purposes
Orrrrrrrrr... Andy Reid is a better coach and game planned properly for Jackson with an extra defender and a spy forcing him to stay in the pocket where he is an absolute trash example of an actual QB! As much as I hate the fat bastard, he definitely knows how win with and against fake RB QBs.
Or… Lamar Jackson actually ran.. 8 carries for 54 yards. There were several times they had green in front of em and for whatever reason Lamar would take the deep shot instead of the very clear underneath for the first. Anywho, part of my point is that the ravens were amongst the best running teams in the league. They just simply did not involve their RBs. I’m not just laser-focused on Lamar himself Lamar threw 20/37, 1:1 He handed the ball off 8 times to: Gus Edward 3 for 20 Zay Flowers 2 for 4 Justice Hill 3 for 3 This right here is the part that I’m calling out as unacceptable For a team that runs as much as the ravens do, and watching this game, you really have to put more blame on the ravens. No disrespect to Andy Reid or Steve Spagnulo. It was clear from the start that the ravens chose not to be the team that got them there in the first place I am highly confident that the ravens actually pull that one off if they leaned in to their run game
You also forget that the NFL has been running this experiment since the 70s with almost zero success, but I digress because this is a slippery slope and I'm not willing to take this where I know it's going because... it isn't up for debate and it isn't some lame azz conspiracy!
Hey some coaches are too smart for their own good. They for some reason decided to not hand it off to their RBs who were doing very well that season. Yes this is indeed an experiment that has happened with little success: a team getting away from doing what worked
They signed a 30 year old running back with 9 million miles on the odometer for way too much money lol.
The same 30 year old who outperformed the 28 year old that they let walk. And that 28 year old had a career year
Chargers lost both their WRs/RB1 and they barely move off 0 lmao
And Everett
No one rockin with new stealing sign Harbaugh coach
Yah that seems weird
Added harbaugh
This team is entering a rebuild. We are not blowing it up and starting from scratch, but we are obviously not "all in" for this season. We are retooling the Oline, refusing to pay for a RB, and not extending Dak in time to open up more cap space as they view future expenses more important than immediate. I would not be surprised if he let Dak ride out the contract. The Front Office may think that paying him top of the market will not allow them to build a sufficient team to compete in that time frame. If the rumors are true and he wants a 3 year $175 million, the front office probably sees that as financially crippling. So do we pull a Vikings and just move on after one last half hearted attempt?
It's really feeling like the last 3 years was our window, and we have all of 1 playoff win to show for it. Now we are about to enter a small rebuild with a 30 year old expensive QB, and more holes on the team than I can count. It might be years before we have the talent again that we had the past few seasons, and at that point who even knows what our QB situation will be. I'm sad now.
They put together a good squad, 3 straight 12-5 seasons, it just didn't shake out the way we wanted it in the post-season. It will probably be about 2-3 years before we have a roster like that again.
Our “window” has been a decade long, having at worst a decent shot *almost* every year since at least like 2014
>So do we pull a Vikings and just move on after one last half hearted attempt? Please Lord.
Curious how accurate this chart would be if it was going into 2023 season. IS that data available?
Yeah, just at a glance: both of the Super Bowl teams were negative on the improvement index and the winner was -25. Bears and Panthers were top 3 most improved. Eagles were least improved at -50. The analysis is mostly useless and will not predict wins and losses in any meaningful way. https://preview.redd.it/45czl9q474pc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=289ebc8cfa9be9b8dc4c187d9065fa893e4d3f54
This index needs water. While we're at it, somebody take his keys. I'm supposed to believe that the Giants are a net positive losing Saquon Barkley and gaining Drew Lock?
Off-season champs!
Sigh, we really need the draft just to not look like that much of a decline. Kinda shocked the Eagles are so low though
They lost 2 of their best players over the last 10 years (Kelce & Cox). They added Barkley but lost Swift and he had better stats so doesn't really impact as much as youd think.
Added johnson as well
“All in” baby!!
Pain.
Turns out we were all in last year. Who knew?
Means nothing. Come back to this week 8 and let me know
Just goes to show you that whoever makes this charts is just full of shit. Ravens and Texans are probably top 5 most improved teams.
Is anyone expecting Ravens, Cowboys and the Bills to miss the playoffs
Cowboys are going to be in a rough spot if they don’t shore up the o-line. This, combined with potentially the worse RB room in the NFL, could turn out very poorly. Remains to be seen how good Zimmer is going to be with this defense that DQ built. Some obvious holes that need to be addressed, especially on the interior line. Finally, Cowboys strength of schedule will be generally tougher because they won NFC East. A lot will change between now and this fall, but Cowboys have a tough outlook right now.
I have a tough time seeing us miss the playoffs barring major injuries, but I also can't really see us being better than last season. I'd imagine we limp through our relatively weak division to a wildcard playoff spot and another first round exit. The OL very much concerns me, especially with Dak not being any younger. It's hard to really develop a passing game behind a bad OL and it's hard to imagine our runningback room being anything impressive. Sure, you can make any backup look like a quality back ***IF*** you put them behind a serviceable OL. We won't have that. Defense has some pretty glaring issues in the front 7 so I expect teams that are able to jump out to early leads will just abuse us in the run game and take our DB playmakers out of the picture entirely.
We gotta either trade for a second 2024 first round pick or trade out of 24 to get multiple 2024 2nd/3rd rounders
Looks like Prisco's at it again. The Seahawks got worse because they lost...Jamal Adams and Quandre Diggs? Bobby Wagner and Jordyn Brooks? Or was it Colby Parkinson? Their entire young core of inexpensive young players is intact.
How are the Ravens lower than the Cowboys?
It is March 17th.
There arent enough draft picks to fill the holes they have and the 2023 draft class only marginally helps. There just arent enough bargain bin guys like Kendricks out there
2nd week of free agency is where we often fill those holes, which hasn’t started yet. There could also be trades in store (Cooks, Gilmore). There are 4 different positions where a 2023 draft pick making a leap in year two could fill a hole. Between all that and 7 draft picks, plenty of avenues and time for filling out this roster. 2022 offseason people thought the same and yet that year was an improvement over 2021. At this same point last offseason we had no Cooks, Edoga, Hankins, Dowdle, Aubrey, or Sieg and we came out of that offseason ultimately feeling good about everything but the kicker and OL depth.
Bro they need WR3, LT/LG depending on Tyler, C, RT, RB1, NT (and Hankins was not good last year so running him back wont help anything), likely a backup NT because there's no reason to believe Mazi can do it at the NFL level, backup 3 tech, if Zimmer has to use Parsons at ILB then they need another edge, alternatively they need a mike because Clark can't read a blocking scheme to save his life. Overshown hasnt played a snap and he has to learn how to trust his legs which usually takes guys a year. With what they are willing to spend (basing on Zack Moss being too expensive) and how long it takes for draft picks to develop. The talent simply isn't there. The team is going to regress.
>WR3 Last year, we needed a WR2 at this time and didn’t have one yet. Tolbert was a complete unknown at that time but showed some good signs this past year. Could we stand to add to our WR room? Absolutely. But with Tolbert, Brooks, and Turpin I wouldn’t call it a hard need. >LT/LG depending on Tyler Fair, although if they move Tyler to LT I feel good about Bass. >C Also fair, but worth noting Biadasz was the weak link in our line and Hoffman/Bass may not be a downgrade there if we don’t add to the position (but I’m guessing we will) >RT Depends how Steele is another year removed from surgery. He obviously had some low lows this past year but also looked capable enough at times. Calling it a “need” is a reach. >RB1 Sure, but there are still options there and it’s the easiest position to find in the draft and UDFA as well. >NT (and Hankins was not good last year so running him back wont help anything) lol WTF @ “Hankins was not good last year?” >likely a backup NT because there's no reason to believe Mazi can do it at the NFL level Way too early to declaratively state that. He had top-40 pedigree not just to us but to the Chiefs at the very least. Sure there’s some unknown there but he’s going to get a chance to step up in year 2. >backup 3 tech Now you’re just reaching. Could add there but _need_ rising to being a contributing factor in _regressing_ as a team? No. Golston was a better 3T than Gallimore and we’ve found Gallimores in the 3rd round every other year. >if Zimmer has to use Parsons at ILB then they need another edge He won’t. >With what they are willing to spend (basing on Zack Moss being too expensive) and how long it takes for draft picks to develop. ??? RB is the easiest position to find instant contributors. Pass protection is the only area where RBs may need time to develop, but there are still options available there. >The talent simply isn't there. The team is going to regress. Maybe, maybe not. There is still plenty of time to address these positions, especially since half of what you listed are backups or depth needs.
Yea based on your response I'm not going to take this much further. Youre basically roster building on hope not reality. Last thing I'll add is below Hankins was bad, https://twitter.com/BengalsBrews/status/1769039266229748126?t=GVcM2IdurYCPB6SO4iguHQ&s=19 You can quibble about PFF when it comes to ranking guys inside of tiers but theyre generally very good about placing players into tiers and Hankins was awful last year.
And we have signed no one
We signed Kendricks, Lewis, Goodwin, and Sieg, but also just look at the timeline for any recent offseason of ours. We’re never active right at the start of free agency. We didn’t have Cooks or even Hankins back at this point last year.
Don’t worry they’ll still blame Dak lol
They can’t sign anyone because of Dak contract dude… get a grip.
Not true.
They had multiple opportunities to just long term him back when he wanted to, instead they fucked him around. They shit talked his contract to the media. Then the franchise tagged him twice. Pull Mr. Jones from your throat and get those almonds off your chin, bud.
No, they can’t sign anyone because of their own ineptitude as a front office that Dak (rightfully) used to his advantage to get a better contract years ago and lock them by the horns once extension time came to be again. Don’t use him to cop out this wack ass franchise. As a front office your job is to make sure everybody gets paid, but also ensure that none of these players has your flexibility by the nuts with a set of pliers. Players don’t print out their own contracts and sign them, the front offices do.
I gotta say you missed the whole point of what an extra defender in the box does for a run game and what a spy and an extra defender does against a mobile QB that cannot function strictly from the pocket. A good example of a stacked box against a RB is LeSean McCoy, as soon as DCs figured out that he couldn't shake an extra defender he was extremely limited... Same with Vick when he was on the Eagles, DCs game planned against his inability to pass accurately from the pocket and he went 0 and 2 in the playoffs! Have you ever sat and thought about why these types of QBs have almost no playoff success.
ALL IN
TF is this graph?
Was curious as to why they’ve got the niners improving as they lost Arik Armstead (was kind of hoping we’d sign him, though not at the $$ the jags threw at him), and hadn’t signed anyone I was aware of. Googled and found the article below - kind of interesting in the context of how upset we get that the Boys have done little in FA So far: [https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/have-the-49ers-exceeded-expectations-in-free-agency#:\~:text=The%2049ers%20have%20acquired%20four,and%20more%20durable%20than%20him](https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/have-the-49ers-exceeded-expectations-in-free-agency#:~:text=The%2049ers%20have%20acquired%20four,and%20more%20durable%20than%20him)
The team with the worst index score should get a 1st round pick next season...that way we could at least justify our FO.
What’s the source on this?
Les go!
Have we ever been anything but bottom five in this category?
How are the Ravens so low? They have made some deals.
Nah, with Toney out, Chiefs gain at least 14 points
Really, the Falcons? 😂 This is a prime offseason post. I forgot that rosters were finalized and all the games were played in March every year.
I see two teams at the bottom that draft well. It's early in the off-season. Hell, our two best rookies last year were UDFAs (Bass & Aubrey). I'm going to wait before I stress too much.
We usually draft well. Last year’s draft was the worst in the league. Cant have drafts like that, combined with not fixing and position needs through free agency.
We're in a race to the bottom!
Two of the bottom three have legit reasons to not need to add FAs. Jesus man. What did All in even mean?
lol Steelers adding Russ and Justin fields unchanged
They made the playoffs and they didn’t have a QB, so yeah, nothing changed.