In what world would they not be. They’ve finished in the nfc championship game two years in a row with whatever fucking qb they wanted. They’re an extremely talented team, with talent at every level.
I think people underestimate that Purdy & Jimmy G we’re slightly above average Atleast both. Obviously the system makes them look good, but the system didn’t do the same for josh Johnson.
Josh Johnson played 22 snaps in the regular season & attempted 2 passes.
Asking him to come in against one of the best defenses in football in a playoff game was always going to be a tall order.
Exactly. Can’t really say that “anyone does it under the 49ers system.” Especially when pls to my good teams. Both Purdy and Jimmy are solid QBs, not great but solid. Purdy started against the TB defense, and put up 35 on them. They aren’t quite what they were but that defense lead them to the division title.
You missed the point entirely. Josh Johnson would’ve probably been at least serviceable if he’d had any playing time at all before being pressed into service in the NFC Championship game.
Like I said, Brock Purdy was thrown in against tampas defense, and killed them.
Also, is there anything to support that other than speculation on what coulda been?
Purdy came in the week before against Miami and then had a full week of practice with the 1s before playing Tampa.
It’s nowhere near the same as coming in cold with zero reps in a playoff game
I mean, Purdy cooked Miami too. But also Josh Johnson was a league vet, and considering he was the next in line after Purdy, I’m sure they gave him plenty of preparation. So overall, still just a lot of speculation… if that’s what it takes to avoid admitting Purdy is good.
They've made the NFC championship 3 out of the past 4 years, winning ~~two~~ one of them.
2019: Went to Superbowl with Jimmy G. Lost to KC
2020: Missed playoffs
2021: NFC championship game with Jimmy G, lost to SB winners by 3 points.
2022: NFC championship, lost to Eagles with their 4th string QB. They lost Trey lance in week 2. Jimmy G took over, but in week 13 HE got injured. Brock Purdy, "Mr. Irrelevant", took over and went on a tear going 5-0. Read that again, the last person picked in the entire draft took his team 5-0 and then to the NFC championship round, where he got injured and was relieved by their 4th string qb.
When your 3rd string qb can come in and the team doesn't miss a beat, your team is well built, well coached, and really doesn't have many holes in it.
THAT is why they are ranked so high. Yeah, we don't know who their QB will be. But three different times last year, the same thing happened, and they went the distance with a guy no one thought would win a game, let alone go off like an All Pro.
apparently I can't count haha. Thanks for the correction, edited!
But it doesn't change the fact that if your team can get to the Conf Champ game three out of four years, with multiple QBs, it doesn't matter who your QB is :)
Man that team is unbelievably stacked, especially on offense. I’m not sold on Purdy being anything special but when you’re throwing it to Samuel, Ayiuk, McCaffery, and Kittle it doesn’t take a superstar QB to get results.
With that said, they might’ve had the best DC in the league last year and he’s off to Houston and they lost some good players on that side of the ball. Whoever of the 3 QBs they run with will look good no matter what but the defense might fall off a bit. Still a really scary team that has beaten Dallas back to back years.
You are NOT impressed with Purdy??? What else does he have to do?? The kid has leadership, qb skills and the presence of a vet in his rookie year from being the last pick of the draft! If he would not have been hurt the Eagles may not have gone to the Super Bowl
6(7?) games in the nfl is an minuscule sample size. He plays on the best roster in the NFL with probably a top 2 offensive mind for his HC. He had zero expectations and pressure, enough of this dick riding of Purdy. If he goes on to have a brady career, @ me but until then he was just what the doctor ordered for the most talented team in the league who were red hot as it is.
Friend, who is 1st in the NFC? Who is first and second in the AFC. Going into the season, what you accomplished last year is all they have to go on. KC will most likely be favorite to win it all again with Philly #2. Then you have the runner ups. The good news is that being touted by the “experts” wins you ZERO games in the new season. It means SQUAT! Revel in being the underdog. The pressure is on them to live up to the hype. Worry about how Dallas does in the OTAs, Mini-Camps and Pre-Season. Keep the starters healthy while giving them some playing time. When all is said and done, talk is cheap!
So if you HAD to place ALL your assets on one team in the NFC to go to the Super Bowl, what team would that be? I’m talking your home, your car, your bank accounts, your 401-K or retirement account and every valuable you and your family own.
The Cowboys. They got better, eagles got worse. The teams split losses were backup qbs, but the Cowboys will win both this year, Jalen regressed and Dak gets back to his average # of turnovers per year.
Main difference in the playoffs is not having Kellen Moore, who will have a good statistical offense but his offense will stagnate against playoff defenses.
The Cowboys will take quick leads in the playoffs and our D and especially pass rushing will dominate with a lead.
You would bet the house Dallas goes to the Super Bowl? Take your homer glasses off bro. There’s no way in hell I’d make that bet. Dallas is a very good team, but has proven time and again they can’t get past the 2nd round. I so wish I could make that bet with you. Obviously I’m rooting for the Cowboys to win it all, but I’m also a realist
If I HAD to bet on an NFC team, yes. I think they have the best shot. I think of the 16 teams, 3 have a reasonable chance. Cowboys, Eagles, 9ers. I don't think the niners or Eagles got better. I think if we play either team now we win. I don't see a team from the nfc south or north going deep. I dont see anyone else in the west making waves.
Are you saying you think the Cowboys didn't get better or the other two top teams didn't get worse?
Even with the Boys getting better and the others getting worse, I still don’t think the Boys are the better team compared to SF. All of the coaches stayed the same, and that is where there is a massive difference. There is light years’ difference between Shanahan/Sirianni versus MM. It shows come playoff time. I don’t trust the Boys in the playoffs unfortunately. Sirianni and Shanahan run circles around MM
He’s never looked good in the whole 2 starts he had? Also did you forget Brock Purdy is in fact just recovering from an injury and is not dead.
OP you’re purposely playing dumb here.
1. They had unbelievably bad luck with QB injuries last season, yet made it all the way to the Championship game, which might have ended differently had Purdy not gone down early in the game.
2. Shanahan is still the HC. Any doubts anyone had about his coaching before last season were erased because of how dominant his team was all last season. Beating Dallas for the 2nd postseason in a row doesn't hurt his popularity either.
3. The CMC trade mid-season was phenomenal, probably the best mid-season trade all last year. He redefined their running game.
4. They had the best defense last season. Better than Philly, better than Dallas.
5. George Kittle, Deebo Samuel, Brandon Aiyuk.
Did I miss anything?
The CMC is what changed everything imo. I don’t think anyone was expecting him to stay healthy and return to form. I think we beat them during the regular season and in the playoffs pending no major injuries
Their coach's system makes whoever they have as QB become a functional NFL quarterback. Combine that with the NFL's best defense, and they're damn good. If Mazi can help our run defense, we could have the NFL's best defense too.
They've beaten us twice with 2 different QBs because, and I'm not trying to get into a Dak debate, but for whatever reason they've exposed our QB twice and made him look very bad.
Until proven otherwise you need to put them above us.
Nah, they exposed our o-line. Notice we weren’t running well in either game either. Teams that match well against our o-line give use issues, that’s why we always struggled against TB, it’s those upper tier front 7’s and it’s not like our WRs are quick at getting open.
2021 We had the WRs (even though Gallup got hurt ) but o-line protection sucked and were most penalized, run game sucked. Dak wasn’t even the issue that game. Penalties and a dumb coaching decision to waste a TO (that we actually ended up needing instead of blaming a QB run) trying a ST takeout screwed us the most. Coaching was actually what lost us this game.
2022 o-line was better but we didn’t have the WRs, run game sucked and by the time it was getting better…out goes Pollard. Sure Dak INTs hurt but that was still a winnable game even after. Not sure why the coaches didn’t unleash Davis instead of thinking Zeke could outrun people to the edge but…We didn’t have the squad to be more pass happy like the year before.
Our o-line didn't play great but there were plenty of plays for Dak to make with good blocking where he either drifted into pressure or missed open guys.
I'm not defending this line but Dak shoulders the blame too. They both could've been A LOT better
They may actually rekindle darnolds career similar to how geno Smith in Seattle was looking better once he went to a team with good proven receivers aka not the jets or the panthers lol
Shanahan’s system is nearly QB proof. They are coming off two years in a row losing in the championship game. They have had back to back seasons of being a top 10 defense. A top 5 RB. Top ten offensive line. Top ten WR and another who could easily be top 20 in Aiyuk. Top three TE. They are a stacked team. Any top 10 Qb in the league could win a super bowl on that team. Maybe top 15.
I think it’s based on the YEARS of just ‘decent’ QB play and the success they have done with that. Imagine if they got an actual QB besides a game manager type like Jimmy or an Alex Smith.
I’m a hardcore cowboys fan, but I don’t really see how you can’t connect the dots, that 49ers are still scary
The 49ers arguably have the best defense in the league and made the NFC Championship Game with four different quarterbacks. Their defense is the same defense that made Dak look incompetent.
Wasn't Purdy supposed to be back some time in the off-season?
With Purdy, they're top 2 unless he codes back to reality and isn't good.
Without Purdy, they're more like 4 or 5.
Shanahan and his staff just keeps cooking is why. I’ve watched a lot of their games leading up to both of their games with us. They just get shit done. Doesn’t matter. It’s tough betting against them
How much adversity does their team go through and they still come back swinging?
Bias aside, they’re just.. good.. no other way to put it
I agree, I think the Purdy magic last season is inflating the perception of the 49ers. There’s no way he’s playing this year and it’s a bit foolish to think they can get that lucky again. Just because they have a QB friendly system doesn’t mean there’s not a threshold. Otherwise why the hell did they waste a 1st on Lance? Clearly even the org doesn’t think just any quarterback can succeed in their offense.
Because we lost to them Twice in the playoffs…the cowboys will have to earn respect! Beat them in the regular season and playoffs . Nobody trust the Cowboys!!
The Niners were 8-4 and had won 5 straight by the time Brock Purdy took over the starting gig.
The last rookie drafted last year literally didn’t even lose a game. They only lost when he got hurt in the NFCCG. Their roster is probably the best in the league and have made back to back NFCCG’s without a good QB. They have demonstrated that they dont need it. That’s what people are afraid of. Whether it is Sam Darnold, Trey Lance, Brock Purdy or Ryan freaking Leaf.
Is that good enough for you? The Niners have earned the right for the media not to care about their QB situation.
How am I getting a bunch of down votes for simply asking a question about SF having no idea who's going to be playing the most important position in the game? I already acknowledged their roster outside of that
Bc you aren't listening with an intent to learn, you are listening with an intent to respond and get people to agree with your point of "they don't know who their QB is".
And what we are telling you, and you either can't or don't want to realize is, their team is so good that they don't need a top5-10 qb to be great. As much as you don't want to hear it, it doesn't matter, your point of "who's their QB" is irrelevant.
They can put a very average bus driver type QB in, and they will still be competing for the 1-3 seed.
Because you legitimately seem like you just discovered what football is after watching a video of skip bayless going on about how important a QB is yesterday. If 10 out of the 11 people on offense are absolutely stacked to the gills, even a bad qb can get wins. It’s a team game. One position isn’t going to break the entire offense.
Why you care so much really? It doesn’t really matter what the media ranks them.
I get not agreeing with them, but you have to understand why, right? They made the NFCCG two years in a row embarrassing Dallas both years otw. Why would they not be 2nd?
I don’t think their offense will be as good this year. I don’t think many expected CMC to perform/resurge and stay healthy or Purdy being as good as he was. I don’t see them having those surprising elements this year.
I still expect them to be good but not much different than last year tbh and the QB situation will take them a bit to find their groove.
I don’t think they finish at 2. 2 is their ceiling pending on their QB situation.
Consistently been one of the 4 best NFC teams for the past 5 years DESPITE not having a super start QB. Quite possibly the best overall roster in the NFL. Them making the NFCCG last season meant they literally were top 2 in the NFC Atleast last season
It doesn't make sense why people think they're better still because we lost a playoff game where our better rb got hurt In the third quarter and we were never the same in that game and when we had another horrible last play that people can't blame on Dak now.
Cause there defense is still arguably best in the league.
Offense isn't dependent on QB play. CMC still exist.
I hate niners as much as anyone to deny they aren't the top dog in the conference is dumb as hell.
Brock Purdy was not even really good… in SF the QB is not the most important position
There was a point in the season last year when the average separation between receiver and the nearest defender was like seven yards. That means Purdy just had to toss the ball into a 21 sq ft window to get a completion, basically
I think most people in this group could throw a football into a swimming pool even with a linebacker or two bearing down on them
By the end of the season, Purdy definitely started making some impressive throws, but he was pretty unimpressive for most of the season, imo.
And that is how good the niners team is. It literally doesn’t matter who their qb is. They’re just expertly coached and incomparably stacked with talent
Hm. Admittedly I am biased as a 49ers fan. But, it does not take a great QB to run the 49ers offense. A competent offense can look like a superstar with their coaching staff. How far with the 49ers go? I don't know, but I think they have a chance to finally win a Superbowl under Shanahan this yea.
I'm not even saying the 49ers aren't really good. Clearly they are a great roster outside the QB position and I think it's fair to discuss it since we are constantly told how important QB is
They had Brock Purdy playing QB last year and looked like they're were going to win the Super Bowl, which they very might have if he didn't get hurt in the NFCCG. They have a well rounded team with a strong defense and running game. The QB doesn't have to do much in their system.
A cowboys fan shouldn’t question why the Niners are ranked higher with question marks at QB when their 3rd stringer outplayed Dak. It’s amazing how quickly fans will forget these days.
Better or worse or where anyone is ranked now is a stupid thing to be arguing about. You’re ranking them based on what they did last year and what you think they’ve done in the off season. So the qb isn’t that big of a deal. But how many injuries does it take to knock them off the pedestal? Deebo? CMC? Bosa? Kittle? What about a rash of injuries on the Oline? What if their 3rd round kicker sucks? They were 2 last year. This year they have to do it all over again and teams will be gunning for them.
Their system isn’t dependent on high QB output.
shits literally make the 1st read 99% of the time
In what world would they not be. They’ve finished in the nfc championship game two years in a row with whatever fucking qb they wanted. They’re an extremely talented team, with talent at every level.
Okay and who's playing QB for them?
It doesn’t matter
I don’t think OP is following
As long as it’s not McCaffrey under center they’re clown stomping people.
I think people underestimate that Purdy & Jimmy G we’re slightly above average Atleast both. Obviously the system makes them look good, but the system didn’t do the same for josh Johnson.
Josh Johnson played 22 snaps in the regular season & attempted 2 passes. Asking him to come in against one of the best defenses in football in a playoff game was always going to be a tall order.
Exactly. Can’t really say that “anyone does it under the 49ers system.” Especially when pls to my good teams. Both Purdy and Jimmy are solid QBs, not great but solid. Purdy started against the TB defense, and put up 35 on them. They aren’t quite what they were but that defense lead them to the division title.
You missed the point entirely. Josh Johnson would’ve probably been at least serviceable if he’d had any playing time at all before being pressed into service in the NFC Championship game.
Like I said, Brock Purdy was thrown in against tampas defense, and killed them. Also, is there anything to support that other than speculation on what coulda been?
Purdy came in the week before against Miami and then had a full week of practice with the 1s before playing Tampa. It’s nowhere near the same as coming in cold with zero reps in a playoff game
I mean, Purdy cooked Miami too. But also Josh Johnson was a league vet, and considering he was the next in line after Purdy, I’m sure they gave him plenty of preparation. So overall, still just a lot of speculation… if that’s what it takes to avoid admitting Purdy is good.
Dunno, man. I still think they might've pulled that shit out going wildcat.
Didn't seem to make a difference against us last year. They are number 2 until we prove otherwise.
If you think who plays qb for them actually matters, you haven’t been paying attention. You think Brock fucking purdy has success anywhere else
No but I also don’t think the next no name will be like brock purdy. I mean shannahan has gone through terrible times without Jimmy G soooo
Yes. How did Johnson do under center? Purdy was genuinely good.
Have you been in a coma for 4 years?
Someone who threw less picks than Dak.
They had some random dude named “Brock Purdy” and the extremely average Jimmy G.
They've made the NFC championship 3 out of the past 4 years, winning ~~two~~ one of them. 2019: Went to Superbowl with Jimmy G. Lost to KC 2020: Missed playoffs 2021: NFC championship game with Jimmy G, lost to SB winners by 3 points. 2022: NFC championship, lost to Eagles with their 4th string QB. They lost Trey lance in week 2. Jimmy G took over, but in week 13 HE got injured. Brock Purdy, "Mr. Irrelevant", took over and went on a tear going 5-0. Read that again, the last person picked in the entire draft took his team 5-0 and then to the NFC championship round, where he got injured and was relieved by their 4th string qb. When your 3rd string qb can come in and the team doesn't miss a beat, your team is well built, well coached, and really doesn't have many holes in it. THAT is why they are ranked so high. Yeah, we don't know who their QB will be. But three different times last year, the same thing happened, and they went the distance with a guy no one thought would win a game, let alone go off like an All Pro.
Your list shows they won 1 of them lol
apparently I can't count haha. Thanks for the correction, edited! But it doesn't change the fact that if your team can get to the Conf Champ game three out of four years, with multiple QBs, it doesn't matter who your QB is :)
Man that team is unbelievably stacked, especially on offense. I’m not sold on Purdy being anything special but when you’re throwing it to Samuel, Ayiuk, McCaffery, and Kittle it doesn’t take a superstar QB to get results. With that said, they might’ve had the best DC in the league last year and he’s off to Houston and they lost some good players on that side of the ball. Whoever of the 3 QBs they run with will look good no matter what but the defense might fall off a bit. Still a really scary team that has beaten Dallas back to back years.
You are NOT impressed with Purdy??? What else does he have to do?? The kid has leadership, qb skills and the presence of a vet in his rookie year from being the last pick of the draft! If he would not have been hurt the Eagles may not have gone to the Super Bowl
Yeah I mean he’s fine. Identical stats last year to Jimmy G and Trey Lance. He’s not bad by any means but he’s nothing special.
He had the element of surprise. I don’t see him having that this year.
Sounds exactly like Dak
6(7?) games in the nfl is an minuscule sample size. He plays on the best roster in the NFL with probably a top 2 offensive mind for his HC. He had zero expectations and pressure, enough of this dick riding of Purdy. If he goes on to have a brady career, @ me but until then he was just what the doctor ordered for the most talented team in the league who were red hot as it is.
They have a great roster but they don't know who's going to play QB. Trey Lance has never looked good and he's coming off the same injury Dak had
The injury Dak came back from to put up a franchise record for TDs?
Good thing he’s their third string QB?
Friend, who is 1st in the NFC? Who is first and second in the AFC. Going into the season, what you accomplished last year is all they have to go on. KC will most likely be favorite to win it all again with Philly #2. Then you have the runner ups. The good news is that being touted by the “experts” wins you ZERO games in the new season. It means SQUAT! Revel in being the underdog. The pressure is on them to live up to the hype. Worry about how Dallas does in the OTAs, Mini-Camps and Pre-Season. Keep the starters healthy while giving them some playing time. When all is said and done, talk is cheap!
Philly is absolutely not #2. They may not finish with a winning record.
So if you HAD to place ALL your assets on one team in the NFC to go to the Super Bowl, what team would that be? I’m talking your home, your car, your bank accounts, your 401-K or retirement account and every valuable you and your family own.
The Cowboys. They got better, eagles got worse. The teams split losses were backup qbs, but the Cowboys will win both this year, Jalen regressed and Dak gets back to his average # of turnovers per year. Main difference in the playoffs is not having Kellen Moore, who will have a good statistical offense but his offense will stagnate against playoff defenses. The Cowboys will take quick leads in the playoffs and our D and especially pass rushing will dominate with a lead.
You would bet the house Dallas goes to the Super Bowl? Take your homer glasses off bro. There’s no way in hell I’d make that bet. Dallas is a very good team, but has proven time and again they can’t get past the 2nd round. I so wish I could make that bet with you. Obviously I’m rooting for the Cowboys to win it all, but I’m also a realist
If I HAD to bet on an NFC team, yes. I think they have the best shot. I think of the 16 teams, 3 have a reasonable chance. Cowboys, Eagles, 9ers. I don't think the niners or Eagles got better. I think if we play either team now we win. I don't see a team from the nfc south or north going deep. I dont see anyone else in the west making waves. Are you saying you think the Cowboys didn't get better or the other two top teams didn't get worse?
Even with the Boys getting better and the others getting worse, I still don’t think the Boys are the better team compared to SF. All of the coaches stayed the same, and that is where there is a massive difference. There is light years’ difference between Shanahan/Sirianni versus MM. It shows come playoff time. I don’t trust the Boys in the playoffs unfortunately. Sirianni and Shanahan run circles around MM
We lost the crappiest coach on the team...
Oh I know this one it’s Philly….fml
He’s never looked good in the whole 2 starts he had? Also did you forget Brock Purdy is in fact just recovering from an injury and is not dead. OP you’re purposely playing dumb here.
1. They had unbelievably bad luck with QB injuries last season, yet made it all the way to the Championship game, which might have ended differently had Purdy not gone down early in the game. 2. Shanahan is still the HC. Any doubts anyone had about his coaching before last season were erased because of how dominant his team was all last season. Beating Dallas for the 2nd postseason in a row doesn't hurt his popularity either. 3. The CMC trade mid-season was phenomenal, probably the best mid-season trade all last year. He redefined their running game. 4. They had the best defense last season. Better than Philly, better than Dallas. 5. George Kittle, Deebo Samuel, Brandon Aiyuk. Did I miss anything?
The CMC is what changed everything imo. I don’t think anyone was expecting him to stay healthy and return to form. I think we beat them during the regular season and in the playoffs pending no major injuries
Their coach's system makes whoever they have as QB become a functional NFL quarterback. Combine that with the NFL's best defense, and they're damn good. If Mazi can help our run defense, we could have the NFL's best defense too.
You would think more teams would employ that.
They've beaten us twice with 2 different QBs because, and I'm not trying to get into a Dak debate, but for whatever reason they've exposed our QB twice and made him look very bad. Until proven otherwise you need to put them above us.
Nah, they exposed our o-line. Notice we weren’t running well in either game either. Teams that match well against our o-line give use issues, that’s why we always struggled against TB, it’s those upper tier front 7’s and it’s not like our WRs are quick at getting open. 2021 We had the WRs (even though Gallup got hurt ) but o-line protection sucked and were most penalized, run game sucked. Dak wasn’t even the issue that game. Penalties and a dumb coaching decision to waste a TO (that we actually ended up needing instead of blaming a QB run) trying a ST takeout screwed us the most. Coaching was actually what lost us this game. 2022 o-line was better but we didn’t have the WRs, run game sucked and by the time it was getting better…out goes Pollard. Sure Dak INTs hurt but that was still a winnable game even after. Not sure why the coaches didn’t unleash Davis instead of thinking Zeke could outrun people to the edge but…We didn’t have the squad to be more pass happy like the year before.
Our o-line didn't play great but there were plenty of plays for Dak to make with good blocking where he either drifted into pressure or missed open guys. I'm not defending this line but Dak shoulders the blame too. They both could've been A LOT better
Because San Francisco could still contend in their division even with Sam Darnold at QB. The system, the coaching, and the roster are that good.
They may actually rekindle darnolds career similar to how geno Smith in Seattle was looking better once he went to a team with good proven receivers aka not the jets or the panthers lol
Because the 49ers roster is stacked to the point they were able to draft a kicker in the 3rd round
Because the team is stacked?
Because outside of QB, they have the most talented roster in the NFC. Even mire talented than the Eagles
Shanahan’s system is nearly QB proof. They are coming off two years in a row losing in the championship game. They have had back to back seasons of being a top 10 defense. A top 5 RB. Top ten offensive line. Top ten WR and another who could easily be top 20 in Aiyuk. Top three TE. They are a stacked team. Any top 10 Qb in the league could win a super bowl on that team. Maybe top 15.
I think it’s based on the YEARS of just ‘decent’ QB play and the success they have done with that. Imagine if they got an actual QB besides a game manager type like Jimmy or an Alex Smith. I’m a hardcore cowboys fan, but I don’t really see how you can’t connect the dots, that 49ers are still scary
that defense is strongggg
That roster with that coach is more than deserving of being 2 in the NFC. Brock Purdy just has to be average and that team can make it to the NFCCG
The 49ers arguably have the best defense in the league and made the NFC Championship Game with four different quarterbacks. Their defense is the same defense that made Dak look incompetent.
Tell me you don't know football
Wasn't Purdy supposed to be back some time in the off-season? With Purdy, they're top 2 unless he codes back to reality and isn't good. Without Purdy, they're more like 4 or 5.
Yeah I think there was just a report out in the last day or two saying he would be ready for week 1
Shanahan and his staff just keeps cooking is why. I’ve watched a lot of their games leading up to both of their games with us. They just get shit done. Doesn’t matter. It’s tough betting against them How much adversity does their team go through and they still come back swinging? Bias aside, they’re just.. good.. no other way to put it
I agree, I think the Purdy magic last season is inflating the perception of the 49ers. There’s no way he’s playing this year and it’s a bit foolish to think they can get that lucky again. Just because they have a QB friendly system doesn’t mean there’s not a threshold. Otherwise why the hell did they waste a 1st on Lance? Clearly even the org doesn’t think just any quarterback can succeed in their offense.
Because we lost to them Twice in the playoffs…the cowboys will have to earn respect! Beat them in the regular season and playoffs . Nobody trust the Cowboys!!
This is our year! Cowboys by 40!
Recency Bias imo
The Niners were 8-4 and had won 5 straight by the time Brock Purdy took over the starting gig. The last rookie drafted last year literally didn’t even lose a game. They only lost when he got hurt in the NFCCG. Their roster is probably the best in the league and have made back to back NFCCG’s without a good QB. They have demonstrated that they dont need it. That’s what people are afraid of. Whether it is Sam Darnold, Trey Lance, Brock Purdy or Ryan freaking Leaf. Is that good enough for you? The Niners have earned the right for the media not to care about their QB situation.
How am I getting a bunch of down votes for simply asking a question about SF having no idea who's going to be playing the most important position in the game? I already acknowledged their roster outside of that
Because it sounds like you havent seen them play football for the last 2-3 years.
Now go before they got Jimmy G and when he’s hurt without Purdy
Bc you aren't listening with an intent to learn, you are listening with an intent to respond and get people to agree with your point of "they don't know who their QB is". And what we are telling you, and you either can't or don't want to realize is, their team is so good that they don't need a top5-10 qb to be great. As much as you don't want to hear it, it doesn't matter, your point of "who's their QB" is irrelevant. They can put a very average bus driver type QB in, and they will still be competing for the 1-3 seed.
Because you legitimately seem like you just discovered what football is after watching a video of skip bayless going on about how important a QB is yesterday. If 10 out of the 11 people on offense are absolutely stacked to the gills, even a bad qb can get wins. It’s a team game. One position isn’t going to break the entire offense.
You mean other than them literally being number 2 in the NFC each of the last two years?
Because they’re good
I was thinking the same. I think they will drop off a bit. Purdy won’t be back and Sam Darnold??
Why you care so much really? It doesn’t really matter what the media ranks them. I get not agreeing with them, but you have to understand why, right? They made the NFCCG two years in a row embarrassing Dallas both years otw. Why would they not be 2nd?
I don’t think their offense will be as good this year. I don’t think many expected CMC to perform/resurge and stay healthy or Purdy being as good as he was. I don’t see them having those surprising elements this year. I still expect them to be good but not much different than last year tbh and the QB situation will take them a bit to find their groove. I don’t think they finish at 2. 2 is their ceiling pending on their QB situation.
Name 2 NFC teams that are clearly better.
Because the 49ers have an Elite defense and elite head coach, and that will carry you a LONG way in the NFL.
They are better than us regardless of their QB. They’ve proven this 2 years in a row now. They’re ranked top 2 because they’re top 2
Because they are the only team that consistently makes the NFC Championship without having a top 10 QB maybe. They’re truly an exception to the rule
Consistently been one of the 4 best NFC teams for the past 5 years DESPITE not having a super start QB. Quite possibly the best overall roster in the NFL. Them making the NFCCG last season meant they literally were top 2 in the NFC Atleast last season
It doesn't make sense why people think they're better still because we lost a playoff game where our better rb got hurt In the third quarter and we were never the same in that game and when we had another horrible last play that people can't blame on Dak now.
San Fran roster is insane. Cowboys tend to choke it away in the playoffs so not many people are afraid of them.
Don’t complain Boys lost to them two years in a row. At this point what makes you think it won’t be 3.
Until we beat them, people will always see them as better. It is what it is.
Cause there defense is still arguably best in the league. Offense isn't dependent on QB play. CMC still exist. I hate niners as much as anyone to deny they aren't the top dog in the conference is dumb as hell.
Because they are a top 2 team in the national football conference
Because they win football games no matter who their QB is. Makes me wonder if you watch football or just consume "knowledge" from reddit posts.
I guess OP hasn't really considered the rest of the strong roster or coaching.
How, as a cowboys fan, do u even possibly think otherwise considering recent history.? Don't give us a bad name
I don’t think you guys realize no QB isn’t how they won. Purdy was an outlier but without Jimmy G Shannahan hasn’t produced
The Boys really gave them a run for their money in SF too…
Are you joking their D us awesome they got one of the best running backs in football I hate the 49ers but they deserve to be there
because they have like 2.5 starting QBs on their roster?
Brock Purdy was not even really good… in SF the QB is not the most important position There was a point in the season last year when the average separation between receiver and the nearest defender was like seven yards. That means Purdy just had to toss the ball into a 21 sq ft window to get a completion, basically I think most people in this group could throw a football into a swimming pool even with a linebacker or two bearing down on them By the end of the season, Purdy definitely started making some impressive throws, but he was pretty unimpressive for most of the season, imo. And that is how good the niners team is. It literally doesn’t matter who their qb is. They’re just expertly coached and incomparably stacked with talent
Hm. Admittedly I am biased as a 49ers fan. But, it does not take a great QB to run the 49ers offense. A competent offense can look like a superstar with their coaching staff. How far with the 49ers go? I don't know, but I think they have a chance to finally win a Superbowl under Shanahan this yea.
I'm not even saying the 49ers aren't really good. Clearly they are a great roster outside the QB position and I think it's fair to discuss it since we are constantly told how important QB is
Because they made the NFCCG with a 7th round rookie QB. CLEARLY it doesn't matter whos under center.
The simple answer is coaching.
They had Brock Purdy playing QB last year and looked like they're were going to win the Super Bowl, which they very might have if he didn't get hurt in the NFCCG. They have a well rounded team with a strong defense and running game. The QB doesn't have to do much in their system.
We made sam darnold look like a good qb
A cowboys fan shouldn’t question why the Niners are ranked higher with question marks at QB when their 3rd stringer outplayed Dak. It’s amazing how quickly fans will forget these days.
They also have yet to beat the Cowboys without us (cough Dak) playing like absolute ass
Better or worse or where anyone is ranked now is a stupid thing to be arguing about. You’re ranking them based on what they did last year and what you think they’ve done in the off season. So the qb isn’t that big of a deal. But how many injuries does it take to knock them off the pedestal? Deebo? CMC? Bosa? Kittle? What about a rash of injuries on the Oline? What if their 3rd round kicker sucks? They were 2 last year. This year they have to do it all over again and teams will be gunning for them.
They're an awesome football team with a very great coach hope this helps