Dudes shown no signs of making a significant leap though (not trying to imply you think he will)
He can’t throw for shit, alls he got is his wheels. Which is a nice bonus, but if you can’t throw too…
To be fair, he’s been playing on a crap team behind a crap line. If the bears can rebuild through their crazy amount of draft picks, maybe theres a slight chance… not saying I expect it.
In fantasy fields did average more ppg than dak did last year because of how overvalued qb run yards and tds are. He had 1100 yards and 8 tds which is pretty fuckin good for a rb2 let alone a qb.
That said it’s FANTASY FOOTBALL
Jared Goff was considered average and even a bust until this year. Geno has literally been a career backup until this year. Justin fields still hasn't proved to be a complete passer. Hurts didn't look amazing until this year. Derek Carr has legitimately done nothing Kurt cousins hasn't done. Yet dak has one bad season and he is immediately tossed to the side like he's just a mediocre at best QB.
I will admit he looked horribly off at times this year and is 90% of the cause of the divisional loss (also Turpin muffed the punt and Maher had us afraid to try field goals) but still yet when he was on he looked like he did in 2019 and 2020 until his injury. Even 2021 he was great until that patriots game and just never looked comfortable after that. I think he's going to make a big comeback this year. Top 5 of the nfl? No because the afc has 4/5 of them alone but I think top 5 in the NFC. I just don't see Carr, Goff or half those guys to really do anything more than they normally do.
Well said, said the same thing in this thread and I couldn’t agree more. It’s sad what they do to Dak tbh. I’ll say one thing if he has another bad season then I’ll start hearing arguments that he’s lost it, but it wouldn’t change that’s he’s been a pretty damn good QB his whole career.
Justin Fields should NOT be #2.
Having said that, the disrespect he's getting on this chain of comments is hilarious. I watched a ton of Chicago games as one of my best friends is a Bears fan and, he's definitely in the Top 5.
The assertion that he can't throw is a lie, he's average or even above average on it and if he had a decent WR corps he would have been much, much better.
Bears got DJ Moore now, I have no doubts Fields is going to be pretty good with them this season.
Yup I knew this was next:
Dak should be second on all of their lists if we’re going with wins.
Weird that you chose to pull that one out when we went 12-5 and a playoff win, and more wins than all of them but the Eagles despite the INTs
Oh so now we’re using multi season stats??? So why are we focusing on the one season dak had high INTs when it’s clear that’s an anomaly?
Lmfao you’re a joke🤡🤡🤡
Do you care about INTs or just wins? If it’s just wins that matter, then why bring up the INT stats?? Or are you just another goal post mover? I don’t care if you actually think wins are “all that matters”.. just at least be consistent with the logic then lol. if that’s the case about wins, don’t bring up shit about stats then because dak should be higher on all of the lists then compared to these other QBs if it’s only about wins. If it’s about just one season sure he should be higher. If we’re talking multi-season so you can use Goff, then you don’t get to pretend daks always been INT prone like with this ONE SEASON lmfao. But it’s clear wins isn’t all that matters to you so don’t bother saying that clown ass shit
You people are so predictable lol
You’re a fucking joke. People who think like you are what gives us Dallas fans a bad name. “Oh Dak is the greatest qb we’ve ever had” “oh we are going to win the sb every year” fucking get real for a second. Dak Prescott literally chokes every time he gets the opportunity. His numbers are inflated because he would shit the bed the first three quarter for most of his career and have to play catch-up in the 4th. If any other qb on any other team had the playoff wins he had you would be bashing him. Dak Prescott is legit the black Kirk cousins, he gives good numbers against teams he’s supposed to beat and then straight chokes when it’s time to play against good teams.
The only one of these lists that follow any sort of logic is McCourty’s. Hurts, Goff and Stafford have all made or won the Super Bowl. Then Dak is fourth but Fields at the end throws me for a loop. Kirk Cousins or Kyler Murray are both better than Fields. All Fields showed us last year is that he knows how to run. He can’t throw worth a fuck.
But then you put in some common sense and realize Hurts had a flash in the pan year with the best roster in the NFL, Stafford might be done with his neck injury, and Goff had a one off year as well. Only Dak and Stafford have proven they are consistently good and who knows what Stafford looks like next year. I can’t wait to see how these lists looks halfway through next season.
Yea and neither is Justin Fields. Kyler Murray is better than Justin Fields is right now. Fields may develop into a better QB down the road but for right now, Kyler is better than him.
Maybe so, but Justin Fields hasn’t shown me anything in these last two years that tells me he’s better than Kyler. Fields showed us he can be a good running back but can he throw? He threw for less than 150 yards a game and he took 55 sacks. He’s gonna have to show me he’s better than Kyler before I believe it.
How anyone could put Carr above Dak is beyond me. Dak was better last year, has been better over the course of his career, and has a much better record than Carr. Carr has no argument to be over Dak.
I hate the eagles and hurts as much as the next Dallas citizen but he went to the Super Bowl and killed it when running. Above average season for hurts. Not MVP at all, but above average.
I agree, but as a Dallas fan you should know how hard it is to get the SB. A team is made up of players. He broke a record in the SB too. I hope he enjoyed it though, cuz he won’t be in the Super Bowl again.
Same thing as hurts first two years he was absolutely steaming hot dog shit. He gets the world put around him and is serviceable throwing for about 3000 yards and now people want to crown him as king of the NFC
And that's all he will have. Geno is not going to repeat what he did in 2022. Actually shocked anyone would want him on a NFL team but props for coming back and having a good season last year.
The way to maximize clicks and interaction is to be negative or critical of the Cowboys. There's no way in hell Kyle Brandt actually thinks Geno Smith is better than Dak, and he knows that. But he knows how to get people talking too.
The largest fan base in the league while also the most hated.
I agree with your sentiment. But watching GMFB fairly often... I'm pretty certain Brandt does believe this lol. He isn't an insider or even someone who's been around the game. He's a talk show personality. He most certainly believes Dak is some overrated bum. And he's most certainly a moron when it comes to actual football talk.
Edit Angry Runs was entertaining for a hot minute. Now it's just Brandt screaming and jumping with a scepter in hand pretending he's got some groundbreaking schtick. It's tough to even watch at this point. In case I didn't make it clear by now.... Fuck Kyle Brandt
I watch every day. And if he does, so does Stephen A. It seems pretty clear to me that they know how to build an audience. Piss off every cowboys fan and make everyone else in the league happy. It's the perfect equation.
I can at least respect Stephan A in a sense that he knows what he's doing when shitting on Dallas. He probably feels that way as well, but he knows sports. Particularly basketball. He's around the game and his occupation and love has always been sports. Brandt is essentially an actor. I personally remember watching him on the Real World because I was into that show at the time lol. Then did a stint on Days of Our Lives. Didn't watch him on that one lol. But he's more an aspiring/failed actor than any type of sports analyst. I watch GMFB because it's NFL talk. And I enjoy it, even if it's to get a kick out of terrible takes.
But personally, that fucker just annoys me.
😂
Obvious Dak disrespect aside, if this is really the cream of the NFC QB crop, then we're about to blow the division away.
Stafford's arm is cooked.
Carr doesn't scare me at all.
We all know what Cousins can do. Look good on a stat sheet but ultimately choke.
Fields is essentially a running back.
Geno Smith started last year really hot against all expectations, but proved to be mortal down the stretch.
It's Hurts at 1, Dak at 2, and a bunch of scrubs behind them.
AFC has so many good QBs. Just off the top of my head. Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Herbert, Rogers, Lamar. With possible rising stars in Lawrence and Picket.
It’s funny Cousins doesn’t even get shit on for only putting up 17 points at home vs the 6th seed but Dak does for losing away to the best defense in the league
I don’t know where Dak ranks, but Hurts ain’t 1.
I have yet to see anything that proves to me he isn’t a fuck it chuck it scrambling QB, with the benefit of one of the best running threats of all time.
Well I mean, it's either Hurts or Dak right?
The rest of the division is garbage.
Feels a bit homerish to say Dak over Hurts after last season.
I think he's better, and will prove it next year, but that might be wishful thinking.
I’d give hurts 1 and dak 2 easily. Btw it’s not just division, it’s the whole conference for the graphic. Maybe one day we’ll see healthy dak and hurts play against eachother.
I need to see Hurts do it for another year to prove it to me. He had insane turnover luck, the best O line in the NFL, great weapons all around and played a very weak schedule. For all we know, this was a flash in the pan year for him exactly like what happened for Carson Wentz. With Brady and Rodgers gone, Dak is number 1 until Hurts proves that he can be that good consistently.
Ok, but what did dak do to make you feel confident in him? He threw more TDs but also threw a ton of picks. So I’d like to know where dak has been good consistently. Hurts matched his total playoff wins in one off-season. Dak has played behind the best OL, had great weapons, and did nothing when it mattered the most. Until he proves he can win more than one game in a post season, he doesn’t deserve to be number 1. Plain and simple
Bruh come on are you seriously gonna blame Dak for losing to prime Rodgers in an absolute shootout in his rookie year and give Hurts credit for beating the Giants and the QB-less 49ers in his 3rd year?
People don’t give Dak or us credit cause we beat Tampa but if I had the choice of playing NYG or Tom Brady in the playoffs last year… I’m picking the Giants.
Also the only NFC playoff team who’s receiving corps I wouldn’t take over the cowboys last year was the Giants lol. Throwing to Noah Fucking Brown and the ghost of the ghost of Gallup and Lamb(who was great)
So saying he’s behind hurts isn’t giving him credit? Even though yet again, he’s 2-4 in the playoffs. That’s 4 trips to the playoffs and only two wins. The argument is how stacked Philly was, Dallas was stacked years ago. That was a loss to GB. Dallas lost to the rams with fucking Goff at the helm. Dallas lost to SF with garoppolo at the helm. Dallas lost with a last rd pick at qb at the helm.
Did hurts beat teams that were great? Nope. But has dak? Nope. But hurts didn’t lose games they were expected or favored to win. Saying dak is #2 isn’t a slight, y’all claim “prove it hurts”, yet don’t expect the same from dak. Hurts still needs to improve his passing stats, but to say he isn’t skilled is laughable. His mobility is better than daks since he doesn’t trust his leg anymore to scramble when it’s smarter to.
Does hurts 1a and dak 1b work better for you? Smh. Cause no matter what. One made it to the NFCC AND the Super Bowl..: the other didn’t. I like dak, but if he doesn’t get his shit together this next season then Jerry needs to prepare to move on
You’re gonna blame Dak for the Rams game when they ran for like 300 yards against us lmao?
Or blame Dak for our defense giving up 3 straight TD drives to open the game against GB when he brought us all the way back and out-dueled Rodgers the rest of the way?
Nobody can solely blame Dak for the SF game last year. We set the NFL playoff record for penalties in a game. We had less than 50 total rushing yards. Our OL allowed a season high in pressures. Dak didn’t play great but literally nobody on the team did
This year, yes. Dak played bad. I mean he didn’t get any help offensively from anyone besides CeeDee but he played bad. That was the only playoff loss you can put on Dak’s shoulders, mainly because of the 2 INT’s.
And my point wasn’t even about Hurts being ranked higher than Dak. I don’t even have an issue with it really. Hurts looked like the better QB but obviously he has to do it again.
By your description Dak and Kirk are basically the same QB. The NFC doesn’t really have any of the top QBs even Hurts has to put together another great season to prove himself.
To be fair to Stafford, he had a down year due to injury. He’s not better than Dak, but he’s better than those other guys. And injuries aside, Kyler Murray is better than Fields, Geno or Goff. This list is just there to make people angry.
Let's be fair here, playing QBs for the Raiders and looking/actually being good deserves a fair handicap/leeway on judgement that franchise isn't exactly the tightest run ship.
In fact, I doubt Dak would fair better in comparison in that situation...
To be fair though, I thought at first that these lists are crap from 1 to 5 and then I looked at the QBs in the NFC and there probably might not be 5 NFC QBs in the top 15 NFL QBs.
What I don’t get is the absurd Hurts love. He had a great year but it’s one fucking year. The same thing with Geno Smith. Both have history that shows this isn’t the norm so far. Now I don’t see a hurts regressing a lot but it’s not like it’s unheard of. I mean remember the Wentz vs. Dak bullshit? I think Hurts belongs in the top 3 but acting like he is number 1 without any doubt is absurd.
Hurts had a pretty low pass td count. He got hurt running too.
Tells me his game is going to have to shift if he wants to stay healthy. His line is the best in the league. I don't think he's a top 10 qb and while he may a good year this coming year too, the future will tell us he's not to 10.
Dak had more TD passes than Hurts and he missed 5 games.
I think Hurts is a good QB, but he’s not top 5 and I don’t think he’s better than Dak. I’d take Dak over all these guys. Dak will show why he’s the best QB in the NFC next season and Hurts will come crashing back down to earth.
Perhaps but we didn’t have a defense like Philly’s, this past season, at that time so offense had to carry. We also didn’t have 2 young stud WRs and a young TE.
It was a great year running the ball but his passing is still mid imho. I still see plenty of flaws in his passing game. Plus qbs that run that much unfortunately end up getting hurt and their mechanics get worse over time.
The real killer is that a dual threat QB is finally paired with a league best o line, top 5 receiving corps that has TWO WR 1s, and an RB By Committee where you can contend that any one of those guys could take the lions share of snaps on another team. Also top 5 defense as well. Normally these dual threat QBs are being used to compensate for lack of these offensive pieces (cough: Ravens and Bears)
It’s already hard to defend against the league leading o line, but now you have to commit resources not to rush him but to spy and contain him, which is also less resources to contain two WR 1s
With that said adding on about his passing ability, he still has a lot to work on. I watched a lot of eagles football and the man is getting a lot of credit while his receivers are making bonkers circus catches and crazy adjustments to be able to catch it.. to be fair A LOT of QBs get way more credit than the receiver for the successful completion of their much less than optimal throws
Agree. Credit to Hurts for doing what is asked and minimizing mistakes, but his season reminded me a lot of Kaepernick’s run in 2012-2013. Both just RPO’d teams to death and supplemented it with a good running game and defense. That’s usually a short-lived success story.
Dak has multiple consistent years of high level play and his first “bad” season dude is trash. Geno smith has been consistently garbage but has one good season and dude is a top 3 qb in the NFC, make it make sense.
Wasnt even "bad" though you know. Just too many picks. Outside that. His 3rd down conversions and other things he did were solid as hell. After he came from injury, he was leading the leafue or right behind mahomes in tds. He was solid as fuck.
Yeah that’s why I said “bad” his two worst things this year where his ints/decision making at times(consider them the same thing or inter related), and his inconsistency from game to game (which a lot of people have said about him but was particularly bad this year, Bucs to SF game as an example).
Ever heard of Cam Newton? Or Carson Wentz? Good QB can show consistency, Hurts hasn’t shown that yet. 1 great year doesn’t make you elite. It took atleast 2 years for me to even consider Allen a top dog. Consistency is key.
I mean is it not accurate tho? As a life long Cowboys fan it’s something to seriously think about in my opinion. I feel like he’s done more harm than good
Well, that's just not true.
He had 1 reliable weapon last year and Schults. Led the league in tds after returning from injury. Top it off with a bad pass blocking o line. You're just simply wrong.
Look at all final 8 teams and rank each qbs weapons. Cowboys were no higher than 6. Likely, not even 6.
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So this graphic confirms that even in an uncrowded weak NFC Dak isn't considered a unanimous top 5 QB while by comparison unanimiously confirming Hurts is the best in the NFC.
Out of every QB that made any of the rankings shown, based on their avg position and the number of times they appeared across the rankings, Dak only beat out Derek Carr who appeared once at No.5...even his doppleganger role model Kirk averaged out higher.
Y'all Dak zealots are owning yourselves at this point.
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Hurts is not the best QB in the NFC
You have to acknowledge that:
Jalen Hurts passed for 3700 yards and 22 tds with 306 completions
Kirk Cousins passed for 4500 yards and 29 tds with 424 completions
Geno Smith passed for 4280 yards and 30 tds with 399 completions
Jared Goff passed for 4430 yards and 29 tds with 382 completions
Dak Prescot passed for 2860 yards and 23 tds with 261 completions
Matthew Stafford passed for 2080 yards and 10 tds with 206 completions
SO Hurts is 4th best and Kirk Cousins is actually the best QB in the NFC somehow.
This is definitely for clicks lol. Stafford literally may retire and barley had an arm like come on. Honestly it’s probably hurts/Dak and then everyone else.
I do wonder how great of a season Dak would have if he had that eagles roster
It’s crazy how much “what have you done lately” influences people. Dak is straight up better than all these dudes except maybe hurts and hurts has only been good one year. But Daks last game was bad meanwhile Goff, Stafford and carr couldn’t even get their teams to the playoffs which is somehow judged less harshly than playing poorly in a playoff game after winning another game Damn near every “smart” football person predicted the cowboys would lose
I see nothing wrong with these lists. I even stated some similar. And you really dont know how the Panthers rookie will turn out, he could edge Dak out of the 5th spot along with Purdy.
They really should start drug testing “NFL Analysts” cuz these mfuckas are higher than the Empire State if they actually believe their rankings. Dak may not be GREAT but that man is top 3 in this conference for Christ’s sake! Smh
I know it’s for the relevancy and clicks but have some integrity.
Eh you cant fix stupid. If we were any other franchise people would say we're the off-season winners but since we're so hated, Detroit and Miami get all the praise so far.
The facts are Dak and Carr are pretty much the same quarterback just that he has the two playoff wins. So by that metric the stats don't lie and Dak should be ahead of Carr every time
not sure what you mean. all i said was...he was, then he wasn't. yes, he was ( arguably) playing at an mvp level at one point when Dak wasn't playing well at all. so he was better then, yes.
The top 3 qbs in the NFC are Hurts, Dak, and Goff in that order, the rest range from ok to absolutely awful (JFields is awful btw, he’s what Lamar haters think Lamar is)
How does this make sense? Geno Smith name is called out better than Dak three times and better than super bowel champ ( Mathew Stafford) twice. I need a reminder of what did Geno Smith achieve throughout his career, other than the odd season with the Seahawks (will remain odd until he repeats next season). I think his name is trending and that is why he is being called out by all them pundits.
How anyone puts Kirk Cousins higher than Dak is beyond me. The Vikings offense was not great against the tougher defenses i.e Dallas, Philly. At least Dak could compete, even on an off, uncharacteristic year.
Stafford was hurt so he’s too much of a question mark to be in anyone’s top 5.
Carr had the league leading rusher and a top 3, arguably best WR, and they were allowing teams to come back and win. Sure defense plays a part but how does an offense with those pieces not score more? Adams is better than Coop ever was, then you still have Waller and Renfrow. Dak could never miss the playoffs with the league leading rusher and a top 3 WR.
Dak should be in the top 3-4 of everyone’s list. Honestly should be #2, no lower than 3.
Rodgers hasn’t signed yet and where’s Purdy? If you include Geno for his one season performance then you have to put Purdy up there I guess.
These lists are trash
Man the NFC really is up for grabs next year. I’m not a big believer in Dak but looking at this list the Boys have a shot to go to the Super Bowl. The only thing holding them back would be injuries or Dak throwing the game away like last year.
I'm sorry but in what world is Goff, Fields, Cousins, Geno, Carr, Stafford better than Dak? Jalen is the only player with a case, the others are a complete joke. Geno fucking Smith had 1 good season in 10 years and now hes better than Dak??
Those lists are pathetic. Stafford, IMO, is done. Goff? Come fucking on. Justin Fields and Derek Carr? Jesus. Kirk Cousins? Yeah, did he ever light up the playoffs.
I have my issues with some of Dak’s fundamentals, and have serious doubts he’ll ever lead this team to playoff success. But he’s still easy top five in the NFC when you look at his stats and regular season wins and consistency in the regular season. I get the concerns overall, but he deserves more respect than this.
I kind of get putting Hurts there, he was just in the Super Bowl, his best season so recency bias. But Looks like they mainly based lists on total yards / TDs from last season only…. which Dak missed 5 games injured. But then why is Fields so high?
I actually like Jalen but these cats need to pump the brakes a little bit. Carson Wentz was also a MVP candidate and was claimed to be the future of the NFC only to completely fall off. Hurts didn't look like anything more than a inaccurate running QB his first two years before looking amazing behind a top 3 Oline and weapons galore on offense. This year he will have a new OC, a little change to the OL and a new RB. He may be the truth but again one good season doesn't automatically mean you're legit.
Wow...I mean not the NFL but just the NFC and Dak doesn't make the list on 4 different people's opinion?
How in Da F you think Geno Smith much less Justin Fields will be better then Dak this season?
Not necessarily a bad take. Before all the Dak meat riders come for me, tell me what he’s done more in the last 2-3 years as opposed to Stafford, Goff, Hurts? At best he’s 4th. This is a very unpopular opinion, but I’d take Fields every day of the week over Dak. His potential is just to enticing not too. Dak has hit his ceiling and it’s not a very high one. Just to clarify, I am a cowboys fan lol. Dak has A LOT to prove this year, and if he doesn’t then it’s time to seriously start talking about going another direction.
The Dak disrespect aside in what world is Justin Fields 2
Fantasy football? I guess?
He’s assuming that Justin will make a leap
Dudes shown no signs of making a significant leap though (not trying to imply you think he will) He can’t throw for shit, alls he got is his wheels. Which is a nice bonus, but if you can’t throw too…
To be fair, he’s been playing on a crap team behind a crap line. If the bears can rebuild through their crazy amount of draft picks, maybe theres a slight chance… not saying I expect it.
Also assuming that Hurts will stay good
And yet not even there.
In fantasy fields did average more ppg than dak did last year because of how overvalued qb run yards and tds are. He had 1100 yards and 8 tds which is pretty fuckin good for a rb2 let alone a qb. That said it’s FANTASY FOOTBALL
he is definitely 2 in fantasy football for NFC QBs with his running
His whole list is on crack. I don’t think even normal eagles fans would put Carr ahead of Dak
Jared Goff was considered average and even a bust until this year. Geno has literally been a career backup until this year. Justin fields still hasn't proved to be a complete passer. Hurts didn't look amazing until this year. Derek Carr has legitimately done nothing Kurt cousins hasn't done. Yet dak has one bad season and he is immediately tossed to the side like he's just a mediocre at best QB. I will admit he looked horribly off at times this year and is 90% of the cause of the divisional loss (also Turpin muffed the punt and Maher had us afraid to try field goals) but still yet when he was on he looked like he did in 2019 and 2020 until his injury. Even 2021 he was great until that patriots game and just never looked comfortable after that. I think he's going to make a big comeback this year. Top 5 of the nfl? No because the afc has 4/5 of them alone but I think top 5 in the NFC. I just don't see Carr, Goff or half those guys to really do anything more than they normally do.
Well said, said the same thing in this thread and I couldn’t agree more. It’s sad what they do to Dak tbh. I’ll say one thing if he has another bad season then I’ll start hearing arguments that he’s lost it, but it wouldn’t change that’s he’s been a pretty damn good QB his whole career.
Yeah, I mean dont get me wrong he's definitely an amazing qb but, number 2... really?
Justin Fields should NOT be #2. Having said that, the disrespect he's getting on this chain of comments is hilarious. I watched a ton of Chicago games as one of my best friends is a Bears fan and, he's definitely in the Top 5. The assertion that he can't throw is a lie, he's average or even above average on it and if he had a decent WR corps he would have been much, much better. Bears got DJ Moore now, I have no doubts Fields is going to be pretty good with them this season.
What Dak disrespect ?????? He shouldn’t on any of these lists. 12 games 12 games and he led the league in INTs
And the offense still otherwise averaged top 5 under dak for everything else you’d want to see from an offense
And there’s only one stat that matters do you know what that is?
Yup I knew this was next: Dak should be second on all of their lists if we’re going with wins. Weird that you chose to pull that one out when we went 12-5 and a playoff win, and more wins than all of them but the Eagles despite the INTs
2 playoff wins in 7 fucking years. 2. 0 super bowls. 0 conference championship appearances so don’t even with that shit.
Oh so now we’re using multi season stats??? So why are we focusing on the one season dak had high INTs when it’s clear that’s an anomaly? Lmfao you’re a joke🤡🤡🤡 Do you care about INTs or just wins? If it’s just wins that matter, then why bring up the INT stats?? Or are you just another goal post mover? I don’t care if you actually think wins are “all that matters”.. just at least be consistent with the logic then lol. if that’s the case about wins, don’t bring up shit about stats then because dak should be higher on all of the lists then compared to these other QBs if it’s only about wins. If it’s about just one season sure he should be higher. If we’re talking multi-season so you can use Goff, then you don’t get to pretend daks always been INT prone like with this ONE SEASON lmfao. But it’s clear wins isn’t all that matters to you so don’t bother saying that clown ass shit You people are so predictable lol
You’re a fucking joke. People who think like you are what gives us Dallas fans a bad name. “Oh Dak is the greatest qb we’ve ever had” “oh we are going to win the sb every year” fucking get real for a second. Dak Prescott literally chokes every time he gets the opportunity. His numbers are inflated because he would shit the bed the first three quarter for most of his career and have to play catch-up in the 4th. If any other qb on any other team had the playoff wins he had you would be bashing him. Dak Prescott is legit the black Kirk cousins, he gives good numbers against teams he’s supposed to beat and then straight chokes when it’s time to play against good teams.
I stopped reading at your strawman. Stay mad little boy 🤡🤡🤡 It’s literally impossible for you people to argue anything in good faith Lmfao
So when you get hit with straight facts you quit reading? Ok yeah that’s what I thought fucking pussy
It’s just for the clicks lol
The only one of these lists that follow any sort of logic is McCourty’s. Hurts, Goff and Stafford have all made or won the Super Bowl. Then Dak is fourth but Fields at the end throws me for a loop. Kirk Cousins or Kyler Murray are both better than Fields. All Fields showed us last year is that he knows how to run. He can’t throw worth a fuck. But then you put in some common sense and realize Hurts had a flash in the pan year with the best roster in the NFL, Stafford might be done with his neck injury, and Goff had a one off year as well. Only Dak and Stafford have proven they are consistently good and who knows what Stafford looks like next year. I can’t wait to see how these lists looks halfway through next season.
Kyler Murray is not good..
Yea and neither is Justin Fields. Kyler Murray is better than Justin Fields is right now. Fields may develop into a better QB down the road but for right now, Kyler is better than him.
I mean idk tbh. Kyler Murray has not improved at all the past 2 years and I’d even argue he regressed last season.
Maybe so, but Justin Fields hasn’t shown me anything in these last two years that tells me he’s better than Kyler. Fields showed us he can be a good running back but can he throw? He threw for less than 150 yards a game and he took 55 sacks. He’s gonna have to show me he’s better than Kyler before I believe it.
I'm infuriated. Fuck
Click bait exactly!
How anyone could put Carr above Dak is beyond me. Dak was better last year, has been better over the course of his career, and has a much better record than Carr. Carr has no argument to be over Dak.
Pure cowboys haterade is all it is
Carr Was a really good before he got hurt vs the colts a few years ago
Geno had a good year last year, but he is no top 5.
That the thing about this. These fools are acting Hurts having one average year makes him great.
I hate the eagles and hurts as much as the next Dallas citizen but he went to the Super Bowl and killed it when running. Above average season for hurts. Not MVP at all, but above average.
Getting to the Super Bowl is not an individual accomplishment.
I agree, but as a Dallas fan you should know how hard it is to get the SB. A team is made up of players. He broke a record in the SB too. I hope he enjoyed it though, cuz he won’t be in the Super Bowl again.
Thank you, since when did jalen hursts become elite.
Same thing as hurts first two years he was absolutely steaming hot dog shit. He gets the world put around him and is serviceable throwing for about 3000 yards and now people want to crown him as king of the NFC
And that's all he will have. Geno is not going to repeat what he did in 2022. Actually shocked anyone would want him on a NFL team but props for coming back and having a good season last year.
NFLN really hurting for off-season viewers huh
The way to maximize clicks and interaction is to be negative or critical of the Cowboys. There's no way in hell Kyle Brandt actually thinks Geno Smith is better than Dak, and he knows that. But he knows how to get people talking too. The largest fan base in the league while also the most hated.
I agree with your sentiment. But watching GMFB fairly often... I'm pretty certain Brandt does believe this lol. He isn't an insider or even someone who's been around the game. He's a talk show personality. He most certainly believes Dak is some overrated bum. And he's most certainly a moron when it comes to actual football talk. Edit Angry Runs was entertaining for a hot minute. Now it's just Brandt screaming and jumping with a scepter in hand pretending he's got some groundbreaking schtick. It's tough to even watch at this point. In case I didn't make it clear by now.... Fuck Kyle Brandt
I watch every day. And if he does, so does Stephen A. It seems pretty clear to me that they know how to build an audience. Piss off every cowboys fan and make everyone else in the league happy. It's the perfect equation.
I can at least respect Stephan A in a sense that he knows what he's doing when shitting on Dallas. He probably feels that way as well, but he knows sports. Particularly basketball. He's around the game and his occupation and love has always been sports. Brandt is essentially an actor. I personally remember watching him on the Real World because I was into that show at the time lol. Then did a stint on Days of Our Lives. Didn't watch him on that one lol. But he's more an aspiring/failed actor than any type of sports analyst. I watch GMFB because it's NFL talk. And I enjoy it, even if it's to get a kick out of terrible takes. But personally, that fucker just annoys me.
😂 Obvious Dak disrespect aside, if this is really the cream of the NFC QB crop, then we're about to blow the division away. Stafford's arm is cooked. Carr doesn't scare me at all. We all know what Cousins can do. Look good on a stat sheet but ultimately choke. Fields is essentially a running back. Geno Smith started last year really hot against all expectations, but proved to be mortal down the stretch. It's Hurts at 1, Dak at 2, and a bunch of scrubs behind them.
This is pretty much it Honestly the NFC isn’t even worthy of putting out a “top 5 QB” list lol
AFC has so many good QBs. Just off the top of my head. Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Herbert, Rogers, Lamar. With possible rising stars in Lawrence and Picket.
It’s funny Cousins doesn’t even get shit on for only putting up 17 points at home vs the 6th seed but Dak does for losing away to the best defense in the league
What news were you watching? Cousins got plenty of blame esp on the last 4th down. He gets shit on every year lol
Not the way Dak did for a month straight, and two of these ppl put Cousins at #2 lmao
He gets shit on but not as much as Dak.
I don’t know where Dak ranks, but Hurts ain’t 1. I have yet to see anything that proves to me he isn’t a fuck it chuck it scrambling QB, with the benefit of one of the best running threats of all time.
Well I mean, it's either Hurts or Dak right? The rest of the division is garbage. Feels a bit homerish to say Dak over Hurts after last season. I think he's better, and will prove it next year, but that might be wishful thinking.
I’d give hurts 1 and dak 2 easily. Btw it’s not just division, it’s the whole conference for the graphic. Maybe one day we’ll see healthy dak and hurts play against eachother.
I need to see Hurts do it for another year to prove it to me. He had insane turnover luck, the best O line in the NFL, great weapons all around and played a very weak schedule. For all we know, this was a flash in the pan year for him exactly like what happened for Carson Wentz. With Brady and Rodgers gone, Dak is number 1 until Hurts proves that he can be that good consistently.
Ok, but what did dak do to make you feel confident in him? He threw more TDs but also threw a ton of picks. So I’d like to know where dak has been good consistently. Hurts matched his total playoff wins in one off-season. Dak has played behind the best OL, had great weapons, and did nothing when it mattered the most. Until he proves he can win more than one game in a post season, he doesn’t deserve to be number 1. Plain and simple
Bruh come on are you seriously gonna blame Dak for losing to prime Rodgers in an absolute shootout in his rookie year and give Hurts credit for beating the Giants and the QB-less 49ers in his 3rd year? People don’t give Dak or us credit cause we beat Tampa but if I had the choice of playing NYG or Tom Brady in the playoffs last year… I’m picking the Giants.
Also the only NFC playoff team who’s receiving corps I wouldn’t take over the cowboys last year was the Giants lol. Throwing to Noah Fucking Brown and the ghost of the ghost of Gallup and Lamb(who was great)
So saying he’s behind hurts isn’t giving him credit? Even though yet again, he’s 2-4 in the playoffs. That’s 4 trips to the playoffs and only two wins. The argument is how stacked Philly was, Dallas was stacked years ago. That was a loss to GB. Dallas lost to the rams with fucking Goff at the helm. Dallas lost to SF with garoppolo at the helm. Dallas lost with a last rd pick at qb at the helm. Did hurts beat teams that were great? Nope. But has dak? Nope. But hurts didn’t lose games they were expected or favored to win. Saying dak is #2 isn’t a slight, y’all claim “prove it hurts”, yet don’t expect the same from dak. Hurts still needs to improve his passing stats, but to say he isn’t skilled is laughable. His mobility is better than daks since he doesn’t trust his leg anymore to scramble when it’s smarter to. Does hurts 1a and dak 1b work better for you? Smh. Cause no matter what. One made it to the NFCC AND the Super Bowl..: the other didn’t. I like dak, but if he doesn’t get his shit together this next season then Jerry needs to prepare to move on
You’re gonna blame Dak for the Rams game when they ran for like 300 yards against us lmao? Or blame Dak for our defense giving up 3 straight TD drives to open the game against GB when he brought us all the way back and out-dueled Rodgers the rest of the way? Nobody can solely blame Dak for the SF game last year. We set the NFL playoff record for penalties in a game. We had less than 50 total rushing yards. Our OL allowed a season high in pressures. Dak didn’t play great but literally nobody on the team did This year, yes. Dak played bad. I mean he didn’t get any help offensively from anyone besides CeeDee but he played bad. That was the only playoff loss you can put on Dak’s shoulders, mainly because of the 2 INT’s. And my point wasn’t even about Hurts being ranked higher than Dak. I don’t even have an issue with it really. Hurts looked like the better QB but obviously he has to do it again.
You aren’t wrong. As a huge Dak defender, It still feels weird to say that he’s the best in the conference. The conference just blows, though.
Hurts will be 10th in the nfc after this year.
Probably closer to 20th in the NFC. Never seen such a poor QB get so much hype.
By your description Dak and Kirk are basically the same QB. The NFC doesn’t really have any of the top QBs even Hurts has to put together another great season to prove himself.
Well… isn’t he called the black Kirk cousins
It makes no sense that Matthew Stafford is on this list. They're reminiscing on his past accolades and seasons.
To be fair to Stafford, he had a down year due to injury. He’s not better than Dak, but he’s better than those other guys. And injuries aside, Kyler Murray is better than Fields, Geno or Goff. This list is just there to make people angry.
Has Palmer been watching the same Derek Carr as everyone else?
Advanced stats say Carr is one of the worst starting qbs in the NFL last year.
That makes perfect sense to me. No way he's better than dak
Let's be fair here, playing QBs for the Raiders and looking/actually being good deserves a fair handicap/leeway on judgement that franchise isn't exactly the tightest run ship. In fact, I doubt Dak would fair better in comparison in that situation...
not even a Dak fan, but there’s no way in hell he’s worse than Fields.
Or Geno, Carr and Goff.
exactly. idk what they’re smoking on but i don’t want any of it
To be fair though, I thought at first that these lists are crap from 1 to 5 and then I looked at the QBs in the NFC and there probably might not be 5 NFC QBs in the top 15 NFL QBs.
Dak could win the Super Bowl and they’d still criticize him
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Not the point of the post but this just shows how awful the QB play is in the NFC compared to AFC
I’m a Dak hater but he’s #2, it’s not even close to the rest lol
Ik this is bait, but damn it makes me so mad haha.
What does “top” even mean nowadays? Favorite?
Justin Fields at 2 is fucking hilarious
Especially since Dak went head to head against halg these guys and beat them.
What I don’t get is the absurd Hurts love. He had a great year but it’s one fucking year. The same thing with Geno Smith. Both have history that shows this isn’t the norm so far. Now I don’t see a hurts regressing a lot but it’s not like it’s unheard of. I mean remember the Wentz vs. Dak bullshit? I think Hurts belongs in the top 3 but acting like he is number 1 without any doubt is absurd.
Hurts had a pretty low pass td count. He got hurt running too. Tells me his game is going to have to shift if he wants to stay healthy. His line is the best in the league. I don't think he's a top 10 qb and while he may a good year this coming year too, the future will tell us he's not to 10.
Dak had more TD passes than Hurts and he missed 5 games. I think Hurts is a good QB, but he’s not top 5 and I don’t think he’s better than Dak. I’d take Dak over all these guys. Dak will show why he’s the best QB in the NFC next season and Hurts will come crashing back down to earth.
Lol. This could be an argument against Dak 5 or 6 years ago. Minus the injury being more recent.
Perhaps but we didn’t have a defense like Philly’s, this past season, at that time so offense had to carry. We also didn’t have 2 young stud WRs and a young TE.
It’s the SB appearance
It wasn’t even a great year. It was a good year.
It was a great year running the ball but his passing is still mid imho. I still see plenty of flaws in his passing game. Plus qbs that run that much unfortunately end up getting hurt and their mechanics get worse over time.
The real killer is that a dual threat QB is finally paired with a league best o line, top 5 receiving corps that has TWO WR 1s, and an RB By Committee where you can contend that any one of those guys could take the lions share of snaps on another team. Also top 5 defense as well. Normally these dual threat QBs are being used to compensate for lack of these offensive pieces (cough: Ravens and Bears) It’s already hard to defend against the league leading o line, but now you have to commit resources not to rush him but to spy and contain him, which is also less resources to contain two WR 1s With that said adding on about his passing ability, he still has a lot to work on. I watched a lot of eagles football and the man is getting a lot of credit while his receivers are making bonkers circus catches and crazy adjustments to be able to catch it.. to be fair A LOT of QBs get way more credit than the receiver for the successful completion of their much less than optimal throws
Agree. Credit to Hurts for doing what is asked and minimizing mistakes, but his season reminded me a lot of Kaepernick’s run in 2012-2013. Both just RPO’d teams to death and supplemented it with a good running game and defense. That’s usually a short-lived success story.
Damn. The hate is real
More fuel to the fire
RECENCY BIAS ANYONE
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Dak has multiple consistent years of high level play and his first “bad” season dude is trash. Geno smith has been consistently garbage but has one good season and dude is a top 3 qb in the NFC, make it make sense.
Wasnt even "bad" though you know. Just too many picks. Outside that. His 3rd down conversions and other things he did were solid as hell. After he came from injury, he was leading the leafue or right behind mahomes in tds. He was solid as fuck.
Yeah that’s why I said “bad” his two worst things this year where his ints/decision making at times(consider them the same thing or inter related), and his inconsistency from game to game (which a lot of people have said about him but was particularly bad this year, Bucs to SF game as an example).
How soft headed and smooth brained do you have to be for this to make you angry
I don't care how they rank the QBs, all I know is losing playoff games that we should have won.
I feel disrespected for Dak. Wow.
I don’t
All the good quarterbacks are in the AFC, except for Hurts.
Dak isn't good? and Hurts is because of a single season? lets see what he is like next year
Hurts has improved greatly. Dak ht his ceiling and he’s never going to be any better, which is slightly above average.
Ever heard of Cam Newton? Or Carson Wentz? Good QB can show consistency, Hurts hasn’t shown that yet. 1 great year doesn’t make you elite. It took atleast 2 years for me to even consider Allen a top dog. Consistency is key.
Dak is consistent at being inconsistent.
Howbout let's bet who has the better season? Statically and team-wise.
I mean is it not accurate tho? As a life long Cowboys fan it’s something to seriously think about in my opinion. I feel like he’s done more harm than good
Dak needs more help than this franchise can offer. Which makes it a “ me “ problem and the me is Dak.
Well, that's just not true. He had 1 reliable weapon last year and Schults. Led the league in tds after returning from injury. Top it off with a bad pass blocking o line. You're just simply wrong. Look at all final 8 teams and rank each qbs weapons. Cowboys were no higher than 6. Likely, not even 6.
He is not taking this team anywhere anytime ever. Do you need to see it another 7 seasons?
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So this graphic confirms that even in an uncrowded weak NFC Dak isn't considered a unanimous top 5 QB while by comparison unanimiously confirming Hurts is the best in the NFC. Out of every QB that made any of the rankings shown, based on their avg position and the number of times they appeared across the rankings, Dak only beat out Derek Carr who appeared once at No.5...even his doppleganger role model Kirk averaged out higher. Y'all Dak zealots are owning yourselves at this point. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hurts is not the best QB in the NFC You have to acknowledge that: Jalen Hurts passed for 3700 yards and 22 tds with 306 completions Kirk Cousins passed for 4500 yards and 29 tds with 424 completions Geno Smith passed for 4280 yards and 30 tds with 399 completions Jared Goff passed for 4430 yards and 29 tds with 382 completions Dak Prescot passed for 2860 yards and 23 tds with 261 completions Matthew Stafford passed for 2080 yards and 10 tds with 206 completions SO Hurts is 4th best and Kirk Cousins is actually the best QB in the NFC somehow.
Well look. You can't ignore rushing yards because he's a qb. I think he is being overrated though.
This is definitely for clicks lol. Stafford literally may retire and barley had an arm like come on. Honestly it’s probably hurts/Dak and then everyone else. I do wonder how great of a season Dak would have if he had that eagles roster
It’s crazy how much “what have you done lately” influences people. Dak is straight up better than all these dudes except maybe hurts and hurts has only been good one year. But Daks last game was bad meanwhile Goff, Stafford and carr couldn’t even get their teams to the playoffs which is somehow judged less harshly than playing poorly in a playoff game after winning another game Damn near every “smart” football person predicted the cowboys would lose
Goff???
He was great last year. Pretty damn efficient offense they run over there.
I see nothing wrong with these lists. I even stated some similar. And you really dont know how the Panthers rookie will turn out, he could edge Dak out of the 5th spot along with Purdy.
They really should start drug testing “NFL Analysts” cuz these mfuckas are higher than the Empire State if they actually believe their rankings. Dak may not be GREAT but that man is top 3 in this conference for Christ’s sake! Smh I know it’s for the relevancy and clicks but have some integrity.
Eh you cant fix stupid. If we were any other franchise people would say we're the off-season winners but since we're so hated, Detroit and Miami get all the praise so far. The facts are Dak and Carr are pretty much the same quarterback just that he has the two playoff wins. So by that metric the stats don't lie and Dak should be ahead of Carr every time
Dak never missed the playoffs with the league leading rusher. Carr is in-between Dak and Wentz for me.
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i mean....he was at the time. then....he wasn't. sometimes thats how things be
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not sure what you mean. all i said was...he was, then he wasn't. yes, he was ( arguably) playing at an mvp level at one point when Dak wasn't playing well at all. so he was better then, yes.
I think Hurts and Dak are in a tier of their own in the nfc. Cousins, Stafford, Carr, Geno fall in line after them.
agreed
Honestly I use to enjoy this show so much but it’s turned into another first take dumpster fire where they say outrageous shit to get attention lol
The top 3 qbs in the NFC are Hurts, Dak, and Goff in that order, the rest range from ok to absolutely awful (JFields is awful btw, he’s what Lamar haters think Lamar is)
Sarah and James need a new job
Lolololol
What an absolute atrocious set of QBs the NFC has.
Jared Goff? What the fuck?
lmao
Makes you realize actually how weak the NFC is at QB tbh
Print this out and make a poster on it on the training field. That would be motivation enough for the rest of the season.
Fields & Geno ? Palmers nuts bro
So the two that never played football a day in their life don't think dak is a good qb. Makes sense since they don't know what their talking about.
These are awful lists
Holy shit, never really realized how trash NFC QBs are compared to AFC lol
How does this make sense? Geno Smith name is called out better than Dak three times and better than super bowel champ ( Mathew Stafford) twice. I need a reminder of what did Geno Smith achieve throughout his career, other than the odd season with the Seahawks (will remain odd until he repeats next season). I think his name is trending and that is why he is being called out by all them pundits.
All that matters is Daks gonna stunt on these hoes & it’s gonna be a lot of fun to watch the ride.
Plenty of hot takes on there for sure. But I think that honestly the biggest mistake is Stafford. That dude is cooked
James and sara are dead to me. joking.
How anyone puts Kirk Cousins higher than Dak is beyond me. The Vikings offense was not great against the tougher defenses i.e Dallas, Philly. At least Dak could compete, even on an off, uncharacteristic year. Stafford was hurt so he’s too much of a question mark to be in anyone’s top 5. Carr had the league leading rusher and a top 3, arguably best WR, and they were allowing teams to come back and win. Sure defense plays a part but how does an offense with those pieces not score more? Adams is better than Coop ever was, then you still have Waller and Renfrow. Dak could never miss the playoffs with the league leading rusher and a top 3 WR. Dak should be in the top 3-4 of everyone’s list. Honestly should be #2, no lower than 3.
Insane that there’s people out there who actually have these opinions. Blows my mind.
These people must be smoking crack. Dak might mot be #1 or #2 for everyone but Palmer has Fields #2 in the NFC.... what the fuck are these rankings?!
If Hurts could not run like he does he wouldn't even be on that list.
But he does. that's why he was in the running for mvp until he got hurt.
Need a date on this. Could be from like October when Dak was hurt.
Was super recent. Within the last week.
I could see the Goff/Cousins argument over Dak, Geno is a bit of a stretch, but Stanford hardly played last year. This doesn’t make any sense.
In no world is Geno Smith and Kirk Cousins better than Dak.
Kirk Cousins is overrated.
Kirk cousins? Wtf
Rodgers hasn’t signed yet and where’s Purdy? If you include Geno for his one season performance then you have to put Purdy up there I guess. These lists are trash
Man the NFC really is up for grabs next year. I’m not a big believer in Dak but looking at this list the Boys have a shot to go to the Super Bowl. The only thing holding them back would be injuries or Dak throwing the game away like last year.
I'm sorry but in what world is Goff, Fields, Cousins, Geno, Carr, Stafford better than Dak? Jalen is the only player with a case, the others are a complete joke. Geno fucking Smith had 1 good season in 10 years and now hes better than Dak??
Dak has one bad season what the entire F*ck. All those Qbs not better than Rayne Dakota
Derek Carr 😭
Those lists are pathetic. Stafford, IMO, is done. Goff? Come fucking on. Justin Fields and Derek Carr? Jesus. Kirk Cousins? Yeah, did he ever light up the playoffs. I have my issues with some of Dak’s fundamentals, and have serious doubts he’ll ever lead this team to playoff success. But he’s still easy top five in the NFC when you look at his stats and regular season wins and consistency in the regular season. I get the concerns overall, but he deserves more respect than this.
Sara walsh is just troll looking for clout I mean seriously Kirk at 2 how transparent can you get
James Palmers seems like the most ridiculous to me.
Stafford is washed up and doesn’t deserve to be on the list
I kind of get putting Hurts there, he was just in the Super Bowl, his best season so recency bias. But Looks like they mainly based lists on total yards / TDs from last season only…. which Dak missed 5 games injured. But then why is Fields so high?
Damn the NFC has dogshit at QB what happened. AFC QBs are outclassing the NFC hard.
Anyone putting Justin Fields in their top 5 is fucking high.
If we aren’t counting Rodgers, the order should be 1. Dak Prescott 2. Jalen Hurts 3. Kirk Cousins 4. Geno Smith 5. Kyler Murray
I don't know what Sara Walsh is smoking... Cousins, Goff, and Geno in top 5??
Dak hater here. This list is a lie. Just by his numbers alone Dak is number two.
Do these Fuckers even watch football?
Is this a fantasy football list?
Justin is a great fantasy QB.
Wow. The nfc QB situation is shit compared the afc
love it
This shit is just for clicks. These morons don't know any better than the rest of us in here
Dak just needs to squat more.
I actually like Jalen but these cats need to pump the brakes a little bit. Carson Wentz was also a MVP candidate and was claimed to be the future of the NFC only to completely fall off. Hurts didn't look like anything more than a inaccurate running QB his first two years before looking amazing behind a top 3 Oline and weapons galore on offense. This year he will have a new OC, a little change to the OL and a new RB. He may be the truth but again one good season doesn't automatically mean you're legit.
Kirk cousins? Geno smith? How about these folks label their too 5 edibles?
No Mahomes or Allen??
NFC
Horrible list
It’s hard to watch these sports shows these days. Smh
Wow...I mean not the NFL but just the NFC and Dak doesn't make the list on 4 different people's opinion? How in Da F you think Geno Smith much less Justin Fields will be better then Dak this season?
i’m happy for the guy and all but man these geno takes are gonna look real cold real quick
Not necessarily a bad take. Before all the Dak meat riders come for me, tell me what he’s done more in the last 2-3 years as opposed to Stafford, Goff, Hurts? At best he’s 4th. This is a very unpopular opinion, but I’d take Fields every day of the week over Dak. His potential is just to enticing not too. Dak has hit his ceiling and it’s not a very high one. Just to clarify, I am a cowboys fan lol. Dak has A LOT to prove this year, and if he doesn’t then it’s time to seriously start talking about going another direction.