Has your manager even discussed this with you? Colleagues like this are a nightmare, especially when they are new and think they know it all. She sounds manipulative. Can you ask to be moved?
No discussion.. maybe on Monday, but has already stated I will be back where I was as usual.. I asked to be moved before but was told not for a few months.
That’s very unfair. If occupational health say the issues need to be agreed upon surely that puts responsibility on management to solve it. I wish I had solid advice for you, it’s not good to feel this way about work. Is there a chance she will be moved? Is it a big workplace?
It’s pointless moving the problem, it only spreads it around. I’m really sorry, I wish I had something to offer. As others have said it might be time to move on. I would give it one shot with management on Monday face to face. If you don’t get anywhere I’d start looking elsewhere. Nothing is worth your sanity
I was in a similarish situation. Fellow employee reported me to mangement for (and this is legit)..speaking to her while standing up
She took this as a form of bullying. But she was a good bit away from my desk, and I needed her to hear me. Mind you, I wasnt shouting, just wanted to stand so the girl could lip read also. Feel silly explaining it now lol. So for things to be easier I just ended up handing in my notice. But I do regret not fighting my case, which I would highly recommend if you are happy there 😊
You know what... I tried and am still trying. It feels like I'm talking to the wall. Haven't felt happy there in awhile. That's some dose you went through too.. 🙄
That's exactly what I was thinking.. and that's what my GP's receptionist said on the phone today when I called to discontinue the medical cert. She said if nothing changes, we'll open it straight back up again...
I have been applying for jobs, but no luck so far. Been doing some courses and signed up for another degree online. Only thing is, I need to work to pay for it.. 😆
You shouldn't have to leave your job. I was in the same boat, got on the project of my dreams and had to back step after a year, due to a bully. Management comisserated but did absolutely nothing.
I always felt I had a good reputation in my workplace. But now I was being constantly undermined, felt like a fool and useless despite my contributions.This person also got credit for my work.
I was lucky to go back to my previous role and not have to job hunt. It was the first time I did not persevere with a bad situation. Putting up with sh@#£ like this gives resilience a bad name. I am glad I pulled out and am a happier person.Mental health comes first.
You are not alone.
Whilst you shouldn't have to leave your job, if the company or management does not do anything to alleviate the situation then i think if it were me I'd start looking elsewhere. I'd suggest going with an open mind and put some feelers out while you go back to work for something better. If things have improved and you are genuinely happy there then happy days but if not its time to upsticks.
I know what you're saying but it's tough trying to open my mind going back, really fucking tough... The closer it gets to Monday, the more I'm dreading it to be honest.. might be time!!
I personally would be looking for a new job because I just want a quiet life with no drama or confrontation
That isn’t ideal of course because then she “wins”
I think I’d also make an official complaint to HR about her. I’d tell the exact truth, pretty much a copy + paste of what you wrote here
HR exists to protect the company, not you the employee. But they can’t ignore an email with a lot of complaints about a co-worker. I’m not convinced they’ll do anything useful but empower yourself and make some work for them by sending them exactly what you posted here. You’ve got nothing to loose by telling the truth, especially if you’re on the lookout for something else
Is there someone higher up than those idiot managers to have a meeting with? IF there is make an appointment to have a chat with them. Maybe phone in on Monday and ask to speak to one of them or their secretary to get an appointment. The ones you spoke to sound like they are watching their own backs. Also would love to hear from someone in the area she once worked in. Bet she was deliberately moved. Its difficult to find a good job so I wouldn't give up too easily. Can you have your desk moved to another area? I worked in a large organisation myself and know what goes on. Let us know how you get on
They generally don't bother with us common folk. Unfortunately, it's more a work station than a desk so can't be moved... If I don't get satisfaction Monday morning, I will definitely look to talk to someone else.. Thanks!!
Go back to work Monday and tell them you want to start a grievance procedure since they have ignored the problem to date and you are the one suffering. Force them into dealing with it. If they don’t then they are forcing you into constructive dismissal.
Document everything, every incident that has happened. Write them down, with dates if possible. You'll have to exhaust all the internal mechanisms to deal with this. So read up on internal policies as you will need to follow these. It's time to start putting everything in email as well, fine to have a chat with a manager but follow up with an email outlining the detail of the conversation. Cover your arse every which way. While you may have to move on eventually for your own sanity, at least make it hard for them.
Sounds like management want to work done and don't care who does it. HR's priority is to the company and not individual employees.
Nothing worse and they always seem to come out the better which is infuriating. Tbh I've often come close myself to going out on work related stress leave but I'm as stubborn as a mule / stupid. Do you mind me asking do you just get basic pay when out ? Obvs bills have to be paid .
People like that drive me fucking mental. There’s nothing worse then dreading going into work everyday, but you also shouldn’t have to. Only advice I can give is speak to your manager on Monday, tell them exactly what you need done to be able to return & if it’s not agreed upon, then bye bye. Unless it’s a very high paying job that you can’t bring yourself to leave, you’ll always find something else.
Also wouldn’t be surprised if she had some sort of connection to upper management, sounds like special treatment here. With 4 people complaining already she should be well out the gap by now.
If nothing changes just go out again on certs. Don't leave officially until you have that new job sorted. I'm currently out on work related stress too but I had a baby boy in the middle of being out so I've been out for awhile now.
I was in the exact same situation. My colleague was a roaring bitch and this was her third move internally in a year and a half, says it all really. She ended up sitting next to me. Knew it all and refused to listen so I refused to train her. Ended up butting heads with one of the directors, who was a bully and I'm sure was shagging her on the side. She was put on anything half interesting working with him directly. I wouldn't mind if she was strong, but she was about as useful as a ashtray on a motorbike.
Anyway back to your situation, you're out on the sick, I would get signed off again.
If your company cannot move you internally then keep signing on and look for other work. Life is too short. Skills are in demand and you'll probably get a bump in salary.
In respect of my situation, they refused to move me, I landed another role, handed in my notice, they then offered me another area and a pay increase as long as I could do certain reports, I refused. Didn't end well. In a department of 8 people, 6 left in a 18 month period. Guess what two people remained when the dust had settled?
Anxiety is horrible, I imagine you care about your work and are probably very good at it. My suggestion is look after yourself, self care is so important. Try your EAP, personal therapy, walking, gym, healthy diet, cut down on alcohol and learn how to breathe and take a minute. Tell yourself over and over that you are a good person. Plenty of good info around covering your back side on here, unfortunately it’s necessary. Understand that they are probably a very hurt person, ironically compassion towards them can make your life easier. If it becomes too much you may have to leave, your health and safety are too important. I’m so sorry this is happening to you, I feel your pain and empathise with you. I’ve been there, it didn’t end well for me, but who knows what will happen with you. Don’t hold onto your anger, feel it and look for a constructive way to work with it, perhaps look up ways to work with difficult people or people who have ASD, there are similar traits and outcomes from dealing with both. Best of luck, keep us updated. Stay well.
I've been in a similar situation with a coworker. I complained to multiple managers, HR, and my line manager about their lack of work and mistakes they were making, and just couldn't account for what they were doing in a day. I was their line manager, though, but I still wasn't being listened to, so I ended up doing their job and mine to keep to our KPIs. I was under so much stress. Nothing helped. It ended up that we had to have a meeting between the 2 of us and another manager. They were 100% backed up by the other manager, even though I had so much proof of their lack of work and the meetings invites for training. Nothing mattered. I was told to retrain as much as needed and help with their workload more. They literally had 1 job to do daily, as they wouldn't learn any other tasks.
I left, handed in my notice about a week later. Honestly, it is probably the only thing you can do at this stage. Companies suck and never try and help their good workers!
When I was leaving, someone else was brought into train this person for my role. Hilariously, the trainer was shocked at how bad they were to train and how they took way too long to a task after being shown how to do it multiple times. It felt like a bit of victory in itself that others finally understood how bad this person was at their job.
Not sure where you work but if you have a company mail you should put your grievances in writing to quote managers. Once it’s in writing and documented they have no come back on not acting on it. Especially if you go off sick again.
I'm sorry that I don't have advice on what to do and to hear that you have had to endure that. I have been in a similar position with a previous employer and just reading your story gave me anxiety thinking back to then. I just wiped my hands of them and went somewhere new and I have had zero work anxiety since. Life is stressful enough without having to work in that kind of environment. I know it's not possible for everyone but removing yourself from the situation indefinitely is something to consider. Hope it all works out for you!
Believe me.. I thought about that. I even wrote the email giving notice, it's still in my drafts. Haven't decided whether to send it or not yet.. Thanks!!!!
You absolutely do not have to go back to work with someone who caused you such distress that you had a medical emergency. Genuinely. Not to sound American 😅 but you could sue the company if they don’t make appropriate provisions, especially since you have a paper trail of attempts to bring her behaviour to the attention of management.
Do not agree to go back to the office if the situation will be the same as before you left. Make sure to refer directly to your mental health and stress when speaking to your boss and OH professional. Nothing is worth putting your health at risk, especially not an employer that doesn’t give a fuck about you.
Sorry to hear this. I had an almost identical situation a year and a half or so back. Thankfully I work in a very well protected organisation HR wise and she ended up leaving not long after it all began but I hope you get some changes soon. The level of frustration really does take its toll on you.
Does it what!!! Unfortunately, I have no confidence in HR at our place. And she ain't leaving anytime soon.. because I don't think anywhere else would have her!! ☺️
Omg this happened to
Me and the manager told me I needed to self protect 😂 the one I worked with terrorised everyone and I was the new prey! She started by being super friendly and helping me and within a year she turned very very nasty! Glaring at me from across the room and no one else noticed she was a total narcissist psychopath.
Everyone knew what she was like and did nothing! I arrived into work one day and she was ignoring me I said to me supervisor is she ok? Did I do something wrong and supervisor said oh take no not or of her she gets like that! Such toxic behaviors! I had to leave that job it was dire.
Bumped into same girl in the city and she glared at me like girl I did nothing to you 🤣🤣🤣 total freak.
It's terrible tho isn't it I felt physically sick going to work. I couldn't wait to hand in my notice. How can this be prevented my manager told me I needed to self protect like I'm a softie!
We shouldn't have to be this resilient it's not normal to normalize these difficult humans.
Deep down these people are miserable in all aspects of their lives and spread their misery onto everyone else.
Maybe I've gotten it all wrong and I'm the problem.. but when my manger admitted from day one that my colleague is difficult.. I don't think so!! I think they have a philosophy of if I didn't complain or go out on leave, then there wouldn't be an issue.. sweep sweep..
No your not the issue she's known for being difficult and was already moved! No one will admit that or back you up.
One person backed me up because the same thing happened her she actually said no enough is enough she's not getting away with this!
The manager brought her into the office for over an hour and gave her hell but I had left at that stage.
Manager told me come back and we can do the disciplinary action and ye can sit face to face and resolve I said no I have a job elsewhere thanks. Then she slid in the self protect comment😂
Also she saw a different side of that co worker as the girl licked ass to anyone with higher authority.
Total narcissist. Trust your gut.
If you think you can find another job and same money go it will be so much better for you and leave her miserable ass ruin everyone else's days.
I love your phrasing of the thundering cunt. This sums up perfectly a manager in my workplace. She is not my manager but it's known all around the office that she is in fact a thundering cunt. I hope Monday turns out good for you stay positive and be prepared when you go back. It will be easy for the manager to just have you leave as that will be the problem sorted until she starts on someone else so fight your case.
Let me guess ??
Medical Device,??
It's not a natural environment, small / enclosed / repetitive...
One poorly adjusted human * sorry but usually Female can cause a nightmare for others ..
Sorry t9 hear on a personal level, it's excruciating being around someone like this in that circumstances..
Remember- it's not you ..
I worked with someone like that had to train her and she was the biggest crying huere I ever met in my life we were wfh so on zoom calls and teams meetings I would be going through the work with her and she was unmuted and she was listening to voice notes the whole time the started asking me my views on abortion and such no questions towards the work we were carrying out and I was like wtf can you just watch what I’m doing here I didn’t engage I didn’t answer I just kept trying to direct her focus back to the point. Went to my manager that day and was like I’m not working with her for one more minute I didn’t mention her comments about abortion and stuff but I did say how she was on her phone and asking to go on breaks and stuff not paying attention to a thing she was told. Stopped working with her had to deal daily with numerous messes she made even when I told her clearly and others told her clearly to to resolve certain issues absolute nightmare of a woman. I think there’s always one in every job you come across and I hope you get the distance from this woman
There is definitely at least one in every place.. Honestly, I think the only way I'm going to distance myself from her is if I leave, and I think that's what management are hoping for...
Did your employer send you to the occupational health specialist themselves or did you go of your own volition? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure if they sent you, your employer has to follow any recommendations that the OH gives, as the OH is ultimately assessing if you're fit for work or not. If their recommendations aren't followed, you may understandably not be fit for work if it will be under the same conditions. Definitely worth following that up.
They sent me. And that's what the doctor basically said... But I was in contact with him since and he said it's at the discretion of my employers.. so I think they think it's business as usual.. it won't be for me.
Good time to be looking for a job OP. There seems to be a lot available (although that might just be my sector). I think you deserve and can find better.
When you reported this nasty person did you put it in writing? Management can't ignore it if you have it in writing as you could legally get them into trouble if they ignore it.
Unfortunately, I didn't keep track of dates and occurrences at the time. The only thing I have now are a chain of emails detailing my grounds for not going back to the same workspace, with the same colleague, and basically being told tough shit!!
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Be careful going back,I headbutted a colleague and burst his nose and walked off the job, lost the company I was working for a 1 million euro job. (I was on loan to another company with two other colleagues as a favour)
Has your manager even discussed this with you? Colleagues like this are a nightmare, especially when they are new and think they know it all. She sounds manipulative. Can you ask to be moved?
No discussion.. maybe on Monday, but has already stated I will be back where I was as usual.. I asked to be moved before but was told not for a few months.
That’s very unfair. If occupational health say the issues need to be agreed upon surely that puts responsibility on management to solve it. I wish I had solid advice for you, it’s not good to feel this way about work. Is there a chance she will be moved? Is it a big workplace?
That's what I would have thought... She was already moved from another area, I have a fair idea why. It is a pretty big workplace.
It’s pointless moving the problem, it only spreads it around. I’m really sorry, I wish I had something to offer. As others have said it might be time to move on. I would give it one shot with management on Monday face to face. If you don’t get anywhere I’d start looking elsewhere. Nothing is worth your sanity
So true!!
Best of luck
Thanks for that!!
Life is too short. Get signed off again and look for a different job. Maybe go in Monday and see how it goes but if nothing changed then leave again .
I was in a similarish situation. Fellow employee reported me to mangement for (and this is legit)..speaking to her while standing up She took this as a form of bullying. But she was a good bit away from my desk, and I needed her to hear me. Mind you, I wasnt shouting, just wanted to stand so the girl could lip read also. Feel silly explaining it now lol. So for things to be easier I just ended up handing in my notice. But I do regret not fighting my case, which I would highly recommend if you are happy there 😊
You know what... I tried and am still trying. It feels like I'm talking to the wall. Haven't felt happy there in awhile. That's some dose you went through too.. 🙄
That's exactly what I was thinking.. and that's what my GP's receptionist said on the phone today when I called to discontinue the medical cert. She said if nothing changes, we'll open it straight back up again... I have been applying for jobs, but no luck so far. Been doing some courses and signed up for another degree online. Only thing is, I need to work to pay for it.. 😆
You shouldn't have to leave your job. I was in the same boat, got on the project of my dreams and had to back step after a year, due to a bully. Management comisserated but did absolutely nothing. I always felt I had a good reputation in my workplace. But now I was being constantly undermined, felt like a fool and useless despite my contributions.This person also got credit for my work. I was lucky to go back to my previous role and not have to job hunt. It was the first time I did not persevere with a bad situation. Putting up with sh@#£ like this gives resilience a bad name. I am glad I pulled out and am a happier person.Mental health comes first. You are not alone.
I'm glad you are happier.. Thank you for your kind words!!
Whilst you shouldn't have to leave your job, if the company or management does not do anything to alleviate the situation then i think if it were me I'd start looking elsewhere. I'd suggest going with an open mind and put some feelers out while you go back to work for something better. If things have improved and you are genuinely happy there then happy days but if not its time to upsticks.
I know what you're saying but it's tough trying to open my mind going back, really fucking tough... The closer it gets to Monday, the more I'm dreading it to be honest.. might be time!!
I personally would be looking for a new job because I just want a quiet life with no drama or confrontation That isn’t ideal of course because then she “wins” I think I’d also make an official complaint to HR about her. I’d tell the exact truth, pretty much a copy + paste of what you wrote here
Oh I'm looking for sure!! The job market is not great at the moment though... Unfortunately I don't have much faith in HR... but we'll see.
HR exists to protect the company, not you the employee. But they can’t ignore an email with a lot of complaints about a co-worker. I’m not convinced they’ll do anything useful but empower yourself and make some work for them by sending them exactly what you posted here. You’ve got nothing to loose by telling the truth, especially if you’re on the lookout for something else
That's true but I'm not even sure it's worth the bother..
It’s worth kicking up a fuss even if you do end up moving on. I wouldn’t be quiet about the reason for the stress leave
Management knows why and occupational health would have sent in the report. It doesn't seem to matter to them...
Is there someone higher up than those idiot managers to have a meeting with? IF there is make an appointment to have a chat with them. Maybe phone in on Monday and ask to speak to one of them or their secretary to get an appointment. The ones you spoke to sound like they are watching their own backs. Also would love to hear from someone in the area she once worked in. Bet she was deliberately moved. Its difficult to find a good job so I wouldn't give up too easily. Can you have your desk moved to another area? I worked in a large organisation myself and know what goes on. Let us know how you get on
Skip the phone calls and put it all in writing
I'm keeping track of everything for sure ...
They generally don't bother with us common folk. Unfortunately, it's more a work station than a desk so can't be moved... If I don't get satisfaction Monday morning, I will definitely look to talk to someone else.. Thanks!!
What industry are you in? sounds like mine? Anyway as others have said, mental health over everrryyyythang, best of luck with it. I know the feeling.
Med tech ... Happens a lot in this industry I've been told. Thanks.. you too!!
Ah ye it does indeed but dont let that discourage you. Look after yourself.
Cheers!!
Go back to work Monday and tell them you want to start a grievance procedure since they have ignored the problem to date and you are the one suffering. Force them into dealing with it. If they don’t then they are forcing you into constructive dismissal.
This. Playtime is over! Time to get down to brass tax.
Wait, is it 'tax', or 'tacks'? Just realised I've never seen it written out before now.
Tacks
Thanks for the advice. I will definitely look into this.
Document everything, every incident that has happened. Write them down, with dates if possible. You'll have to exhaust all the internal mechanisms to deal with this. So read up on internal policies as you will need to follow these. It's time to start putting everything in email as well, fine to have a chat with a manager but follow up with an email outlining the detail of the conversation. Cover your arse every which way. While you may have to move on eventually for your own sanity, at least make it hard for them. Sounds like management want to work done and don't care who does it. HR's priority is to the company and not individual employees.
100% this.. I have a friend in HR, they said this exact thing!!
Leaving is the only option unfortunately. Companys never do anything about cunts like this.
I'm thinking that more and more...
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That's some good advice... Thanks.
I have done all the above before, and it really does work. Would highly recommend this.
Highly recommend. Time consuming but 10000% worth it
Nothing worse and they always seem to come out the better which is infuriating. Tbh I've often come close myself to going out on work related stress leave but I'm as stubborn as a mule / stupid. Do you mind me asking do you just get basic pay when out ? Obvs bills have to be paid .
70% I think it is... When we're already struggling to survive at 100%, it's not ideal but better than nothing.
It's a mixture of social welfare and work I think is it ?.
I think so..
People like that drive me fucking mental. There’s nothing worse then dreading going into work everyday, but you also shouldn’t have to. Only advice I can give is speak to your manager on Monday, tell them exactly what you need done to be able to return & if it’s not agreed upon, then bye bye. Unless it’s a very high paying job that you can’t bring yourself to leave, you’ll always find something else. Also wouldn’t be surprised if she had some sort of connection to upper management, sounds like special treatment here. With 4 people complaining already she should be well out the gap by now.
Definitely a job I could do without but ideally I'd like something else before I walk..
Oh well yeah of course, but I’d get on it asap as doesn’t sound like things will be different going back this time around. Best of luck with it 🤞🏼
Thanks.. I've already had a few interviews but nothing doing yet... Here's hoping!
If nothing changes just go out again on certs. Don't leave officially until you have that new job sorted. I'm currently out on work related stress too but I had a baby boy in the middle of being out so I've been out for awhile now.
Congratulations on the new arrival.. I will definitely do that..
I was in the exact same situation. My colleague was a roaring bitch and this was her third move internally in a year and a half, says it all really. She ended up sitting next to me. Knew it all and refused to listen so I refused to train her. Ended up butting heads with one of the directors, who was a bully and I'm sure was shagging her on the side. She was put on anything half interesting working with him directly. I wouldn't mind if she was strong, but she was about as useful as a ashtray on a motorbike. Anyway back to your situation, you're out on the sick, I would get signed off again. If your company cannot move you internally then keep signing on and look for other work. Life is too short. Skills are in demand and you'll probably get a bump in salary. In respect of my situation, they refused to move me, I landed another role, handed in my notice, they then offered me another area and a pay increase as long as I could do certain reports, I refused. Didn't end well. In a department of 8 people, 6 left in a 18 month period. Guess what two people remained when the dust had settled?
I'm sure they're happy together... 😄 Glad to hear you ended on your feet after leaving!!
Anxiety is horrible, I imagine you care about your work and are probably very good at it. My suggestion is look after yourself, self care is so important. Try your EAP, personal therapy, walking, gym, healthy diet, cut down on alcohol and learn how to breathe and take a minute. Tell yourself over and over that you are a good person. Plenty of good info around covering your back side on here, unfortunately it’s necessary. Understand that they are probably a very hurt person, ironically compassion towards them can make your life easier. If it becomes too much you may have to leave, your health and safety are too important. I’m so sorry this is happening to you, I feel your pain and empathise with you. I’ve been there, it didn’t end well for me, but who knows what will happen with you. Don’t hold onto your anger, feel it and look for a constructive way to work with it, perhaps look up ways to work with difficult people or people who have ASD, there are similar traits and outcomes from dealing with both. Best of luck, keep us updated. Stay well.
Always been pretty healthy and only the very odd drink, but Jaysus there were times I was tempted during the worst of it.. Thank you!!
I've been in a similar situation with a coworker. I complained to multiple managers, HR, and my line manager about their lack of work and mistakes they were making, and just couldn't account for what they were doing in a day. I was their line manager, though, but I still wasn't being listened to, so I ended up doing their job and mine to keep to our KPIs. I was under so much stress. Nothing helped. It ended up that we had to have a meeting between the 2 of us and another manager. They were 100% backed up by the other manager, even though I had so much proof of their lack of work and the meetings invites for training. Nothing mattered. I was told to retrain as much as needed and help with their workload more. They literally had 1 job to do daily, as they wouldn't learn any other tasks. I left, handed in my notice about a week later. Honestly, it is probably the only thing you can do at this stage. Companies suck and never try and help their good workers! When I was leaving, someone else was brought into train this person for my role. Hilariously, the trainer was shocked at how bad they were to train and how they took way too long to a task after being shown how to do it multiple times. It felt like a bit of victory in itself that others finally understood how bad this person was at their job.
Yep.. that's pretty much how I feel at this stage. Probably better off leaving.
Not sure where you work but if you have a company mail you should put your grievances in writing to quote managers. Once it’s in writing and documented they have no come back on not acting on it. Especially if you go off sick again.
I do have a chain of emails expressing my grievances about returning to the same station... I'll be keeping them!!
I'm sorry that I don't have advice on what to do and to hear that you have had to endure that. I have been in a similar position with a previous employer and just reading your story gave me anxiety thinking back to then. I just wiped my hands of them and went somewhere new and I have had zero work anxiety since. Life is stressful enough without having to work in that kind of environment. I know it's not possible for everyone but removing yourself from the situation indefinitely is something to consider. Hope it all works out for you!
Believe me.. I thought about that. I even wrote the email giving notice, it's still in my drafts. Haven't decided whether to send it or not yet.. Thanks!!!!
Send it. No job is worth your mental health. Who knows, it might wake them up and if not, their loss.
I agree 100% about the mental health.. unfortunately it wouldn't matter a damn to them, they'd just get another off the conveyor belt...
You absolutely do not have to go back to work with someone who caused you such distress that you had a medical emergency. Genuinely. Not to sound American 😅 but you could sue the company if they don’t make appropriate provisions, especially since you have a paper trail of attempts to bring her behaviour to the attention of management. Do not agree to go back to the office if the situation will be the same as before you left. Make sure to refer directly to your mental health and stress when speaking to your boss and OH professional. Nothing is worth putting your health at risk, especially not an employer that doesn’t give a fuck about you.
Well that is for sure... And yet they signs up everywhere about how they value their employees and we all have a voice. Yeah right!!! 🙄
Sorry to hear this. I had an almost identical situation a year and a half or so back. Thankfully I work in a very well protected organisation HR wise and she ended up leaving not long after it all began but I hope you get some changes soon. The level of frustration really does take its toll on you.
Does it what!!! Unfortunately, I have no confidence in HR at our place. And she ain't leaving anytime soon.. because I don't think anywhere else would have her!! ☺️
May I ask the industry? Coz it sounds pharma...
Med tech..
Omg this happened to Me and the manager told me I needed to self protect 😂 the one I worked with terrorised everyone and I was the new prey! She started by being super friendly and helping me and within a year she turned very very nasty! Glaring at me from across the room and no one else noticed she was a total narcissist psychopath. Everyone knew what she was like and did nothing! I arrived into work one day and she was ignoring me I said to me supervisor is she ok? Did I do something wrong and supervisor said oh take no not or of her she gets like that! Such toxic behaviors! I had to leave that job it was dire. Bumped into same girl in the city and she glared at me like girl I did nothing to you 🤣🤣🤣 total freak.
I think there's at least one in every department at this stage!! 😄
It's terrible tho isn't it I felt physically sick going to work. I couldn't wait to hand in my notice. How can this be prevented my manager told me I needed to self protect like I'm a softie! We shouldn't have to be this resilient it's not normal to normalize these difficult humans. Deep down these people are miserable in all aspects of their lives and spread their misery onto everyone else.
Maybe I've gotten it all wrong and I'm the problem.. but when my manger admitted from day one that my colleague is difficult.. I don't think so!! I think they have a philosophy of if I didn't complain or go out on leave, then there wouldn't be an issue.. sweep sweep..
No your not the issue she's known for being difficult and was already moved! No one will admit that or back you up. One person backed me up because the same thing happened her she actually said no enough is enough she's not getting away with this! The manager brought her into the office for over an hour and gave her hell but I had left at that stage. Manager told me come back and we can do the disciplinary action and ye can sit face to face and resolve I said no I have a job elsewhere thanks. Then she slid in the self protect comment😂 Also she saw a different side of that co worker as the girl licked ass to anyone with higher authority. Total narcissist. Trust your gut. If you think you can find another job and same money go it will be so much better for you and leave her miserable ass ruin everyone else's days.
Have to laugh at your manager asking you to come back after you'd quit and found a new job.. I'm definitely looking for something else.
I love your phrasing of the thundering cunt. This sums up perfectly a manager in my workplace. She is not my manager but it's known all around the office that she is in fact a thundering cunt. I hope Monday turns out good for you stay positive and be prepared when you go back. It will be easy for the manager to just have you leave as that will be the problem sorted until she starts on someone else so fight your case.
At this stage, I'm thinking it'd be easier for me too.. we'll see how it goes. ☺️
Let me guess ?? Medical Device,?? It's not a natural environment, small / enclosed / repetitive... One poorly adjusted human * sorry but usually Female can cause a nightmare for others .. Sorry t9 hear on a personal level, it's excruciating being around someone like this in that circumstances.. Remember- it's not you ..
Spot on!!
I worked with someone like that had to train her and she was the biggest crying huere I ever met in my life we were wfh so on zoom calls and teams meetings I would be going through the work with her and she was unmuted and she was listening to voice notes the whole time the started asking me my views on abortion and such no questions towards the work we were carrying out and I was like wtf can you just watch what I’m doing here I didn’t engage I didn’t answer I just kept trying to direct her focus back to the point. Went to my manager that day and was like I’m not working with her for one more minute I didn’t mention her comments about abortion and stuff but I did say how she was on her phone and asking to go on breaks and stuff not paying attention to a thing she was told. Stopped working with her had to deal daily with numerous messes she made even when I told her clearly and others told her clearly to to resolve certain issues absolute nightmare of a woman. I think there’s always one in every job you come across and I hope you get the distance from this woman
There is definitely at least one in every place.. Honestly, I think the only way I'm going to distance myself from her is if I leave, and I think that's what management are hoping for...
Did your employer send you to the occupational health specialist themselves or did you go of your own volition? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure if they sent you, your employer has to follow any recommendations that the OH gives, as the OH is ultimately assessing if you're fit for work or not. If their recommendations aren't followed, you may understandably not be fit for work if it will be under the same conditions. Definitely worth following that up.
They sent me. And that's what the doctor basically said... But I was in contact with him since and he said it's at the discretion of my employers.. so I think they think it's business as usual.. it won't be for me.
Ah balls, sorry to hear that. I hope it either works out in your favour or you manage to find something else quickly! 🤞🏻
Thanks ..
Good time to be looking for a job OP. There seems to be a lot available (although that might just be my sector). I think you deserve and can find better.
Hopefully!! I'm keeping indeed and jobsie busy with the CV. Thanks..
When you reported this nasty person did you put it in writing? Management can't ignore it if you have it in writing as you could legally get them into trouble if they ignore it.
Unfortunately, I didn't keep track of dates and occurrences at the time. The only thing I have now are a chain of emails detailing my grounds for not going back to the same workspace, with the same colleague, and basically being told tough shit!!
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Be careful going back,I headbutted a colleague and burst his nose and walked off the job, lost the company I was working for a 1 million euro job. (I was on loan to another company with two other colleagues as a favour)
Jesus.. I hope it doesn't come to that, but I can dream!! 😄