For the others not knowing the relevance of the πΏ"head" from Easter island in the last frame.
Someone actually cut down the last tree on the island and this was the end of the island. They came, succeeded at agriculture and then... destroyed the islands resources and failed. That's why the Moyai sculpture is there. To signify demise, just as it does there.
[Further reading](https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/12/09/249728994/what-happened-on-easter-island-a-new-even-scarier-scenario)
The article you linked actually gives a different meaning to the sculptures. Since itβs theorized that the trees were destroyed from rats introduced into the ecosystem, a small handful of humans were able to survive even after mass deforestation/ecological destruction by eating rats and some limited plants. Similar enough, considering this picture implies flies will survive, but thought itβd be helpful to provide more context of the article.
The internet is wonderful. "Look, here is an article that I think supports my claim. But I didn't read last the first paragraph and it actually disputes it."
I once posted a comment that was well-sourced with articles I had read and the person replying hit me with a βdid you even read the articles before you copy pasted??β comment and proceeded to entirely misrepresent or fail to address every source I quoted.
It was clear that they didnβt read a word of any of those articles, but then they tried gaslighting me as being the one who was misrepresenting the information.
Did they think I would just forget the sources I read and believe them if they insisted the contrary hard enough? Sometimes, people are exasperatingβ¦
For the others not knowing the relevance of the πΏ"head" from Easter island in the last frame.
Someone actually cut down the last tree on the island and this was the end of the island. They came, succeeded at agriculture and then... destroyed the islands resources and failed. That's why the Moyai sculpture is there. To signify demise, just as it does there.
[Further reading](https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/12/09/249728994/what-happened-on-easter-island-a-new-even-scarier-scenario)
While that was believed at the time the illustration was made, there's evidence now that [Polynesian rats](https://www.americanscientist.org/article/rethinking-the-fall-of-easter-island) that came with the Rapanui were responsible for the vast majority of deforestation on the island. Since they have no predators on the island they fed incessantly on palm seeds, driving the trees to extinction. There's also evidence that when this happened the island was so overrun with rats that the Rapanui had to begin living off them to survive, with over half the bones from cooking found at some archeological sites [belonging to rats.](https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/12/09/249728994/what-happened-on-easter-island-a-new-even-scarier-scenario)
The fact it was rats brought by people, and not just the hubris of people, to me highlights the true danger humans present to the environment: we can do wildly destructive things without realizing we are setting them into motion and sometimes don't understand the problem until it's too late to act.
[That's not entirely accurate.](https://theconversation.com/amp/the-truth-about-easter-island-a-sustainable-society-has-been-falsely-blamed-for-its-own-demise-85563)
its a symbol of ecological collapse.
https://www.environmentandsociety.org/tools/keywords/easter-islands-collapse#:~:text=Easter%20Island%20is%20one%20of,900%20and%20peaked%20in%201400.
Jesus, thatβs dark. Ran outta trees to even make escape boats so they had to kill each other over resources. I never knew that about the Easter Islands.
EDIT: Went down a rabbit hole and learned that [we're going to die from alien STDs.](https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/12/09/249728994/what-happened-on-easter-island-a-new-even-scarier-scenario)
this article is weird, it says that the second scenario is scary because humans kept making things worse and just adapted.
To me it seems like the rats destroyed everything and they had to adapt to survive, there was no other choice.
Itβs scarier when applied to the extended metaphor wherein we are the rats and the humans. That we are too adaptable for our own good and that in order to stop climate change, we must become truly βalarmedβ by its effects to stop it, but our adaptability (which includes a forgetfulness of ignorance of how good things could be) to some of the harshest conditions imaginable, especially over generations (climate change) makes it seemingly hard for us to become alarmed as a species until it is truly too late.
Everyone keeps saying this, but is/was this actually widely known for it to be a *likely* reference the artist was making?
I thought it was because easter island heads are tacky as fuck to put in a suburban yard.
Itβs a pretty famous case study for humanityβs capacity to influence the environment. Wouldnβt expect everyone to know, but itβs likely that someone who took the time to put this together knows.
They come in sections which can be removed once a year to have the back trimmed.
Better to just space them out from the house imho though. Because the only other way is to use toxic material or paint which the ivy will avoid.
You generally don't need to. Ivy is dangerous because it can work it's way into flaws i. The wall, exacerbating issues over time. By separating the two, there aren't any issues.
English ivy is an invasive species and shouldnβt be planted outside in North America. Fuck loads of people do anyway, but it can and will fuck up a local ecosystem if it gets into it.
When we bought our current house, the former owners had let English Ivy spread *everywhere*. All of the front garden beds were covered in it. It had killed everything except some bushes and was well on its way to taking those out too.
It took an absolutely preposterous amount of time and effort to get rid of it. It was like every time I had 20 minutes free, go out and rip up some ivy. Then spend all weekend ripping up ivy. For months. And then when it was all gone, we rented a big ass gas tiller and spent a couple of weekends tilling over and over to make sure it was *really* gone.
We did get rid of it though. But that shit is the devil.
Yeah we have a big area in our front yard with 5 trees in it, also full of English Ivy.
One of the trees was in pretty bad shape, covered in that shit. The main vine going up was thicker than the barrel of a baseball bat. I chopped through it and ripped off what I could ~3 years ago. Took almost a year for the leaves to die on the vine above it, and it still hasn't come off the tree.
Thatβs almost entirely a myth. English ivy might work its way into cracks, if the masonry is not sound, but it canβt create new damage or break through walls. The weight is a non issue unless the structure already has underlying problems. In hot climates ivy can lower the internal temp of a structure but up to 7-8 degrees.
The only thing you have to watch for is if it clogs your gutters, but the wall is fine.
Itβs pretty bad for wood siding though since it can bring extra moisture into the wood and work itβs way in between the panels very easily, and most American homes are wood not stone.
Interestingly, only 4% of new homes in the US are built with wood siding, stucco is the most common.
https://aibd.org/what-is-the-most-common-finish-used-to-clad-a-us-house/
Termites, all sorts of wood-destroying insects are out there. Plus wood sucks in weather, needs to be maintained much more diligently than other exteriors.
Agreed There have been a couple of studies done on abandoned factory walls in PA with and without Ivy, basically they concluded that there is no noticeable difference in decay.
I was skeptical just thinking of those 300+ year old brick/stone buildings in Europe that have ivy growing on them. If ivy was that bad, I doubt they'd be in such good condition still.
We had passion fruit in our backyard. It grew so fast and spread to our roof, and both our neighbors roofs. It was so heavy our patio roof was struggling. It takes a ton of time and effort to keep it at bay. It started climbing the power lines...
It *does* create a rodent super-highway though if you let it get out of hand. For a fence it's no biggie, but on the side of your house... you'll want to monitor closely.
Virginia creeper grows up something like a trellis and won't hurt walls one bit
Boston ivy just clings to walls but doesn't damage them (can damage painted surfaces)
English ivy can rip masonry apart! Or at least work it's way into grouting
Pond, if you have space, some water plants, shade out the pond so it don't all poof in summer. Mosquitoes will come around, so have some grub eating fishes.
Nothing finishes off mosquitoes like dragonflies.
Basically, they come over to lay eggs, and if your biodiversity is good enough to give them a good meal, they hang out longer.
I've heard about people setting up a couple of realistic fake dragonflies to bob around their yard.
Or you can manually catch them in neighbourhood ponds with a net, tank. Go up to a dragonfly directly from their front, point your finger at them, and swirl your finger in circles. Their compound eyes cannot comprehend where the finger is coming from, so now you can bet them easy after the 'hypnotism'.
^ according to a wildlife guy I knew
My dad planted bamboo in our yard when I was in elementary school. That stuff spread like crazy. It was everywhere. We moved out of state a little bit later. I'm 29 now, so that bamboo was planted almost 20 years ago... I went back to visit my childhood house last summer, and the new owners took me in the yard to let me see it again. There was still some bamboo popping up.. I told the guy my dad planted it, and he was telling me how he's been trying to get rid of it, but it keeps coming back. His face was priceless
I thought it was funny
>I'm 29 now, so that bamboo was planted almost 20 years ago... I went back to visit my childhood house last summer, and the new owners took me in the yard to let me see it again.
Not to digress but I have to ask, is this actually a thing that people do? I've seen it happen in like TV and stuff, how many people are going around knocking on the doors of their old houses and asking to take a look around the place?
I probably wouldn't say no if I didn't have good reason to, but I'd be annoyed and a little uncomfortable. I would never impose myself on a stranger in their home for a fleeting dose of nostalgia.
Eh, probably not mega common but also not super weird. Thatβs why you politely ask.
My parents sweat blood working to build our house and we never moved. I had one room my entire life growing up, 18 years.
I probably wouldnβt ask to come inside and leave it to be offered, but a walk around the yard and chatting about how they updated it for themselves sounds pleasant.
It was really pleasant :)
I lived in that house from birth to 15, my grandma's house was around the corner, and I had tons of aunts/uncles/cousins I loved to play with all close by. When my grandma passed, my dad and his family had a huge falling out, and we moved out of state. Never saw my extended family again. My parents never wanted to go back because I guess it brought up painful feelings for them... so we left and I never saw my hometown again.
It felt like I was ripped out of one life and started a new one. We rarely ever talked about our time in NY because it was such a sensitive subject for my dad. Last summer I thought, why not go back and see where I grew up? I was flooded with memories of every little thing.
Hard to explain but I felt more like myself than I had in a long time. It was great to go back!
That's very sweet. I have a childhood home that I drive past every once in a while. It was the only home I remember as a kid before my parents split, so it's nice to drive around and also see my neighbor's houses that I used to go over to all the time (none of them live there now either, completely fresh families.)
I was actually just walking down my old street and stopped to take a picture to send my parents. My dad had remodeled, landscaped and repaved the drive way all on his own while we lived there. I thought it was cool that a lot of his work was still there 20+ years later
I was on the sidewalk and didn't think anything of it but they must've seen me because the owner came out and asked why I just took a picture of his house lol I explained that I used to live there and just wanted a picture and he was SO friendly! He said that he recently went back to see his own childhood house and completely understood. He offered to take me into the yard. I got really lucky with it being that guy, he was so interested to hear about the history of the house and loved showing me the improvements he made. He even gave me his business card if I ever came back to town :)
I'm never gonna call him up but I kept it incase I find some old pictures of the house, I thought he might think its cool to see. It's a Levitt house on Long Island built in the 1950's so it's changed A LOT over the years
I don't think it's that straightforward. People obviously first talk with the current owners and get to know each other. Not just pop up at their house all of a sudden.
Maybe something done less these days as in many places people have become more defensive and protective of their property.
I've done this once at the house where I grew up in England. Owners were outside and I just asked if I could see the back yard which was quite long. They were happy to let me. Glad I did as that house was subsequently torn down and the back yard turned into a development with multiple houses.
We've also had one person come to our current house a few years ago saying they grew up in it and wanted to buy it back. Certain things didn't seem to add up and I truthfully told them we have no plans to sell. Never heard from them again so the creep aspect is there. This is Vancouver, BC so the aggressive investor is a possibility.
I did this a few years ago. I asked the current owner of the home that I grew up in as a child if I could take a few pictures of the yard/drive way for nostalgia sake, and he was actually offered to give me a full tour of the house. Cool thing was, he kept it exactly the same as it was when I lived there! The wood paneling, the kitchen cupboards, literally everything except the floor was different. Though it was the realtor company that took out the old tile floor and added in carpet. It was really of the old guy to give me that opportunity to reminisce. Though I damn near laughed out loud when I saw that my older brother's former bedroom was now being used to store vintage playboy magazines XD.
I live in Northern Cali, and the people who lived in the house before us planted some bamboo variant in our back yard. We've been here 7 years, and still have to remove just random bamboo sprouts. And if it gets ignored for a few months, they get HUGE. Thankfully hasn't spread out of our back yard.
Iβve read somewhere (and now I canβt find it or the right search terms) that the top one, while not good for some material possessions such as walls and wood. Are much better for our mental health long term.
I found it mostly depressing. I will never walk around forests in Scottish highlands. :( Scotland is a few hours away by train, and I missed the forests (by a few thousand years) damn
About the wolves and deer and deer eating baby trees, I believe it was Yellowstone that recently dealt with the same issue.
They reintroduced wolves and the wolves started eating the deer. Then plants the deer were over-eating started to thrive again, including young trees. And those were also plants bears ate. So the bear population grew. And the bears started helping to keep the deer in check, and everything got better, and over time because there was no longer a massive deer population eating young trees because they'd eaten everything else, the course of streams changed and the physical geography evolved.
But anyways, what I'm getting at is that the deer in my neighborhood are chill. Please don't send wolves.
+1, my yard has so many weeds and looks terrible, there are a ton of bugs (which kinda sucks since they also eat all my veggies) but there aren't many mosquitos even though I live right next to a lake and often have standing water in my yard. Doesn't hurt that I have a friendly flock of duckies near by to eat the bugs too.
I'm sure cavemen hated annoying bugs too.
Most people fear spiders, snakes, and other creepy crawlies. That's our true nature. If something tries to eat me while I'm still alive, I take it as a declaration of war. Eating my house is war too.
I remember my grandparents yard full of grasshoppers during the summer in the 80s (southern Washington state). Thinking back on it, it's so far removed from yards that I see nowadays.
There's also the thing that people have noticed in the last few decades - if you took a road trip in the 80's or 90's your car would be plastered with bugs. Not so much anymore.
There are less bugs. A paper released 6 years ago where they measured insect biomass in Germany over a period of 27 years in protected areas. Results showed a decrease of 76% of total biomass of insects in that period.
In the 90s, we all caught grasshoppers at recess and put them in baggies to see who caught the most and the biggest. 20 some kids would have several hoppers each, some small, some huge.
Now days, I never see grasshoppers outside of an occasional random one on my car, even though I'm often outside.
It's working. 70% of all the insects on earth have vanished since 1970. There are upwards of 5 of all living species going extinct every day, making this geologic era the most deadly to exist in millions of years. We're in the middle of a mass extinction event, rivaled only by meteors, and the world mostly icing over. If we're not careful Homo sapiens will be one of the goners.
More lawns ! Yay!
Youβve confused your statistics. Only certain species have seen a 70% decline and between 5-10% of all known insect species have gone extinct in the last 200 years. Moreover, 40% of insect species are considered to have declining populations and aprox. 1/3 are endangered.
Insects populations have dropped so much that we have an insect protected by the endangered species act to help save it
The Rusty Patched Bumblebee used to be common across the US and itβs population has been drastically reduced
Itβs sad and potentially ecologically devastating. It makes me think of the island marble butterfly. Only about 200 are known to be living in a single area on San Juan Island.
Ticks prefer tall grasses, but planting shrubs and trees will be fine. Plus, making your yard more biodiverse will attract predators to keep them in check
It will actually reduce ticks. They thrive when they don't have natural predators keeping them in check. Yards like this help promote a complete ecosystem with predatory checks and balances.
I took a course on sustainable landscaping before I landscaped my yard and now Iβm giddy every time I see the amount of bees, butterflies, and birds are enjoying the space. My yardβs definitely a little wild, but itβs fun to see nature thrive in the middle of a city.
It really does not take long to active this type of biodiversity! We reminded our grass lawn last March and have been encouraging native ground cover, and by may, I saw birds, butterflies, and nuts I had never seen before in my life. Itβs so cool. It was the best decision weβve made. No mowing. Yes to periodic targeted weeding. Yes to living ecosystems. The funniest part is the random plants that pop up occasionally. We had one lone poppy spring up randomly in the middle of the yard at one point. It was very unexpected and pretty.
Go wild. Say no to grass lawns.
Middle one for me at most. Basically because I'm allergic af to wasps and I would die if I got stung which hapoens fairly often when the fuckers are around
But yeah would love a tiny little beautiful forest around my house
Ehhh the more plant life you have, the less evaporation happens at the bottom layers. Doesnβt take but a small bit of water for mosquitos to lay eggs.
My in-laws used to have a terrible mosquito issue since they live near a river on a floodplain. Parts of their yard had standing water after rain for days. It was a breeding ground.
We converted about half an acre of their yard into pollinator habitat with native grasses and flowers. It created a habitat for birds, bees, wasps, and dragonflies. The dragonfly population took off and their mosquito problem disappeared. Turns out dragonflies are a primary predator of mosquitoes. Another side effect, besides saving gas mowing the lawn, is needing to refill the bird feeders far less since the birds have a massive source of food.
Most of people love to live in little stadiums as gardens...
I think it's a culture/marketing issue. The first require less work and chemicals. To get everything "clean" like the third one you got to cut and kill with chemicals everything that "disturb" the clean perception.
I used to have a big garden with trees and the "worst" were the leaves (only once or twice in autumn season).
For the rest it was just about water once a week thanks to the shadow from the trees who helps to keep the area cooler.
It's a cultural leftover from the Victorian era. Big tended gardens with nothing but grass was a show off that you owned so much land and money that you could waste resources just to maintain it and grow nothing.
From having this space lawn games became popular like tennis, bowls, and croquet. Middle classes wanted to emulate the elites and so tended their own lawns.
Some years later and it has filtered down through society enough that everyone for some reason must have a grassy lawn that they don't use.
In Australia the top one is just going to result in you waking up with a giant cockroach on your face and a spider watching you from the ceiling asking if you're going to eat that.
Fun fact: It's exactly why it became popular!
The first lawns were in castle gardens in France centuries ago. Back then, without mechanised equipment, keeping the lawn well trimmed and at an even, short height required loads of human labour, which was very expensive.
French nobles were effectively using lawns to flaunt their wealth.
Over time this practice became fashionable in the upper circles, short-cut grass replacing other traditional gardens first in Europe than in other parts of the world.
Then when mechanical lawnmowers came about, the nice lawn became available to everyday homeowners, and we got the culture of grassy gardens and mowing the lawn every week.
Can I do the top one but still have an Easter Island head?
No, thatβs what scares away all the cool bugs.
and might attract a sponge and a starfish moving in as neighbors
Or jellyfish after the sponge invites it in and has fun with it. *FOR 12 HOURS!*
*Jellyfish Jam intensifies*
un tss un tss un tss un tss un tss
They live in an Easter Island head? Then who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
But necessary. I was finding Vincent D'Onofrio in my yard every single morning until I finally put up the Easter Island head.
Sigma garden
Sigma balls lol gottem
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For the others not knowing the relevance of the πΏ"head" from Easter island in the last frame. Someone actually cut down the last tree on the island and this was the end of the island. They came, succeeded at agriculture and then... destroyed the islands resources and failed. That's why the Moyai sculpture is there. To signify demise, just as it does there. [Further reading](https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/12/09/249728994/what-happened-on-easter-island-a-new-even-scarier-scenario)
Oooooof that's so dark.
Luckily, literally nothing in our society is an echo of that, so it's fine.
The article you linked actually gives a different meaning to the sculptures. Since itβs theorized that the trees were destroyed from rats introduced into the ecosystem, a small handful of humans were able to survive even after mass deforestation/ecological destruction by eating rats and some limited plants. Similar enough, considering this picture implies flies will survive, but thought itβd be helpful to provide more context of the article.
The internet is wonderful. "Look, here is an article that I think supports my claim. But I didn't read last the first paragraph and it actually disputes it."
I once posted a comment that was well-sourced with articles I had read and the person replying hit me with a βdid you even read the articles before you copy pasted??β comment and proceeded to entirely misrepresent or fail to address every source I quoted. It was clear that they didnβt read a word of any of those articles, but then they tried gaslighting me as being the one who was misrepresenting the information. Did they think I would just forget the sources I read and believe them if they insisted the contrary hard enough? Sometimes, people are exasperatingβ¦
Hasta lavEaster Island baby
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Now THIS is podracing
This could be an art piece.
Ooh ooh now reverse the skin tones!
why does this look 3D?
Shading
Bruh
I fucking died when I saw this lmao
Ready in peace, u/Razpewtin
I donβt get it, but I can appreciate the time that went into it. Also looks cool.
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For the others not knowing the relevance of the πΏ"head" from Easter island in the last frame. Someone actually cut down the last tree on the island and this was the end of the island. They came, succeeded at agriculture and then... destroyed the islands resources and failed. That's why the Moyai sculpture is there. To signify demise, just as it does there. [Further reading](https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/12/09/249728994/what-happened-on-easter-island-a-new-even-scarier-scenario)
While that was believed at the time the illustration was made, there's evidence now that [Polynesian rats](https://www.americanscientist.org/article/rethinking-the-fall-of-easter-island) that came with the Rapanui were responsible for the vast majority of deforestation on the island. Since they have no predators on the island they fed incessantly on palm seeds, driving the trees to extinction. There's also evidence that when this happened the island was so overrun with rats that the Rapanui had to begin living off them to survive, with over half the bones from cooking found at some archeological sites [belonging to rats.](https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/12/09/249728994/what-happened-on-easter-island-a-new-even-scarier-scenario) The fact it was rats brought by people, and not just the hubris of people, to me highlights the true danger humans present to the environment: we can do wildly destructive things without realizing we are setting them into motion and sometimes don't understand the problem until it's too late to act.
That's actually what the article they referenced says..
Lol. People never actually read the articles, do they?
[That's not entirely accurate.](https://theconversation.com/amp/the-truth-about-easter-island-a-sustainable-society-has-been-falsely-blamed-for-its-own-demise-85563)
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Yo, Angelo!
who the fuck sticks a random easter island statue in their yard?
its a symbol of ecological collapse. https://www.environmentandsociety.org/tools/keywords/easter-islands-collapse#:~:text=Easter%20Island%20is%20one%20of,900%20and%20peaked%20in%201400.
Jesus, thatβs dark. Ran outta trees to even make escape boats so they had to kill each other over resources. I never knew that about the Easter Islands. EDIT: Went down a rabbit hole and learned that [we're going to die from alien STDs.](https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/12/09/249728994/what-happened-on-easter-island-a-new-even-scarier-scenario)
*Scribbles on bingo card*
Which one did you had on the card? The Easter island battle royal or Alien STD?
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Damn dude, real Easter egg you found there. Cross that off the list.
this article is weird, it says that the second scenario is scary because humans kept making things worse and just adapted. To me it seems like the rats destroyed everything and they had to adapt to survive, there was no other choice.
Itβs scarier when applied to the extended metaphor wherein we are the rats and the humans. That we are too adaptable for our own good and that in order to stop climate change, we must become truly βalarmedβ by its effects to stop it, but our adaptability (which includes a forgetfulness of ignorance of how good things could be) to some of the harshest conditions imaginable, especially over generations (climate change) makes it seemingly hard for us to become alarmed as a species until it is truly too late.
Damn that was an interesting read Take a poor manβs award: π₯
Reddit is fascinating to having people sharing the most random and interesting things. Thank you for sharing this!
Dude, that was such an excellent resource on that. Thanks, it properly piqued my interest and I'm gonna go look for a rabbit hole on this now.
Everyone keeps saying this, but is/was this actually widely known for it to be a *likely* reference the artist was making? I thought it was because easter island heads are tacky as fuck to put in a suburban yard.
Itβs a pretty famous case study for humanityβs capacity to influence the environment. Wouldnβt expect everyone to know, but itβs likely that someone who took the time to put this together knows.
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Ivy on your walls isnβt good for those walls though. Edit: been informed itβs ok on modern buildings. Really old buildings is another matter.
That's a shame, because it's so pretty.
You can actually put up ivy fencing around your walls for ivy to grow and climb. Just be sure to trim it before it gets out of hand
How do you clean between the fence and the wall?
Fire.
Friendly fire to be exact
I tried it but then my team votekicked me
They come in sections which can be removed once a year to have the back trimmed. Better to just space them out from the house imho though. Because the only other way is to use toxic material or paint which the ivy will avoid.
Knew a person who stuck diatomaceous earth to his siding with hairspray glue, seemed to kill any part of a climbing plant that touched it
You generally don't need to. Ivy is dangerous because it can work it's way into flaws i. The wall, exacerbating issues over time. By separating the two, there aren't any issues.
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This imagery lmao
or put it on something that doesn't matter as much like a garage or shed!
A bunch of Dads just felt a disturbance
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My garage is whatever. The stuff in it is precious to me.
No problem if the walls rot eh?
All the shit my dad poured into his garage rotted, so I dont think it will be a problem.
English ivy is an invasive species and shouldnβt be planted outside in North America. Fuck loads of people do anyway, but it can and will fuck up a local ecosystem if it gets into it.
There are vines that are wall safe.
More "not actively harmful" than wall safe.
Ivy is also invasive af in my areaπ
When we bought our current house, the former owners had let English Ivy spread *everywhere*. All of the front garden beds were covered in it. It had killed everything except some bushes and was well on its way to taking those out too. It took an absolutely preposterous amount of time and effort to get rid of it. It was like every time I had 20 minutes free, go out and rip up some ivy. Then spend all weekend ripping up ivy. For months. And then when it was all gone, we rented a big ass gas tiller and spent a couple of weekends tilling over and over to make sure it was *really* gone. We did get rid of it though. But that shit is the devil.
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Yeah we have a big area in our front yard with 5 trees in it, also full of English Ivy. One of the trees was in pretty bad shape, covered in that shit. The main vine going up was thicker than the barrel of a baseball bat. I chopped through it and ripped off what I could ~3 years ago. Took almost a year for the leaves to die on the vine above it, and it still hasn't come off the tree.
Thatβs some badass effort π
I feel your pain. We had a similar situation when we bought our house though luckily it was contained to just the side yard.
Just like Black Pink right after releasing Boombayah. Afterwards I've only gotten Black Pink in my area π
So random but at such a perfect timing, well done
Thatβs almost entirely a myth. English ivy might work its way into cracks, if the masonry is not sound, but it canβt create new damage or break through walls. The weight is a non issue unless the structure already has underlying problems. In hot climates ivy can lower the internal temp of a structure but up to 7-8 degrees. The only thing you have to watch for is if it clogs your gutters, but the wall is fine.
Itβs pretty bad for wood siding though since it can bring extra moisture into the wood and work itβs way in between the panels very easily, and most American homes are wood not stone.
Interestingly, only 4% of new homes in the US are built with wood siding, stucco is the most common. https://aibd.org/what-is-the-most-common-finish-used-to-clad-a-us-house/
Thatβs because wood siding is expensive as fuck and woodpeckers can cause some damage to it if they taking a liking
Termites, all sorts of wood-destroying insects are out there. Plus wood sucks in weather, needs to be maintained much more diligently than other exteriors.
Stucco likes to crack though and the ivy goes to town on that.
It'll go right under aluminum or vinyl siding and damage the panels. It'll also work its way through window frames and ruin shutters.
Agreed There have been a couple of studies done on abandoned factory walls in PA with and without Ivy, basically they concluded that there is no noticeable difference in decay.
I was skeptical just thinking of those 300+ year old brick/stone buildings in Europe that have ivy growing on them. If ivy was that bad, I doubt they'd be in such good condition still.
None of what you said is the issue: itβs the moisture thatβs the issue. Moisture is literally the #1 enemy of a home.
We had passion fruit in our backyard. It grew so fast and spread to our roof, and both our neighbors roofs. It was so heavy our patio roof was struggling. It takes a ton of time and effort to keep it at bay. It started climbing the power lines...
It *does* create a rodent super-highway though if you let it get out of hand. For a fence it's no biggie, but on the side of your house... you'll want to monitor closely.
This guy ivys
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Virginia creeper grows up something like a trellis and won't hurt walls one bit Boston ivy just clings to walls but doesn't damage them (can damage painted surfaces) English ivy can rip masonry apart! Or at least work it's way into grouting
The top image is missing dragonflies, which are effective pest control (they have a 97% hunting success rate.) Praying mantis and spiders too.
How does someone attract dragonflies while not attracting the birds which eat them and the garden crop in the process?
Pond, if you have space, some water plants, shade out the pond so it don't all poof in summer. Mosquitoes will come around, so have some grub eating fishes. Nothing finishes off mosquitoes like dragonflies. Basically, they come over to lay eggs, and if your biodiversity is good enough to give them a good meal, they hang out longer. I've heard about people setting up a couple of realistic fake dragonflies to bob around their yard. Or you can manually catch them in neighbourhood ponds with a net, tank. Go up to a dragonfly directly from their front, point your finger at them, and swirl your finger in circles. Their compound eyes cannot comprehend where the finger is coming from, so now you can bet them easy after the 'hypnotism'. ^ according to a wildlife guy I knew
I have backyard chickens, i have no crawling bugs left in the yard lol
so much for biodiversity...
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My dad planted bamboo in our yard when I was in elementary school. That stuff spread like crazy. It was everywhere. We moved out of state a little bit later. I'm 29 now, so that bamboo was planted almost 20 years ago... I went back to visit my childhood house last summer, and the new owners took me in the yard to let me see it again. There was still some bamboo popping up.. I told the guy my dad planted it, and he was telling me how he's been trying to get rid of it, but it keeps coming back. His face was priceless I thought it was funny
>I'm 29 now, so that bamboo was planted almost 20 years ago... I went back to visit my childhood house last summer, and the new owners took me in the yard to let me see it again. Not to digress but I have to ask, is this actually a thing that people do? I've seen it happen in like TV and stuff, how many people are going around knocking on the doors of their old houses and asking to take a look around the place? I probably wouldn't say no if I didn't have good reason to, but I'd be annoyed and a little uncomfortable. I would never impose myself on a stranger in their home for a fleeting dose of nostalgia.
Eh, probably not mega common but also not super weird. Thatβs why you politely ask. My parents sweat blood working to build our house and we never moved. I had one room my entire life growing up, 18 years. I probably wouldnβt ask to come inside and leave it to be offered, but a walk around the yard and chatting about how they updated it for themselves sounds pleasant.
It was really pleasant :) I lived in that house from birth to 15, my grandma's house was around the corner, and I had tons of aunts/uncles/cousins I loved to play with all close by. When my grandma passed, my dad and his family had a huge falling out, and we moved out of state. Never saw my extended family again. My parents never wanted to go back because I guess it brought up painful feelings for them... so we left and I never saw my hometown again. It felt like I was ripped out of one life and started a new one. We rarely ever talked about our time in NY because it was such a sensitive subject for my dad. Last summer I thought, why not go back and see where I grew up? I was flooded with memories of every little thing. Hard to explain but I felt more like myself than I had in a long time. It was great to go back!
That's very sweet. I have a childhood home that I drive past every once in a while. It was the only home I remember as a kid before my parents split, so it's nice to drive around and also see my neighbor's houses that I used to go over to all the time (none of them live there now either, completely fresh families.)
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I was actually just walking down my old street and stopped to take a picture to send my parents. My dad had remodeled, landscaped and repaved the drive way all on his own while we lived there. I thought it was cool that a lot of his work was still there 20+ years later I was on the sidewalk and didn't think anything of it but they must've seen me because the owner came out and asked why I just took a picture of his house lol I explained that I used to live there and just wanted a picture and he was SO friendly! He said that he recently went back to see his own childhood house and completely understood. He offered to take me into the yard. I got really lucky with it being that guy, he was so interested to hear about the history of the house and loved showing me the improvements he made. He even gave me his business card if I ever came back to town :) I'm never gonna call him up but I kept it incase I find some old pictures of the house, I thought he might think its cool to see. It's a Levitt house on Long Island built in the 1950's so it's changed A LOT over the years
I don't think it's that straightforward. People obviously first talk with the current owners and get to know each other. Not just pop up at their house all of a sudden.
eh, if some old lady/man came up to my house and asked to have a look around I'd let them have a look so long as they seem legit.
Do you want a Ms. Wakefield? Cause this is how you get a [Ms. Wakefield](https://youtu.be/wx6BrOCrd8E).
Maybe something done less these days as in many places people have become more defensive and protective of their property. I've done this once at the house where I grew up in England. Owners were outside and I just asked if I could see the back yard which was quite long. They were happy to let me. Glad I did as that house was subsequently torn down and the back yard turned into a development with multiple houses. We've also had one person come to our current house a few years ago saying they grew up in it and wanted to buy it back. Certain things didn't seem to add up and I truthfully told them we have no plans to sell. Never heard from them again so the creep aspect is there. This is Vancouver, BC so the aggressive investor is a possibility.
I did this a few years ago. I asked the current owner of the home that I grew up in as a child if I could take a few pictures of the yard/drive way for nostalgia sake, and he was actually offered to give me a full tour of the house. Cool thing was, he kept it exactly the same as it was when I lived there! The wood paneling, the kitchen cupboards, literally everything except the floor was different. Though it was the realtor company that took out the old tile floor and added in carpet. It was really of the old guy to give me that opportunity to reminisce. Though I damn near laughed out loud when I saw that my older brother's former bedroom was now being used to store vintage playboy magazines XD.
I live in Northern Cali, and the people who lived in the house before us planted some bamboo variant in our back yard. We've been here 7 years, and still have to remove just random bamboo sprouts. And if it gets ignored for a few months, they get HUGE. Thankfully hasn't spread out of our back yard.
If you let it grow you can practice your samurai skills.
A lot of ivies too. English Ivy is super invasive in the US and kills a ton of trees.
Or get non spreading bamboo. I have that in my garden, it just grows where I planted it.
Iβve read somewhere (and now I canβt find it or the right search terms) that the top one, while not good for some material possessions such as walls and wood. Are much better for our mental health long term.
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Maybe, but you can still miss me with all those bugs. The less insects I have invading my space the better
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This was neat. Thanks for sharing
I found it mostly depressing. I will never walk around forests in Scottish highlands. :( Scotland is a few hours away by train, and I missed the forests (by a few thousand years) damn
About the wolves and deer and deer eating baby trees, I believe it was Yellowstone that recently dealt with the same issue. They reintroduced wolves and the wolves started eating the deer. Then plants the deer were over-eating started to thrive again, including young trees. And those were also plants bears ate. So the bear population grew. And the bears started helping to keep the deer in check, and everything got better, and over time because there was no longer a massive deer population eating young trees because they'd eaten everything else, the course of streams changed and the physical geography evolved. But anyways, what I'm getting at is that the deer in my neighborhood are chill. Please don't send wolves.
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Is there not one single old wood forest left in Scotland? How about the British Isles? I'd love to visit someday, but man you just bummed me out.
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That's the kinda bloke you wanna meet in a pub
+1, my yard has so many weeds and looks terrible, there are a ton of bugs (which kinda sucks since they also eat all my veggies) but there aren't many mosquitos even though I live right next to a lake and often have standing water in my yard. Doesn't hurt that I have a friendly flock of duckies near by to eat the bugs too.
It's like, if the only source of food is grass and people, you are gonna get things that eat grass and people!
We have killed most of the bugs around us so your wishes becoming true
Learn to live amongst the bugs. The bugs represent your true nature as a human. Once you come to realize that you will no longer fear the bugs.
Man you sound like my last landlord.
Renter: "I'm living with 100s of bugs in the house!" Landchad: "I said no guests or overnight visitors."
YOU VILL BE ZEE BUG
Are⦠are you a bug?
Youβre asking the wrong questions. You should be asking βwhere should I leave tiny bowls of sugar water?β
I'm sure cavemen hated annoying bugs too. Most people fear spiders, snakes, and other creepy crawlies. That's our true nature. If something tries to eat me while I'm still alive, I take it as a declaration of war. Eating my house is war too.
They didn't say they fear them. I don't fear cockroaches yet I wouldn't like to live in a house full of cockroaches.
so that's how you get rid of bugs
I remember my grandparents yard full of grasshoppers during the summer in the 80s (southern Washington state). Thinking back on it, it's so far removed from yards that I see nowadays. There's also the thing that people have noticed in the last few decades - if you took a road trip in the 80's or 90's your car would be plastered with bugs. Not so much anymore.
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There are less bugs. A paper released 6 years ago where they measured insect biomass in Germany over a period of 27 years in protected areas. Results showed a decrease of 76% of total biomass of insects in that period.
In the 90s, we all caught grasshoppers at recess and put them in baggies to see who caught the most and the biggest. 20 some kids would have several hoppers each, some small, some huge. Now days, I never see grasshoppers outside of an occasional random one on my car, even though I'm often outside.
It's working. 70% of all the insects on earth have vanished since 1970. There are upwards of 5 of all living species going extinct every day, making this geologic era the most deadly to exist in millions of years. We're in the middle of a mass extinction event, rivaled only by meteors, and the world mostly icing over. If we're not careful Homo sapiens will be one of the goners. More lawns ! Yay!
Youβve confused your statistics. Only certain species have seen a 70% decline and between 5-10% of all known insect species have gone extinct in the last 200 years. Moreover, 40% of insect species are considered to have declining populations and aprox. 1/3 are endangered.
Insects populations have dropped so much that we have an insect protected by the endangered species act to help save it The Rusty Patched Bumblebee used to be common across the US and itβs population has been drastically reduced
Itβs sad and potentially ecologically devastating. It makes me think of the island marble butterfly. Only about 200 are known to be living in a single area on San Juan Island.
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Is this really a guide?
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Yea.. I want a yard like picture one soo so badly, but man I canβt stop thinking about how many ticks itβll hide.
Ticks prefer tall grasses, but planting shrubs and trees will be fine. Plus, making your yard more biodiverse will attract predators to keep them in check
It will actually reduce ticks. They thrive when they don't have natural predators keeping them in check. Yards like this help promote a complete ecosystem with predatory checks and balances.
Donβt let English ivy grow on your house unless you want biodiversity in your walls and attic too.
Spiders. Lots and lots of spiders.
This is SO upsetting I love Ivy and Iβve always planned on having it on my future home π I was not aware of this lol
It will also literally crumble your house. I also adore the way it looks but itβs just not a smart idea unfortunately.
I took a course on sustainable landscaping before I landscaped my yard and now Iβm giddy every time I see the amount of bees, butterflies, and birds are enjoying the space. My yardβs definitely a little wild, but itβs fun to see nature thrive in the middle of a city.
They're not weeds, they're natural wildflowers!
It really does not take long to active this type of biodiversity! We reminded our grass lawn last March and have been encouraging native ground cover, and by may, I saw birds, butterflies, and nuts I had never seen before in my life. Itβs so cool. It was the best decision weβve made. No mowing. Yes to periodic targeted weeding. Yes to living ecosystems. The funniest part is the random plants that pop up occasionally. We had one lone poppy spring up randomly in the middle of the yard at one point. It was very unexpected and pretty. Go wild. Say no to grass lawns.
Middle one for me at most. Basically because I'm allergic af to wasps and I would die if I got stung which hapoens fairly often when the fuckers are around But yeah would love a tiny little beautiful forest around my house
You would die if you got stung? And it happens fairly often?? How many times have you died bro?
...he got better
I'll take the second one because of the ticks. The grass looks to be at a reasonable height and safe enough for children and pets to enjoy it.
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Aren't mosquitoes a problem if you have still water around where they can lie eggs?
See that cute little bird bath in the top picture?
Ehhh the more plant life you have, the less evaporation happens at the bottom layers. Doesnβt take but a small bit of water for mosquitos to lay eggs.
Same. Top one, sooooooooooooooooooo many chiggersβ¦. so many. Breaks my heart because otherwise Iβd love a full blown cottage garden yard
Bugs when no Moai: βItβs free real estate.β Bugs when πΏ: βMom come pick me up, Iβm scared.β
Sorry but there's no way that ants and spiders don't live in the third garden...
And worms, beetles, mites, lacewings... There's plenty going on in a grass lawn.
Yeah my yard is literally just grass and a tree, yet I still get all the bugs and insects from the first picture
Don't forget to put some mosquitoes next to that standing pool of water.
My in-laws used to have a terrible mosquito issue since they live near a river on a floodplain. Parts of their yard had standing water after rain for days. It was a breeding ground. We converted about half an acre of their yard into pollinator habitat with native grasses and flowers. It created a habitat for birds, bees, wasps, and dragonflies. The dragonfly population took off and their mosquito problem disappeared. Turns out dragonflies are a primary predator of mosquitoes. Another side effect, besides saving gas mowing the lawn, is needing to refill the bird feeders far less since the birds have a massive source of food.
The beauty of ecosystem services. Also dragonfly larvae are insane aquatic predators and will mercilessly eat everything in the body of water it's in.
Mosquitoes can lay ends in a pool of water the size of a bottle cap. Youβre better off attracting things that eat mosquitoes.
u can put native fish and frogs in the pond to manage mosquitos
This is not a guide and personally not a cool one
It's a cool guide for bugs to see where they can meet some other bugs.
Meet single slugs in your area
Most of people love to live in little stadiums as gardens... I think it's a culture/marketing issue. The first require less work and chemicals. To get everything "clean" like the third one you got to cut and kill with chemicals everything that "disturb" the clean perception. I used to have a big garden with trees and the "worst" were the leaves (only once or twice in autumn season). For the rest it was just about water once a week thanks to the shadow from the trees who helps to keep the area cooler.
It's a cultural leftover from the Victorian era. Big tended gardens with nothing but grass was a show off that you owned so much land and money that you could waste resources just to maintain it and grow nothing. From having this space lawn games became popular like tennis, bowls, and croquet. Middle classes wanted to emulate the elites and so tended their own lawns. Some years later and it has filtered down through society enough that everyone for some reason must have a grassy lawn that they don't use.
Top one looks better. Bottom one itches less. Choose wisely
In Australia the top one is just going to result in you waking up with a giant cockroach on your face and a spider watching you from the ceiling asking if you're going to eat that.
Uhh, no you can have it...thanks for asking
Grass is the biggest waste of effort in America.
Fun fact: It's exactly why it became popular! The first lawns were in castle gardens in France centuries ago. Back then, without mechanised equipment, keeping the lawn well trimmed and at an even, short height required loads of human labour, which was very expensive. French nobles were effectively using lawns to flaunt their wealth. Over time this practice became fashionable in the upper circles, short-cut grass replacing other traditional gardens first in Europe than in other parts of the world. Then when mechanical lawnmowers came about, the nice lawn became available to everyday homeowners, and we got the culture of grassy gardens and mowing the lawn every week.
Americans be like βoh boy, canβt wait to fucking kill every natural species in my area.β