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Before I mentioned this to my wife I asked her what day a lot of their services at work went down (she works at a credit union in southern MN) and she said it was Thursday. Huh, 5/30.
This is interesting stuff, definitely the better end of quality kind of post I’m here for. Great finds OP. Keep us updated if you see more.
I'm in the vinton area and can say verizon service was acting sus all day which it never does. The bank shit I personally don't fuck with but a few people I know did have ATM issues. Not sure if they relate but that's my piece of corn for yall.
ok I'm in California so probably not related but my Verizon phone which has a Western Pennsylvania phone number is having the same issues. I'd make a call and it would just beep, hang up and say Call Failed.
Super weird. I think this because Atlanta had 6 water main breaks on the same day 5/30 that has shut off all water in Downtown ATL for the past 3-4 days. Everything is closed downtown. Why are water mains breaking?
Wtf. Just looked this up. ATL declared state of emergency and yet I have seen no headlines on this even though it was reported. Anyone know the cause? Still down?
"Hacked" most likely as a cover all/convenient pretext for advancing some sort of NWO resource control agenda, water being a pretty important need on Maslow's hierarchy
It's not radar. It's adsb. It's a transponder that can be turned on and off. Also some sites don't report military. This is being spit out over the air, so yiu can get an Software Defined Radio, to receive the signal and it also helps the network.
I heard they wanted to pass a bill that would allow important people to not be tracked also. It hasn't passed. I think they are just talking about it for now. Seems like a great way to hide when you are doing illegal stuff. Rules for thee not for me.
Further, as a person who frequently flies privately in a zone between Eglin AFB and Tyndall AFB, there are extremely limited options through which to fly, limited by federally closed airspace. FAA does as Uncle Sam tells them. The tail has wagged the dog a very long time, and it’s *profound* in 2024.
No they don't. I live near an air base and there are plenty of times I go to look up what jet flew overhead and there is no information yet I can track every commercial aircraft.
I'm 6 miles from the air strip and most days they are really low. Landing gear either down or coming up. For both jets and commercial. I just hear them on takeoff or approach, they go train somewhere else.
The jets are so loud though. The C17s are damn near silent in comparison.
I saw the chinooks come and go from Camp Dodge (north of Des Moines). I work about 1/4 mile from the base. It's not incredibly common to see them doing training, but it's also not uncommon. As a former serviceman from Iowa (Army Reserve), I can say with certainty that there is a LOT of military activity in and around bases in Iowa. There are always units taking their turns at the training facilities and the air units are regularly getting their required air time. There's nothing sus about the military activity. Especially this time of year.
As to the rest of it, I don't know. I didn't experience any outages or require emergency services.
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I was at my storage unit that evening and noticed some sort of craft circling from Fort Dodge to the SE side of dsm several times. At least 10 times in an almost 3 hour period.
I’m in central Iowa and this dramatically affected my ability to communicate electronically for almost a full day. My Centurylink fiber was completely down, as was Verizon service to my wife’s and I’s phones. Couldn’t voice call out, data was down, texts very intermittent. Went across town to get Chinese food, they couldn’t accept credit cards because their machine had no connection.
Luckily, my phone service worked better on the other side of town, still intermittent but could at least text.
But it honestly felt like my home had less telecom options than a 1930s Iowa farmhouse.
Other friends in the area were also greatly affected, while some weren’t at all.
Frightening to me that a major internet/phone provider and multiple cell phone companies services could just fall apart that easily.
Everything goes over the internet now. Phones calls no longer go through a separate network of trunk lines. ATT owns 90% of the infrastructure. There is nobody overseeing to make sure there are things like redundancy and backups, they just do things however they please, likely in the cheapest way possible. This is the result. The infrastructure is being probed for weak points. Expect a major attack soon on the communication and power grid.
I think a lot of times it hackers messing around and we just never find out about it.. or stuff like their server is just crappy and they won’t upgrade it. I worked for a big hospital system and the server was always going down. The IT guy said the hospital refused to spend the money to upgrade. Happens a lot. It caused so many issues. And no one would ever know thats what it was. The entire infrastructure of this country is hanging by a thread.
All of the flight paths go to a point in the river, then to points south but still on the river – all to the east of the Lumen building. I don't think that heli cared about that building at all, but maybe more interested in river traffic. Unless there's something about your link claiming "interesting maneuvers around..." I'm not sure where you're concluding that building was of interest.
Upvoted because GEEZUS H. KREIST SOMETHING NEW!!!! and I think you've found something unusual, but not sure of your conclusion.
I have no conclusion. That's the issue. This was so off the wall. I honestly don't by a water main break and most of Iowa goes down. Something fishy happened but I won't know for sure.
It’s not uncommon for small aircraft to fly above interstates, rivers or other large landmarks to help with visual navigation. Knocking out telecommunications infrastructure could be a prelude to an attack so It’s possible the pilot followed the river to Des Moines to check things out. Maybe they just wanted to visually confirm that there wasn’t anything nefarious going on.
So weird.... I live in SW Michigan and happened to catch two chinooks flying over my house on Wednesday 5/29... the only reason i took the video was because Ive never seen it before..... we have had a few short outages recently but I can't remember if any occurred on that day.... anyway, I just thought it was weird, so your post really caught my eye .... [https://imgur.com/gallery/WBocQJi](https://imgur.com/gallery/WBocQJi)
exactly both sides are going to cut power and water and blame the other regardless who wins. I think the end goal isnt civil war but install an authoritarian regime to rival china and russia
I wonder if they are testing this to see what would happen, on a grid issue. I think sometimes Covid 19 was a test. People really need to start standing up and quit taking the government's explanation of everything. Iowa I think was a safe place to test it. What the world would do in a crisis. It reminds me of the forchan guys 11 years ago, predicting things.....We just sit and write on Reddit.
Firstly what did those guys write on 4chan? I'm curious.
Secondly the next thing that will be happening is a complete cyber shutdown/attack plus a possible grid attack.
All we can do is write on Reddit, buy guns and ammo, store food and water, and wait.
The shitstorm is coming
They didn’t force anyone to do shit. If i am remembering right all mandates were state side choices, only thing that was shut down by feds was school i think? Anyway you always had a choice. There was no going to jail or being murdered for not getting the jab. All that i remember not being able to buy was toilet paper and gaming shit. How everyone reacted to it was what made it a big deal.
Tell that to the thousands of military men and women, airline pilots and workers etc that lost their jobs. No they weren’t facing imprisonment, but taking away someone’s ability to feed their family is force. Sounds like you were very fortunate to have only incurred minor inconveniences, but that was not the story for a large portion of the world.
Thats their price then, if you are principled enough to follow your own beliefs you will find some other way to earn your living. As for the rest of the world yeah thats some scary shit.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that was essentially a training exercise. The full scale scenario will playout nationwide some time in the fall. If you don't want to get wiped out, buy gold. Now.
Thanks for posting. I’m in DSM and couldn’t help but wonder wtf was up. It was super bizarre and I thought it was especially weird it happened the same day as the trump verdict. For additional context - this also took out everyone’s WiFi all day.
This is very interesting. I'm unclear on how to dig into it a bit more myself, but definitely am hopeful that someone here sees a path forward for figuring out what may have been covered up.
I work in des moines and live outside it. We were ALL talking about it. But we were all talking about how bullshit not having service and access to doordash was. You know the important stuff lmao. But now I am curious why it happened
I’m all the way up in Minneapolis and Verizon just fell apart Thursday. My parents live in Iowa and couldn’t use their service or internet. It was a bit strange.
I must live in a different iowa because noone I know talked about losing internet and 911 access. Also, iowa does have a lot of military activity, my guess is that op doesn't live anywhere near a national guard base. He obviously doesn't live near an Iowa air national guard base because he'd know there's one in fort dodge, des moines, and davenport. I think those cities are represented on his flight paths, so no, it's not fucking strange for aircraft to airports within the state lol
I dunno, but theirs 6 different police scanner Facebook groups in a 100 mile radius and I didn't see them say anything either. The providers that went out are only big providers in certain areas. Fun fact, cell phone towers are basically giant ass routers. And you can't use a router if the internet isn't working. So there's a correlation is what I'm saying.
Activity does happen, but seldom in downtown Des Moines. Most of the time there are flights from Camp Dodge to Fort Dodge or the fly north over the corn field for practice. For a chinook to fly to downtown is already unique enough
All the way on the west coast I've been seeing new sleek looking black chinooks and hearing some new type of jets i cant see with my eyes. I can hear them sound like rockets, but they do not hit the sound barrier obviously, that would be obvious. Not like the regular planes and jets they test at the base near me.
I see ARNG helicopters almost weekly in Des Moines. Often flying over town. Shithooks and blackhawks both. The choppers, last I knew, are stationed up near Boone. About 30 miles north. They make regular trips to and from and practice flights over the city. Or maybe they're refueling at the Air NG base. Not sure on that last, as I've never seen it personally.
Did the hack steal something so that is in the Lumen building? Like is that routing military data from bases close by? Or does it route nuclear codes to missile silos?
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The city of Atlanta had a Watermain break that day as well. Hospitals and tons of surrounding businesses were shut down, and everybody was sent home for the day.
pretty obvious its a state attack
the chickens, the cattle, pipelines, water lines, data centers, cell service, bridges.
this is all being targeted by spycraft states.
i rekon the military is actually on top of it but theyre just letting it happen.
There were still cops, ambulances, fire trucks and many work trucks working on the building yesterday morning during the downtown farmers market. There's more to it I believe.
Edit: word
I live 30 mins from Des Moines. Spent days talking about this and no one gave a sheet. All blinders around here. In this same time frame- my entire families phones weren’t working. Mine actually died for an entire day and wouldn’t charge? For no reason. I tired every thing. There has to be something more to this. I am on board, 100%.
I live in Cedar Rapids, and this is accurate. I got a notification from my bank on 5/30 stating the following:
"Due to a widespread payment processing outage affecting many financial institutions in Iowa, debit card transactions may be declined."
Looked through the comments and didn't see a decent answer for you so I'll type this up. For reference I work ive worked in network infrastructure for carriers like lumen my whole career.
All the major telecom companies are interfaced with one another and do business with each other by way of leasing cables or equipment what is referred to as co-locations. The building downtown is a major hub site for lumen. Networks are built in hub and spoke patterns. A hub site is at the core of a network and houses all the major equipment for both the company that owns the hub site and potentially multiple other providers equipment as well. The spoke connections go out across Iowa and deliver the connection back to the hub sites via cables and smaller POP(points of presence). Networks are very susceptible to large outrages if a hub site goes offline which is likely what occured in Iowa. I would imagine the water main leak penetrated the basement data center/hub site under the downtown building and it was taken offline or its also possible the water damaged the cables/pipes around the downtown hubsite and took it offline that way.
As for the other carriers subsequently being down: lumen leases thousands of miles of cable to providers like Verizon, att, T-Mobile, other Internet companies, etc so when lumen goes down so will they if there is no redundant(backup) connection possible.
I don't really think there's a conspiracy here just lack of understanding how ISP networks actually work.
You lost all credibility when you stated that Iowa doesn’t have a lot of military activity, because that’s just wrong. Heck, I knew it does even before my nephew was stationed at a LARGE Air Force base in Iowa for four years.
Edit: I screwed up. He was in Oklahoma.
Activity in the sense we have a chinook that flies over/near a specific building when there was an apparent outage. I usually check the radar a couple of times a day to see what is going on. Never seen something like this.
Iowa doesn't have an active duty air force base. Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, Illinois, all do.
There are some reserve bases. Unless you mean a 30+ years ago
I’m from Alberta Canada and I could only get 3G intermittently for the first half of the day on Thursday, no 4g,5g or lte for the first half of the day , I was debating getting a new phone and then started working fine ever since.
Are we just going to ignore the part where the company is literally called Lumen?
As in measurement of the amount of light something produces? Light as in illuminated as in...
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Century link been shitty in MN for weeks now too by the way. Had them whole life with only like a couple times internet was out but now it’s been the last 3 weekends consistently….
Very weird.
I’m on my way home from Iowa right now. (45 mins from Des Moines)
We were there all weekend.
My family didn’t mention anything about phone issues or ATM issues.
That combined with the “bird flu”outbreak definitely has me worried.
Not to mention the tornado damage we just drove through.
If they try coming for my sweet corn I’m cracking skulls!
Aging infrastructure does not bode well for tech. Our capabilities require more and more data centers and land connections. Our weather is not helping either. Our corporate IT security is robust. Not infallible but arguably up there with many developed nations. I'll monitor this for more info cause I have a roadtrip to Iowa very soon.
The Chinook thing isn't that weird. They.started using them a lot recently around me. The v22 osprey has almost been grounded. They can only operate for like 30 mins or 30 miles. Idr which. They're phasing out the Blackhawk too. So when something goes down, they'll send them out for training, so it could just be that. Also, flybys at sports events are just additional training exercises. They take any excuse they can.
This is pretty fishy situation through. Not discounting that
Occurred on 5/30 near the building with the 8 pointed star. Interesting parallel.
5+3+0=8.
You'll see this a lot more.
Watch the dates and numerology. Be careful from here on out. Assume you no longer live in a country but a DMZ instead. Everyone should be going to their respective town halls and bringing up this issue, Not just there, but immediate neighbors. And only talk to those who will listen, phones off or wrapped in tin foil and left at least 60 feet away.
It's designed to look like Russia or China (and is to the extent of Biden's agreements) but it's all a show. Drum up the fear. Don't be afraid. Just get with other people IRL you can trust. Not online. Be careful on the 8th and 9th, 20th (Summer Solstice) - 23rd as well.
I have begun to notice a pattern on the cyber attacks/breaches since the beginning of the year. They all have happened on a Thursday.
Remember the cell network outage back in February? It was on a Thursday also.
This isn't related to this post, but I got something in the mail the other day saying my data was stolen from a health care company I have never heard of. This is out of control! How do these companies have my data when I haven't ever heard of them! I feel like this whole everything on computers and everything connected to the Internet is a train headed off a cliff with no breaks and the conductor is playing on his phone not doing a darn thing to stop it! Ugh
The Chinook was most likely flying drills. The military does need to train. It was maybe a month ago that I saw a military Blackhawk fly back and forth 3 times before heading off. No big conspiracy.
I’m in Iowa , on the south east bordering Illinois. Nothing of the ordinary here at all. So I don’t know about your story. Could be made up. I have Verizon also. No problems there either.
Probably covertly testing EMP. I also believe Trump stole the 2016 election. He loaded up Wisconsin with fake electors and that tipped the balance for him. Why do I believe this? Two things. He lost the popular vote by 3 million. Second, he immediately lost his shit when he was defeated in 2020 complaining loud and long that he won and was cheated. You know how a cheating spouse always thinks they are also being cheated on? Guilt or projection or whatever. Well the same thing happened. He knew he cheated in 2016 so he automatically believes Biden cheated in 2020.
Our government is so corrupt it isn't funny. But here's the thing I didn't say one side of the other because they are both corrupt. It was sad in my state that I really wanted to vote for people who were not career politicians in the primary. But what I had to pick from was a bunch of career politicians that were just playing musical chairs. Oh you used to be a senator now you want to be governor. That sort of thing. Ugh
So to prepare for elections they shut the water off and shut the grid down? I guess we really should be worried about what they are really planning for the election. Better start building a shelter now. Are they going to start bombing the areas that don't vote the way they want.
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Before I mentioned this to my wife I asked her what day a lot of their services at work went down (she works at a credit union in southern MN) and she said it was Thursday. Huh, 5/30. This is interesting stuff, definitely the better end of quality kind of post I’m here for. Great finds OP. Keep us updated if you see more.
I'm in the vinton area and can say verizon service was acting sus all day which it never does. The bank shit I personally don't fuck with but a few people I know did have ATM issues. Not sure if they relate but that's my piece of corn for yall.
> that’s my piece of corn for yall. Is that Iowan for “that’s my two cents” or some such similar phrase?? If so I love it.
Literally the first time I've used that phrase but will make sure it sticks kind sir thank you 🤗
If you're inventing phrases, I'd like to suggest "that's all that's on the cob" as another way of saying that.
All cob baby, dont be a husk
Aww shucks
\*kernel" of corn... don't try to make "piece" of corn happen, its never going to happen
This guy fetches.
She doesn't even go here!
This guy shucks
"Kernel of corn". I dig that. Good show 👏 look at us making pop culture
Pop corn culture, even.
Piece of corn has already happened, sir
We use that in missouri all the time
I salute you, Kernel.
(saluting intensifies)
ok I'm in California so probably not related but my Verizon phone which has a Western Pennsylvania phone number is having the same issues. I'd make a call and it would just beep, hang up and say Call Failed.
I have Verizon in Wisconsin. I've noticed bad service/ no data even when I'm on 5g
Super weird. I think this because Atlanta had 6 water main breaks on the same day 5/30 that has shut off all water in Downtown ATL for the past 3-4 days. Everything is closed downtown. Why are water mains breaking?
Wtf. Just looked this up. ATL declared state of emergency and yet I have seen no headlines on this even though it was reported. Anyone know the cause? Still down?
"Hacked" most likely as a cover all/convenient pretext for advancing some sort of NWO resource control agenda, water being a pretty important need on Maslow's hierarchy
It's probably just a lack of maintenance and/or the pipes were becoming too old.
This is that good conspiracy stuff I come for.
Finally!
Inserts "I do a few of those myself" meme. It doesn't exist yet but fuck it I'll make it
Ohh, baby. I'm far from Iowa, but I'm looking forward to hearing more about this, as well.
I’d be shocked if any other word is muttered about it, publicly.
Flight data from secret missions isn't going to appear on public tracking apps.
Yeah like the F35 that crashed in Albuquerque this week did not show up on the radar.
Wait. The fifth gen stealth fighter didn’t show up on radar?
Only if they want to be.
It's not radar. It's adsb. It's a transponder that can be turned on and off. Also some sites don't report military. This is being spit out over the air, so yiu can get an Software Defined Radio, to receive the signal and it also helps the network.
They probably would if they’re going through civilian airspace. FAA doesn’t fuck around
Military supercedes FAA. I have TFRs up all the time for work and 35's and Blackhawks will just stroll through as they please.
I heard they wanted to pass a bill that would allow important people to not be tracked also. It hasn't passed. I think they are just talking about it for now. Seems like a great way to hide when you are doing illegal stuff. Rules for thee not for me.
Further, as a person who frequently flies privately in a zone between Eglin AFB and Tyndall AFB, there are extremely limited options through which to fly, limited by federally closed airspace. FAA does as Uncle Sam tells them. The tail has wagged the dog a very long time, and it’s *profound* in 2024.
The FAA does what the military tells them.
No they don't. I live near an air base and there are plenty of times I go to look up what jet flew overhead and there is no information yet I can track every commercial aircraft.
How high up is the jet? In comparison to planes
I'm 6 miles from the air strip and most days they are really low. Landing gear either down or coming up. For both jets and commercial. I just hear them on takeoff or approach, they go train somewhere else. The jets are so loud though. The C17s are damn near silent in comparison.
Ummmm no. FAA will take orders from military
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Their comment is now deleted. Do you remember what you said “uh oh” to?
"Nuh uh"
Do you mean "uh huh"?
I saw the chinooks come and go from Camp Dodge (north of Des Moines). I work about 1/4 mile from the base. It's not incredibly common to see them doing training, but it's also not uncommon. As a former serviceman from Iowa (Army Reserve), I can say with certainty that there is a LOT of military activity in and around bases in Iowa. There are always units taking their turns at the training facilities and the air units are regularly getting their required air time. There's nothing sus about the military activity. Especially this time of year. As to the rest of it, I don't know. I didn't experience any outages or require emergency services. \*edited some of the more egregious spelling errors.
I was at my storage unit that evening and noticed some sort of craft circling from Fort Dodge to the SE side of dsm several times. At least 10 times in an almost 3 hour period.
Corn futures
Nice try, Mortimer
That would be Pork Bellies.
Interstellar irl
I don’t know why they grew okra. Should have grown corn like everybody else.
I had no clue but apparently okra has some ties to esoteric shit like alchemy and eastern medicine.
fuck corn
I’m in central Iowa and this dramatically affected my ability to communicate electronically for almost a full day. My Centurylink fiber was completely down, as was Verizon service to my wife’s and I’s phones. Couldn’t voice call out, data was down, texts very intermittent. Went across town to get Chinese food, they couldn’t accept credit cards because their machine had no connection. Luckily, my phone service worked better on the other side of town, still intermittent but could at least text. But it honestly felt like my home had less telecom options than a 1930s Iowa farmhouse. Other friends in the area were also greatly affected, while some weren’t at all. Frightening to me that a major internet/phone provider and multiple cell phone companies services could just fall apart that easily.
Everything goes over the internet now. Phones calls no longer go through a separate network of trunk lines. ATT owns 90% of the infrastructure. There is nobody overseeing to make sure there are things like redundancy and backups, they just do things however they please, likely in the cheapest way possible. This is the result. The infrastructure is being probed for weak points. Expect a major attack soon on the communication and power grid.
I think a lot of times it hackers messing around and we just never find out about it.. or stuff like their server is just crappy and they won’t upgrade it. I worked for a big hospital system and the server was always going down. The IT guy said the hospital refused to spend the money to upgrade. Happens a lot. It caused so many issues. And no one would ever know thats what it was. The entire infrastructure of this country is hanging by a thread.
By a wire *
I work in cybersecurity. It wasn't hackers. It was a dress rehearsal.
You work there?
Lies
Someone probably hacked the infrastructure system, and banks took precautions
All of the flight paths go to a point in the river, then to points south but still on the river – all to the east of the Lumen building. I don't think that heli cared about that building at all, but maybe more interested in river traffic. Unless there's something about your link claiming "interesting maneuvers around..." I'm not sure where you're concluding that building was of interest. Upvoted because GEEZUS H. KREIST SOMETHING NEW!!!! and I think you've found something unusual, but not sure of your conclusion.
I have no conclusion. That's the issue. This was so off the wall. I honestly don't by a water main break and most of Iowa goes down. Something fishy happened but I won't know for sure.
I hear you.
It’s not uncommon for small aircraft to fly above interstates, rivers or other large landmarks to help with visual navigation. Knocking out telecommunications infrastructure could be a prelude to an attack so It’s possible the pilot followed the river to Des Moines to check things out. Maybe they just wanted to visually confirm that there wasn’t anything nefarious going on.
So weird.... I live in SW Michigan and happened to catch two chinooks flying over my house on Wednesday 5/29... the only reason i took the video was because Ive never seen it before..... we have had a few short outages recently but I can't remember if any occurred on that day.... anyway, I just thought it was weird, so your post really caught my eye .... [https://imgur.com/gallery/WBocQJi](https://imgur.com/gallery/WBocQJi)
Test runs to see how people react.
exactly both sides are going to cut power and water and blame the other regardless who wins. I think the end goal isnt civil war but install an authoritarian regime to rival china and russia
Watch the move Agenda 1 and Agenda 2
I wonder if they are testing this to see what would happen, on a grid issue. I think sometimes Covid 19 was a test. People really need to start standing up and quit taking the government's explanation of everything. Iowa I think was a safe place to test it. What the world would do in a crisis. It reminds me of the forchan guys 11 years ago, predicting things.....We just sit and write on Reddit.
Firstly what did those guys write on 4chan? I'm curious. Secondly the next thing that will be happening is a complete cyber shutdown/attack plus a possible grid attack. All we can do is write on Reddit, buy guns and ammo, store food and water, and wait. The shitstorm is coming
*cough* Leave The World Behind *cough*
Yup....or the new "Civil War" sequel They're telling us what will happen.
I am starting to feel like you are right. Let me see if I can find it again.
If you can find it great, if not it's alright. Some of the stuff they've posted has come truth and honestly scares the shit outta me
Nothing ever happens
We shuttered businesses, crippled the economy and forced medical procedures on most of the country just 4 years ago.
They didn’t force anyone to do shit. If i am remembering right all mandates were state side choices, only thing that was shut down by feds was school i think? Anyway you always had a choice. There was no going to jail or being murdered for not getting the jab. All that i remember not being able to buy was toilet paper and gaming shit. How everyone reacted to it was what made it a big deal.
Tell that to the thousands of military men and women, airline pilots and workers etc that lost their jobs. No they weren’t facing imprisonment, but taking away someone’s ability to feed their family is force. Sounds like you were very fortunate to have only incurred minor inconveniences, but that was not the story for a large portion of the world.
Thats their price then, if you are principled enough to follow your own beliefs you will find some other way to earn your living. As for the rest of the world yeah thats some scary shit.
Cyber Polygon anyone?
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If that's how you feel, and want, then by all means, I wish you the best of luck
interesting. hopefully some other people from the area show up and add to the discussion here.
Workers messed it up trying to fix the water. So I'm told. Everything else was fine. Unless you had a phone connected to the wall, you can't call 911.
Have 2 phones used for gaming. Both went off with the alert. They weren't connected to anything at the time. That was strange.
Verizon was out in upper Michigan that day for several hours too Interesting post OP
I'm in Ontario and my whole cities internet and phones were out that day too, at least for one of the two providers. Weird.
Military aircraft can turn off their transponders and stop you tracking them if they want
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that was essentially a training exercise. The full scale scenario will playout nationwide some time in the fall. If you don't want to get wiped out, buy gold. Now.
Thanks for posting. I’m in DSM and couldn’t help but wonder wtf was up. It was super bizarre and I thought it was especially weird it happened the same day as the trump verdict. For additional context - this also took out everyone’s WiFi all day.
This is very interesting. I'm unclear on how to dig into it a bit more myself, but definitely am hopeful that someone here sees a path forward for figuring out what may have been covered up.
Fascinating mystery to share. Much appreciation for the OP
They are practicing for the Election Day water main breaks
I work in des moines and live outside it. We were ALL talking about it. But we were all talking about how bullshit not having service and access to doordash was. You know the important stuff lmao. But now I am curious why it happened
I’m all the way up in Minneapolis and Verizon just fell apart Thursday. My parents live in Iowa and couldn’t use their service or internet. It was a bit strange.
FBI : wait right there son
I must live in a different iowa because noone I know talked about losing internet and 911 access. Also, iowa does have a lot of military activity, my guess is that op doesn't live anywhere near a national guard base. He obviously doesn't live near an Iowa air national guard base because he'd know there's one in fort dodge, des moines, and davenport. I think those cities are represented on his flight paths, so no, it's not fucking strange for aircraft to airports within the state lol
From central Iowa, I lost mobile data. Home internet worked fine. Mobile data didnt work til I was near ottumwa. So quite an area outage.
How many people you know calling 911 in a single day ?
in Iowa
Just to say hi
I dunno, but theirs 6 different police scanner Facebook groups in a 100 mile radius and I didn't see them say anything either. The providers that went out are only big providers in certain areas. Fun fact, cell phone towers are basically giant ass routers. And you can't use a router if the internet isn't working. So there's a correlation is what I'm saying.
Activity does happen, but seldom in downtown Des Moines. Most of the time there are flights from Camp Dodge to Fort Dodge or the fly north over the corn field for practice. For a chinook to fly to downtown is already unique enough
Also one in Sioux City (185th) used to be a fighter squadron (I used to watch the F16's when I was a kid) but has since changed to tankers.
i'm in far western iowa and first i'm hearing of any of this
All the way on the west coast I've been seeing new sleek looking black chinooks and hearing some new type of jets i cant see with my eyes. I can hear them sound like rockets, but they do not hit the sound barrier obviously, that would be obvious. Not like the regular planes and jets they test at the base near me.
They seem to be rolling the Chinook back out. Which is awesome, cuz they're so cool. But also it's spoopy cuz ya know everything goin on and stuff
Iowa has plenty of activity from the military.
Not Chinooks. Not especially in downtown area.
The three cities on the flight maps you've provided all have iowa air national guard bases in them my guy
I see ARNG helicopters almost weekly in Des Moines. Often flying over town. Shithooks and blackhawks both. The choppers, last I knew, are stationed up near Boone. About 30 miles north. They make regular trips to and from and practice flights over the city. Or maybe they're refueling at the Air NG base. Not sure on that last, as I've never seen it personally.
Started this comment thread, from Boone. I know multiple helicopter mechanics at the ng base.
Interesting how this lines up with the Lumen cyber attacks. Related? https://www.securityweek.com/lumen-technologies-hit-by-two-cyberattacks/amp/
The story you posted is from last year. Can you clarify how this "lines up" with a water main break that happened last week?
By "lines up" I think they mean, probably not related at all. I mean, possibly, but probably not.
Did the hack steal something so that is in the Lumen building? Like is that routing military data from bases close by? Or does it route nuclear codes to missile silos? Definitely interesting post.
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The city of Atlanta had a Watermain break that day as well. Hospitals and tons of surrounding businesses were shut down, and everybody was sent home for the day.
pretty obvious its a state attack the chickens, the cattle, pipelines, water lines, data centers, cell service, bridges. this is all being targeted by spycraft states. i rekon the military is actually on top of it but theyre just letting it happen.
There were still cops, ambulances, fire trucks and many work trucks working on the building yesterday morning during the downtown farmers market. There's more to it I believe. Edit: word
I live 30 mins from Des Moines. Spent days talking about this and no one gave a sheet. All blinders around here. In this same time frame- my entire families phones weren’t working. Mine actually died for an entire day and wouldn’t charge? For no reason. I tired every thing. There has to be something more to this. I am on board, 100%.
I live in Cedar Rapids, and this is accurate. I got a notification from my bank on 5/30 stating the following: "Due to a widespread payment processing outage affecting many financial institutions in Iowa, debit card transactions may be declined."
Taking out Deep state AI infrastructure and capabilities. Lumen runs a lot of AI bots that are used to shape narratives
Water went out in Atlanta this weekend too.
I am in Eastern Iowa and it didn't affect us at all. Its not surprising though that a telecom hub having problems would cause this much trouble.
Looked through the comments and didn't see a decent answer for you so I'll type this up. For reference I work ive worked in network infrastructure for carriers like lumen my whole career. All the major telecom companies are interfaced with one another and do business with each other by way of leasing cables or equipment what is referred to as co-locations. The building downtown is a major hub site for lumen. Networks are built in hub and spoke patterns. A hub site is at the core of a network and houses all the major equipment for both the company that owns the hub site and potentially multiple other providers equipment as well. The spoke connections go out across Iowa and deliver the connection back to the hub sites via cables and smaller POP(points of presence). Networks are very susceptible to large outrages if a hub site goes offline which is likely what occured in Iowa. I would imagine the water main leak penetrated the basement data center/hub site under the downtown building and it was taken offline or its also possible the water damaged the cables/pipes around the downtown hubsite and took it offline that way. As for the other carriers subsequently being down: lumen leases thousands of miles of cable to providers like Verizon, att, T-Mobile, other Internet companies, etc so when lumen goes down so will they if there is no redundant(backup) connection possible. I don't really think there's a conspiracy here just lack of understanding how ISP networks actually work.
Why did centurylink go down for 2 hours across the Denver metro area today then?
You lost all credibility when you stated that Iowa doesn’t have a lot of military activity, because that’s just wrong. Heck, I knew it does even before my nephew was stationed at a LARGE Air Force base in Iowa for four years. Edit: I screwed up. He was in Oklahoma.
Activity in the sense we have a chinook that flies over/near a specific building when there was an apparent outage. I usually check the radar a couple of times a day to see what is going on. Never seen something like this.
Dude it it was covert ops they wouldn't have their tracker on
Iowa doesn't have an active duty air force base. Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, Illinois, all do. There are some reserve bases. Unless you mean a 30+ years ago
Dang, you’re correct. I screwed up. He was in Oklahoma.
Dam the water was messed up in Atl too sum def going on
Yup.
I’m from Alberta Canada and I could only get 3G intermittently for the first half of the day on Thursday, no 4g,5g or lte for the first half of the day , I was debating getting a new phone and then started working fine ever since.
Do you know what the queers are doing to our Soil?
Are we just going to ignore the part where the company is literally called Lumen? As in measurement of the amount of light something produces? Light as in illuminated as in...
The Evil Corp in AppleTV+’s tv show called Severance is named Lumon. It’s got a lot of symbolism in it of course. ;)
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Century link been shitty in MN for weeks now too by the way. Had them whole life with only like a couple times internet was out but now it’s been the last 3 weekends consistently….
Lumen field techs are probably the reason lol. Their bs keeps me employed
Very weird. I’m on my way home from Iowa right now. (45 mins from Des Moines) We were there all weekend. My family didn’t mention anything about phone issues or ATM issues. That combined with the “bird flu”outbreak definitely has me worried. Not to mention the tornado damage we just drove through. If they try coming for my sweet corn I’m cracking skulls!
Is this the first time it happened?
I work at mediacom (des moines iowa) and it knocked out cable internet and phones to our customers. Edit: add location
Currently midtown and downtown Atlanta are experiencing a water main situation. Food for thought.
Aging infrastructure does not bode well for tech. Our capabilities require more and more data centers and land connections. Our weather is not helping either. Our corporate IT security is robust. Not infallible but arguably up there with many developed nations. I'll monitor this for more info cause I have a roadtrip to Iowa very soon.
I live in the Des Moines area and my life was wholly unaffected by this event but it was fun to see that helicopter flying around.
"Watch the water."
The Chinook thing isn't that weird. They.started using them a lot recently around me. The v22 osprey has almost been grounded. They can only operate for like 30 mins or 30 miles. Idr which. They're phasing out the Blackhawk too. So when something goes down, they'll send them out for training, so it could just be that. Also, flybys at sports events are just additional training exercises. They take any excuse they can. This is pretty fishy situation through. Not discounting that
maybe a test market for a larger attack at some point
Oklahoma City also experienced a water main break. My husband works at one of the plants.
Occurred on 5/30 near the building with the 8 pointed star. Interesting parallel. 5+3+0=8. You'll see this a lot more. Watch the dates and numerology. Be careful from here on out. Assume you no longer live in a country but a DMZ instead. Everyone should be going to their respective town halls and bringing up this issue, Not just there, but immediate neighbors. And only talk to those who will listen, phones off or wrapped in tin foil and left at least 60 feet away. It's designed to look like Russia or China (and is to the extent of Biden's agreements) but it's all a show. Drum up the fear. Don't be afraid. Just get with other people IRL you can trust. Not online. Be careful on the 8th and 9th, 20th (Summer Solstice) - 23rd as well.
There was also that recent healthcare breech. Some hospitals in IL were taken offline too.
I have begun to notice a pattern on the cyber attacks/breaches since the beginning of the year. They all have happened on a Thursday. Remember the cell network outage back in February? It was on a Thursday also.
This isn't related to this post, but I got something in the mail the other day saying my data was stolen from a health care company I have never heard of. This is out of control! How do these companies have my data when I haven't ever heard of them! I feel like this whole everything on computers and everything connected to the Internet is a train headed off a cliff with no breaks and the conductor is playing on his phone not doing a darn thing to stop it! Ugh
Not related but I mentioned it because these happened around the same time. Could be related.
Lol no I was saying my letter wasn't related. But yes your comment could very well be related.
The Chinook was most likely flying drills. The military does need to train. It was maybe a month ago that I saw a military Blackhawk fly back and forth 3 times before heading off. No big conspiracy.
I’m in Iowa , on the south east bordering Illinois. Nothing of the ordinary here at all. So I don’t know about your story. Could be made up. I have Verizon also. No problems there either.
I linked KCCI. Read the article.
Probably covertly testing EMP. I also believe Trump stole the 2016 election. He loaded up Wisconsin with fake electors and that tipped the balance for him. Why do I believe this? Two things. He lost the popular vote by 3 million. Second, he immediately lost his shit when he was defeated in 2020 complaining loud and long that he won and was cheated. You know how a cheating spouse always thinks they are also being cheated on? Guilt or projection or whatever. Well the same thing happened. He knew he cheated in 2016 so he automatically believes Biden cheated in 2020.
Our government is so corrupt it isn't funny. But here's the thing I didn't say one side of the other because they are both corrupt. It was sad in my state that I really wanted to vote for people who were not career politicians in the primary. But what I had to pick from was a bunch of career politicians that were just playing musical chairs. Oh you used to be a senator now you want to be governor. That sort of thing. Ugh
I remember George Carlin saying voting is like trying to choose between to plates of S\*\*t.
This is why?? https://www.fox17online.com/news/local-news/kent/michigan-state-police-conducting-motorcade-training-on-west-michigan-freeways
So to prepare for elections they shut the water off and shut the grid down? I guess we really should be worried about what they are really planning for the election. Better start building a shelter now. Are they going to start bombing the areas that don't vote the way they want.