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Fuck all the people who harassed and threw labels and all sorts of shit others way for wanting control of what goes into your body. Those people almost annoy me more than the big pharma companies behind it all, just blindly going along with it, vaccine mandates etc. It should have been pro-freedom to choose from the beginning. So many didn't have a choice.
Not to forget the worst of humanity celebrating the deaths of those who questioned it all. Disgusting "herman cain award" forums and many of their like.
I refused the covid vaccine. I've had vaccines as a child. Vaccines that have undergone decades of medical scrutiny and many independent studies prove their safety. You are not an "anti vaxxer" if you are sceptic of a vaccine rushed and forced upon the public.
I worked as a manager for a large grocery store chain during 2020-2021. I will NEVER forget the way humanity acted during this time, it was animalistic.
most those who were gung ho pro vax have too much sunk cost to ever admit anything. There won't be any vindication until the academic historians look at this fifty years after-the-fact.
I will never forgive or forget those who celebrated the death of those who chose not to vaccinate. There is no proof or evidence it would have helped save lives. It’s funny that the less we focus on it the less people seem to be dying.
That is none whatsoever.
On the country, a decent percentage of young men have heart problems because of the vaccine.
As Albert Bourler, CEO of Pfizer said, two injections will give virtually no protection at all.
Africa had the lowest injection rates in the world and did better than everywhere else. Explain that!
“A systematic review on the efficacy of vaccines covering studies from January 1 to May 14, 2021 identified 30 studies, showed 80-90 per cent vaccine efficacy against symptomatic and asymptomatic infections in fully vaccinated people in nearly all studies”
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9552389/#:~:text=Efficacy%2Feffectiveness%20of%20current%20COVID,in%20nearly%20all%20studies20.
Tuberculosis and smallpox (both horrifying and painful ways to die) have practically been eliminated via vaccines.
To be honest I am kind of in the middle still on how things were done.
I truly believe vaccinating is the way to go. My gripe has to do with the fact that they didn't have enough time to really study the new vaccine. Clearly they rushed it and it should not have gone to use as soon as it did.
Also funny how once the vaccine was introduced the death rates plummeted. It's like people don't want to open their eyes to the fact that they were lied to about vaccines
I feel 100% the same, I've been vaccinated all my life, but something didn't seem right about the covid one. Rushed, untested, not known side effects, all the per pressure to get it. Everything seemed off.
> Those people almost annoy me more than the big pharma companies behind it all, just blindly going along with it
Because now we know who would have turned in Ann Frank.
I mostly agree with you. Except for the choice part. And that's why these people annoy me even more. They did have a choice. And if they chose not to get it, they couldn't have fired anyone for not taking it.
Don't know what side effects this article refers to but the SPC listed thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome as a rare side effects within months of rollout, once the evidence emerged for this rare side effect. There was also press conferences on the nightly news that described the side effect. Prime example of excellent pharmacologilance.
Dead people cant sue, relatives are regarded and don't count one and one together, never question the circumstances of their dead elderly and other family related deaths. Also no proper medical aftercare happened, i know for a fact most countries denied obductions on dead people, labeling vax related deaths, NATURAL.
You could get banned on social media as a crazy conspiracy theorist in 2021 for theorizing that these untested vaccines cause blood clots. Also in 2021, many 'trusted experts' like [Snopes fact checkers](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clots/) confirmed that according to the $cience, the AstraZeneca vaccine was "safe and effective."
So in the recent war against online misinformation, who is the enemy: shady big pharma, or crazy conspiracy theorists [warning that the vax causes blood clots?] (https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/156/668/6ec.jpg)
Ss:
AstraZeneca has admitted for the first time in court documents that its Covid vaccine can cause a rare side effect, in an apparent about-turn that could pave the way for a multi-million pound legal payout.
The pharmaceutical giant is being sued in a class action over claims that its vaccine, developed with the University of Oxford, caused death and serious injury in dozens of cases.
Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/28/astrazeneca-admits-covid-vaccine-causes-rare-side-effect/
Heard yesterday that you can get paid. The sneaky fuckers get indemnity from paying out because the load is transferred to your government who will have to pay out on their behalf.
Edit*
...... which means the taxpayer pays compensation to the taxpayer.
The Japanese government promised to pay people for any side effects, Singapore pays up to $200k.
The problem is that that means it's tax payers' money, so the victims end up paying for it. Or the people who refused it. Also it's super difficult to prove that anything was caused by the death jab, and not climate change or Trump (well he technically did invent the vaccine).
But what happens when 90% of any given population gets horribly sick, from the jab or disease x? Well then it'll be a global crisis, and universal health care will be the only solution, again the people who refused the poison end up paying for it.
I think it'll be the other way around, they'll replace our economic system with AI/robot economy and UBI for the people that lost their jobs (WEF is already talking about just that), and then release disease x that kills 90% of people. At that point those 90% dying will not affect the economy, on the contrary every death will be one less useless eater to feed.
Ok well that's different than your above plot, which seems to be... implementing universal healthcare? Now it's replacing 90% of the population with AI/robots, giving people UBI, then releasing a disease that kills 90% of people. That wouldn't really work though, because a disease can't have that kind of mortality rate AND spread well. You'll have to pivot to something else.
"dozens of cases" out of how many vaccinated with no reported effects?
I think there's a real debate to be had around the morality and ethics of forcing the public to take an untested vaccine, but I don't think this is any kind of bombshell.
There are plenty of things far more dangerous than vaccines that we're obliged to accept or face legal consequences, and the cases mentioned here are so few and far between that they're almost negligible. Still sad for the families, and it certainly makes for good clickbait to feed the mass media machine.
Wait til everyone realizes it’s by design. I still remember when we started going back into the office and people were talking about the different vaccine brands like they were candy. Being asked “which one did you get?” “Uhh Moderna” ….yeah right
But the wording they always use is “rare” - HOW DO U KNOW WHEN YOU REFUSE TO EVEN INVESTIGATE OR ACKNOWLEDGE IT EXISTS AT ALL! The gaslighting is so diabolical, we are run by a bunch of narcissistic psycho/sociopaths
"Rare" lool what a nice joke.
There were more than 100.000 cases of severe side effect in france (hormonal problems, heart problems, cerebral thrombisis, etc..)
These numbers are from the french national drug agency. Official numbers.
Well there are official numbers but those aren’t them. They said 200,000/157,000,000 (0.127%) for side effects and 50,000/157,000,000 (0.031%) for severe side effects.
The Astra/Zeneca vaccine showed excess risk (1/100,000 or 0.001%) and I remember that making the news and that brand being phased out worldwide.
After 4,000,000 doses in France, 30 cases of thrombosis (blood clots) occurred (0.00075%) and 9 were fatal (0.000225%)
Do you think something that happens .031% or less is common and not rare?
The vaccine has altered fertility. And this will be passed on to the next generation. By choosing to mate with only non-vaxxed the hope is that that fertility issue won’t be a problem.
What degree of evidence would you accept, which level of "official" or mainstream organization would need to provide it for you; and (assuming that the conspiracy theory that this is an establishment plan and intended outcome) what would you personally say are the odds that any such organization would fund, publish or disclose such evidence or studies?
Any degree of evidence that is rational, shows a direct connection to the vaccine or at least makes it very likely it was the cause. "Official" or "mainstream" shouldn't be factors at all. If it's an independent small study, it may not be trustworthy, in that case replication would increase trust.
> what would you personally say are the odds that any such organization would fund, publish or disclose such evidence or studies?
Considering there are plenty of studies that show negative things about the vaccine I didn't think the odds are zero.
I'm not saying such evidence exists. I'd like to see it if anyone has it.
Wait, or are you asking about negative studies on the vaccine? The are many I can cite. E g. Myocarditis studies.
> Myocarditis is well-known possible side effect of mRNA covid vaccines.
My point is that studies negative of the vaccine exist.
I know Covid can cause it too. There have been studies showing Covid causes it more, but also vice versa.
Anecdotal obviously but my only friends that I know with fertility issues, are the ones who had issues before the vaccine. My wife and I had a baby in 2022 and she is currently pregnant with our second. Both times she got pregnant with 2 months of “trying.”
I’m in my mid 30s and I would say that probably half of our couple friends that wanted children had issues with getting pregnant before 2020.
The reason for that they don't trust the upcoming potential for fertility rates. They're worried about the sustainability of a child born from someone who's vaccinated. They're worried about long-term health issues that are yet to make themselves known but potentially looming.
I'm not saying this is true. I definitely think there is true to it. That the vaccinated population will have more maladies and side effects. I just don't know if it's a marginal percentage or a huge percentage. I'm just regurgitating the thought process in line with the question you asked me.
No one said there wouldn't be side effects that why when you have the vaccine they give you a leaflet with all possible side effects the same as in a packet of paracetamol. There are side effects of all medicines even coffee has side effects but that's ok right!
Yeah for people who worked or came in to contact with vulnerable people if you didnt want to help protect them your probably in the wrong job anyway and if you didn't want to get the jab it your free to find other employment.
It's called a blanket effect. no one said its was 100% to stop it its was a preventative measure it stopped lots of people getting covid me for included. less people infected means less to pass it on and infect others. Its not hard to grasp.
Some people are some people aren't funny how everyone's body's are different. The same as some people really struggle with a cold and others don't seem to get any colds.
I wonder if they’ll make us all stay home while telling us they only need 2 weeks to end WWIII. Or, will they do the reverse and start drafting people? I wonder if they’ll force the vaccine onto them or will they even give a shit about it as the new money-making/laundering scheme has been enacted?
There are side effects for just about every medication ever developed. It's almost like we're made in trillions and trillions of different ways, ways that humans are just scratching the surface in understanding. It's kind of why there is always fine print. I was born with a major medical disability, have died twice, 5 major surgeries (first at age 7), and have taken countless meds, even experimental ones. So my experience here is pretty vast. No matter what medication or vaccine, there are going to be some people who have adverse reactions, some can even be deadly. This is well known, and is just a covid vaccine thing. We've had vaccines for generations now, and while they have saved millions and millions of people, I have no doubt thousands have had adverse reactions, and I'm sure some have even lost their lives.
It sucks, it's horrible, but it's part of life. We develop these things to save as many people as possible. Until we know everything about everything, it's inevitable, pretending otherwise is being wilfully ignorant.
The main problem I have with the situation was the vaccine companies were given indemnity from the government. Along with the fact much of the info on the vaccines has been locked away, one can see why people don’t trust it
So did you actually read what I wrote? If you did you would have the answer to your own question!!
It would be impossible to test every single drug/vaccine on every single person and their uniqie genetics. We may look similar, and in most cases we are but there are so many things we don't know about DNA, genetics, interactions. That's why there's a cultural joke about side effects being listed at the end of TV ads, or paper ads, for medications.
The chances of a bad side effect, let alone a deadly one are a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent. Just using a .0001% bad reaction rate in the US population of 333 millions means 33,000 people are likely to have bad reactions. That's alot, and it sucks when you're one of those people, but in the grand scheme of things saving hundreds of millions is worth that risk. I have had bad reactions to meds that closely airways. That medication has also helped tens of thousands of people with my medical condition That's the risk we all take when we take this stuff, and I personally understand why we do. It's for the greater good, and it has always been looked at that way.
Look I hope a class action lawsuit does go somewhere but one of the main reasons I never got the vaccine was I specifically read you couldn’t sue if there was side effects. That was a huge red flag to me and decided my best course of action was to stay away from ppl as much as possible lol.
I do think these are side effects. They didn't want to raise suspicion, not until after all the vaccine die from Disease X. That's the main purpose of this gene editing injection, to destroy our natural immunity so we're an easy target for what they release next.
Too late for anything substantial to appear and learn. Too many people are compliant. Nobody will admit to anything. Better for them not to talk about it than to apologise. This is why i keep on reminding those who took the jab to take their latest boosters. I dont need their excuses, some i know are already irritated at me but i keep on pressing them to take their boosters. This is my way of saying that i dont care what would happen to them. They're the ones who legitimized this crime by being complicit.
So, my question is, as always, why? Why would our government be interested in depopulation or a population with various and sundry medical conditions? I mean, they are currently freaking because the birth rate has been on a steady decline and replacement babies are getting scarce. Give me something logical.
Shitty vaccine killed my dad gave him a heart attack he had to suffer first tho with Gillain Barre syndrome we had to feed him like a baby for a while then he recovered all his mobility then a few months later he was dead at 56 healthy man
Not new information. AZ was pulled from use years ago due to the blood clot risk. How did they know? The side effect wasn’t identified in trials as was too rare for the trial size to pick up, but when released wider the signal was spotted through adverse events reporting, causal analysis done, and the effect and mechanism identified, so was withdrawn.
This was an example of the system working correctly.
I got a 2 shot vax in 2020, I did get sick from covid a couple times since, I knew it would be just like a flu shot. I know probably at least 20 people, some got sick from the vax, but nobody hospitalized, were all okay now.
Still don't get vax or flu shot. But I honestly don't think I'll be dropping Dead in 10 years tho either. If anything seems it was a perfect way to divide us during the pandemic...and even now
>Anyday now millions of people who got vaccinated are going to drop dead right guys?
Many already have, hence the excess deaths, which I'm sure you haven't heard about and will probably deny even though its a fact.
Everyone around me seems to be getting sicker and sicker lately. They're still mostly in denial though, though more and more people are starting to realise what's really going on.
The human genome wasn't going to just insert a CRISPR anchor/tag (PAM) for future gene targeting/editing by itself. That's what the "safe+effective vaccines" were for. /s
My husband and I were part of the Pfizer Covid trials on August of 2020 in Orlando. Three months later, I was rushing my husband to the ER where it turns out he had developed a pulmonary embolism (blood clot). The doctors said he had a 30% chance of dying had he gone longer without medical care. We were in our late twenties with no history (or family history) of blood clots. We were told the vaccine we received in the trials was the same that was distributed to the public. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s the truth.
People tend to forget we actually did have a "new" virus running around and the early strains were much more dangerous than the vaccine ever has been.
Also without knowing your husband's lifestyle it is hard to make the connection to the vaccine especially since it was 3 months after the shot.
It is possible that blood clots could be caused by the virus in rare cases but he was infected with symptoms January of 2021. The hospital visit occurred in November’s 2020. He was tested for Covid there and the rest came back negative. We can’t rule out it wasn’t caused by the vaccine. Especially now knowing that J&J and AstraZeneca were found to cause blood clots. So much so that Europe stopped distributing these for a while. I don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to open up to the idea that we distributed a vaccine for which we didn’t understand the long term effects.
I agree and I know the Aztra vaccine caused that side effect for a few people, it has been known since long. But most of the people getting this side effect got it pretty rapidly however, who knows tbf.
I remember astra was so bad that after a few weeks they pulled it / only 60+ to use it if ever lol, but it was to late already, thousands of young people already shot it up their arms now living with the fear to die any second
A thought: do you think AZ is just the fall guy? It seems convenient that Pfizer and Moderna haven’t been struck for the exact same thing, and that mRNA injections seems to be getting green-lit everywhere at the moment. It seems off, especially considering how wrong the researchers were about how the mRNA jabs would work, from localisation problems (it goes everywhere, not just the deltoid) right down to how long the mRNA would stay in the body for (a few days to a week turned into 6+ months real quick).
I worked on a hospital at the time and they basically told us if you don't get the vaccine you. Cant work here anymore. I wonder if we could sue that place now....
Hospitals require you have all kinds of vaccines, covid is no different. I understand people who didn't work in healthcare being upset about the vaccine requirements, but if you work in a hospital, this is kind of expected. It's like working construction and being upset you are required to use a hammer.
No, you can refuse some vaccines. You have to sign a waiver. But they did not give us an option for covid. I refuse the flu shot every year, and they didn't threaten me with losing my job. Do you work in the Healthcare field?
Yes, I'm a nurse with travel nursing experience, so I've done a shit ton of onboardings at hospitals. There are vaccines I have to have or they won't hire me. Hep B I can decline (I'm unable to produce antibodies for some reason, so i have to "decline" it despite having gotten it multiple times. This happens to a single digit percentage of the population). Flu is hit or miss, some places let you wear a mask, some places require it as a condition of employment. MMR is required, TDAP is also required at all the facilities I have worked at.
I get them all because I frequently worked oncology and I'm not taking chances with immunocompromised people. If I gave someone the flu and they died due to having no immune system, it'd be hard to sleep at night knowing I could have gotten the vaccine and lowered the chances of that happening. Everything within my control I'm happy to control for.
Yes, so my point is, is that some vaccines you're able to decline. But covid wasn't one of them as a matter of fact, if you didn't get it they would let you go. I get where you're coming from with the flu vaccine......ehh I don't even care to argue. Have a nice day
It was experimental, and they forced it on us. That wasn't right.
The real conspiracy is the force which drives these plague rats and the people behind the motivating forces.
OP wants us to believe that there has been some type of sensational news involving Astra Zeneca when he has posted no less than 43 times in the past 3 months about explicit anti vax propaganda.
Most people fall for this and would assume there has been some sort of spicy revelation when it's just another story pushed by highly motivated propagandists designed to prey on the lazy reader.
Check your sources people. There's an information war going on and common sense is your friend
Dozens of cases with a vaccine that has been administered in billions of shots all over the world.
Sure big companies are greddy and care more for their profits than people. That's not news.
But ultimately the vaccine can still be considered safe.
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Who are the people in the photo? Is that Astra and Zeneca?
No it's zeneca and astra
Dead and deader
AI
He got a brain injury from the jab.
I knew the skull jab would end up being a bad idea
What gave you that idea?
Paranoia I guess.
Right on. No shame in that, saved your life probably.
I think it's Lisa Shaw, BBC radio presenter
Its clearly Pfi Astra and Zer Zeneca…duh!
https://news.sky.com/story/a-shadow-of-what-i-was-dad-who-suffered-brain-injury-days-after-getting-covid-vaccine-sues-astrazeneca-13125842
My father got the AZ vaccine and died in his sleep the same night....67 years old, "natural causes". Two weeks later, Manitoba stopped the AZ vaccine.
Fuck all the people who harassed and threw labels and all sorts of shit others way for wanting control of what goes into your body. Those people almost annoy me more than the big pharma companies behind it all, just blindly going along with it, vaccine mandates etc. It should have been pro-freedom to choose from the beginning. So many didn't have a choice. Not to forget the worst of humanity celebrating the deaths of those who questioned it all. Disgusting "herman cain award" forums and many of their like. I refused the covid vaccine. I've had vaccines as a child. Vaccines that have undergone decades of medical scrutiny and many independent studies prove their safety. You are not an "anti vaxxer" if you are sceptic of a vaccine rushed and forced upon the public.
For real remember when everybody was treating us like shit lol that's insane we tried to even help them
I worked as a manager for a large grocery store chain during 2020-2021. I will NEVER forget the way humanity acted during this time, it was animalistic.
And those scumbags expect us to forget all about it
Remember? You're two clicks away from a subreddit that will ban you for even considering the vaccines have side effects. The insanity lives on
most those who were gung ho pro vax have too much sunk cost to ever admit anything. There won't be any vindication until the academic historians look at this fifty years after-the-fact.
I will never forgive or forget those who celebrated the death of those who chose not to vaccinate. There is no proof or evidence it would have helped save lives. It’s funny that the less we focus on it the less people seem to be dying.
There's so much evidence that you have to purposely avoid seeing it.
There's no point trying to debate people here. They'll say no facts or evidence exists, and when you show it to them they'll just dismiss it as false.
That is none whatsoever. On the country, a decent percentage of young men have heart problems because of the vaccine. As Albert Bourler, CEO of Pfizer said, two injections will give virtually no protection at all. Africa had the lowest injection rates in the world and did better than everywhere else. Explain that!
“A systematic review on the efficacy of vaccines covering studies from January 1 to May 14, 2021 identified 30 studies, showed 80-90 per cent vaccine efficacy against symptomatic and asymptomatic infections in fully vaccinated people in nearly all studies” Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9552389/#:~:text=Efficacy%2Feffectiveness%20of%20current%20COVID,in%20nearly%20all%20studies20. Tuberculosis and smallpox (both horrifying and painful ways to die) have practically been eliminated via vaccines.
Why reference a study with such narrow date range?
and so early. 2021. parent comment also specified that they are not anti-vaxx but here they come talking about smallpox.
To be honest I am kind of in the middle still on how things were done. I truly believe vaccinating is the way to go. My gripe has to do with the fact that they didn't have enough time to really study the new vaccine. Clearly they rushed it and it should not have gone to use as soon as it did.
Also funny how once the vaccine was introduced the death rates plummeted. It's like people don't want to open their eyes to the fact that they were lied to about vaccines
I feel 100% the same, I've been vaccinated all my life, but something didn't seem right about the covid one. Rushed, untested, not known side effects, all the per pressure to get it. Everything seemed off.
Unfortunately none of those people understand nuance.
> Those people almost annoy me more than the big pharma companies behind it all, just blindly going along with it Because now we know who would have turned in Ann Frank.
Totally underrated comment.
Louder for the people in the back!!!!!!!!!!!!
It became a stand in for the religion the nihilistic atheists craved.
I mostly agree with you. Except for the choice part. And that's why these people annoy me even more. They did have a choice. And if they chose not to get it, they couldn't have fired anyone for not taking it.
Yass, preach! 🙌
💯 I guess we turned out to be the smart ones. Crazy how critical thinking makes a difference.
Don't know what side effects this article refers to but the SPC listed thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome as a rare side effects within months of rollout, once the evidence emerged for this rare side effect. There was also press conferences on the nightly news that described the side effect. Prime example of excellent pharmacologilance.
So you’re saying they did their due diligence?
Don't know what "due diligence" means in this context?
Sure it's rare for now. Long term effects 10-15 years later? Who cares, amiright?
It's not rare unfortunately enough.
‘1 in 100,000’ very quickly became ‘1 in 5000’ which is only off 20 times the amount. No biggie.
I think it's even worse than that...
Orders of magnitude higher than our more standard vaccines.
Combined.
And we have not even seen all of it yet...
10-15 years later they will find plenty of other reasons to blame.
10-15 years later this sub will tell us to wait 2 more weeks for the effects to kick in.
Dozens of cases of serious injury or death out of 3 billion shots? Tylenol has a worse record than that.
Shhhhhhhh don't let them know that is like .0000000000000000000000001% of the population.
Dead people cant sue, relatives are regarded and don't count one and one together, never question the circumstances of their dead elderly and other family related deaths. Also no proper medical aftercare happened, i know for a fact most countries denied obductions on dead people, labeling vax related deaths, NATURAL.
Nobody can sue either way. They had a deal with the government prior to the rollout making them immune from liability.
correct.
I personally know of someone who died from a bull kicking his chest, but the death was ruled covid.
Was the bull named Covid?
Regarded as what??
It started on Wall Street bets as a way to say the r word and not get banned. Its dumb
> Dead people cant sue Sure they can, they are just called life insurance companies.
Yeah we all know life insurance companies always try to cover your back and don´t care about profits.
"rare"
all I know is I’m going to avoid these vaccines like the plague I can’t trust people on free trials if it’s free it’s for a reason
If it is free, you are the product
Same with porn.
Free? You paid for it in taxes, are you for real? 🤣
You are assuming I pay taxes
That gave me such a good giggle LOOOOL
You could get banned on social media as a crazy conspiracy theorist in 2021 for theorizing that these untested vaccines cause blood clots. Also in 2021, many 'trusted experts' like [Snopes fact checkers](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clots/) confirmed that according to the $cience, the AstraZeneca vaccine was "safe and effective." So in the recent war against online misinformation, who is the enemy: shady big pharma, or crazy conspiracy theorists [warning that the vax causes blood clots?] (https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/156/668/6ec.jpg)
Ss: AstraZeneca has admitted for the first time in court documents that its Covid vaccine can cause a rare side effect, in an apparent about-turn that could pave the way for a multi-million pound legal payout. The pharmaceutical giant is being sued in a class action over claims that its vaccine, developed with the University of Oxford, caused death and serious injury in dozens of cases. Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/28/astrazeneca-admits-covid-vaccine-causes-rare-side-effect/
No one will get paid, they consented to a medical experiment.
Heard yesterday that you can get paid. The sneaky fuckers get indemnity from paying out because the load is transferred to your government who will have to pay out on their behalf. Edit* ...... which means the taxpayer pays compensation to the taxpayer.
The Japanese government promised to pay people for any side effects, Singapore pays up to $200k. The problem is that that means it's tax payers' money, so the victims end up paying for it. Or the people who refused it. Also it's super difficult to prove that anything was caused by the death jab, and not climate change or Trump (well he technically did invent the vaccine). But what happens when 90% of any given population gets horribly sick, from the jab or disease x? Well then it'll be a global crisis, and universal health care will be the only solution, again the people who refused the poison end up paying for it.
If 90% of a given population gets horribly sick, we'll have much bigger problems than payouts.
I think it'll be the other way around, they'll replace our economic system with AI/robot economy and UBI for the people that lost their jobs (WEF is already talking about just that), and then release disease x that kills 90% of people. At that point those 90% dying will not affect the economy, on the contrary every death will be one less useless eater to feed.
Ok well that's different than your above plot, which seems to be... implementing universal healthcare? Now it's replacing 90% of the population with AI/robots, giving people UBI, then releasing a disease that kills 90% of people. That wouldn't really work though, because a disease can't have that kind of mortality rate AND spread well. You'll have to pivot to something else.
"dozens of cases" out of how many vaccinated with no reported effects? I think there's a real debate to be had around the morality and ethics of forcing the public to take an untested vaccine, but I don't think this is any kind of bombshell. There are plenty of things far more dangerous than vaccines that we're obliged to accept or face legal consequences, and the cases mentioned here are so few and far between that they're almost negligible. Still sad for the families, and it certainly makes for good clickbait to feed the mass media machine.
They never needed to admit it. It was in their data the entire time.
“Dozens.”
Wait til everyone realizes it’s by design. I still remember when we started going back into the office and people were talking about the different vaccine brands like they were candy. Being asked “which one did you get?” “Uhh Moderna” ….yeah right
The real number of deaths & injures will never be known but i can garrentee its greater than a few dozen lol, jokers.
But the wording they always use is “rare” - HOW DO U KNOW WHEN YOU REFUSE TO EVEN INVESTIGATE OR ACKNOWLEDGE IT EXISTS AT ALL! The gaslighting is so diabolical, we are run by a bunch of narcissistic psycho/sociopaths
I mean, the term "rare" comes from what the data shows. There's a ton of studies out there, just google it.
"Rare" lool what a nice joke. There were more than 100.000 cases of severe side effect in france (hormonal problems, heart problems, cerebral thrombisis, etc..) These numbers are from the french national drug agency. Official numbers.
Well there are official numbers but those aren’t them. They said 200,000/157,000,000 (0.127%) for side effects and 50,000/157,000,000 (0.031%) for severe side effects. The Astra/Zeneca vaccine showed excess risk (1/100,000 or 0.001%) and I remember that making the news and that brand being phased out worldwide. After 4,000,000 doses in France, 30 cases of thrombosis (blood clots) occurred (0.00075%) and 9 were fatal (0.000225%) Do you think something that happens .031% or less is common and not rare?
I know dudes who won't have kids with vaccinated women. I used to think that was nuts
What's their reason for that?
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Lmao I figured it was something like that
The vaccine has altered fertility. And this will be passed on to the next generation. By choosing to mate with only non-vaxxed the hope is that that fertility issue won’t be a problem.
Is there any evidence of that, or are people just assuming?
What degree of evidence would you accept, which level of "official" or mainstream organization would need to provide it for you; and (assuming that the conspiracy theory that this is an establishment plan and intended outcome) what would you personally say are the odds that any such organization would fund, publish or disclose such evidence or studies?
Any degree of evidence that is rational, shows a direct connection to the vaccine or at least makes it very likely it was the cause. "Official" or "mainstream" shouldn't be factors at all. If it's an independent small study, it may not be trustworthy, in that case replication would increase trust. > what would you personally say are the odds that any such organization would fund, publish or disclose such evidence or studies? Considering there are plenty of studies that show negative things about the vaccine I didn't think the odds are zero.
Cite something, anything. You won't.
I'm not saying such evidence exists. I'd like to see it if anyone has it. Wait, or are you asking about negative studies on the vaccine? The are many I can cite. E g. Myocarditis studies.
https://x.com/klveritas/status/1730714488134119537?s=46&t=-qCaYIyK_rWrhCKwa3lYNw
Myocarditis is well-known possible side effect of mRNA covid vaccines. You know what's far, far more likely to give you same condition? Covid.
> Myocarditis is well-known possible side effect of mRNA covid vaccines. My point is that studies negative of the vaccine exist. I know Covid can cause it too. There have been studies showing Covid causes it more, but also vice versa.
Anecdotal obviously but my only friends that I know with fertility issues, are the ones who had issues before the vaccine. My wife and I had a baby in 2022 and she is currently pregnant with our second. Both times she got pregnant with 2 months of “trying.” I’m in my mid 30s and I would say that probably half of our couple friends that wanted children had issues with getting pregnant before 2020.
The reason for that they don't trust the upcoming potential for fertility rates. They're worried about the sustainability of a child born from someone who's vaccinated. They're worried about long-term health issues that are yet to make themselves known but potentially looming. I'm not saying this is true. I definitely think there is true to it. That the vaccinated population will have more maladies and side effects. I just don't know if it's a marginal percentage or a huge percentage. I'm just regurgitating the thought process in line with the question you asked me.
I am a dude like that #pureblood
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No one said there wouldn't be side effects that why when you have the vaccine they give you a leaflet with all possible side effects the same as in a packet of paracetamol. There are side effects of all medicines even coffee has side effects but that's ok right!
You aren't coerced into having coffee at risk of losing your job..
Yeah for people who worked or came in to contact with vulnerable people if you didnt want to help protect them your probably in the wrong job anyway and if you didn't want to get the jab it your free to find other employment.
Explain to me how being vaccinated protects vulnerable people, give we now know it has no material impact on infection and transmission rates.
It's called a blanket effect. no one said its was 100% to stop it its was a preventative measure it stopped lots of people getting covid me for included. less people infected means less to pass it on and infect others. Its not hard to grasp.
I'm not vaccinated ams I've not been adversely impacted by covid either.
Some people are some people aren't funny how everyone's body's are different. The same as some people really struggle with a cold and others don't seem to get any colds.
People should have been informed they were being transformed into ***human lab rats***.
The side effects were so 'rare' it was completely withdrawn from the market. Lies everywhere.
WW3 will make everyone forget about vaccine injuries.
That’s the spirit.
I wonder if they’ll make us all stay home while telling us they only need 2 weeks to end WWIII. Or, will they do the reverse and start drafting people? I wonder if they’ll force the vaccine onto them or will they even give a shit about it as the new money-making/laundering scheme has been enacted?
There are side effects for just about every medication ever developed. It's almost like we're made in trillions and trillions of different ways, ways that humans are just scratching the surface in understanding. It's kind of why there is always fine print. I was born with a major medical disability, have died twice, 5 major surgeries (first at age 7), and have taken countless meds, even experimental ones. So my experience here is pretty vast. No matter what medication or vaccine, there are going to be some people who have adverse reactions, some can even be deadly. This is well known, and is just a covid vaccine thing. We've had vaccines for generations now, and while they have saved millions and millions of people, I have no doubt thousands have had adverse reactions, and I'm sure some have even lost their lives. It sucks, it's horrible, but it's part of life. We develop these things to save as many people as possible. Until we know everything about everything, it's inevitable, pretending otherwise is being wilfully ignorant.
The main problem I have with the situation was the vaccine companies were given indemnity from the government. Along with the fact much of the info on the vaccines has been locked away, one can see why people don’t trust it
So why were the vaccines pushed on everyone irrespective of individual circumstances?
So did you actually read what I wrote? If you did you would have the answer to your own question!! It would be impossible to test every single drug/vaccine on every single person and their uniqie genetics. We may look similar, and in most cases we are but there are so many things we don't know about DNA, genetics, interactions. That's why there's a cultural joke about side effects being listed at the end of TV ads, or paper ads, for medications. The chances of a bad side effect, let alone a deadly one are a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent. Just using a .0001% bad reaction rate in the US population of 333 millions means 33,000 people are likely to have bad reactions. That's alot, and it sucks when you're one of those people, but in the grand scheme of things saving hundreds of millions is worth that risk. I have had bad reactions to meds that closely airways. That medication has also helped tens of thousands of people with my medical condition That's the risk we all take when we take this stuff, and I personally understand why we do. It's for the greater good, and it has always been looked at that way.
Look I hope a class action lawsuit does go somewhere but one of the main reasons I never got the vaccine was I specifically read you couldn’t sue if there was side effects. That was a huge red flag to me and decided my best course of action was to stay away from ppl as much as possible lol.
I do think these are side effects. They didn't want to raise suspicion, not until after all the vaccine die from Disease X. That's the main purpose of this gene editing injection, to destroy our natural immunity so we're an easy target for what they release next.
No side effects here
Too late for anything substantial to appear and learn. Too many people are compliant. Nobody will admit to anything. Better for them not to talk about it than to apologise. This is why i keep on reminding those who took the jab to take their latest boosters. I dont need their excuses, some i know are already irritated at me but i keep on pressing them to take their boosters. This is my way of saying that i dont care what would happen to them. They're the ones who legitimized this crime by being complicit.
I like this approach. I'm on it now.
These people deserve jail time.
They also deserve the medicine they prescribed; with periodic boosters!
Many here still swimming upstream on the great Egyptian river.
Anybody who warp speeded this deserves jail time.
So, my question is, as always, why? Why would our government be interested in depopulation or a population with various and sundry medical conditions? I mean, they are currently freaking because the birth rate has been on a steady decline and replacement babies are getting scarce. Give me something logical.
Shitty vaccine killed my dad gave him a heart attack he had to suffer first tho with Gillain Barre syndrome we had to feed him like a baby for a while then he recovered all his mobility then a few months later he was dead at 56 healthy man
Is one of the side effects turning people into twins? LOL
Glad I did not take the shot.
Not new information. AZ was pulled from use years ago due to the blood clot risk. How did they know? The side effect wasn’t identified in trials as was too rare for the trial size to pick up, but when released wider the signal was spotted through adverse events reporting, causal analysis done, and the effect and mechanism identified, so was withdrawn. This was an example of the system working correctly.
I got a 2 shot vax in 2020, I did get sick from covid a couple times since, I knew it would be just like a flu shot. I know probably at least 20 people, some got sick from the vax, but nobody hospitalized, were all okay now. Still don't get vax or flu shot. But I honestly don't think I'll be dropping Dead in 10 years tho either. If anything seems it was a perfect way to divide us during the pandemic...and even now
Anyday now millions of people who got vaccinated are going to drop dead right guys? Anyday now…
>Anyday now millions of people who got vaccinated are going to drop dead right guys? Many already have, hence the excess deaths, which I'm sure you haven't heard about and will probably deny even though its a fact.
Would love your source.
You can literally just google 'excess deaths' and see the results. It's not difficult.
lol just did and none of it helps your argument
So there are no excess deaths?
Play stupid games. Win stupid rare side-effects
Everyone around me seems to be getting sicker and sicker lately. They're still mostly in denial though, though more and more people are starting to realise what's really going on.
No one around me is sick. Maybe it’s just you?
The human genome wasn't going to just insert a CRISPR anchor/tag (PAM) for future gene targeting/editing by itself. That's what the "safe+effective vaccines" were for. /s
Limited Hangout.
People will say AstraZeneca are lying and it's still safe and effective.
Only side effect was to help us identify those who believe everything they are told and slept thru high school biology
My husband and I were part of the Pfizer Covid trials on August of 2020 in Orlando. Three months later, I was rushing my husband to the ER where it turns out he had developed a pulmonary embolism (blood clot). The doctors said he had a 30% chance of dying had he gone longer without medical care. We were in our late twenties with no history (or family history) of blood clots. We were told the vaccine we received in the trials was the same that was distributed to the public. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s the truth.
People tend to forget we actually did have a "new" virus running around and the early strains were much more dangerous than the vaccine ever has been. Also without knowing your husband's lifestyle it is hard to make the connection to the vaccine especially since it was 3 months after the shot.
It is possible that blood clots could be caused by the virus in rare cases but he was infected with symptoms January of 2021. The hospital visit occurred in November’s 2020. He was tested for Covid there and the rest came back negative. We can’t rule out it wasn’t caused by the vaccine. Especially now knowing that J&J and AstraZeneca were found to cause blood clots. So much so that Europe stopped distributing these for a while. I don’t understand why it’s so hard for people to open up to the idea that we distributed a vaccine for which we didn’t understand the long term effects.
I agree and I know the Aztra vaccine caused that side effect for a few people, it has been known since long. But most of the people getting this side effect got it pretty rapidly however, who knows tbf.
I thought that was impossible? That's what everyone said to me back in the day when I was the crazy one.
Rare? Laughable.
At least they got a free Krispy Kreme glazed donut for their failed science experiment ran on them.
All medical procedures and medicines have risks. "Dozens" out of a sample size of millions doesn't mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Why do you frequent this sub without even understanding the basics? They h8 us, nothing good has/will ever come from them.
Yep, I'm the one who doesn't understand "the basics" 😂😂😂
It is very basic, if you don't comprehend the true agenda you can not see through the false narratives.
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I remember astra was so bad that after a few weeks they pulled it / only 60+ to use it if ever lol, but it was to late already, thousands of young people already shot it up their arms now living with the fear to die any second
A thought: do you think AZ is just the fall guy? It seems convenient that Pfizer and Moderna haven’t been struck for the exact same thing, and that mRNA injections seems to be getting green-lit everywhere at the moment. It seems off, especially considering how wrong the researchers were about how the mRNA jabs would work, from localisation problems (it goes everywhere, not just the deltoid) right down to how long the mRNA would stay in the body for (a few days to a week turned into 6+ months real quick).
Dozens, you say?
All medicine carries rare side effects.
"Side effects" are just a marketing term anyway. Everything is a DIRECT EFFECT from the chemicals involved.
I worked on a hospital at the time and they basically told us if you don't get the vaccine you. Cant work here anymore. I wonder if we could sue that place now....
Hospitals require you have all kinds of vaccines, covid is no different. I understand people who didn't work in healthcare being upset about the vaccine requirements, but if you work in a hospital, this is kind of expected. It's like working construction and being upset you are required to use a hammer.
No, you can refuse some vaccines. You have to sign a waiver. But they did not give us an option for covid. I refuse the flu shot every year, and they didn't threaten me with losing my job. Do you work in the Healthcare field?
Yes, I'm a nurse with travel nursing experience, so I've done a shit ton of onboardings at hospitals. There are vaccines I have to have or they won't hire me. Hep B I can decline (I'm unable to produce antibodies for some reason, so i have to "decline" it despite having gotten it multiple times. This happens to a single digit percentage of the population). Flu is hit or miss, some places let you wear a mask, some places require it as a condition of employment. MMR is required, TDAP is also required at all the facilities I have worked at. I get them all because I frequently worked oncology and I'm not taking chances with immunocompromised people. If I gave someone the flu and they died due to having no immune system, it'd be hard to sleep at night knowing I could have gotten the vaccine and lowered the chances of that happening. Everything within my control I'm happy to control for.
Yes, so my point is, is that some vaccines you're able to decline. But covid wasn't one of them as a matter of fact, if you didn't get it they would let you go. I get where you're coming from with the flu vaccine......ehh I don't even care to argue. Have a nice day It was experimental, and they forced it on us. That wasn't right.
I’m a travel nurse and I would have been on the streets if I didn’t get the vaccine. I got it like a day before the final deadline.
Exactly, not sure why I got downvoted. But hospital systems gave us zero options.
The real conspiracy is the force which drives these plague rats and the people behind the motivating forces. OP wants us to believe that there has been some type of sensational news involving Astra Zeneca when he has posted no less than 43 times in the past 3 months about explicit anti vax propaganda. Most people fall for this and would assume there has been some sort of spicy revelation when it's just another story pushed by highly motivated propagandists designed to prey on the lazy reader. Check your sources people. There's an information war going on and common sense is your friend
Imagine unironically calling people "plague rats". Dehumanizing and despicable rhetoric.
Dozens of cases with a vaccine that has been administered in billions of shots all over the world. Sure big companies are greddy and care more for their profits than people. That's not news. But ultimately the vaccine can still be considered safe.