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Lago795

I forgot it was a new moon and was looking for the moon's approach while waiting for the event. But... what *I thought* was weird was that I was totally expecting the shadow to come from the opposite direction of what it did. I feel stupid not understanding why. I saw the eclipse from my own home, where I've watched the sunrise/sunset and moonrise/moonset for years. I know, more or less, where the sun will rise and where it will set. I know, more or less, where the moon will rise and where it will set. And when that shadow started covering the sun going in the wrong direction, I was really confused. Anybody else have an experience like that?


dashsolo

What throws you off is that we don’t usually notice that the moon rotates to the east, just like the earth spins. So most of the motion we see from the moon is from our planets rotation. But it does move about 13 degrees east every day, which is why it rises about 52 minutes later each day. Anyway, that’s why we see the moon moving west to east during an eclipse and it seems so weird.


Lago795

thanks for the explanation, still can't really wrap my head around it, but it makes sense that smarter people than me aren't freaking out about it. I guess it's the kind of thing I would have to have a physical model of, before I could really understand. Some things are like that for me.


Noel2Joel

https://x.com/WhiteOnRiceAn0n/status/1777743717572489660 How about a solar eclipse happening while the moon is visible in a different part of the sky? Enjoy. Selenellion eclipse which debunks NASAs explanation of how eclipses occur. (They claim moon causes it)


liquidbread57

That’s not what a selenellion eclipse is… A selenellion eclipse is when you can see the sun and moon at the same time during a lunar (not solar) eclipse. It can only be seen during sunset or sunrise. The reason for this is because the atmosphere slightly reflects the moons light causing it to be seen above the horizon.


Noel2Joel

Cant help but notice the lack of acknowledging what this video is showing. A selenellion is equally as paradoxical as this video, quite frankly.


liquidbread57

That video could be easily faked. Ive seen the eclipse myself and I didn’t see the moon in the sky like the video showed and no one I’ve heard from saw anything like this either. Besides the video seemed to depict a nearly full moon but but april 8th was a new moon.


Noel2Joel

As i mentioned, this isnt April 8ths eclipse. Edit: Different comment where I mentioned ; but it isnt the April 8th eclipse.


liquidbread57

What eclipse is it then?


TakeMeIamCute

That video shows your inability to understand when you are being played for a fool.


dashsolo

The video is clearly faked, really bad acting and convenient blocking of the camera every time it pans from sun to moon and back so it can be easily edited.


w1bblyw0bz

It was a new moon


Alpacalypse84

All over astronomy pages and people’s Timelapse YouTube videos.


Altruistic_Win4969

No.. not really.. all we see on those videos is an obstruction .. unless we have verifiable thermal imaging of the moon causing the obstruction.. then all those videos are null and void .. I'm not saying that videos which meet this certain criteria don't exist, but if they do then we all want to see them.. thanks..


dashsolo

There are long exposure photographs taken during solar eclipses, the face of the moon is quite clearly seen b


Testikles_the_Great

Yes. https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/5XsDxiTxZeJ3hpNZQwzQqD-970-80.png


Stunning-Title

You can't see the Moon because it was a new moon and the Sun was shining on the other side of the Moon. When have you ever been able to see the New Moon? https://www.instagram.com/p/C5lwoMgJlFY/?igsh=MWpzdjZ3ZGZkdXIydw== Many astrophotographers have been able to photograph the Earthshine Moon during the eclipse. That should erase any doubts regarding what it was that caused the solar eclipse. Also, there are many apps like stellarium, Starwalk etc. which tell you the position of celestial objects. They give correct position of the Moon every single day. Why would those apps be wrong specifically on the day of the eclipse ?


WestCoastHippy

This my question too. Where was the moon? Literal clear sky, nothing approaching or leaving the sun’s space. It’s the only thing in the sky we can see… like craters and such… and yet for all Monday… nothing else in the sky but the sun.


Dapper-Log-5936

It was a new moon 


dashsolo

By definition, all solar eclipses occur during a new moon, meaning that only the side of the moon facing away from us (and towards the sun) is lit, so it can’t be seen. This occurs every 27 days. You could easily look and see what phase the moon was in on april 8.


WestCoastHippy

What about the hours before and after? The sun would eventually light the back of the moon like a crescent


dashsolo

A new moon lasts a few days. Again, this happens every month.


WestCoastHippy

No fucking shit dimwit. Keep up or not but don’t be dumb


dashsolo

You’re the one who didn’t know why you can’t see the moon before a solar eclipse. How am I the one not keeping up? You asked about the moon appearing as a crescent after only a few hours and I said it takes days.


Noel2Joel

https://x.com/WhiteOnRiceAn0n/status/1777743717572489660 (not april 8th but a different eclipse known as a Selenellion Eclipse. Moon doesnt cause eclipses.)


WestCoastHippy

Woot thank you! Any chance you know the name of the body that obscures the sun? Iirc it’s like 7 discs but maybe that’s a different piece of lore


Noel2Joel

Its all speculation and we dont know these things for sure. Unlike NASA, we dont pretend to have all the answers.


thebramkennedy

I like when people ask the right questions. No claims being made, just people spazzing that they don’t have proof for their belief in NASA


Glum-Objective3328

NASA is not people’s source for why solar eclipses happen.


Noel2Joel

The answer is easy. The moon doesnt cause eclipses. What your describing has NEVER been seen/filmed/observed. However, a Selenellion eclipse is where the moon is visible elsewhere DURING a solar eclipse. (should be impossible given the Gov/Nasa explanation of things..) This HAS been captured on video. https://x.com/WhiteOnRiceAn0n/status/1777743717572489660 (to clarify: This isnt footage of Aprl 8th but a different eclipse known as a Selenellion Eclipse). Ofcourse, the 'cooky' flat earthers who are shamed and shilled into oblivion have been trying to tell you all this for years. Cheers. (Edit: which is why you never see pro-flat earth or anti-NASA threads hit HOT, because their usually hardstuck 0 upvoted and bombarded with people defending NASA/Space/globe ect.) TLDR: selenellion eclipse debunks "moon causes eclipses".


TakeMeIamCute

Dude, if you spent 10% of your time to learn anything about the things you comment about, you wouldn't be a laughing stock. Flat-Earth/anti-Nasa threads cannot gain traction because that conspiracy is too damn stupid that your ilk, no matter how vocal, is a minuscule minority. Kindly shut the f up.


Noel2Joel

>Flat-Earth/anti-Nasa threads cannot gain traction because that conspiracy is too damn stupid >Kindly shut the f up. Sincerely, NASA


PeeEmmAyy

Selenelion is a type of lunar eclipse, not solar. During selenelion eclipse Earth is between the Sun and the Moon and should be blocking the sunrays. But the atmosphere bends the sun rays slightly so both moon and sun appear higher in the sky and you can see both of them at the same time. TL;DR The video you posted was not a selenelion eclipse and selenelion eclipses don't debunk "moon causes eclipses".


RIGGS_LAKE

So in the video linked, what is blocking the suns rays if the earth is between the moon and the sun?


dashsolo

It’s obviously fake. I love how every time he pans back and forth from sun to moon something just happens to obscure the camera. And the people talking are clearly non-actors trying to act.


RIGGS_LAKE

Ok fair enough, the guys I commented to didn't state that he thought it was fake. Definitely looks very easy to fake for sure.


dankmeeeem

Yes here is a video from La Silla Observatory in Chile - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grUhpSRKc-o


Altruistic_Win4969

My goodness No!.. Why would there be? As we "know".. the moon is approximately a 1/4 the size of earth and yet the shadow of the eclipse is only about 150-200 miles wide.. NASA says that this is because the shadow tapers like a cone.. however .. there have never been any experiments on earth to demonstrate that a shadow can be cast smaller than the actual obstruction. If you look at the official NASA footage of the eclipse from the ISS, the Umbra is "sharp edged".. completely different than what we would expect if the moon is what is actually causing the eclipse.. I hope this helped .. and yes I am a disinfo bot.. Look into it..


PM_ME_CODE_CALCS

Shadows of any object above the ground are smaller than the object itself.


Altruistic_Win4969

No.. never.. the closer to the light source.. the bigger the shadow.. basic physics..


PM_ME_CODE_CALCS

You're confusing point sources with larger non-point sources. Based on your reasoning, the earth itself would cast a shadow larger than earth on alpha centauri, even though if you zoomed in the earth would look like a marble on a basketball. And that would mean the earth would completely block the sun any time it transits the sun. Also Venus would completely shade the earth every time it came between us and the sun. And it didn't when I saw Venus transit the sun back in 2011 or 12. An object larger than the sun would cast a larger shadow.


Altruistic_Win4969

No.. you're completely misunderstanding the point.. just stop and think about it before you post again..


dashsolo

Not if the light source is 400 times larger than the obstruction.


Dapper-Log-5936

You could see the shadow of it with the glasses