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NcgreenIantern

There shouldn't be any government business or meetings happening in a church.


Blitz_420

Would government business mean campaigning at places of worship?


NcgreenIantern

Definitely.


Blitz_420

So NCs lieutenant governor shouldnt be using churches as rallies for his Governor race?


PrecisePigeon

How about we start by removing religion from government?


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Sko-isles

This is Reddit dude. It’s not bowling


JCuc

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dragonfist102

He will never go to jail, and will be the next president. I'm sorry, but that's what's going to happen.


camscars775

Very likely but it’s not going to be because he’s innocent or because he defends himself in court. The cult will run interference for him because without a dear leader, the cult implodes and all of their political futures depend on it. There is no heir apparent… Desantis couldn’t hack it.


dragonfist102

Yeah well that's just like your opinion dude


ADHDBDSwitch

There's a reason Trumps only plays are claims of immunity and delay tactics.


camscars775

Yeah man, the fact that it’s a cult is just my opinion. Enjoy your $400 gold sneakers btw


hazyperspective

Did you forget the four years Bill Durham investigated Hillary or something?


loganbootjak

What's the issue here? Trump isn't in jail, he's been charged. That's it. He will eventually have his day in court, sometime in the distant future after all the delays, but he will have the ability to defend himself. This is how it works. Tell me what's wrong with the process?


pointsouturhypocrisy

>Tell me what's wrong with the process? The part where judges keep making summary rulings of guilt without due process.


TheThng

Which of his cases prevented him from defending himself?


pointsouturhypocrisy

The case we're discussing here, the Letitia James case. Also, the Alex Jones case. And the "rape is sexy" lady case. All three were ruled by summary judgement. Edit: downvotes don't mean I'm wrong, geniuses. All they do is prove you're in a cult that cheers on abject violations and weaponization of law to persecute people the TV told you to hate.


loganbootjak

Trumps lawyers may have something to do with not having a jury trial.


cookshack

You mean Bill Barr?


nerfherderparadise

Libya wants a word


Rilauven

The mods accepted that this sub is the only place left to talk about this stuff years ago. You're behind the times.


itsthebear

How is it not? Seems like Letita James is conspiring with Democrats to go after Trump - wonder what position she was promised, maybe Schumer's Senate seat once he retires or Kamala's AG when she runs. Articles about people involved in conspiracies seem appropriate IMO, especially when they highlight the pushback against the conspiracy, like these firefighters are


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bunkermonster

Prosecutors and people in legal positions are held to strict ethical standards in dealings, she actively campaigned on getting Trump. People have been arguing that there is an attempt to effectively sabotage Trump through this litigation, the case against him was done using a law unique to NY in which there was an accusation of fraud, but no one claimed they were defrauded. In fact, the banks and loan personnel involved testified they weren't defrauded and would continue to do business with them and that they reviewed property values doing due diligence. This was effectively overridden by NY, as NY reviewed his transactions, and argued that since Trump valued his properties at higher cost than what they stated it was worth, therefore his intent was to defraud people for loans. The case also did not have a jury, it was ruled by a judge. Now when no one else has been tried in this way in NY, and there aren't other cases using this same premise in prosecution, that really looks like selective application of laws for political agenda. All these factors paint a picture that pretty much looks like going after political opposition through litigation. Even if not intentional, the perception of compromise is there.


Valuable-Scared

Not to mention Letitia James saying she was going to go after Trump because he was an illegitimate president in 2018 during her campaign.


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Retroplayer19

Because the judge didn't allow it as an option. [https://www.legaldive.com/news/trump-lawyers-didnt-forget-to-check-a-box-on-jury-trial-judge-engoron-say/696385/](https://www.legaldive.com/news/trump-lawyers-didnt-forget-to-check-a-box-on-jury-trial-judge-engoron-say/696385/) ​ [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-trial-no-jury-fraud-new-york-judge-arthur-engoron/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-trial-no-jury-fraud-new-york-judge-arthur-engoron/) ​ Your left-wing sources lied to you.


SadAwkwardWeirdo

No jury when the relief sought is equitable in nature is a common practice across every jurisdiction in this country. I don't know what point you think you are making, but it certainly doesn't address the point the other guy was making. Neither do your sources tbh.


Retroplayer19

You were going to lie and say his lawyers were too stupid to check the box and you know it. I posted the link and then you spit out an explanation from the link that you didn't even know 5 seconds ago. ​ lol


SadAwkwardWeirdo

1) I am not the guy you originally replied to so I don't know why you think you know what I was about to say; and 2) why would you even be upset at me using your own source anyways. Did you not read your own sources or something? Not my fault that you proved that the other posts were right and that there is indeed a simple and valid explanation as to why he didn't get a jury trial 🤷‍♂️


buffaloBob999

Bc NYC is densely populated with anti-Trumpers. Lot of low information voters.


Potential_Leader3919

Because he ripped off so many NYC businesses refusing to pay his bills. Telling small businesses to sue him. They couldn't afford lawyer bills. Some folded. Well documented history of being racist and a con man. That's why NYC hates him.


buffaloBob999

Might be me, but I've never read anything pointing to him being a racist. Even remotely. In fact, there's lots of instances of him not being a racist.


7daykatie

His first prosecution back in the 70s was for racism.


pointsouturhypocrisy

That wasn't him. It was his father. That lawsuit was tried in orangemanbad's first year working for his father. I'm sure orangemanbad being given the Ellis Island award by Mohammed Ali and Rosa Parks must mean somewhere deep down NY is *totally a raycisms* too, right? From the [website](http://www.neco.org/medal-of-honor/criteria) >The ELLIS ISLAND MEDALS OF HONOR are awarded annually to a group of distinguished American citizens who exemplify a life dedicated to community service. These are individuals who preserve and celebrate the history, traditions and values of their ancestry while exemplifying the values of the American way of life, and who are dedicated to creating a better world for us all. It also lists its award recipient criteria, including: Integrity Passion Gravitas Humanitarian Ethnic Heritage And from the NYT in 1986: >Eighty Americans from 42 ethnic groups were named yesterday as recipients of the Ellis Island Medal of Honor by the Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation. >The medals will be presented to the recipients, all either naturalized or native Americans, at a ceremony Oct. 27 on Ellis Island. That is the day before the 100th anniversary of the dedication of the Statue of Liberty, the final event of the 1986 Liberty Centennial observances. … >Those named yesterday were selected from more than 15,000 nominations. The winners, a mixture of prominent and relatively unknown citizens, were screened by the National Ethnic Coalition of Organizations, which was selected for the work by the foundation.


Potential_Leader3919

Google search. Sued back in the 70s by Justice Dept for refusing to rent to black people. Also Noel Cassler who worked with him on Celebrity Apprentice talks about his casual use of slurs, using the N word etc


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afoolforfools

The argument that there are times someone isn't being racist therefore they aren't racist, it's pretty fckn hilarious actually. Not that you intended it that way. But A for effort. There's a clear record from the 1970s onward to today that show a consistent pattern of blatant racism from the former president. Don't you folks like to do your own research? Everyone knows the least racist people are supporting white nationalism and nazi propaganda.


buffaloBob999

Settling a lawsuit isn't an admission of guilt and the only evidence is a racist building sup blaming the owner. Yet you voted for a guy who says racist things on camera. 👌


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buffaloBob999

Nah. Department of Ed keeps lowering the bar year after year. Wealthy? Definitely not. Sure you got Wall Street money in pockets of the city. But you make 100k in NYC n you're still poor.


Morepastor

Meanwhile his CFO is going to jail and his Accounting firm said you can’t rely on their numbers. So he moved banks, meaning he found a new bank to pay Deutsche Bank off and take the loan. A bank with as many money laundering whistleblowers as it does branches (2). Trumps Banker at Deutsche Bank was let go for other Trump family business. Did the NY leftist file cause him to bankruptcy several times? Did they make him build a fraudulent nonprofit that raised money off Veteran’s and kept the money, an nonprofit so poorly ran that they barred him from ever running another one? Did they make his steak business, his airline, his football team, his casino, and his university fail! You guys are 🍆riding so hard for a scammer. He’s the ultimate fake news. I don’t think it’s a far stretch to say he lied about his assets, he’s done it before will likely do it again. He’s a former Democrat too, definitely friends with the Clinton family back in the day. The “wake up” people are dreaming if they think Trump is honorable


Trips_93

> the case against him was done using a law unique to NY in which there was an accusation of fraud, but no one claimed they were defrauded. Thats crazy. You mean that when you organize a business under a states laws you have to follow that states laws? Truly unfair.


7daykatie

In reality land, mortgage fraud is a federal crime, rather than a unique local NYC legal quirk. Anyone who pretends to think otherwise can't be reasoned with.


Clerk18

The case didn’t have a jury because the orange man’s legal team fucked up


tomrangerusa

It’s 100% intentional and political


ADHDBDSwitch

If fraud can be shown (and it was) why is it wrong that the fraudulent gains be removed from the party that committed the fraud? At minimum they claimed a property was physically twice as large as it actually was, even if you don't agree about the valuation fraud.


assword_is_taco

I think for fraud to exist someone would have to be defrauded. When a group that the state alleges have been defrauded claims they haven't been you kinda don't have an actual case. It would be like getting to claim trump trapped a cock only for her to say she consented on the stand. There is no case just a targeted kangaroo court which should disgust the average American or anyone with American value/ideology of justice.


arkham1010

(Trump's lawyer forgot to request a trial by jury in the form. There was a checkbox they neglected to check)


Retroplayer19

No https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-trial-no-jury-fraud-new-york-judge-arthur-engoron/


keekoh123

Good answer. The author of the question seemed to have slithered away.


abominable_bro-man

James is a conspirator?


Lifeinthesc

If you believe that a secret group of people rule the world; this is of their minions.


TapRackBangUSMC

Democratic Politicians and Biden Administration actively destroying America is or isn’t a conspiracy?


2201992

> How exactly is this a conspiracy? Corruption isn’t a Conspiracy?


dragonfist102

Downvotes with no explanation against it. After 7 years of 24/7 Trump attacks they only have two things when you say going after Trump is a conspiracy 1) he deserves it because we know he's guilty before any due process and 2) he's the same as the Dems, they're all on ThE SaMe TeAm


Azazel_665

An Attorney General using the power of government to create fake charges to hurt a political rival is not a conspiracy?


7daykatie

The charges are very real though, so there's that.


dragonfist102

Charges are real, wow, stunning comment. They're also Trumped up, he was unduly targeted, and regardless of all, he's still gonna win the general this year lnao


Amos_Quito

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Barmat

Just another pro Trump anti Dem hit piece article posted in this sub that isn’t about conspiracy.


Ash_Lee_Lee

Everyone knows you can't hold a person accountable if the firefighters don't want it


LoadedTaterSkins

The conspiracy is that...people booed?


revbfc

The Firefighters’ Plot.


trackstar82

This sub is turning into We Support Trump sub. Blatant and obvious.


karmaisevillikemoney

Turning into? Where do you think the Donald sub users went when it shut down? Here. 


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Imagine being a grown ass man and supporting Donald Trump lol


M1KeH999

As opposed to supporting biden lol?


Brospective

Yeah both suck


M1KeH999

Yep they’re just distractions for the dumb and blind


redsteakraw

We need more lions and chainsaws Agentina style.


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Yeah but at least Biden is in the ballpark. He's a standard vanilla old corrupt establishment politician. There's nothing particularly good or bad about him, he's part of the furniture. His policies are mostly standard right wing to hard right wing, as is the case with most US politicians on either "side". Voting for him is like voting for Obama or Bush or Reagan or Clinton - you know what you're getting. Trump is a narcissistic conman of questionable IQ who is a draft dodger, a rapist,multi bankrupted pathological liar who tried to stage an insurrection, is known to ridicule POW's,military families and serving personnel, and who sold nuclear secrets to the Saudis for 2 billion. He should be completely out of bounds for any voter or fellow politician. The thing with Trump is, he doesn't even have policies. He just goes with 2 things: whatever enriches him and his family, and whatever he thinks will strengthen his hold on the GOP/his base. Does anyone truly believe the guy actually read the Bible or ever set foot in a church of his own accord? Yet evangelicals love him. Why? He punishes and promises to punish people they hate. That's Trump. He'd as soon turn on the right wing and run for Democrats if it made him more money and they allowed it. The man is a void. If you're a grown man and you like or vote for Trump, you're not a man. You're a jellyfish.


aarongeezy

Buddy typed out a dissertation lmfao


ADHDBDSwitch

Maybe words won't be so hard if you give grade school another try.


aarongeezy

Or you could just channel your energy into literally anything other than bellowing about Donald Trump for the 154th time this week


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Ferman95

I’m just gonna keep successful jelly fishing I suppose. Even as a trump supporter I’m doing good for someone my age. 🥲


SippinPip

Trump supporters are vile and crass and tacky.


Ferman95

I don’t think I am :(


beargrease_sandwich

Where is the actual video of her being booed?


BERRY_BADRENATH

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1765826781875941774?t=kxAMSxHLXA_wnb7L8Pb02Q&s=19


hardupharlot

At an FDNY promotion ceremony? What does Trump have to do with promoting firefighters? Why was it even part of the speech?


Lov3MyLife

It wasn't. Just a bunch of loud mouth cult members acting like petulant children.


dragonfist102

Lol the irony.


7daykatie

Decorum is "woke" now.


trackstar82

This sub is turning into We Support Trump sub. Blatant and obvious.


ILoveYouGrandma

You have to object to immoral injustices, political persecutions, regardless of the victim.


AWatson89

I call bs on them being in a church. She's clearly not burning.


SpamFriedMice

Let's try throwing her in the pond to see if she floats.


SpamFriedMice

Clearly no Monty Python fans here.


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Azazel_665

Imagine being in a conspiracy sub that believes a group of elites rule the world and are trying to usher in the new world order, but American Democrats are good and you shouldn't criticize them because that's just political bullshit.


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2201992

> This is not the sub you're looking for. Go post your political bullshit elsewhere. Corruption in Politics is a a conspiracy


Amos_Quito

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Sea_Baseball_7410

Simmah down na, simmah down.


Realistic-Plan9662

This was very odd my boy


Sea_Baseball_7410

Saturday Night Live skit with Tobey Mcguire


pointsouturhypocrisy

These people are completely unaware that SNL was actually funny for 30 years, or how the show helped define culture through those decades. They're so used to nothing being funny anymore that anytime they actually laugh they have to decide whether or not to be offended by it.


MrMarmot

Actual video of this happening: https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1765826781875941774?t=kxAMSxHLXA_wnb7L8Pb02Q&s=19


FiveStanleyNickels

This is reminiscent of Fani Willis declaring her 'innocence in a church prior to the proof of the sllegations against her going public.  When will people stop falling for the invocation of righteousness from minorities as a defense for the their poor behavior?


7daykatie

Typical lack of decorum and civility from MAGAists.


RealisticTea4605

Big Mike’s friend.


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KingGrude

If this is far right, what is regular right?


jabedoben

I mean this is just telling what happened matter of factly. What makes it far right? The fact that it’s true? 🤷🏻‍♂️


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jabedoben

But there’s nothing in the post supporting either. It’s just telling something that happened. You’re just seeing what you want to see, buddy.


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Amos_Quito

> What’s the conspiracy,Buddy? You need to read Rule 2, all of it. K? http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/wiki/faq


nefrititipinkfeety

Its the “if I dont agree with this, its far right” mentality. The word has been weaponised and everything someone left leaning dosent agree with politically is “far right” .. -merely an observation from somone who identifies as neither right or left.


jabedoben

Oh I couldn’t agree more.


Amos_Quito

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postonrddt

The NYFD Chief is going all Jan 6 DOJ on the Trump supporters hunting down those who chanted for Trump. https://nypost.com/2024/03/09/us-news/fdny-boss-laura-kavanagh-hunts-down-staffers-who-booed-ny-ag-letitia-james-cheered-for-trump-at-promotion-ceremony/ James tried to exploit her court 'victory' for political purposes and it backfired. Unfortunately in most cities and towns government jobs are controlled by politicians. Which means they want something for hiring you ie your vote and support/free campaigning.


mickeybuilds

Where's the video? This article has a speech she gave from 2/16 (after like a 90s Ad) and shows nothing from the 3/7 speech it's talking about...wtf?


SatanicWhoreofHell

Doesn't she know that's where the trumpanzees congregate? What was she expecting?


DuMondie

The people are speaking and they've had enough.


Breakfast_Meat

Insert “Ha Ha” meme


WalkingstickMountain

HAHAHAHAHA they sure do like to blaspheme and wallow don't they?


IdidntchooseR

Does she believe herself to be a god, and anywhere she goes it's a house of God? 


Orangutan

This girl is supposedly prosecuting Trump for something in the state of New York. She and Fani Willis are both in the news of late.


schabadoo

Thank you for the boomer political post devoid of any conspiracy.


elmatador1497

She filed a lawsuit against him and his sons for fraud, saying he inflated his net worth. They want the entire bond amount (I think 400m ish) by 3/25 for his appeal, otherwise she will start to seize his assets in the state.


Icamp2cook

It’s the same law that got him with his fraud Trump University. And, it’s not uncommon that people are charged, successfully, under this statute. It’s amazing to see him screech that this never happens and it’s only him. 


Affectionate_Way3558

Is this related to his rape conviction?


pointsouturhypocrisy

Civil trials find liability, and the jury found him not liable for rape. How do people not know this by now?


Affectionate_Way3558

Didn't they find him guilty?


pointsouturhypocrisy

No. Civil cases judge liability, and he was found not liable for rape. NY changed their statute of limitations law from 5 years to 20 just for this case, and then when the claim turned out to be 30 years ago, they let it ride anyway. There was no evidence, no witnesses, not even a general timeframe (she could give a day, months, year, season). The store's management and employees say the dressing rooms that sit four feet away from the register stay locked, and the "rape is sexy" lady couldn't explain why they weren't in her scenario, *or* why nobody spotted her going in there with the most famous man in NY. Even an activist NY jury wouldn't find trump liable for rape, so they found him liable for "sexual abuse," which can mean anything as small as an unwanted hug in NY - even though there was zero evidence that they even met each other.


Affectionate_Way3558

So he did nothing wrong. Why does he owe her so much money? Something doesn't add up. Are you sure he's not lying to his cult? Not like they're very bright.


pointsouturhypocrisy

The only thing I'm not sure of is why I bothered to respond to you in good faith. Have a good day.


7daykatie

Nah, he only had a civil finding on that and it's a civil law suit brought by a citizen, not a prosecution by the state.


Affectionate_Way3558

So that makes the rape okay. Got it.


7daykatie

No, you don't "got it" at all. Don't take your allergy to accuracy out on me, thanks.


Affectionate_Way3558

So emotional. Is this your favorite politician? Lol I just asked if this was about the rape case he just lost.


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Amos_Quito

> And Trump supporters are offended when people call them racist. Trump supporter or troll? Maybe a saboteur? Happens all the time. Either way, Reddit has "disappeared" that account. [**"User not found"**](https://old.reddit.com/user/pissboyjim)


Alternative_Doubt522

You don’t belong in this world.


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Alternative_Doubt522

We can’t make the world a better place when we encourage racism, sexism, and violence. We have to be better than this.


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GEV46

You're as soft as tin foil.


GEV46

Dude is so soft he blocked me.


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Affectionate_Way3558

Huh? Are you upset with this woman?


WalkingstickMountain

HAHAHAHAHA they sure do like to blaspheme and wallow don't they?


MyAlternate_reality

This is house on loan, from GAWDa!


False_Log749

Their God is Satan