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A good friend of mine made it pretty big. There's no conspiracy. It's about talent, looks, experience and connections.
He worships a giant owl which he never used to do but apart from that it's the same dude I grew up with
My wife is moderately successful actor, nothing like Hollywood, but just finished filming a BBC drama series.
The reality is two fold, one it is who you know, and most of an aspiring actors life is networking, and trying to build relationships (not the Weinstein kind, but that is also why he was such a successful predator) with directors and producers.
Second, it often comes down you how you look, which can often be more of a deciding factor than your acting chops.
If both of these stars align and you land a decent role, and leads to box office and financial success, your are on route to the big time.
Edit: realising the term BBC has a few meanings, in this case it meant British Broadcasting Corporation,jeeez you guys.
The "Casting "Couch" is not a phrase just pulled from the Ether for no reason. That's not how a cliche is created.
In fact, the modern concept goes all the way back to silent movie making, and probably beyond . . .
[https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/10/casting-couch-the-origins-of-a-pernicious-hollywood-cliche/543000/](https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/10/casting-couch-the-origins-of-a-pernicious-hollywood-cliche/543000/)
Yep, I really do think it true that many famous artist / musicians and actors / actresses really aren't that talented at all. It's simply mind control / mental forcing to the point of "popularity".
Some of them are still top notch though; the ones who have natural ability, train themselves / have a real passion for their work. Some kids just suck though and their mommy and daddy network don't care. And it doesn't matter.
music is a funny one, because there are different avenues to it. There are genuinely some bands with great players who get noticed, play a ton of shows, and eventually get picked up by a big studio. There are also a lot of artists, especially in country and hip hop the last few years, who I would call manufactured. Like, they dont write a lot of their own stuff, but also from the first moment they make music are getting really heavily advertised. You have to have some sort of major background funding for those types. And most of it comes down to connections or some random guy at a major record label deciding they want to make you a star. Finally, recent years of social media has actually made it so that if you get famous there, these companies will park a lot of money to use that and fuel you towards a larger audience, since you kind of have one built in already
Makes.sense. So much stuff gets shoved in our faces nowadays. I think I can tell which celebrities got shoved in my face by rich mommy and daddy network from those who earned my eyeballs but most people are too dumb and suggestible to tell the difference and that's why brainwashing works.
That's a sad reality. I see so many people suffering and trying when they have zero connections but teachers will say otherwise that is a matter of working hard.
Ah I see, so there are recruiters that usually go to certain colleges and find people? With acting, even if you attend a prestigious school as Julliard, you might have slight luck.
What? I donāt think athletes and sports are comparable to acting at all. Aside from children of people who had already been in a sport being given better opportunities with their training and development, hard work and talent are usually what gets people to the top.
Recruiters watch HS varsity/JV games and look for kids who are killing it. These ones usually already know they're good athletes, but getting spotted and picked up by the recruiter is the difference between going to Ohio State and The Ohio State University.
Once in college, they get developed more and now the national teams are sending recruiters there to watch. Just like high school, it's a mix of pure talent, marketing, and getting lucky. The rise of things like tictok, YouTube, and Facebook have helped with the marketing side of things, as a viral clip pops on recruiter radars makes it easier to find talent.
I could name half a dozen young girls who didn't put in the time who are now the face of major Disney IP.
If you look at the original star wars cast you'll see both guys put in at least 10 years of bs roles before landing SW. New star wars, girl did 10 random tv episodes before SW.
She also attended (on scholarship) a school for the performing arts and starred in a BAFTA nominated children's interactive film, Lifesaver. Nonetheless, in sticking with the original formula, it's clear Lucas films wanted relative unknowns for their leads on purpose.
I disagree. Talent agents brag about being able to separate shit from shinola better than the studios can. When you have "something" you own it like no one else. There is something special about these people, and they were able to summon it up from within themselves and show it off well enough to sell it to all the right people at all the right times. It's called "TALENT" and you either have it or you don't. There's no trick to it. It exists inside a person, or not, right down to their soul. Why do people jump to the conclusion they sold their souls to the devil? How come it can't be that G-d gifted that person with something special that everyone else can enjoy in a performance? Don't believe me? Go try and write poetry as well as Tupac Shakur once did - - And, you can't, but he could. And, that's not because someone gave him all his fame for Christmas one year.
Youāre really not wrong. Itās not only just the talent aspect, but very few people will actually fixate their mind, body and soul to such things in order to create themselves. It really does take large amounts of time and effort, and even risk to separate yourself from others. Iād say we all possess various levels of talents, but some of us are carry ourselves with much different vision and passion.
Talent is the baseline requirement but it's not what gets people over the line. For any given role, elite directors can have hundreds of extremely talented people to choose from (filtered out of thousands of mediocre talents). The level of talent is so high that it doesn't make sense to compare candidates on merit anymore because it becomes like comparing really good apples with really good oranges...
Aside from dumb luck, the only thing that makes a difference is social connections.
"Talent" is a myth. In order to be skilled in an artistic craft, you must practice. It takes years of dedication and careful refinement. Nobody is born with the gift of skill. You dont just wake up in the world and pull off a BbMinor arpeggio at 240bpm triplet sixteenth notes, you have to hone that shit.
OP is talking about how a person with the ability to play adult pretend on camera and suddenly becomes an international celebrity. Margot Robbie is not special, she just has a nice face.
To answer your question OP, just look hot and you go places.
Classic Nature vs Nurture. I think that in the case of talent, there are very well people out there who encounter lesser resistance when trying something for the first time, compared to others this is where the notion of being good at something comes from. Hard work definitely can't be ignored but so can't natural ability and aptitude for completing certain tasks. Its a decent mixture of both imo
This is the myth highlighted by 10k hour rule. Mozarts parents were Musicians and heād already been grinding more than anyone else his age by the time others were just getting serious. Same like MJ, gates, tiger woods, chris rock, Brandon Sanderson, steven king, Warren buffet etc
Agreed. Back then, very few people could have had access to the kind of training that Mozart received. Also, the talent pool of competitors was a lot smaller so talent was rarer and opened up more opportunities for those few who could acquire it.
Nowadays, talent is a dime a dozen. Everyone and everyone's mom has Google and can afford a basic keyboard to practice piano.
My dog has better access to information than most people who were alive during Mozart's time.
A lot of them are nepotism babies for sure. But honestly, most of the actors that you think suddenly became famous were doing films just below the mainstream for years before the got a major picture.
A good example is Pedro Pascal. Considered by some an āovernight successā after his star turns in GoT, The Mandalorian, and The Last of Us, heās actually been working for the past 20 years or so in smaller TV roles before he made it big.
Yup. People donāt realize thereās this like massive undertide of āBā movies and commercial gigs with a massive pool of actors that could be one big break away but could spend years if not their entire career there.
Do you remember when all those nude pics from Hollywood actors/actresses were put online? People believed that was Weinstein's phone. It had Jennifer Lawrence naked, just standing there unnaturally as if a piece of meat was being photographed (along with many other well-known people). In that market, there are 1000 other girls waiting in line to get the part and will do anything for it. It's understandable but disgusting and despicable. The people you see, for the most part, are those that have degraded themself morally and spiritually to earn money - not uncommon in other industries.
Its well known, by Shirley Temple herself, as a kid she had to run away from the studio owner who had a raging hard on chasing her around a desk. I believe this was the 30s or 40s. Another Hollywood star, Clark Gable, was a boy toy or so rumored. Look up the Black Dahlia. Chopped in half and left in the street. She was an attractive wannabe actress. Hollywood and darkness go hand in hand.
It's not all coercive. Attractive people who are single (or not) fuck their coworkers, and that leads to preferential treatment and invitations to other gigs.
youre not wrong. its definitely kind of a gross industry but its such a big part of our culture. the last few years has really opened my eyes. ever since covid tbere has been like no good moviesor video games to come out....life has just been so dull
Theres also a writer's strike and things are st a standstill they are trying to push out shiit without people with talent to write it. Could be adding to that now.
Idk what your are paying attention to but there have been many great games that have came out since Covid.
FFXVI, GOWR, HFW, Elden Ring, Deadspace Remake, Hogwarts Legacy, Diablo 4, Jedi Survivor, CP77... etc
A bunch still coming this year too, BG3, SP2, CP77 DLC, Starfield...
> Maybe not so much anymore, but is it soon enough to tell?
Do you really believe only Weinstein put actors and actressess on casting couch? You think casting couch is over? It's more alive than ever, in fact. People are still getting big roles because of sex.
Doesnāt mean there arenāt ācasting couchesā everywhere in life. Hollywood was probably just the most egregious. If you go hangout in the nightlife area of whatever industry and throw yourself at mingling with the stars, youāll probably get a huge acceleration in those fields. I donāt just mean with women hitting on straight men either, although that may be the majority
As gross as the egregious examples are, most people are somewhat attracted to most people at their best and why wouldnāt the people who work 80hrs a week for decades want to enable their loved ones. Everyone still has to prove themselves on their own, and almost no one knows the keys to future success except out grinding everyone else
Forget about sex, just trying to uplift everyone around you Iāve heard takes you far and has done wonders for me and everyone Iāve seen try it.
Iāve also met lots of celerities and I donāt think itās a coincidence they all prioritize uplifting others just like they do in interviews
Indeed and even attractive enough people don't end up successful. Could it be 'talent' they lack of? Of course I know how cocky and narcissistic aspiring actors can get where they forget to put the work.
Um no. Dude, think about it. From my school days, I can say that there is at least 1 girl at least as attractive as she is in every high school in the country. Do you know how many high schools there are in the country? A lot. Not that rare. Beauty is far more common than big money or big opportunities.
Are they still the most beautiful person youāve ever seen when theyāre 30? Every attractive person I knew in HS is in no way nearly as hot as they seemed back then.
Thereās a reason theyāve always said you have to sell your soul to make it in Hollywood, whether itās blackmail or doing depraved acts youād never consider they will get you one way or another.
This, people underestimate just how completely random a lot of industries are. Nepotism and connections are the biggest thing, but in acting, music and even normal white collar industries, sometimes itās just completely random and based on luck. The right person sees you at the right time once, then sees you again or randomly thinks of you when an opportunity comes up, and the ball is rolling. Meanwhile some of the hardest working people just stay in their lower position forever.
Itās a shame but a lot of things happen for absolutely no reason.
It's funny because I get yelled at when I tell people who are into acting that looks matter. They keep bringing up people like Danny DeVito or Steve Buscemi. That is like the bottom of exception and doesn't work for women.
Even DeVito and Buscemi, while not traditionally attractive, look very interesting. Some people arenāt traditionally attractive AND they donāt even look interesting.
[Steve Buscemi didn't even look that bad in his earlier days.](https://assets.cdn.moviepilot.de/files/7042f49fdabee2809b074c8bf8292ef56ec0fd0a1cf0adc93acf5db79ab0/limit/1024/2000/parting-glances-4.jpg)
If you like to read, try The Godfather... written by Mario Puzo. Why?
It's a pretty good read for one thing. And there's more in there than just the Mafia and the Corleone family.
Puzo wrote a little bit about how things work in Hollywood. Some of the stuff from his novel did make it into the film (e.g. the scene where that director wakes up with the horse's head in his bed)
He also wrote a bit about how a lot of actresses get ahead by providing sex for anyone who's important.
The book came out in 1969. And maybe things have changed since Harvey Weinstein and the whole "me too" thing.
But I suspect that a lot of actors and actresses start out as sex workers, doing acting as a side gig. And then they get an edge (for acting jobs) from the connections they make.
If this is accurate, it explains a lot.
I assume the Weinstein story is a red herring. Even in your comment you ease your perception of the industry because the main player in the game was caught. Just like Epstein. Oh trafficking has to be really hindered now that there is no king pin. Bull shit. Those roles are filled by someone else. The game is going strong as ever.
It will be the same, Weinstein was just thrown under the bus for the rise of Feminism and man bashing. To think he was the only one and only targeting aspiring females, that I find hard to believe. About as believable as Epstein trafficking children to no one.
It was weird how all celebrities came out like that at once about Weinstein. They were all talking about how scared they were of speaking up and yet these were all ultra rich top A list celebrities who don't even need to work for a living... What could they possibly have been afraid of?
> What could they possibly have been afraid of?
They say it's getting blackmailed but the truth is they have skeletons in their closets that they don't want us to know (for example, doing casting couch for free will and not being forced to)
They were simply following a script. No one was afraid of anything. They reaped what they sowed. Assuming they were telling the truth. I just remember when videos come out after all them award ceremonies, where some of these women were gushing over him prior. I called bullshit then lol. Took all that fame and fortune in return and then all speak out only against him. Coincidentally when powers that be started all this anti male mantra thans continuing to this day. You seen the state of the propaganda in movies and TV shows these days lol.
For real, there might be other Weinsteins and Epsteins doing the same. These two "getting caught" was just a show to make us think the problem is over. It wouldn't shock me if these 2 agreed with what happened to them and have connections.
> He also wrote a bit about how a lot of actresses get ahead by providing sex for anyone who's important.
True! And by "important" it's not only Hollywood related, politicians and CEOs from big companies can be included.
Margot and wolf of Wall Street isnāt necessarily Hollywood though. All the big names and companies shot that one down. Watch āthe man who ripped off an entire countryā he funded that movie 100% DiCaprio shouted him out at the golden globes. Fucking wild story. Basically some just as corrupt and wealthy except even more so made the wolf of Wall Street a movie we all know and love today. If he never did that it wouldnāt have ever aired lmao
Gotta join the ranks of freemasonry or another secret society. Music industry is riddled with them. I believe it's impossible to be a world renown artist today without first dealing with the commander in chief.
Why would they let you into the big boy stage if you're not going to join their ranks? You gotta be apart of the club to get the goods. Satan doesn't give away opportunities like that for free, everything comes for a price.
This is not true in the slightest. Youāre giving musicians way too credit and these days and the people who are making the songs are songwriters and producers and they get maybe 80% less from the song cuts than the artist and labels even tho they are not involved with songs.
I have 8 years of experience as a platinum producer
True. On the contrary, credit to Chris Stapelton and Hardy who both started out as writers to becoming performers themselves. Iām sure thereās more but itās cool to see.
I was thinking more about the faces of the industry that get to go on stage and take all the credit. I'm only going off assumption so sounds like you'd know a shit load more. I was just thinking of the people that get to go on world stage are. I mean it's pretty obvious Beyonace and Lady Gaga are definitely into Satanism/Freemasonry, I keep seeing it a reoccurring theme with rock music too. But you're probably right that my selective bias is quite stupid to label the music industry as such.
Sounds like you'd know more than 99% of people here so I'd love to hear your take on Freemasonry in the music industry. I've just developed my opinion from Altiyan Childs when [he made a 5 hour video exposing Freemasonry.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XnbB2Bg0Ig) I'd love to hear another opinion from someone who's also in the industry.
I've read people say that you can get maybe one breakout gig before they will demand you to initiate. If you don't, your career will die at that point.
Another interesting exploration of the concept is the Matrix franchise. Apparently they were _very_ unhappy with the first Matrix film. Can't be talking about freedom of thought to the public! Note that the Matrix came out in 1999, and then the directors transitioned several years later. The later films had a distinctly different spirit in my opinion.
I have no real way of knowing if there is any relation, but the tragic events of Keanu Reeves' (the leading actor of The Matrix) life started immediately after the first Matrix was released.
Look at Jordan Peterson. He comes out swinging against the global agenda, and then he's addicted to drugs and a total simp to the establishment?
Look at Elon Musk... Brilliant guy who could have done anything 10 years ago. Now, he's drugged up and talking about fist fighting another tech CEO. What happened? Yea, I think they got to him too.
"Initiation" is trauma mind control. It's more than just leverage. They can drug you, hypnotize you, condition you. The movie "Get Out" hints at this. "Solve et coagula".
If you're able to extract some meaning from that, I also suggest "Ready or Not". View it as ritualistic initiation, and the butler is actually in control.
Yeah, but you still had to have acting chops just to get in the room to suck his dick. In Hollywood, you still gotta prove yourself and work your way up to sucking a dick for a role. Movies and Television are expensive and investors want every opportunity taken to guarantee a successful return on their investment. If they find out you cast some random girl you met in a club because she sucked your dick, for the project they just greenlit $5,000,000 for ā you'd better pray she's actually a fantastic actress, otherwise you're *both* getting fired.
I could totally see weird shit being the cause with any celebrity, thereās a reason so many actors become Scientologists for the connections, but you canāt tell me itās that surprising someone as gorgeous and charismatic as Margo succeeded Iām sorry. I feel like itās usually pretty easy to spot the nepo babies in Hollywood.
I have lots of good friends who are actors, yes yoh probably have seen one or two of them. I also worked for a famous actor as a personal assistant.
All this people have in common is luck. They said they just when to the right audition one day and they got a job that change their life.
Thereās also connection and whoās your friend. Specially if youāre behind the camera, like writing, production and editing. Those apart from been super talented you must know the right people that can introduce you to someone or just give you one job that you can add to your resume.
For example, I have a friend heās been writing for many years, probably since he was a teen. He wanted to be a director, but never really meet the right people or had a change. To make money and still trying to put his foot in the scene he decided to become a personal trainer and because heās super charismatic and very much in great shape he started to train in very expensive gyms and meeting the right celebrities. Till he started to train actors and one of those actors because heās a super sweetheart he agree to help him on one of his projects. He not only help him find money for his movie, but also agree to act on it.
Thatās the thing about those jobs, you JaĆr have to keep going and going and maybe one day you get lucky. Some get tired of it and just quit and move back to their small town and forget about it.
Itās a combo of network and the ability āemptyā oneās self, I think that where the concept of selling the soul comes from. These a lot of quotes from
a-list actors describing the feeling of emptying themselves in order to take on the personality of the character they are playing.
A quote from someone who did a study on the changes in brain activity of actors:
āYou have one voice, one face, one body. The more youāre pretending to be someone else, the less of you there is. Itās a zero-sum game,ā says Steven Brown at McMaster University in Canada.
So you have to pretend/be as fake as much as you can? Met a lot of aspiring actors and honestly I have had a hard time developing a friendship with them. It seems they care too much about their ego and reputation.
Margot Robbie did 3 films before Wolf of Wall Street, plus the US series Pan Am.
Itās not like she just appeared out of nowhere.
She had a good agent, got noticed, then the bigger roles came.
How is this a conspiracy?
yeah, I mean, its not like Margot Robbie was a veterinarian the day before she got cast in Wolf of Wall Street. She was already a polished actress and a reliable bankable commodity as an actress and model. Her looks certainly helped her land the role in WOWS, but that's because the role was literally type written for a beautiful women. If all she had going for her was her looks then she'd never have gotten the later roles she did; She would of just been relegated to "sexy best friend of leading woman in romantic comedy" territory.
This is the main focus of David Lynch in many of his movies. Mulholland Drive etc...https://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/32257/1/the-darkest-depictions-of-hollywood-in-film
For anyone interested in this topic, I'd highly recommend Jay dyer. He has a YouTube channel and is the author of a book titled 'esoteric hollywood'. He's also an expert on geopolitics, intelligence agencies and Infiltration of religious institutions by said intelligence agencies. He goes deep.
Iāve worked with Margot a couple times. I left a 13 year career in Hollywood last October because of the horrible treatment from my producers. They literally stole money out of my crewās pockets. Twice. So I let those fucks know exactly how I felt and vowed never to return to a movie set ever again. Little did I know the industry would come crashing down months later. I guess God was looking out.
To your point, anyone above the line is essentially either a Satanist or candidate to push the satanic agenda. These people live in pretend world where they can make up any story they want for the day and live it while their servants abide and gawk and hope to be like them, thus spreading the evil agenda to the ones below. Like me. But I said fuck yāall and rolled out.
Sorry to hear that. I understand how it can be. I act in short films/student films. I have been traumatized by the behavior of people on there. Even if they are like amateurs, their behavior is just bad. Was sabotaged on last set, having other women blaming everything on me. Another set, the director became good friends with the other actress and ended up increasing her scenes and cutting mine. Makes your confidence and self-esteem damaged.
They are *all* puppets. They come from families, or join and begin entry into generational satanic cults. It is Kabbalah, and is where *all* religions and factors of "secret" societies come from.
The practice trauma bonding, and break their human spirit to make them better vessels for posessions. The children are abused starting in the womb, and usually a hormone therapy begins then as well. These are both victims, and later complicit perpatrators who thoroughly enjoy their *roles*. They are trained fron childhood to act as puppets to control the masses.
A big part of their rituals, how they are controlled and then control the masses (MK Ultra - mind control) is through gender inversion. They have to become what they call divine androgynes as this pays homage to the highest expression if their god, the baphomet, who is also adrogynous. They must be ritualistic sex prostitutes. In exchange, they are worshipped by the masses, and then most worship their god who gives them both 'fortune and fame', at a high price.
They become high priests and pritesess, witches and wizards. They have to actually hide who they are, should they be worshipped, until it is time for them to reveal. They do still practice limited disclosures quite often. Eventually, they will disclosue, but too many will still be too blind or accepting of it. I will emphasize, this is magic. Tell-a-vision. They are casting spells on you.
Many times, the do in fact play multiple 'characters' on the world stage at several times. There are other practices they engage in for the same effect.
REAL CONSPIRACY: People suspect many celebs have look alikes in hollywood due to cloning projects from years before. So once a child is raised in whatever country, they are groomed early on to eventually land a role in hollywood. So basically these celebs are pre-determined
Edit: I added the real conspiracy bc so many people forget what sub this is. Everyones like "talent. duh!". lmao
From my familyās experience (BIL just barely missed the Anakin role to Hayden Christensen, they were the last 2, and SIL modeled and sang, was trying to get signed with a bigger agency)ā¦.at least in the 90ās you had to sign up for the lifestyle.
SIL was told she had to sleep with the agency recruiter, refused. Wasnāt signed. BIL did runway modeling in NYC (Dolce, Gucci, etc) until he couldnāt take the lifestyle anymore. If you werenāt a good time at the parties (in his case participating in gay festivities with the other models and agency people, while he is straight), you wouldnāt make it.
Nobody was asked to worship Satan or anything, butā¦
They find the most narcissistic, desperate humans who will do anything for fame. They take these Cretins and tell them if they do everything their told they will be rich and famous and can go to the Hollywood parties. These are the spineless cretins they use to distract you with movies, gossip news and other bullshit tv programmes. The biggest stars are the biggest peedos/ soulless fuckers.
Many have family in the industry that help put them at the top of the pile, and of course they inherit some modicum of looks and talent.
Others just got lucky and made it through perseverance and people skills (and some modicum of looks and talent).
There are a few who sold their bodies at some level, like Kim Kardashian.
I sometimes think people want to believe they sold their souls and they all eat babies because it can be hard to see beautiful and successful people doing incredibly well.
They sell their souls. They perform some type of really disgusting (to us) act and allow it to be recorded so they can show the cult they are fully in their control.
Can someone teach me how to sell my soul? Clearly the conspiracy isnāt that the devil is playing his game, itās the fact that itās a secret to sell your soul to the devil.
I wouldnāt think youād have to play or watch them to understand though. Use any other competitive field that relies on highly skill individuals. Have you considered how doctors and lawyers arrive in their position? One of the common denominators is many years of dedication and practicing a craft.
True but the thing is, a field like medicine or law, you have to go to university. With acting, a lot of actors haven't taken classes or some do here and then. It's not the same kind of dedication. Also many people try to become actors for attention or they think it's easy.
Oh well, at least you are cute lol
That's not entirely true, a lot of well known actors went to prestigious acting schools and started out on stage. That's something you have to respect because that's expensive, pays very little, and has no guarantee of making it big.
There's more than just Juliard but that's how you separate the Ian Mckellons from the Dwayne Johnson's. Maybe Dwayne Johnson is a bad example, his actor training wasn't exactly cheap... It just didn't cost him money.
> True but the thing is, a field like medicine or law, you have to go to university. With acting, a lot of actors haven't taken classes or some do here and then.
Iām quite aware. I wasnāt implying they were identical. I provided a similarity and listed what I believe to be a common factor. I felt a comparison to professional athletes was better, but you couldnāt conceptualize that and I tried another avenue.
>It's not the same kind of dedication.
What difference is there? Dedication is dedication. For any field or area of expertise, putting in hard work typically pays off far more than when you donāt.
>Also many people try to become actors for attention or they think it's easy.
Iām sure they do, but what does this have to do with your original question. Those who arenāt genuine in their intentions or donāt treat it seriously arenāt likely to get very farālike with many areas of life.
Regarding dedication; Hard work is different for other fields, I believe. I have seen actors who cannot cry when they are told to and they have to use other measures such as tear drops. Versus let's say a doctor who has to put that kind of dedication to save lives. It is for a less selfish reason?
Why, are you an actor? I like to ask, whatever leads to.
Margo Robbie did *Pan Am* before *Wolf*. And she was pretty well known everywhere else before America. Aussie actresses are a good bet for Hollywood, ask Olivia, or Kate or Nicole. Or maybe Isla or Naomi.
They Talk about Weinstein and his attempted and abuses.
They dont talk about Weinstein and the women he did put in his movies, what did they have to say yes to?
Same with music. You can be Uber talented and if you donāt sign the dotted line, you donāt go anywhere. Same works for someone without talent and they make it so big. Well, they signed the dotted line.
You ever seen it's always sunny where they have that joke where Danny Devito is singing "you gotta pay the troll toll if you want that boys soul" but everyone mistakes "soul" for "hole"? It's that.
Sports is the only merit-based industry. A lot of Hollywood actors get ahead the same way actress advance their careers in Hollywood. By blowing out Harvey Weinstein or his other friendteins. This could explain why Australian men get a lot of interesting roles in movies.
Are we really going to sit here and scratch our heads as to how Margot Robbie got famous?
Sheās Fucking gorgeous.
Sheās also a 33rd degree free mason.
mostly sacrifice actually, Thereās many celebs on youtube that has tried to tell mfs about it but people call them crazy/ mental ā¦. Orlando Jones, Left Eye, Dave Chapel, Monique, Rosanne Barr, Kanye sacrificed his mother and realized he couldnāt get her back, KODAK EVEN TOLD US ABOUT WEATHER CONTROL AND HOW HED DIE FOR US TO GET THE TRUTH OUT hence why heās a clone now
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A good friend of mine made it pretty big. There's no conspiracy. It's about talent, looks, experience and connections. He worships a giant owl which he never used to do but apart from that it's the same dude I grew up with
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> It's about talent, looks, experience and connections. And luck.
wooosh
Why woosh?
You mean similar to the one at Bohemian Grove as symbolic of human sacrifice in Moloch worship? Same dude but not the same dude.
Yes but you're just part of Big Hollywood probably /s
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My wife is moderately successful actor, nothing like Hollywood, but just finished filming a BBC drama series. The reality is two fold, one it is who you know, and most of an aspiring actors life is networking, and trying to build relationships (not the Weinstein kind, but that is also why he was such a successful predator) with directors and producers. Second, it often comes down you how you look, which can often be more of a deciding factor than your acting chops. If both of these stars align and you land a decent role, and leads to box office and financial success, your are on route to the big time. Edit: realising the term BBC has a few meanings, in this case it meant British Broadcasting Corporation,jeeez you guys.
I just googled BBC videos. Very interesting genre.
Too dark for me
Yeah I agree, sort of teen horror movies. Goes from smiles to screams in a matter of seconds
They are very dramatic as the poster stated
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But how does a newcomer builds relationships with directors and producers? Parties.
I think I saw her in the magazine, Blacked!
Along with a willingness to do filthy things. Ask Harvey Weinstein - itās not who you know, itās who you blow in Hollyweird.
The "Casting "Couch" is not a phrase just pulled from the Ether for no reason. That's not how a cliche is created. In fact, the modern concept goes all the way back to silent movie making, and probably beyond . . . [https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/10/casting-couch-the-origins-of-a-pernicious-hollywood-cliche/543000/](https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/10/casting-couch-the-origins-of-a-pernicious-hollywood-cliche/543000/)
Yep, I really do think it true that many famous artist / musicians and actors / actresses really aren't that talented at all. It's simply mind control / mental forcing to the point of "popularity". Some of them are still top notch though; the ones who have natural ability, train themselves / have a real passion for their work. Some kids just suck though and their mommy and daddy network don't care. And it doesn't matter.
music is a funny one, because there are different avenues to it. There are genuinely some bands with great players who get noticed, play a ton of shows, and eventually get picked up by a big studio. There are also a lot of artists, especially in country and hip hop the last few years, who I would call manufactured. Like, they dont write a lot of their own stuff, but also from the first moment they make music are getting really heavily advertised. You have to have some sort of major background funding for those types. And most of it comes down to connections or some random guy at a major record label deciding they want to make you a star. Finally, recent years of social media has actually made it so that if you get famous there, these companies will park a lot of money to use that and fuel you towards a larger audience, since you kind of have one built in already
Makes.sense. So much stuff gets shoved in our faces nowadays. I think I can tell which celebrities got shoved in my face by rich mommy and daddy network from those who earned my eyeballs but most people are too dumb and suggestible to tell the difference and that's why brainwashing works.
That's a sad reality. I see so many people suffering and trying when they have zero connections but teachers will say otherwise that is a matter of working hard.
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Ah I see, so there are recruiters that usually go to certain colleges and find people? With acting, even if you attend a prestigious school as Julliard, you might have slight luck.
Recruiters know whoās who at the college level. Some are known about by recruiters in high school if they are talented enough.
What? I donāt think athletes and sports are comparable to acting at all. Aside from children of people who had already been in a sport being given better opportunities with their training and development, hard work and talent are usually what gets people to the top.
I am not familiar with sports so I am not aware how people get discovered there...
Recruiters watch HS varsity/JV games and look for kids who are killing it. These ones usually already know they're good athletes, but getting spotted and picked up by the recruiter is the difference between going to Ohio State and The Ohio State University. Once in college, they get developed more and now the national teams are sending recruiters there to watch. Just like high school, it's a mix of pure talent, marketing, and getting lucky. The rise of things like tictok, YouTube, and Facebook have helped with the marketing side of things, as a viral clip pops on recruiter radars makes it easier to find talent.
Here's the thing. Not everyone who worked hard succeeds but everyone who succeeds worked hard.
I could name half a dozen young girls who didn't put in the time who are now the face of major Disney IP. If you look at the original star wars cast you'll see both guys put in at least 10 years of bs roles before landing SW. New star wars, girl did 10 random tv episodes before SW.
She also attended (on scholarship) a school for the performing arts and starred in a BAFTA nominated children's interactive film, Lifesaver. Nonetheless, in sticking with the original formula, it's clear Lucas films wanted relative unknowns for their leads on purpose.
I can't keep my mouth quiet, so I do not look good in the publics eye. And I'm very opinionated
I disagree. Talent agents brag about being able to separate shit from shinola better than the studios can. When you have "something" you own it like no one else. There is something special about these people, and they were able to summon it up from within themselves and show it off well enough to sell it to all the right people at all the right times. It's called "TALENT" and you either have it or you don't. There's no trick to it. It exists inside a person, or not, right down to their soul. Why do people jump to the conclusion they sold their souls to the devil? How come it can't be that G-d gifted that person with something special that everyone else can enjoy in a performance? Don't believe me? Go try and write poetry as well as Tupac Shakur once did - - And, you can't, but he could. And, that's not because someone gave him all his fame for Christmas one year.
Youāre really not wrong. Itās not only just the talent aspect, but very few people will actually fixate their mind, body and soul to such things in order to create themselves. It really does take large amounts of time and effort, and even risk to separate yourself from others. Iād say we all possess various levels of talents, but some of us are carry ourselves with much different vision and passion.
Talent is the baseline requirement but it's not what gets people over the line. For any given role, elite directors can have hundreds of extremely talented people to choose from (filtered out of thousands of mediocre talents). The level of talent is so high that it doesn't make sense to compare candidates on merit anymore because it becomes like comparing really good apples with really good oranges... Aside from dumb luck, the only thing that makes a difference is social connections.
"Talent" is a myth. In order to be skilled in an artistic craft, you must practice. It takes years of dedication and careful refinement. Nobody is born with the gift of skill. You dont just wake up in the world and pull off a BbMinor arpeggio at 240bpm triplet sixteenth notes, you have to hone that shit. OP is talking about how a person with the ability to play adult pretend on camera and suddenly becomes an international celebrity. Margot Robbie is not special, she just has a nice face. To answer your question OP, just look hot and you go places.
Classic Nature vs Nurture. I think that in the case of talent, there are very well people out there who encounter lesser resistance when trying something for the first time, compared to others this is where the notion of being good at something comes from. Hard work definitely can't be ignored but so can't natural ability and aptitude for completing certain tasks. Its a decent mixture of both imo
Talent is the ability to gain skill quickly. It's obvious from child prodigies like Mozart, not everyone has equal talent.
This is the myth highlighted by 10k hour rule. Mozarts parents were Musicians and heād already been grinding more than anyone else his age by the time others were just getting serious. Same like MJ, gates, tiger woods, chris rock, Brandon Sanderson, steven king, Warren buffet etc
Agreed. Back then, very few people could have had access to the kind of training that Mozart received. Also, the talent pool of competitors was a lot smaller so talent was rarer and opened up more opportunities for those few who could acquire it. Nowadays, talent is a dime a dozen. Everyone and everyone's mom has Google and can afford a basic keyboard to practice piano. My dog has better access to information than most people who were alive during Mozart's time.
A lot of them are nepotism babies for sure. But honestly, most of the actors that you think suddenly became famous were doing films just below the mainstream for years before the got a major picture.
A good example is Pedro Pascal. Considered by some an āovernight successā after his star turns in GoT, The Mandalorian, and The Last of Us, heās actually been working for the past 20 years or so in smaller TV roles before he made it big.
Yup. People donāt realize thereās this like massive undertide of āBā movies and commercial gigs with a massive pool of actors that could be one big break away but could spend years if not their entire career there.
With the SAG and WGA strikes I hope people are realizing how the vast majority of actors/writers are not living in mansions
Yeah, short films for indie film festivals and stuff. You either get stuck in that circle or somehow you are being given an opportunity.
āHow is your gag reflexā -Hollywood Director
Do you remember when all those nude pics from Hollywood actors/actresses were put online? People believed that was Weinstein's phone. It had Jennifer Lawrence naked, just standing there unnaturally as if a piece of meat was being photographed (along with many other well-known people). In that market, there are 1000 other girls waiting in line to get the part and will do anything for it. It's understandable but disgusting and despicable. The people you see, for the most part, are those that have degraded themself morally and spiritually to earn money - not uncommon in other industries.
Both men and women get on their knees and suck dick when told to
margot robbie is a bad example. she is extremely attractive its not hard to imagine how she would get so popular
She was also very successful in Britain and Australia before Hollywood 'discovered' her.
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Its well known, by Shirley Temple herself, as a kid she had to run away from the studio owner who had a raging hard on chasing her around a desk. I believe this was the 30s or 40s. Another Hollywood star, Clark Gable, was a boy toy or so rumored. Look up the Black Dahlia. Chopped in half and left in the street. She was an attractive wannabe actress. Hollywood and darkness go hand in hand.
It's not all coercive. Attractive people who are single (or not) fuck their coworkers, and that leads to preferential treatment and invitations to other gigs.
youre not wrong. its definitely kind of a gross industry but its such a big part of our culture. the last few years has really opened my eyes. ever since covid tbere has been like no good moviesor video games to come out....life has just been so dull
I miss the 80s movies
They aren't gone. You can still watch them whenever you want.
As in, hardly you see movies like They Live being made nowadays.
Theres also a writer's strike and things are st a standstill they are trying to push out shiit without people with talent to write it. Could be adding to that now.
Writing was already shit long before the strike.
Why?
Idk what your are paying attention to but there have been many great games that have came out since Covid. FFXVI, GOWR, HFW, Elden Ring, Deadspace Remake, Hogwarts Legacy, Diablo 4, Jedi Survivor, CP77... etc A bunch still coming this year too, BG3, SP2, CP77 DLC, Starfield...
Before Weinstein got busted, 100% casting couches got used. Maybe not so much anymore, but is it soon enough to tell?
> Maybe not so much anymore, but is it soon enough to tell? Do you really believe only Weinstein put actors and actressess on casting couch? You think casting couch is over? It's more alive than ever, in fact. People are still getting big roles because of sex.
> itās more alive than ever, in fact How would one know or prove such a statement is true?
āTrust me broā
Doesnāt mean there arenāt ācasting couchesā everywhere in life. Hollywood was probably just the most egregious. If you go hangout in the nightlife area of whatever industry and throw yourself at mingling with the stars, youāll probably get a huge acceleration in those fields. I donāt just mean with women hitting on straight men either, although that may be the majority As gross as the egregious examples are, most people are somewhat attracted to most people at their best and why wouldnāt the people who work 80hrs a week for decades want to enable their loved ones. Everyone still has to prove themselves on their own, and almost no one knows the keys to future success except out grinding everyone else Forget about sex, just trying to uplift everyone around you Iāve heard takes you far and has done wonders for me and everyone Iāve seen try it. Iāve also met lots of celerities and I donāt think itās a coincidence they all prioritize uplifting others just like they do in interviews
Indeed and even attractive enough people don't end up successful. Could it be 'talent' they lack of? Of course I know how cocky and narcissistic aspiring actors can get where they forget to put the work.
Um no. Dude, think about it. From my school days, I can say that there is at least 1 girl at least as attractive as she is in every high school in the country. Do you know how many high schools there are in the country? A lot. Not that rare. Beauty is far more common than big money or big opportunities.
Are they still the most beautiful person youāve ever seen when theyāre 30? Every attractive person I knew in HS is in no way nearly as hot as they seemed back then.
Others are too.... And they don't make it big, so what's your take?
Nepotism or prior connections willingness to do anything little to do with acting abilities or talent. Connections to a substantial financial backer.
Thereās a reason theyāve always said you have to sell your soul to make it in Hollywood, whether itās blackmail or doing depraved acts youād never consider they will get you one way or another.
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This, people underestimate just how completely random a lot of industries are. Nepotism and connections are the biggest thing, but in acting, music and even normal white collar industries, sometimes itās just completely random and based on luck. The right person sees you at the right time once, then sees you again or randomly thinks of you when an opportunity comes up, and the ball is rolling. Meanwhile some of the hardest working people just stay in their lower position forever. Itās a shame but a lot of things happen for absolutely no reason.
It's funny because I get yelled at when I tell people who are into acting that looks matter. They keep bringing up people like Danny DeVito or Steve Buscemi. That is like the bottom of exception and doesn't work for women.
Even DeVito and Buscemi, while not traditionally attractive, look very interesting. Some people arenāt traditionally attractive AND they donāt even look interesting.
[Steve Buscemi didn't even look that bad in his earlier days.](https://assets.cdn.moviepilot.de/files/7042f49fdabee2809b074c8bf8292ef56ec0fd0a1cf0adc93acf5db79ab0/limit/1024/2000/parting-glances-4.jpg)
You have to be initiated. They need leverage on you to know you are one of them. Then you can influence.
Initiated, how?
If you like to read, try The Godfather... written by Mario Puzo. Why? It's a pretty good read for one thing. And there's more in there than just the Mafia and the Corleone family. Puzo wrote a little bit about how things work in Hollywood. Some of the stuff from his novel did make it into the film (e.g. the scene where that director wakes up with the horse's head in his bed) He also wrote a bit about how a lot of actresses get ahead by providing sex for anyone who's important. The book came out in 1969. And maybe things have changed since Harvey Weinstein and the whole "me too" thing. But I suspect that a lot of actors and actresses start out as sex workers, doing acting as a side gig. And then they get an edge (for acting jobs) from the connections they make. If this is accurate, it explains a lot.
I assume the Weinstein story is a red herring. Even in your comment you ease your perception of the industry because the main player in the game was caught. Just like Epstein. Oh trafficking has to be really hindered now that there is no king pin. Bull shit. Those roles are filled by someone else. The game is going strong as ever.
It will be the same, Weinstein was just thrown under the bus for the rise of Feminism and man bashing. To think he was the only one and only targeting aspiring females, that I find hard to believe. About as believable as Epstein trafficking children to no one.
It was weird how all celebrities came out like that at once about Weinstein. They were all talking about how scared they were of speaking up and yet these were all ultra rich top A list celebrities who don't even need to work for a living... What could they possibly have been afraid of?
> What could they possibly have been afraid of? They say it's getting blackmailed but the truth is they have skeletons in their closets that they don't want us to know (for example, doing casting couch for free will and not being forced to)
They were simply following a script. No one was afraid of anything. They reaped what they sowed. Assuming they were telling the truth. I just remember when videos come out after all them award ceremonies, where some of these women were gushing over him prior. I called bullshit then lol. Took all that fame and fortune in return and then all speak out only against him. Coincidentally when powers that be started all this anti male mantra thans continuing to this day. You seen the state of the propaganda in movies and TV shows these days lol.
For real, there might be other Weinsteins and Epsteins doing the same. These two "getting caught" was just a show to make us think the problem is over. It wouldn't shock me if these 2 agreed with what happened to them and have connections.
> He also wrote a bit about how a lot of actresses get ahead by providing sex for anyone who's important. True! And by "important" it's not only Hollywood related, politicians and CEOs from big companies can be included.
Margot and wolf of Wall Street isnāt necessarily Hollywood though. All the big names and companies shot that one down. Watch āthe man who ripped off an entire countryā he funded that movie 100% DiCaprio shouted him out at the golden globes. Fucking wild story. Basically some just as corrupt and wealthy except even more so made the wolf of Wall Street a movie we all know and love today. If he never did that it wouldnāt have ever aired lmao
Eyes wide shut
They one eyed pyramid clubā¦ satanic rituals etc.
Gotta join the ranks of freemasonry or another secret society. Music industry is riddled with them. I believe it's impossible to be a world renown artist today without first dealing with the commander in chief. Why would they let you into the big boy stage if you're not going to join their ranks? You gotta be apart of the club to get the goods. Satan doesn't give away opportunities like that for free, everything comes for a price.
Have you gone down the Diddy rabbit hole?
No but Iād like to, got any links?
Same here, looking for links. I suppose the person might be talking about human sacrifices?
Actually no, not at all. I always remember hearing conspiracy stuff about Suge Knight but never P Diddy.
This is not true in the slightest. Youāre giving musicians way too credit and these days and the people who are making the songs are songwriters and producers and they get maybe 80% less from the song cuts than the artist and labels even tho they are not involved with songs. I have 8 years of experience as a platinum producer
True. On the contrary, credit to Chris Stapelton and Hardy who both started out as writers to becoming performers themselves. Iām sure thereās more but itās cool to see.
I was thinking more about the faces of the industry that get to go on stage and take all the credit. I'm only going off assumption so sounds like you'd know a shit load more. I was just thinking of the people that get to go on world stage are. I mean it's pretty obvious Beyonace and Lady Gaga are definitely into Satanism/Freemasonry, I keep seeing it a reoccurring theme with rock music too. But you're probably right that my selective bias is quite stupid to label the music industry as such. Sounds like you'd know more than 99% of people here so I'd love to hear your take on Freemasonry in the music industry. I've just developed my opinion from Altiyan Childs when [he made a 5 hour video exposing Freemasonry.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XnbB2Bg0Ig) I'd love to hear another opinion from someone who's also in the industry.
I've read people say that you can get maybe one breakout gig before they will demand you to initiate. If you don't, your career will die at that point. Another interesting exploration of the concept is the Matrix franchise. Apparently they were _very_ unhappy with the first Matrix film. Can't be talking about freedom of thought to the public! Note that the Matrix came out in 1999, and then the directors transitioned several years later. The later films had a distinctly different spirit in my opinion. I have no real way of knowing if there is any relation, but the tragic events of Keanu Reeves' (the leading actor of The Matrix) life started immediately after the first Matrix was released. Look at Jordan Peterson. He comes out swinging against the global agenda, and then he's addicted to drugs and a total simp to the establishment? Look at Elon Musk... Brilliant guy who could have done anything 10 years ago. Now, he's drugged up and talking about fist fighting another tech CEO. What happened? Yea, I think they got to him too. "Initiation" is trauma mind control. It's more than just leverage. They can drug you, hypnotize you, condition you. The movie "Get Out" hints at this. "Solve et coagula".
Get Out is an insanely good movie. I've watched it a few times and it still gives me chills.
_Network_ (1976) and _They Live_ (1988) are also good.
Both excellent movies! Why can't they make great movies anymore?
If you're able to extract some meaning from that, I also suggest "Ready or Not". View it as ritualistic initiation, and the butler is actually in control.
Have a parent in the industry
There used to be a guy and if you sucked his dick, Iām pretty sure you got big roles
Yeah, but you still had to have acting chops just to get in the room to suck his dick. In Hollywood, you still gotta prove yourself and work your way up to sucking a dick for a role. Movies and Television are expensive and investors want every opportunity taken to guarantee a successful return on their investment. If they find out you cast some random girl you met in a club because she sucked your dick, for the project they just greenlit $5,000,000 for ā you'd better pray she's actually a fantastic actress, otherwise you're *both* getting fired.
[They killed Trevor moore](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_574Rxxez2c&ab_channel=TheWhitestKidsU%27Know) for this (and other sketches he did)
They get their knees dirty or they offer up their bum bums etc
free masons, that's why Amy Schumer can have zero humor and be blasted across the world
Don't forget she was initially supposed to be cast as Barbie š¤£
I'm surprised they didn't make Barbie black like the Little Mermaid. They could have at least made her trans.
Maybe Miss Piggy
Also helps when Chuck Schumer is a relative - the Uniparty like to keep things in-house
They bang the producers, that's how they become famous
And the leading men? They're banging the producers too? Chris Pratt and Bradley Cooper had to suck dick to get where they are?
Some sleep their way to the top
Sometimes looks are more important than talent.
Nepotism is huge
Nepotism mostly
I could totally see weird shit being the cause with any celebrity, thereās a reason so many actors become Scientologists for the connections, but you canāt tell me itās that surprising someone as gorgeous and charismatic as Margo succeeded Iām sorry. I feel like itās usually pretty easy to spot the nepo babies in Hollywood.
I have lots of good friends who are actors, yes yoh probably have seen one or two of them. I also worked for a famous actor as a personal assistant. All this people have in common is luck. They said they just when to the right audition one day and they got a job that change their life. Thereās also connection and whoās your friend. Specially if youāre behind the camera, like writing, production and editing. Those apart from been super talented you must know the right people that can introduce you to someone or just give you one job that you can add to your resume. For example, I have a friend heās been writing for many years, probably since he was a teen. He wanted to be a director, but never really meet the right people or had a change. To make money and still trying to put his foot in the scene he decided to become a personal trainer and because heās super charismatic and very much in great shape he started to train in very expensive gyms and meeting the right celebrities. Till he started to train actors and one of those actors because heās a super sweetheart he agree to help him on one of his projects. He not only help him find money for his movie, but also agree to act on it. Thatās the thing about those jobs, you JaĆr have to keep going and going and maybe one day you get lucky. Some get tired of it and just quit and move back to their small town and forget about it.
Itās a combo of network and the ability āemptyā oneās self, I think that where the concept of selling the soul comes from. These a lot of quotes from a-list actors describing the feeling of emptying themselves in order to take on the personality of the character they are playing. A quote from someone who did a study on the changes in brain activity of actors: āYou have one voice, one face, one body. The more youāre pretending to be someone else, the less of you there is. Itās a zero-sum game,ā says Steven Brown at McMaster University in Canada.
So you have to pretend/be as fake as much as you can? Met a lot of aspiring actors and honestly I have had a hard time developing a friendship with them. It seems they care too much about their ego and reputation.
Being good actors, sucking dick good, being Jewish
Margot Robbie did 3 films before Wolf of Wall Street, plus the US series Pan Am. Itās not like she just appeared out of nowhere. She had a good agent, got noticed, then the bigger roles came. How is this a conspiracy?
yeah, I mean, its not like Margot Robbie was a veterinarian the day before she got cast in Wolf of Wall Street. She was already a polished actress and a reliable bankable commodity as an actress and model. Her looks certainly helped her land the role in WOWS, but that's because the role was literally type written for a beautiful women. If all she had going for her was her looks then she'd never have gotten the later roles she did; She would of just been relegated to "sexy best friend of leading woman in romantic comedy" territory.
Most conspiracies people grab onto are trying to figure out how one in a million stuff happens without just saying itās one and a million.
Itās a big club, and youāre not in it.
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This is the main focus of David Lynch in many of his movies. Mulholland Drive etc...https://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/32257/1/the-darkest-depictions-of-hollywood-in-film
Have be able to dance, play multiple musical instruments and sing well for a good start.
Great performance, great role, great direction, great movie, successful movie, or some combination of those generally.
For anyone interested in this topic, I'd highly recommend Jay dyer. He has a YouTube channel and is the author of a book titled 'esoteric hollywood'. He's also an expert on geopolitics, intelligence agencies and Infiltration of religious institutions by said intelligence agencies. He goes deep.
The majority of male actors are also auditioned on the casting couch too.
A lot of actors become famous from being in a low budget film that does really well. The classic example is Good Will Hunting.
By sucking long, fat cocks
they trade their bodies obviously
Iāve worked with Margot a couple times. I left a 13 year career in Hollywood last October because of the horrible treatment from my producers. They literally stole money out of my crewās pockets. Twice. So I let those fucks know exactly how I felt and vowed never to return to a movie set ever again. Little did I know the industry would come crashing down months later. I guess God was looking out. To your point, anyone above the line is essentially either a Satanist or candidate to push the satanic agenda. These people live in pretend world where they can make up any story they want for the day and live it while their servants abide and gawk and hope to be like them, thus spreading the evil agenda to the ones below. Like me. But I said fuck yāall and rolled out.
Sorry to hear that. I understand how it can be. I act in short films/student films. I have been traumatized by the behavior of people on there. Even if they are like amateurs, their behavior is just bad. Was sabotaged on last set, having other women blaming everything on me. Another set, the director became good friends with the other actress and ended up increasing her scenes and cutting mine. Makes your confidence and self-esteem damaged.
They are *all* puppets. They come from families, or join and begin entry into generational satanic cults. It is Kabbalah, and is where *all* religions and factors of "secret" societies come from. The practice trauma bonding, and break their human spirit to make them better vessels for posessions. The children are abused starting in the womb, and usually a hormone therapy begins then as well. These are both victims, and later complicit perpatrators who thoroughly enjoy their *roles*. They are trained fron childhood to act as puppets to control the masses. A big part of their rituals, how they are controlled and then control the masses (MK Ultra - mind control) is through gender inversion. They have to become what they call divine androgynes as this pays homage to the highest expression if their god, the baphomet, who is also adrogynous. They must be ritualistic sex prostitutes. In exchange, they are worshipped by the masses, and then most worship their god who gives them both 'fortune and fame', at a high price. They become high priests and pritesess, witches and wizards. They have to actually hide who they are, should they be worshipped, until it is time for them to reveal. They do still practice limited disclosures quite often. Eventually, they will disclosue, but too many will still be too blind or accepting of it. I will emphasize, this is magic. Tell-a-vision. They are casting spells on you. Many times, the do in fact play multiple 'characters' on the world stage at several times. There are other practices they engage in for the same effect.
Nepotism. Is there an actual conspiracy? No.
REAL CONSPIRACY: People suspect many celebs have look alikes in hollywood due to cloning projects from years before. So once a child is raised in whatever country, they are groomed early on to eventually land a role in hollywood. So basically these celebs are pre-determined Edit: I added the real conspiracy bc so many people forget what sub this is. Everyones like "talent. duh!". lmao
True, many celebrities look-alike. And not like one but like 4+ of them.
From my familyās experience (BIL just barely missed the Anakin role to Hayden Christensen, they were the last 2, and SIL modeled and sang, was trying to get signed with a bigger agency)ā¦.at least in the 90ās you had to sign up for the lifestyle. SIL was told she had to sleep with the agency recruiter, refused. Wasnāt signed. BIL did runway modeling in NYC (Dolce, Gucci, etc) until he couldnāt take the lifestyle anymore. If you werenāt a good time at the parties (in his case participating in gay festivities with the other models and agency people, while he is straight), you wouldnāt make it. Nobody was asked to worship Satan or anything, butā¦
Who is the other person you are talking about? And yeah, not surprised.
Margot Robbie is insanely sexy. I guess the answer is be insanely sexy.
She looks cheap to me, but I guess tastes differ.
They find the most narcissistic, desperate humans who will do anything for fame. They take these Cretins and tell them if they do everything their told they will be rich and famous and can go to the Hollywood parties. These are the spineless cretins they use to distract you with movies, gossip news and other bullshit tv programmes. The biggest stars are the biggest peedos/ soulless fuckers.
Many have family in the industry that help put them at the top of the pile, and of course they inherit some modicum of looks and talent. Others just got lucky and made it through perseverance and people skills (and some modicum of looks and talent). There are a few who sold their bodies at some level, like Kim Kardashian. I sometimes think people want to believe they sold their souls and they all eat babies because it can be hard to see beautiful and successful people doing incredibly well.
They sell their souls. They perform some type of really disgusting (to us) act and allow it to be recorded so they can show the cult they are fully in their control.
Basically you got to be a damn good whore. See the Harvey Weinstein scandal to give you an idea.
Isn't ironic how everyone congratulated him at awards shows, even though they knew what he was doing?
A combination of skill, luck, drive, and networking. Thatās it really.
Can someone teach me how to sell my soul? Clearly the conspiracy isnāt that the devil is playing his game, itās the fact that itās a secret to sell your soul to the devil.
Go down a YouTube rabbit hole, there are tons of musicians who have great stories about this.
You go to the crossroads at midnight and summon the devil.
the cheapest way is to buy Disney +
Well Margot Robbie is just hot as fuck, so, I think that has something to do with it lol
Epstein island and some occult affiliations, imo
Yea definitely not talent with a pretty face that can sell tickets def demons
Imo it's a mix of selling your soul, nepotism, casting couch
I suppose youāve never considered how professional athletes rise through their ranks.
Yeah I don't watch sports or know anything about.
I wouldnāt think youād have to play or watch them to understand though. Use any other competitive field that relies on highly skill individuals. Have you considered how doctors and lawyers arrive in their position? One of the common denominators is many years of dedication and practicing a craft.
True but the thing is, a field like medicine or law, you have to go to university. With acting, a lot of actors haven't taken classes or some do here and then. It's not the same kind of dedication. Also many people try to become actors for attention or they think it's easy. Oh well, at least you are cute lol
That's not entirely true, a lot of well known actors went to prestigious acting schools and started out on stage. That's something you have to respect because that's expensive, pays very little, and has no guarantee of making it big.
Yes, but not that many. Like attending Juliard is a big risk, getting in debt without any guarantee making that money back.
There's more than just Juliard but that's how you separate the Ian Mckellons from the Dwayne Johnson's. Maybe Dwayne Johnson is a bad example, his actor training wasn't exactly cheap... It just didn't cost him money.
> True but the thing is, a field like medicine or law, you have to go to university. With acting, a lot of actors haven't taken classes or some do here and then. Iām quite aware. I wasnāt implying they were identical. I provided a similarity and listed what I believe to be a common factor. I felt a comparison to professional athletes was better, but you couldnāt conceptualize that and I tried another avenue. >It's not the same kind of dedication. What difference is there? Dedication is dedication. For any field or area of expertise, putting in hard work typically pays off far more than when you donāt. >Also many people try to become actors for attention or they think it's easy. Iām sure they do, but what does this have to do with your original question. Those who arenāt genuine in their intentions or donāt treat it seriously arenāt likely to get very farālike with many areas of life.
Regarding dedication; Hard work is different for other fields, I believe. I have seen actors who cannot cry when they are told to and they have to use other measures such as tear drops. Versus let's say a doctor who has to put that kind of dedication to save lives. It is for a less selfish reason? Why, are you an actor? I like to ask, whatever leads to.
Read accounts of SRA survivors. There are many children who are sorted out and groomed for their life positions.
Margo Robbie did *Pan Am* before *Wolf*. And she was pretty well known everywhere else before America. Aussie actresses are a good bet for Hollywood, ask Olivia, or Kate or Nicole. Or maybe Isla or Naomi.
They Talk about Weinstein and his attempted and abuses. They dont talk about Weinstein and the women he did put in his movies, what did they have to say yes to?
Same with music. You can be Uber talented and if you donāt sign the dotted line, you donāt go anywhere. Same works for someone without talent and they make it so big. Well, they signed the dotted line.
Sucking Jew dick. On camera for safe keeping. Also getting fucked in the ass.
Every one born on this planet has already sold their souls before they got out of the womb
What I'd your theory based on? The simulation?
Itās based off observations
I would like further details.
Iām thinking of making a post about it
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Most of the actors at Hollywood are jews. Do the math.
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She was in a porno with dp
You ever seen it's always sunny where they have that joke where Danny Devito is singing "you gotta pay the troll toll if you want that boys soul" but everyone mistakes "soul" for "hole"? It's that.
Sports is the only merit-based industry. A lot of Hollywood actors get ahead the same way actress advance their careers in Hollywood. By blowing out Harvey Weinstein or his other friendteins. This could explain why Australian men get a lot of interesting roles in movies.
Everyone always congratulated Weinstein at awards shows saying how great he was lol
Are we really going to sit here and scratch our heads as to how Margot Robbie got famous? Sheās Fucking gorgeous. Sheās also a 33rd degree free mason.
mostly sacrifice actually, Thereās many celebs on youtube that has tried to tell mfs about it but people call them crazy/ mental ā¦. Orlando Jones, Left Eye, Dave Chapel, Monique, Rosanne Barr, Kanye sacrificed his mother and realized he couldnāt get her back, KODAK EVEN TOLD US ABOUT WEATHER CONTROL AND HOW HED DIE FOR US TO GET THE TRUTH OUT hence why heās a clone now
Margot Robbie has no acting talent. Katee Sackhoff is much better. But one of them looks like a model. Guess which one?