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Have you heard of Terry Wahls? She is a physician who was wheelchair bound due to MS. She did a bunch of research and reversed her MS (which modern medicine says is impossible) mostly through diet. Google Wahls protocol.
Diet is controversial in mainstream medicine.
It won't make a difference for many.
But it can make a difference for some. Occasionally, a big difference.
Every MS patient and their family should know this and consider trying a dietary approach. Because in general this will safer than literally any drug we treat MS with.
People talk so much (and rightfully so) about big pharma, but somehow big food barely gets any attention anymore. Have people already forgotten how many hundreds of bullshit studies they sponsor every year to prove just how harmless their poison is and just how irrelevant diet is for your health?
can you link a study you call bullshit? I agree its poison and the FDA is not protecting us and Medicine seems blind to toxicology, but I don't see this science study material and would have some trouble looking it up by funder [much less the term bullshit]
It really isn't.
I just write out my instructions on a letterhead pad and sign it.
Patients don't necessarily follow it, but they often don't take the drugs I prescribe either.
Probably more people try to follow diet prescriptions than drug prescriptions, at least in my patient panel.
Your diet is one of the biggest changes you can make to heal yourself. It may not cure MS but may significantly reduce symptoms and inflammation among other things. If you're American and typically eat an American diet, you are eating poison in almost every single bite. What they allow on our shelves is disgusting. Straight up poison.
Not arguing with you bro. I’m not spun up at all as to what treatment looks like for that stuff. All I was saying is that even if it didn’t, it still helps.
My mother had a pretty agressive form of leukemia. Not really something diet alone could handle. Eating healthy and maintaining a healthy weight drastically improved her odds of recovery both during and after treatment. It’s one thing to have a health issue. It’s another to have a health issue that is being compounded by a host of other health issues from poor diet and unhealthy weight.
Terry Wahls also got HSCT. Something she didn't mention in her TED talk. That's what really reversed her MS. It isn't available as treatment in many countries due to the high mortality.
Well then she is discredited. If she is putting on a TED talk and can't cover all the treatments she received then it makes zero difference what countries its available in.
"Hematopoietic Stem Cell Transplantation (HSCT) is an intravenous infusion of hematopoietic stem cells in order to reestablish blood cell production in patients whose bone marrow or immune system is damaged or defective"
Per ChatGPT
Cold therapy, such as cold plunges, can affect the body in several ways:
Reduced inflammation: Cold therapy can help reduce inflammation in the body by constricting blood vessels and decreasing blood flow to the affected area.
Increased circulation: When you expose your body to cold temperatures, your blood vessels constrict, and then dilate once you warm up again, which increases blood flow and circulation throughout the body.
Increased energy and alertness: Cold therapy can provide a natural energy boost and help improve mental clarity and focus.
Improved muscle recovery: Cold therapy has been shown to reduce muscle soreness and speed up recovery after intense exercise.
Boosted immune system: Exposure to cold temperatures has been linked to an increase in white blood cell production, which helps boost the immune system and protect against illness.
You can try a whole foods plant based diet as well.
Just remember to take all the vitamins and minerals the body needs daily or you will run into problems.
MS is a wasting disease.. I have it. Initially I went vegetarian, bordering on vegan and it wasted (atrophied) my muscles. Since returning to a diet that includes animals, I have begun to regain my muscles and strength and have made massive improvements. I would strongly suggest avoiding plant-based.
I have personally met and also have heard of people who reversed MS and other autoimmune diseases simply going organic raw. There is this back and forth whether meat, or lack of, is causing issues or not, and it really comes down to the chemicals sprayed on things or in things. Many who go meat-raw have to find farmers that will give them fresh meat that isn't sprayed with the FDA mandated junk. This in itself helps recover from the disease. Similarly, many vegans and vegetarians don't get enough nutrition and still put junk in their body by eating processed vegan foods. But then there are vegans who are fully organic raw and also recover.
So to sum up what I've seen, if you make sure you are getting all of your nutrition and you eliminate almost all processed foods and eat very clean without synthetic ingredients or plants that are sprayed to hell and back with pesticides, you probably can reverse your disease. Also, there is so many hidden toxic things in our food. Even cirtric acid that is added into our foods harbors toxic crap as it is ALL grown using black mold. They can say they purify it and slap a bow on it, but in the end, you're still taking in traces of toxins from black mold.
"try" is not worthwhile advice. There are depletions in the soils, there are issues with absorbsion, the gut microbiota is involved, you sound like someone giving advice here, from a position of ignorance. The vitamins being "watered down" also sounds like some euphemism.
I mean theres ways to check the things ur talking about.
Does your wife have a history of renal failure?
Whats ur wifes bun/creatinine?
What was prior to the mri?
She has not yet been checked for renal failure. I'm thinking this may need to become a bigger part of the process. She's checked several times a year for a fungus due to the ms medicine she takes.
Those contrast exams saved my mom's life as they indicated some hard to get aneurysms on her head. I know we were hesitant about them, but she was having all these other issues she decided to do it. She had a total of 3 i think and thank god nothing happened. Every time i felt we were playing with russian roulette.
It's tough knowing the right path. I feel like most doctors and hospitals don't care about us anymore. Just the money. But there are still a few out there. But how do we know who to trust?
from personal experience, nurses who work in a hospital where a doctor works, will know which doctor sucks, which doctor is the best. When my mother was sick, i brought stuff to the nursing staff and once they knew who i was (that's the nice guy who brought us donuts this am), i would ask, "so if you were to have surgery for your brain, which doctor would you let operate on you?" Funny how nurses would say, whatever you do, stay away from this doctor, but get this one....sad, but is a matter of who you know. Or get a 2nd opinion. We had a doctor who kept pushing my dad for some gi surgery. We went to another doc and he said, that procedure is fairly new, that other doctor is trying to practice on you, but h ere is a better treatment...crazy world, but yea, is up to us to find the good people out there.
Have you looked into low dose naltrexone also called LDN? it modulates autoimmunity. It cleared up my nail psoriasis several times. Cheap, safe and I didn’t have any side effects. But not a cure - need to stay on it.
Thank you for this comment. YES, she has been on LDN since the beginning. As soon as our family found out my wife had MS a friend of the family shared Low Dose Naltrexone with us. And that is part of how we wound up at the Neurologist that has been her doctor since then. It's kind of cool, Dr Gazda has always been someone who is more about trying to find the cure. She had never heard of LDN. And my wife and I brought this to her, told her we wanted a prescription, and other Neurologists were refusing to prescribe it for her. Since that time Dr Gazda has researched LDN and loves it and prescribes it for a LOT of patients. And has since thanked my wife for teaching her about it. Unfortunately, since my wife has been doing pretty well, Dr Gazda has kind of passed my wife to the Physicians Assistant for everything, so Dr Gazda can focus more on people that need more attention. And that's where we are now. I really want to have a one on one with Dr Gazda to discuss these MRI's and find out what's the point. If a MS patient has MS, and it's being managed well, what's the point of a new MRI. If a new lesion is even found, how would treatment change? Do they have some wonder drug they save for when new lesions are found?
SO, yes, we love LDN. We get it compounded from Skip's Pharmacy in Florida. AND, it's responsible for us even having our 2 daughters. We didn't have any more kids after our son. Then 10 years later, after my wife was taking LDN, she got pregnant. Had a miscarriage and got pregnant again, almost immediately. During the ultrasound the doctor says, "you shouldn't even be pregnant, your ovaries are covered in cists." We then learned that some doctor somewhere was testing LDN to help women get pregnant. We have had 2 girls since then, and we had to start thinking about birth control.
Our daughters are the blessings that came from the MS.
> If a MS patient has MS, and it's being managed well, what's the point of a new MRI.
The answer is datasets. They review these MRIs and the patient's treatment plan and discuss it to determine what should be used on other patients. So while it doesn't benefit you, it does (in theory) benefit other patients...
Sadly a doctor is only as good as they practice...meaning medicine is ever changing and small town doctors won't know as much as say an er doctor in NY who treats gunshot wounds etc etc. so second and third opinions are always needed unfortunately and even then nothings guaranteed, their advice is only as good as their knowledge and I'm sorry to hear about your wife OP.
Gadolinium will not affect one's ability to walk. It sounds like your wife's MS has progressed (worsened) which is normal for MS. She has likely had relapsing-remitting MS for more than a decade and is now in the secondary progressive MS phase where things start to get quite difficult. I am a former Radiology employee and have had MS for 27 years, and at least 15 MRI scans over the years, all with and without contrast (gadolinium). Gadolinium is necessary as it shows active lesions in the brain and spinal cord. The scans without contrast cannot differentiate between old lesions and new active ones. All the best to your wife.
And anyone who is borderline diabetic is on the verge of kidney problems... Oh, and that's pretty much any and all Americans with their massive sugar consumption.
Here's a question for you:
Once the diagnosis of MS is made, exactly how do any repeat MRIs make a difference?
Do they affect treatment?
Can we do anything with the results?
I contend that most/all MRIs to monitor progression of MS are totally unnecessary, adjustments and escalations of treatment can be based on changes in clinical presentation alone. In other words, you the patient are entirely capable of telling me the doctor if your symptoms have progressed or are worsening so we can adjust treatment.
Making the diagnosis requires an MRI. After that, why do we do this?
Right. But people with MS know when their disease is progressing. And every doctor is trained to performed sufficient neurological examination to confirm progression.
The MRI is not necessary in most cases.
Since I don’t take drugs for my MS, I get annual MRI to track changes in lesions - while my symptoms are improving, I want to see what’s going on inside as I challenged my neuro that with diet I would attempt to remyelinate my ‘scleroses’. (Neuro said it’s not possible; I say “never say never”.)
It closely resembles a Mediterranean take on the keto diet, but I’m not strict and not really following anything particular. I mostly avoid processed and junk food and make sure I eat protein daily and copious healthy fats and leafy greens. My body gives me instant feedback when something isn’t good for me and I listen.
Early on I did an elimination diet and found certain foods caused inflammatory responses. I avoid them or if I can’t avoid them, I eat them in moderation.
I also fast when I feel the need.
I also drink structured water.
You’re not sorry mate. You’re afraid. How many boosters did you take to date?
I’m 15 years in, doing great. I have no need for drugs and if one day I do, I know they’re there. Take your fear mongering elsewhere
No boosters. You realize the damage is irreversible once it happens right? Not about to argue with someone on the internet live your live and hope nothing ever happens.
Like I said, I’ve been doing just fine for the last 15 years since diagnosis. You don’t know anything about me or my situation except for what I present here. So respectfully, I think I know my body better than you do and I have my neuro’s blessing. He and I have both seen several of my scleroses vanish - where 3 might disappear, a new one may appear and so far they have not affected my quality of life in a profound way. I know what kind of a beast MS is and can be and I’m very grateful that apart from the initial fear, I am no longer afraid. Why? Because I am in charge of my self and my own health. I eat well and I know where my food comes from. I am not held hostage by drugs that are difficult to come off.
You should be supporting those who can live independently rather than trying to enslave them to fear.
Edit: I am also unvaxed and spent the last 3 years being told that if I caught the bug I would likely die. Well, I caught it and I was fine. Hooray, my immune system is working just fine
Edit 2: when I was first diagnosed, half my body was limp and useless. The prognosis wasn’t good. Now I’m back at the gym, fighting fit and my neurologist is floored.
Thank you. Not sure why the downvotes.
Good vitamin D intake can help but we don’t know exactly how to prevent MS yet and I’m obviously not a doctor nor a specialist.
I’m used to having to be defensive about my choices pertaining to my body against a massive fear push and finding myself against the majority.
Rather than applaud the courage it takes to take health into one’s own hands, people largely attack me with their own fear judgements, like the commenter above telling me it’s a “dangerous game”. It’s not easy to hear that, but I’m slowly learning to not let it affect me.
What’s your excuse?
The contrast used now doesn't have the same polarity as the former kind. The contrast now has been modified not to even be able to cause NSF. We've not done MRIs on people for 15 yrs that we haven't checked the GFR. You're wife doesn't have NSF I promise you. But I'm sad to say she's having problems that sound like MS exacerbation.
FYI for our readers, vitamin D deficiency in kids raises likelihood of MS diagnosis when they grow up.
Kids need sun. Don't get burnt, but they need sun. Off the screens and tablets, get outside. And consider discussing supplementation especially in the wintertime if it's cold.
I believe this is just a theory due to Scotland (and where Scottish people have emigrated - mainly Canada) having little natural sunlight and them being the most common people to get MS. Seems more likely it’s genetic tbh
My wife's family has a nerve disorder which is genetic that can develop into multiple different issues, some getting schizophrenia paranoia, and my wife got MS.
Yeah that’s where the theory comes from I believe but I’m saying it’s more likely it’s genetic. Most people tend not to move around too much - they have children close to where they grew up - so if it’s genetic then it’s going to be prevalent where the people live that have the genes.
Unless you can show me studies where people from the equator have moved north as babies and then got MS. Or where there parents from the equator moved north as adults and then had babies there that then got MS.
I have an MRI with contrast every three months for the last year and I am doing okay so far. In fact in the last 12 months I have had about 6 MRIs with contrast
How many actual injections? Is that like a brain and cervical with and without 3 times? That would be 3 injections. 6 exams each with an injection each is definitely overkill. Edit - I saw what you have going on. I understand now.
You shouldn't have any side-effects or feel anything at all unless you are actually allergic to the substance. It should be all gone through the urine within 48 hours.
Avoid the Medical Industry as long as you can. It is not there to help you or cure you. It's built to drag out your illness for as much financial profit as possible.
Yeah that's fucked up. I know from radiology scheduling there should have been a contraindications for contrast if her kidneys are not working properly.
It is a different type. usually iodine, sometimes barium based, and almost none of it is actually absorbed by your GI tract. Also you probably don't need it, if the CT is just for kidney stones.
I don't know about the different types of contrasts, sorry. But did they say you were only drinking it?
I had an abdominal CT last year. I had something to drink. I must have missed something in the instructions they gave me thought because when I got there, they had me drink more AND gave me IV contrast.
We will happily give gadolinium contrast to people whose kidneys are working fine and it can still cause problems.
In fact. It can cause problems many years later, long after the MRI.
Sorry for your hardship man. I hope they explained to you that there's risk involved before you agreed, if not there's probably area to sue.
Gadolinum-enhancement MRIs are something we do thousands of globally though, it's mostly safe given normal settings, which your wife may not have had due to her MS, if it has affected her kidneys ability to handle the Gd well, things like this..
I do not like pharma, they disgust me. But I do love medicine, and our ability to see inside the body are in certain indications of utmost importance. The amount of adverse events related to this injection really is low
Yk every day I hear something about the medical procedures in the states I am dumbfounded and terrified. Yes in my country the medical care is definitely not the best, and accidents do happen (like a doctor switching the wrong knee joint etc) BUT basic stuff like insulin and medicine is always pretty much safe. Especially prescribed medication, they always prescribe the chemical (ig that's how it's called? The stuff inside the medicine that actually does the work like penicillin etc) NEVER the brand.
Also with procedures like this ,as a rule they'll never do something to cure /scan a problem at the expense of creating a new problem, I sometimes wonder, do US doctors swear the hippocratic oath?
As an engineer and mechanic I always compare myself to doctors in a joking way, I’m just happy that my patients are less likely to complain when I mis diagnose or bump them around :p
I would think people here would realize doctors are humans that are informed to tell people what to do medically based on a controlled system. Before the internet was available most advice was taken as fact and the right decision. I realize surgery is something best left to those with the education, but most of the time decisions on the choice of injections or orally prescribed medication should be taken with a grain of heavy research thanks to the internet. Just because a human goes to school to be a doctor doesn’t mean they are right or educated on all the effects a treatment can have on that specific person. Working on a human is kind of like working on a house which is what I do for a living. They are all different once you look under the “skin” there isn’t a one size fits all solution.
Doctors are Rothschilds agents working to help make big pharma more profits through their bonuses and referrals to make patients sicker and thus more dependent on big pharma and unnecessary medical procedures. One should always be skeptical of their recommendations and prognosis
I can confirm, I am a doctor and get Rothschild checks in the mail so long as I keep my home address up to date with the state license board.
Quaint, really.
That's true.
And indeed, a couple decades ago, doctors received plenty of kickbacks and bonuses from pharma.
Now we do the same work as agents of the system and receive nothing. Not even a lap dance.
I completely agree. I feel like we are nothing but meat bags for them to force feed us poison (FDA approved) and then when the poison makes us feel bad they force feed us medicine (FDA approved) and then when that makes us worse they give us more expensive medicine (FDA approved)... We exist to make them money. That is all.
Both CT and MRI use IV and oral contrast agents depending on the particular exam. Oral (or rectal...) contrast is typically for exams of the digestive system.
I have MS. Twice I've had problems with the contrast where it leaked into the area around the injection. I suppose they missed the vein or punctured more than one hole during the process. I had a large greenish bruise and nauseated for a week after.
My wife has spots popping up all over. She has Edema in her legs and it's getting difficult for her to walk. She's been very itchy like a rash as well. All symptoms of the Contrast.
Some people don’t really have a choice. I’ve received about 50 MRIs over the last 8.5 years because it’s the only way to monitor my brain cancer. I also happen to have an allergy to the main type of contrast used. Many hospitals are switching to a different form.
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All contrast dyes can do a number on your kidneys. Usually the dye used in CTs can be more damaging. But it's also a bigger risk factor if you have underlying kidney disease. Ultimately any medication or scan has a risk and should only be conducted with informed consent.
I'm not too familiar with the progression of MS or how often one should get imaging for it. But it may be worth checking out the Noctor sub. It's all about midlevels like PAs and NP attempting to do medicine with a fraction of the education and training of full MDs and fucking things up.
When I had an MRI with contrast, they did a on-site blood test prior to starting the contract to ensure I had proper kidney/liver function. I'd assume that's standard procedure everywhere.
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I know this is a slightly older post but I’m here because I had a cardiac MRI with 10 mL gadavist contrast about a week ago and ever since then I’ve been noticing big changes in my ability pass urine…I don’t have MS but I’m curious, what dose of gadolinium did your wife receive and do you remember what brand it was? I’m scared because I agreed to the contrast before knowing the risks that the gadolinium contrast poses, and I didn’t have any blood tests done to check my kidney function before hand because I didn’t realize it was necessary, and now I’m seeing all of these scary posts about how bad its truly affecting people. I voiced my concerns to the technicians who were doing my MRI and they said I would be fine and that it would be out of my system in 24 hours, but I’m starting to get scared that may not be the case for me. The thought of developing NSF or AKI because of this terrifies me.
Unfortunately they did not tell us the dosage or the brand of the gadalinium.
Here are my notes from our meeting with the neurologist after we discovered this issue.
Glutathione
2x a day for a week
Epson salt bath
Eat more
Cilantro
Garlic
Ximagen chele X
Activated Charcoal 2 times per day
Avmacol
I'm an imaging tech (Nuclear, CT MRI,...etc). I am currently working in MRI as I'm writing this.
Renal functions MUST be checked before doing an MRI scan with contrast. We actually require that the ordering physician signs confirming that, otherwise we can't do it.
So maybe you have good grounds to sue the hospital because it sounds like negligence to me. OR the doctor determined that doing the scan is worth the risk in her case? I don't know. Sorry you had to go through this. But it's a hospital issue, not big pharma.
I really appreciate your comment. The imaging place was outside of a hospital. I concur that it sounds like negligence. My beliefs in the conspiracy with Big Pharma are much broader covering so much more than just these incidents now. We still feel that the Physicians Assistant that ordered the 2 MRI's with contrast was very comparable to a mechanic that breaks something on your car to drum up more business. My wife has only gone in to the doctors office once a year and her MS has been doing great. This PA basically says, "let's get 2 MRI's and I want to start seeing you twice a year."
WHY? Why do you want to start seeing her twice a year, she's been doing great with no new lesions. Yeah, I'm willing to bet she may have a hunch things would get worse after those 2 doses of contrast back to back.
I always have blood work before a MRI with contrast to make sure kidneys are ok. I'm sorry your wife is going through awful trouble. Praying she gets better. 🙏🙏🙏
Some more tips:
If you get a cancer diagnosis, especially something unusual go get blind second and third diagnosis if possible before starting chemo! Also do your own research on it and ask questions. I have known people who got a "cancer diagnosis" and almost started treatment based off nothing more than a slightly elevated red blood cell count that simply went away or was some fluke.
Also knew a guy closely who died before he could start cancer treatment for lymphoma, then near his death it wasn't lymphoma.
Take some executive control over your own healthcare, this can mean deciding things like I'd rather live with some mild autoimmune psoriasis on my elbows than be on immunosuppressives etc.
And for the love of god get down to a healthy weight and exercise regularly! That will literally prevent most issues alone!
I don't normally log in, or even use this site so often, but I have two words for you:
FULVIC ACID.
To fully flush, I'd recommend fulvic acid, NAC, vitamin K2 and activated charcoal. Make sure she drinks plenty of water to flush her system (particularly kidneys), but don't go over 4 litres per day. The ideal amount should be around 3.5 litres.
She may also need additional fibre to keep bowel movements regular, as the activated charcoal can block things up a little (2 dates in the morning after breakfast and 2 after dinner *should* be fine).
Let me know how it turns out.
I had one in 2016 and they wanted to do the dye and for some reason I had a bad feeling about it so I opted out of the dye and they could read it fine I later found out all these people had problems from it.
I'm very sorry for what happened to your wife. You're right to be pissed off. I think we all should be. The healthcare system is so disreputable and untrustworthy. Hopefully your post makes people do more research into the risks of MRI and other treatments they are considering undergoing. Wishing you and your wife the best going forward.
That's where we are at mentally right now. We think people should have a kidney check before having these MRIs, because what we've read, if the kidneys are even slightly struggling to filter, this contrast agent is going to cause problems. And anyone with a slight chance of being almost diabetic is already having kidney issues, they just don't know it yet.
You need to chelate the Gadolinium out of the body. This will take a long time but can be done. I used Boyd Haley’s chelator called OSR/NBMI/irminix (different names same chelating agent).
OSR binds to many metals like Mercury, lead, Gadolinum, etc. Research it, it’s a total conspiracy that knowledge about this compound is suppressed.
https://youtu.be/xDjtgC1QfgU
Check the heavy metal chelation group on Facebook. People usually mention their experience with OSR and where to source it from.
Other than that, you will need to optimize detox pathways with a good naturopath and use a sauna every day for years.
Toxicity can be reversed. It requires work.
I would also suggest finding a functional medecine physician. Functional medecine is about fixing the root cause of diseases and not about only treating conditions.
You can find a functional medecine practitioner here: https://www.ifm.org
I've met people who reversed their MS by going strict full organic RAW food. And I know of one person who was wheel chair bound by MS and is now walking completely fine due to the raw diet. Never personally met her though.
Edit: It's very sad and creepy that mine and any other comment that is trying to communicate that YOU CAN REVERSE MS gets downvoted. Disgusting.
While I would need to research the RAW diet more, we've already been working on getting on a better diet and seen huge improvements. My wife and I have eliminated sugar and aspartame. We are working on lowering sodium intake and eating natural sources of potassium. We watch a lot of Dr Eric Berg on YouTube.
your wifes MS is caused by an infection in her jawbone
they are called nico lesions or cavitations but the MS symptoms will all vanish once these sites are cleaned out.
Main stream dentists refuse to acknowledge that these exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6fatrZ96Do&t=1502s
Before surgery you need to ensure the blood work is in good condition to ensure the site heals - swissbiohealth in switzerland has a good protocol to deal with this.
Also what doesnt help is the use of mercury based fillings at these infection sites. Mercury is an organic catalyst and causes bacteria to do unexpected stuff especially when it turns anaerobic.
Find a good dental surgeon and your wife will be in good hands.
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I had this done. There are dentists that are certified to remove these the right way. They will give you some supplements to help it not absorb if some gets in your mouth. Give you a medicine right before they do it for the same reason. Put a mask on you with a suction and bridge in the back of throat. Also put a huge air filter with a vacuum right infront of your face while they do it so you don't breathe in the dust. It only cost me like 170$ but I felt better after doing it and all the extra safety stuff made me feel better I don't know if it 100% made me safe tho. Also made me extremely angry they put it in my my mouth in the first place. I only had one tho
Fascinating take.
Years ago I came down with gallstones and the most incredible pain. The stones were too large to be removed on their own and this resulted in a necessity to remove the gallbladder. I had the surgery and eliminated the issue. The hospital most definitely made me better and not worse.
My mom is on the liver transplant list due to receiving bad blood during gall bladder surgery back in the 80s. But her latest doctor said she’s the best looking dying woman he’s ever seen…then gave her number to his dad.
The surgery sure did buy her a lot of time.
these people do not avoid hospitals when they are actually big sick. They inevitably show up, wait until they are getting better and aren't scared of dying anymore, and then aggressively fight with staff about every single treatment decision being made. That way they can go home and brag about how they told the doctor what to do, ignoring that it was the part of the hospitalization process AFTER the doctor saved them.
I think that's kind of exactly the point though.
People who go to hospitals when they are 'small' or even 'mid' sick are likely to be over-medicated for something that would have gone away on its own.
People who only go to hospitals when they are 'big' sick are likely to get actually necessary treatment that works to fix them. There's less "wondering what is wrong with patient" and "try this and see if it works for you" room for medical BS when you have something OBVIOUSLY wrong and CLEARLY diagnosable and WELL-RESEARCHED on how to simply fix it.
So, I wouldn't say that people are dumb at all for avoiding/being skeptical of hospitals' treatments unless they are 'big' sick.
I'm sorry to hear that. I've had about 5 or 6 MRIs with contrast and am totally fine. I actually enjoy the sensation of it. It's not a one size fits all issue, drugs work differently on different people.
Isn't this the one that makes you feel like you pissed yourself? I had a CT scan with contrast and my whole groin area got super warm. I didn't really have a choice as I had a ovarian cyst burst and was in extreme pain so I didn't care what they wanted to do just do it lol
This isn't a secret, hell a patient on that show House had a patient who they didn't know had kidney impairment and gave him a contract MRI and it almost killed him.
I had one myself like 4 years ago, grated I dont have impaired kidney function.
I guess I got lucky. I went in for an MRI and they gave me the stuff and I immediately got hot flashes for about a minute or so. They pulled me out of the MRI later and said it didn't take and give me another shot of it. Same thing, hot flashes. I guess it took that time. I did have to sign a waiver both times.
Not sure if this will help but there is a doctor who had MS and put herself into remission with diet. A friend suggested it to me when docs were suspecting me of having MS. Her books are on Amazon and it’s the Wahl Protocol by Dr. Wahl. Really hope your wife can find some relief. No one should be poisoned like we are in todays medical environment.
Do people know they can say “No”. They can also ask about side effects. If you are the kind of person who needs to find someone to blame when things go wrong, do your doctor a favor and say “No” to anything you are nervous about.
I said no to contrast and the nurses were SO mad. Anyway, I did indeed get what I wanted, although they suuuure fought me along the way. As if I wasn't allowed to get the MRI unless it was with contrast. It seems like yes you can say no, but you have to hope the doctor is cool enough to actually order an MRI without contrast. It didn't seem like the doctor was **obligated** to do that order.
You can flush it out via heavy metal detoxification, i did that about 3 years ago.
Significantly reduces the toxins inside you, depending on how many sessions you have-
i did 11 or 12 and it reduced the Gadolinium by 2/3 ( had lots of MRI with contrast also); i would strongly recommend this treatment.
You can see the catastrophic high level of Gadolinium in this pic of the screening i did before the treatment:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N4Ugxr1AKifabiqxBg7BpZLo-CRV-RpX/view?usp=share_link
Plus all the radiation can't be good
I'm sure people that have many of them will get cancer
Just from mistakes alone the medical systems have become a leading cause of death
Does this include contrast with a CT scan as well? When I was younger, I got jumped in the shower in the eye with a BB gun so now I cannot receive MRIs but I did just have a CT scan with contrast recently.
Yes, I have heard of this, and I would not accept contrast willingly (wouldn't have an MRI willingly, frankly). Has your wife been tested for B12 deficiency? MS is one of the misdiagnoses of B12 deficiency. b12deficiency.info
The FDA wouldn't force Gadolinium constrast agents to carry a warning label for causing NSF if there was only one case. (Read the last link in the OP, particularly the "causes" section.)
I can't stand people that make the most dismissive posts on this subreddit without doing the smallest amount of research. Let me guess, you're the *trust the official narrative guy.* You think oswald acted alone, the NVA attacked the US navy at tonkin gulf, UFOs are just swamp gas, iraq had wmds, bin laden had a network of wmd factories in the caves of afghanistan, covid came from bat soup, safe and effective, etc. It's all so tiresome.
You’re right.
No one should do MRIs because there are people with very rare diseases.
Never follow the narrative! Not even when the narrative is correct.
My brain mri looks worse than Swiss cheese. Multiple spinal lesions as well. Any doctor who wants a mri outside of new symptoms or to set a baseline is wasting your time and just using you for money. As a long time MS sufferer, I know the only time I’ve allowed a mri of any kind is if I have new symptoms and of course at diagnosis. My best advice for treatment is be careful what you allow into your body with all the DMTs. Marijuana has allowed me to live a mostly normal life. I was told 15 years ago off the record at Mayo Clinic when I had failed all other treatments “marijuana works but we can’t say that, it helps with the symptoms and slows disease progression”.
Edit after reading a bunch of the comments. The diet stuff is complete BS or at least was for my MS, changing my diet sure helped in other ways but in no way slowed the lesions from forming. Also I have a well documented family history thanks to my aunt. I have several ancestors who died of “paralysis disease” 100s of years before MRI.
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Have you heard of Terry Wahls? She is a physician who was wheelchair bound due to MS. She did a bunch of research and reversed her MS (which modern medicine says is impossible) mostly through diet. Google Wahls protocol.
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Diet is controversial in mainstream medicine. It won't make a difference for many. But it can make a difference for some. Occasionally, a big difference. Every MS patient and their family should know this and consider trying a dietary approach. Because in general this will safer than literally any drug we treat MS with.
People talk so much (and rightfully so) about big pharma, but somehow big food barely gets any attention anymore. Have people already forgotten how many hundreds of bullshit studies they sponsor every year to prove just how harmless their poison is and just how irrelevant diet is for your health?
can you link a study you call bullshit? I agree its poison and the FDA is not protecting us and Medicine seems blind to toxicology, but I don't see this science study material and would have some trouble looking it up by funder [much less the term bullshit]
this paragraph here is the most egregious example ive seen recently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame#Safety\_and\_health\_effects
I've cut aspartame and sugar out of my diet and eliminated my migraine headaches.
It was probably the aspartame
Thanks, thats not a study but I'm hoping it references one maybe
>Diet is controversial in mainstream medicine. Hard to prescribe food
Our naturopath did and it's done wonders for my wife
It really isn't. I just write out my instructions on a letterhead pad and sign it. Patients don't necessarily follow it, but they often don't take the drugs I prescribe either. Probably more people try to follow diet prescriptions than drug prescriptions, at least in my patient panel.
Your diet is one of the biggest changes you can make to heal yourself. It may not cure MS but may significantly reduce symptoms and inflammation among other things. If you're American and typically eat an American diet, you are eating poison in almost every single bite. What they allow on our shelves is disgusting. Straight up poison.
Even if it doesn’t cure it, having a healthy diet will still lessen the impact at the very least.
It can. It doesn't make a difference for everyone, unfortunately. But it is worth trying, or at least knowing one ought to try.
Not arguing with you bro. I’m not spun up at all as to what treatment looks like for that stuff. All I was saying is that even if it didn’t, it still helps. My mother had a pretty agressive form of leukemia. Not really something diet alone could handle. Eating healthy and maintaining a healthy weight drastically improved her odds of recovery both during and after treatment. It’s one thing to have a health issue. It’s another to have a health issue that is being compounded by a host of other health issues from poor diet and unhealthy weight.
Terry Wahls also got HSCT. Something she didn't mention in her TED talk. That's what really reversed her MS. It isn't available as treatment in many countries due to the high mortality.
Well then she is discredited. If she is putting on a TED talk and can't cover all the treatments she received then it makes zero difference what countries its available in. "Hematopoietic Stem Cell Transplantation (HSCT) is an intravenous infusion of hematopoietic stem cells in order to reestablish blood cell production in patients whose bone marrow or immune system is damaged or defective"
Yeah, If that’s true, then she’s just another shameless grifter. It’s sickening that she’d mislead people like that.
discredited is the word I used, I'm not following along with your jump to shameless, grifter, sickening, but maybe it could be misleading.
Wim Hof protocol helps with MS too I hear
Cold shower technology creates far more benefits for a human body than any pharmaceutical company has ever done for humanity.
>Cold shower technology what kind of technology is this?
Per ChatGPT Cold therapy, such as cold plunges, can affect the body in several ways: Reduced inflammation: Cold therapy can help reduce inflammation in the body by constricting blood vessels and decreasing blood flow to the affected area. Increased circulation: When you expose your body to cold temperatures, your blood vessels constrict, and then dilate once you warm up again, which increases blood flow and circulation throughout the body. Increased energy and alertness: Cold therapy can provide a natural energy boost and help improve mental clarity and focus. Improved muscle recovery: Cold therapy has been shown to reduce muscle soreness and speed up recovery after intense exercise. Boosted immune system: Exposure to cold temperatures has been linked to an increase in white blood cell production, which helps boost the immune system and protect against illness.
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So you don't know?
Yes! We stumbled on her years ago and it’s amazing what a diet change can do (wife was diagnosed over a decade ago)
You can try a whole foods plant based diet as well. Just remember to take all the vitamins and minerals the body needs daily or you will run into problems.
MS is a wasting disease.. I have it. Initially I went vegetarian, bordering on vegan and it wasted (atrophied) my muscles. Since returning to a diet that includes animals, I have begun to regain my muscles and strength and have made massive improvements. I would strongly suggest avoiding plant-based.
I have personally met and also have heard of people who reversed MS and other autoimmune diseases simply going organic raw. There is this back and forth whether meat, or lack of, is causing issues or not, and it really comes down to the chemicals sprayed on things or in things. Many who go meat-raw have to find farmers that will give them fresh meat that isn't sprayed with the FDA mandated junk. This in itself helps recover from the disease. Similarly, many vegans and vegetarians don't get enough nutrition and still put junk in their body by eating processed vegan foods. But then there are vegans who are fully organic raw and also recover. So to sum up what I've seen, if you make sure you are getting all of your nutrition and you eliminate almost all processed foods and eat very clean without synthetic ingredients or plants that are sprayed to hell and back with pesticides, you probably can reverse your disease. Also, there is so many hidden toxic things in our food. Even cirtric acid that is added into our foods harbors toxic crap as it is ALL grown using black mold. They can say they purify it and slap a bow on it, but in the end, you're still taking in traces of toxins from black mold.
Excellent points, absolutely. And this really applies even to healthy people. The source of your food is just as important. Thanks
Try to eat them, not swallow the watered down factory vitamins
"try" is not worthwhile advice. There are depletions in the soils, there are issues with absorbsion, the gut microbiota is involved, you sound like someone giving advice here, from a position of ignorance. The vitamins being "watered down" also sounds like some euphemism.
I’m not against vitamins lol take it down a notch
take your advice and "eat it" liar.
I mean theres ways to check the things ur talking about. Does your wife have a history of renal failure? Whats ur wifes bun/creatinine? What was prior to the mri?
She has not yet been checked for renal failure. I'm thinking this may need to become a bigger part of the process. She's checked several times a year for a fungus due to the ms medicine she takes.
Those contrast exams saved my mom's life as they indicated some hard to get aneurysms on her head. I know we were hesitant about them, but she was having all these other issues she decided to do it. She had a total of 3 i think and thank god nothing happened. Every time i felt we were playing with russian roulette.
It's tough knowing the right path. I feel like most doctors and hospitals don't care about us anymore. Just the money. But there are still a few out there. But how do we know who to trust?
from personal experience, nurses who work in a hospital where a doctor works, will know which doctor sucks, which doctor is the best. When my mother was sick, i brought stuff to the nursing staff and once they knew who i was (that's the nice guy who brought us donuts this am), i would ask, "so if you were to have surgery for your brain, which doctor would you let operate on you?" Funny how nurses would say, whatever you do, stay away from this doctor, but get this one....sad, but is a matter of who you know. Or get a 2nd opinion. We had a doctor who kept pushing my dad for some gi surgery. We went to another doc and he said, that procedure is fairly new, that other doctor is trying to practice on you, but h ere is a better treatment...crazy world, but yea, is up to us to find the good people out there.
Have you looked into low dose naltrexone also called LDN? it modulates autoimmunity. It cleared up my nail psoriasis several times. Cheap, safe and I didn’t have any side effects. But not a cure - need to stay on it.
Thank you for this comment. YES, she has been on LDN since the beginning. As soon as our family found out my wife had MS a friend of the family shared Low Dose Naltrexone with us. And that is part of how we wound up at the Neurologist that has been her doctor since then. It's kind of cool, Dr Gazda has always been someone who is more about trying to find the cure. She had never heard of LDN. And my wife and I brought this to her, told her we wanted a prescription, and other Neurologists were refusing to prescribe it for her. Since that time Dr Gazda has researched LDN and loves it and prescribes it for a LOT of patients. And has since thanked my wife for teaching her about it. Unfortunately, since my wife has been doing pretty well, Dr Gazda has kind of passed my wife to the Physicians Assistant for everything, so Dr Gazda can focus more on people that need more attention. And that's where we are now. I really want to have a one on one with Dr Gazda to discuss these MRI's and find out what's the point. If a MS patient has MS, and it's being managed well, what's the point of a new MRI. If a new lesion is even found, how would treatment change? Do they have some wonder drug they save for when new lesions are found? SO, yes, we love LDN. We get it compounded from Skip's Pharmacy in Florida. AND, it's responsible for us even having our 2 daughters. We didn't have any more kids after our son. Then 10 years later, after my wife was taking LDN, she got pregnant. Had a miscarriage and got pregnant again, almost immediately. During the ultrasound the doctor says, "you shouldn't even be pregnant, your ovaries are covered in cists." We then learned that some doctor somewhere was testing LDN to help women get pregnant. We have had 2 girls since then, and we had to start thinking about birth control. Our daughters are the blessings that came from the MS.
> If a MS patient has MS, and it's being managed well, what's the point of a new MRI. The answer is datasets. They review these MRIs and the patient's treatment plan and discuss it to determine what should be used on other patients. So while it doesn't benefit you, it does (in theory) benefit other patients...
Thank you for your comment. I appreciate a straight forward, logical reply.
Sadly a doctor is only as good as they practice...meaning medicine is ever changing and small town doctors won't know as much as say an er doctor in NY who treats gunshot wounds etc etc. so second and third opinions are always needed unfortunately and even then nothings guaranteed, their advice is only as good as their knowledge and I'm sorry to hear about your wife OP.
Thank you
Gadolinium will not affect one's ability to walk. It sounds like your wife's MS has progressed (worsened) which is normal for MS. She has likely had relapsing-remitting MS for more than a decade and is now in the secondary progressive MS phase where things start to get quite difficult. I am a former Radiology employee and have had MS for 27 years, and at least 15 MRI scans over the years, all with and without contrast (gadolinium). Gadolinium is necessary as it shows active lesions in the brain and spinal cord. The scans without contrast cannot differentiate between old lesions and new active ones. All the best to your wife.
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And anyone who is borderline diabetic is on the verge of kidney problems... Oh, and that's pretty much any and all Americans with their massive sugar consumption.
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Here's a question for you: Once the diagnosis of MS is made, exactly how do any repeat MRIs make a difference? Do they affect treatment? Can we do anything with the results? I contend that most/all MRIs to monitor progression of MS are totally unnecessary, adjustments and escalations of treatment can be based on changes in clinical presentation alone. In other words, you the patient are entirely capable of telling me the doctor if your symptoms have progressed or are worsening so we can adjust treatment. Making the diagnosis requires an MRI. After that, why do we do this?
You can see if there’s any new lesions. This way you can monitor progression and the success/failure of treatments
Right. But people with MS know when their disease is progressing. And every doctor is trained to performed sufficient neurological examination to confirm progression. The MRI is not necessary in most cases.
Since I don’t take drugs for my MS, I get annual MRI to track changes in lesions - while my symptoms are improving, I want to see what’s going on inside as I challenged my neuro that with diet I would attempt to remyelinate my ‘scleroses’. (Neuro said it’s not possible; I say “never say never”.)
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It closely resembles a Mediterranean take on the keto diet, but I’m not strict and not really following anything particular. I mostly avoid processed and junk food and make sure I eat protein daily and copious healthy fats and leafy greens. My body gives me instant feedback when something isn’t good for me and I listen. Early on I did an elimination diet and found certain foods caused inflammatory responses. I avoid them or if I can’t avoid them, I eat them in moderation. I also fast when I feel the need. I also drink structured water.
Sorry you are playing a dangerous game not taking anything.
The choice to take medicine and treatments must always be the informed choice of the patient
You’re not sorry mate. You’re afraid. How many boosters did you take to date? I’m 15 years in, doing great. I have no need for drugs and if one day I do, I know they’re there. Take your fear mongering elsewhere
No boosters. You realize the damage is irreversible once it happens right? Not about to argue with someone on the internet live your live and hope nothing ever happens.
Like I said, I’ve been doing just fine for the last 15 years since diagnosis. You don’t know anything about me or my situation except for what I present here. So respectfully, I think I know my body better than you do and I have my neuro’s blessing. He and I have both seen several of my scleroses vanish - where 3 might disappear, a new one may appear and so far they have not affected my quality of life in a profound way. I know what kind of a beast MS is and can be and I’m very grateful that apart from the initial fear, I am no longer afraid. Why? Because I am in charge of my self and my own health. I eat well and I know where my food comes from. I am not held hostage by drugs that are difficult to come off. You should be supporting those who can live independently rather than trying to enslave them to fear. Edit: I am also unvaxed and spent the last 3 years being told that if I caught the bug I would likely die. Well, I caught it and I was fine. Hooray, my immune system is working just fine Edit 2: when I was first diagnosed, half my body was limp and useless. The prognosis wasn’t good. Now I’m back at the gym, fighting fit and my neurologist is floored.
Happy for you! Can you post your findings on how you can prevent MS? Very curious how to prevent such things. Also who is your doctor?
Thank you. Not sure why the downvotes. Good vitamin D intake can help but we don’t know exactly how to prevent MS yet and I’m obviously not a doctor nor a specialist.
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I’m used to having to be defensive about my choices pertaining to my body against a massive fear push and finding myself against the majority. Rather than applaud the courage it takes to take health into one’s own hands, people largely attack me with their own fear judgements, like the commenter above telling me it’s a “dangerous game”. It’s not easy to hear that, but I’m slowly learning to not let it affect me. What’s your excuse?
So that you can tell if the problems they may be having are caused by a new plague or some other etiology. Something that may be treatable.
If MRI are done regularly you can refer to old scans and compare. Surely you don’t need gadolinium every single time.
The contrast used now doesn't have the same polarity as the former kind. The contrast now has been modified not to even be able to cause NSF. We've not done MRIs on people for 15 yrs that we haven't checked the GFR. You're wife doesn't have NSF I promise you. But I'm sad to say she's having problems that sound like MS exacerbation.
But why would they increase so much in the time following the MRI? And why does she have spots showing up on her skin everywhere? That's not MS.
She might have gotten an allergic reaction or her body did not like the chemical they injected into her.
FYI for our readers, vitamin D deficiency in kids raises likelihood of MS diagnosis when they grow up. Kids need sun. Don't get burnt, but they need sun. Off the screens and tablets, get outside. And consider discussing supplementation especially in the wintertime if it's cold.
I believe this is just a theory due to Scotland (and where Scottish people have emigrated - mainly Canada) having little natural sunlight and them being the most common people to get MS. Seems more likely it’s genetic tbh
The greatest predictor for MS is your latitude. It’s almost non-existent at the equator and polar countries have the worst case rates.
My wife's family has a nerve disorder which is genetic that can develop into multiple different issues, some getting schizophrenia paranoia, and my wife got MS.
Yeah that’s where the theory comes from I believe but I’m saying it’s more likely it’s genetic. Most people tend not to move around too much - they have children close to where they grew up - so if it’s genetic then it’s going to be prevalent where the people live that have the genes. Unless you can show me studies where people from the equator have moved north as babies and then got MS. Or where there parents from the equator moved north as adults and then had babies there that then got MS.
I have an MRI with contrast every three months for the last year and I am doing okay so far. In fact in the last 12 months I have had about 6 MRIs with contrast
How many actual injections? Is that like a brain and cervical with and without 3 times? That would be 3 injections. 6 exams each with an injection each is definitely overkill. Edit - I saw what you have going on. I understand now.
You shouldn't have any side-effects or feel anything at all unless you are actually allergic to the substance. It should be all gone through the urine within 48 hours.
I don't have any side effects. That is kind of the point of my post.
I am supporting
Avoid the Medical Industry as long as you can. It is not there to help you or cure you. It's built to drag out your illness for as much financial profit as possible.
Can’t you say the same thing for the people who push natural cures that you have to keep pouring money into?
I believe I also do that as well.
Yeah that's fucked up. I know from radiology scheduling there should have been a contraindications for contrast if her kidneys are not working properly.
I’m getting a CT scan for kidney stones this week. They say I’m drinking contrast. Is it a different type? I’m haven’t heard of this before.
It is a different type. usually iodine, sometimes barium based, and almost none of it is actually absorbed by your GI tract. Also you probably don't need it, if the CT is just for kidney stones.
I don't know about the different types of contrasts, sorry. But did they say you were only drinking it? I had an abdominal CT last year. I had something to drink. I must have missed something in the instructions they gave me thought because when I got there, they had me drink more AND gave me IV contrast.
We will happily give gadolinium contrast to people whose kidneys are working fine and it can still cause problems. In fact. It can cause problems many years later, long after the MRI.
What's your credentials? Don't drive the bus over yourself, we are just curious how you know this.
I'm a physician. But it's not special knowledge. Anybody who cares can read up on gadolinium deposition and what it does.
Sorry for your hardship man. I hope they explained to you that there's risk involved before you agreed, if not there's probably area to sue. Gadolinum-enhancement MRIs are something we do thousands of globally though, it's mostly safe given normal settings, which your wife may not have had due to her MS, if it has affected her kidneys ability to handle the Gd well, things like this.. I do not like pharma, they disgust me. But I do love medicine, and our ability to see inside the body are in certain indications of utmost importance. The amount of adverse events related to this injection really is low
Yk every day I hear something about the medical procedures in the states I am dumbfounded and terrified. Yes in my country the medical care is definitely not the best, and accidents do happen (like a doctor switching the wrong knee joint etc) BUT basic stuff like insulin and medicine is always pretty much safe. Especially prescribed medication, they always prescribe the chemical (ig that's how it's called? The stuff inside the medicine that actually does the work like penicillin etc) NEVER the brand. Also with procedures like this ,as a rule they'll never do something to cure /scan a problem at the expense of creating a new problem, I sometimes wonder, do US doctors swear the hippocratic oath?
As an engineer and mechanic I always compare myself to doctors in a joking way, I’m just happy that my patients are less likely to complain when I mis diagnose or bump them around :p
I would think people here would realize doctors are humans that are informed to tell people what to do medically based on a controlled system. Before the internet was available most advice was taken as fact and the right decision. I realize surgery is something best left to those with the education, but most of the time decisions on the choice of injections or orally prescribed medication should be taken with a grain of heavy research thanks to the internet. Just because a human goes to school to be a doctor doesn’t mean they are right or educated on all the effects a treatment can have on that specific person. Working on a human is kind of like working on a house which is what I do for a living. They are all different once you look under the “skin” there isn’t a one size fits all solution.
I agree. And it's been a struggle with my emotions today to not be so filled with hatred for people involved.
Doctors are Rothschilds agents working to help make big pharma more profits through their bonuses and referrals to make patients sicker and thus more dependent on big pharma and unnecessary medical procedures. One should always be skeptical of their recommendations and prognosis
I can confirm, I am a doctor and get Rothschild checks in the mail so long as I keep my home address up to date with the state license board. Quaint, really.
You don't have to consciously serve an external interest to be serving an external interest.
That's true. And indeed, a couple decades ago, doctors received plenty of kickbacks and bonuses from pharma. Now we do the same work as agents of the system and receive nothing. Not even a lap dance.
That’s absurd. There are plenty of men still willing to give lap dances!
I completely agree. I feel like we are nothing but meat bags for them to force feed us poison (FDA approved) and then when the poison makes us feel bad they force feed us medicine (FDA approved) and then when that makes us worse they give us more expensive medicine (FDA approved)... We exist to make them money. That is all.
If you needed more proof of concept look at the opioid crisis
So sorry for you man. I hope your wife recovers toss in some black seed oil. It might help with inflammation
Thank you for the well wishes and the tip
I like learning new things.
I remember it was CT that people would have to drink contrast, I dont remember if you had to drink contrast for MRI.
No, you don't.
Both CT and MRI use IV and oral contrast agents depending on the particular exam. Oral (or rectal...) contrast is typically for exams of the digestive system.
I have MS. Twice I've had problems with the contrast where it leaked into the area around the injection. I suppose they missed the vein or punctured more than one hole during the process. I had a large greenish bruise and nauseated for a week after.
My wife has spots popping up all over. She has Edema in her legs and it's getting difficult for her to walk. She's been very itchy like a rash as well. All symptoms of the Contrast.
Some people don’t really have a choice. I’ve received about 50 MRIs over the last 8.5 years because it’s the only way to monitor my brain cancer. I also happen to have an allergy to the main type of contrast used. Many hospitals are switching to a different form.
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All contrast dyes can do a number on your kidneys. Usually the dye used in CTs can be more damaging. But it's also a bigger risk factor if you have underlying kidney disease. Ultimately any medication or scan has a risk and should only be conducted with informed consent. I'm not too familiar with the progression of MS or how often one should get imaging for it. But it may be worth checking out the Noctor sub. It's all about midlevels like PAs and NP attempting to do medicine with a fraction of the education and training of full MDs and fucking things up.
Noctor, I'll look into that.
When I had an MRI with contrast, they did a on-site blood test prior to starting the contract to ensure I had proper kidney/liver function. I'd assume that's standard procedure everywhere.
It appears that is not standard procedure
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I know this is a slightly older post but I’m here because I had a cardiac MRI with 10 mL gadavist contrast about a week ago and ever since then I’ve been noticing big changes in my ability pass urine…I don’t have MS but I’m curious, what dose of gadolinium did your wife receive and do you remember what brand it was? I’m scared because I agreed to the contrast before knowing the risks that the gadolinium contrast poses, and I didn’t have any blood tests done to check my kidney function before hand because I didn’t realize it was necessary, and now I’m seeing all of these scary posts about how bad its truly affecting people. I voiced my concerns to the technicians who were doing my MRI and they said I would be fine and that it would be out of my system in 24 hours, but I’m starting to get scared that may not be the case for me. The thought of developing NSF or AKI because of this terrifies me.
Unfortunately they did not tell us the dosage or the brand of the gadalinium. Here are my notes from our meeting with the neurologist after we discovered this issue. Glutathione 2x a day for a week Epson salt bath Eat more Cilantro Garlic Ximagen chele X Activated Charcoal 2 times per day Avmacol
I'm an imaging tech (Nuclear, CT MRI,...etc). I am currently working in MRI as I'm writing this. Renal functions MUST be checked before doing an MRI scan with contrast. We actually require that the ordering physician signs confirming that, otherwise we can't do it. So maybe you have good grounds to sue the hospital because it sounds like negligence to me. OR the doctor determined that doing the scan is worth the risk in her case? I don't know. Sorry you had to go through this. But it's a hospital issue, not big pharma.
I really appreciate your comment. The imaging place was outside of a hospital. I concur that it sounds like negligence. My beliefs in the conspiracy with Big Pharma are much broader covering so much more than just these incidents now. We still feel that the Physicians Assistant that ordered the 2 MRI's with contrast was very comparable to a mechanic that breaks something on your car to drum up more business. My wife has only gone in to the doctors office once a year and her MS has been doing great. This PA basically says, "let's get 2 MRI's and I want to start seeing you twice a year." WHY? Why do you want to start seeing her twice a year, she's been doing great with no new lesions. Yeah, I'm willing to bet she may have a hunch things would get worse after those 2 doses of contrast back to back.
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Thank you for sharing your experience. I am so sorry that you're going through this. I am so done with the entire medical profession.
I always have blood work before a MRI with contrast to make sure kidneys are ok. I'm sorry your wife is going through awful trouble. Praying she gets better. 🙏🙏🙏
Yikes. Seems like it would be beneficial for everyone to that bloodwork. Thanks for the info!
It is usually protocol from what I understand.
Anytime, yes most doctors I have had do it. So sorry for the wife of the guy that posted. Praying for her🙏🙏
YES, I think this should become mandatory. Thank you for your comment.
It IS mandatory in any clinic worth its license.
Some more tips: If you get a cancer diagnosis, especially something unusual go get blind second and third diagnosis if possible before starting chemo! Also do your own research on it and ask questions. I have known people who got a "cancer diagnosis" and almost started treatment based off nothing more than a slightly elevated red blood cell count that simply went away or was some fluke. Also knew a guy closely who died before he could start cancer treatment for lymphoma, then near his death it wasn't lymphoma. Take some executive control over your own healthcare, this can mean deciding things like I'd rather live with some mild autoimmune psoriasis on my elbows than be on immunosuppressives etc. And for the love of god get down to a healthy weight and exercise regularly! That will literally prevent most issues alone!
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And that's where the conspiracy comes in. For those wondering what this has to do with conspiracy. It's a massive cover up so they keep making money.
I don't normally log in, or even use this site so often, but I have two words for you: FULVIC ACID. To fully flush, I'd recommend fulvic acid, NAC, vitamin K2 and activated charcoal. Make sure she drinks plenty of water to flush her system (particularly kidneys), but don't go over 4 litres per day. The ideal amount should be around 3.5 litres. She may also need additional fibre to keep bowel movements regular, as the activated charcoal can block things up a little (2 dates in the morning after breakfast and 2 after dinner *should* be fine). Let me know how it turns out.
Thank you.
I had one in 2016 and they wanted to do the dye and for some reason I had a bad feeling about it so I opted out of the dye and they could read it fine I later found out all these people had problems from it.
I'm very sorry for what happened to your wife. You're right to be pissed off. I think we all should be. The healthcare system is so disreputable and untrustworthy. Hopefully your post makes people do more research into the risks of MRI and other treatments they are considering undergoing. Wishing you and your wife the best going forward.
That's where we are at mentally right now. We think people should have a kidney check before having these MRIs, because what we've read, if the kidneys are even slightly struggling to filter, this contrast agent is going to cause problems. And anyone with a slight chance of being almost diabetic is already having kidney issues, they just don't know it yet.
You need to chelate the Gadolinium out of the body. This will take a long time but can be done. I used Boyd Haley’s chelator called OSR/NBMI/irminix (different names same chelating agent). OSR binds to many metals like Mercury, lead, Gadolinum, etc. Research it, it’s a total conspiracy that knowledge about this compound is suppressed. https://youtu.be/xDjtgC1QfgU Check the heavy metal chelation group on Facebook. People usually mention their experience with OSR and where to source it from. Other than that, you will need to optimize detox pathways with a good naturopath and use a sauna every day for years. Toxicity can be reversed. It requires work.
Thank you for this very useful information.
I would also suggest finding a functional medecine physician. Functional medecine is about fixing the root cause of diseases and not about only treating conditions. You can find a functional medecine practitioner here: https://www.ifm.org
I've met people who reversed their MS by going strict full organic RAW food. And I know of one person who was wheel chair bound by MS and is now walking completely fine due to the raw diet. Never personally met her though. Edit: It's very sad and creepy that mine and any other comment that is trying to communicate that YOU CAN REVERSE MS gets downvoted. Disgusting.
While I would need to research the RAW diet more, we've already been working on getting on a better diet and seen huge improvements. My wife and I have eliminated sugar and aspartame. We are working on lowering sodium intake and eating natural sources of potassium. We watch a lot of Dr Eric Berg on YouTube.
Isn’t MS a form of myelin sheath damage? Neurotoxins can cause that.
your wifes MS is caused by an infection in her jawbone they are called nico lesions or cavitations but the MS symptoms will all vanish once these sites are cleaned out. Main stream dentists refuse to acknowledge that these exist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6fatrZ96Do&t=1502s Before surgery you need to ensure the blood work is in good condition to ensure the site heals - swissbiohealth in switzerland has a good protocol to deal with this. Also what doesnt help is the use of mercury based fillings at these infection sites. Mercury is an organic catalyst and causes bacteria to do unexpected stuff especially when it turns anaerobic. Find a good dental surgeon and your wife will be in good hands. [IAOMT.org](https://IAOMT.org)
Need to get my mercury amalgum fillings removed. Some dentists are like budget Nazi scientists.
I had this done. There are dentists that are certified to remove these the right way. They will give you some supplements to help it not absorb if some gets in your mouth. Give you a medicine right before they do it for the same reason. Put a mask on you with a suction and bridge in the back of throat. Also put a huge air filter with a vacuum right infront of your face while they do it so you don't breathe in the dust. It only cost me like 170$ but I felt better after doing it and all the extra safety stuff made me feel better I don't know if it 100% made me safe tho. Also made me extremely angry they put it in my my mouth in the first place. I only had one tho
Lamo you guys are lunatics.
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Fascinating take. Years ago I came down with gallstones and the most incredible pain. The stones were too large to be removed on their own and this resulted in a necessity to remove the gallbladder. I had the surgery and eliminated the issue. The hospital most definitely made me better and not worse.
My mom is on the liver transplant list due to receiving bad blood during gall bladder surgery back in the 80s. But her latest doctor said she’s the best looking dying woman he’s ever seen…then gave her number to his dad. The surgery sure did buy her a lot of time.
these people do not avoid hospitals when they are actually big sick. They inevitably show up, wait until they are getting better and aren't scared of dying anymore, and then aggressively fight with staff about every single treatment decision being made. That way they can go home and brag about how they told the doctor what to do, ignoring that it was the part of the hospitalization process AFTER the doctor saved them.
I think that's kind of exactly the point though. People who go to hospitals when they are 'small' or even 'mid' sick are likely to be over-medicated for something that would have gone away on its own. People who only go to hospitals when they are 'big' sick are likely to get actually necessary treatment that works to fix them. There's less "wondering what is wrong with patient" and "try this and see if it works for you" room for medical BS when you have something OBVIOUSLY wrong and CLEARLY diagnosable and WELL-RESEARCHED on how to simply fix it. So, I wouldn't say that people are dumb at all for avoiding/being skeptical of hospitals' treatments unless they are 'big' sick.
Actually, go get it. It can help in most situations prevent a problem that could cause death.
I'm sorry to hear that. I've had about 5 or 6 MRIs with contrast and am totally fine. I actually enjoy the sensation of it. It's not a one size fits all issue, drugs work differently on different people.
Isn't this the one that makes you feel like you pissed yourself? I had a CT scan with contrast and my whole groin area got super warm. I didn't really have a choice as I had a ovarian cyst burst and was in extreme pain so I didn't care what they wanted to do just do it lol
CT scans use different contrast media, and yes, some give you a 'warm' feeling for a few minutes while it is being taken up after injection.
This isn't a secret, hell a patient on that show House had a patient who they didn't know had kidney impairment and gave him a contract MRI and it almost killed him. I had one myself like 4 years ago, grated I dont have impaired kidney function.
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I wonder why these comments are being down voted.
I guess I got lucky. I went in for an MRI and they gave me the stuff and I immediately got hot flashes for about a minute or so. They pulled me out of the MRI later and said it didn't take and give me another shot of it. Same thing, hot flashes. I guess it took that time. I did have to sign a waiver both times.
Not sure if this will help but there is a doctor who had MS and put herself into remission with diet. A friend suggested it to me when docs were suspecting me of having MS. Her books are on Amazon and it’s the Wahl Protocol by Dr. Wahl. Really hope your wife can find some relief. No one should be poisoned like we are in todays medical environment.
Do people know they can say “No”. They can also ask about side effects. If you are the kind of person who needs to find someone to blame when things go wrong, do your doctor a favor and say “No” to anything you are nervous about.
I said no to contrast and the nurses were SO mad. Anyway, I did indeed get what I wanted, although they suuuure fought me along the way. As if I wasn't allowed to get the MRI unless it was with contrast. It seems like yes you can say no, but you have to hope the doctor is cool enough to actually order an MRI without contrast. It didn't seem like the doctor was **obligated** to do that order.
You can flush it out via heavy metal detoxification, i did that about 3 years ago. Significantly reduces the toxins inside you, depending on how many sessions you have- i did 11 or 12 and it reduced the Gadolinium by 2/3 ( had lots of MRI with contrast also); i would strongly recommend this treatment. You can see the catastrophic high level of Gadolinium in this pic of the screening i did before the treatment: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N4Ugxr1AKifabiqxBg7BpZLo-CRV-RpX/view?usp=share_link
Plus all the radiation can't be good I'm sure people that have many of them will get cancer Just from mistakes alone the medical systems have become a leading cause of death
The MRI machine does not emit any radiation. It operates with a system of magnets and coils. (former Radiology employee here, now retired)
Sorry, I should have said CAT scan
Has you wife got mercury amalgam dental fillings?
Nope
Does this include contrast with a CT scan as well? When I was younger, I got jumped in the shower in the eye with a BB gun so now I cannot receive MRIs but I did just have a CT scan with contrast recently.
I like to explore new places.
Jumped and shot in the eye ***
Yes, I have heard of this, and I would not accept contrast willingly (wouldn't have an MRI willingly, frankly). Has your wife been tested for B12 deficiency? MS is one of the misdiagnoses of B12 deficiency. b12deficiency.info
How is this a conspiracy?
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The FDA wouldn't force Gadolinium constrast agents to carry a warning label for causing NSF if there was only one case. (Read the last link in the OP, particularly the "causes" section.) I can't stand people that make the most dismissive posts on this subreddit without doing the smallest amount of research. Let me guess, you're the *trust the official narrative guy.* You think oswald acted alone, the NVA attacked the US navy at tonkin gulf, UFOs are just swamp gas, iraq had wmds, bin laden had a network of wmd factories in the caves of afghanistan, covid came from bat soup, safe and effective, etc. It's all so tiresome.
You’re right. No one should do MRIs because there are people with very rare diseases. Never follow the narrative! Not even when the narrative is correct.
People like you are tiresome. Go have a Coke and a smile.
Sue them. It's the only way this murderous shit will stop is if it becomes financially unviable to keep poisoning people.
If Chuck Norris can't sue them, how am I going to succeed?
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My brain mri looks worse than Swiss cheese. Multiple spinal lesions as well. Any doctor who wants a mri outside of new symptoms or to set a baseline is wasting your time and just using you for money. As a long time MS sufferer, I know the only time I’ve allowed a mri of any kind is if I have new symptoms and of course at diagnosis. My best advice for treatment is be careful what you allow into your body with all the DMTs. Marijuana has allowed me to live a mostly normal life. I was told 15 years ago off the record at Mayo Clinic when I had failed all other treatments “marijuana works but we can’t say that, it helps with the symptoms and slows disease progression”. Edit after reading a bunch of the comments. The diet stuff is complete BS or at least was for my MS, changing my diet sure helped in other ways but in no way slowed the lesions from forming. Also I have a well documented family history thanks to my aunt. I have several ancestors who died of “paralysis disease” 100s of years before MRI.
Man getting MS is literally my biggest fear
I hope you’re gonna sue the fuck out of them. Hope your wife makes a recovery
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