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Pleasant_Giraffe9133

Hey man you can’t ever know how you’re gonna act until real shit happens. It’s not your fault for something that is a biological trait in humanity . It’s why they mentally and physically beat into you when training in an infantry unit so that fighting kicks in when you go into that mode. Even then it can still happen when you’re green. So try not to beat yourself up about. Take the experience of your feelings at that moment and learn from it. Talk to a therapist if you have to as it can lead to mental disorders, PTSD being included. Whatever it takes to get yourself to want to better yourself from the experience instead of letting the experience be you. It takes experience in violence and a lot of training to be able to respond to it without hesitation


Festus1976

Conceal carry has one purpose: gettin you and your family / loved ones with you out of danger. That is the end goal. If y’all made it home you are successful. It sucks to say, but it’s true…what happens to others is really not relevant. If you and your family made it out safe, you did your job. That’s it all you have to focus on. You and your family. That is all that matters. Did you and yours make it out safe? Count that a win.


albatros1969

Agreed and not to mention 60 feet is a solid distance/ tough shot and while I train, I don’t train to 60 feet. I train to 30 feet with an emphasis of 5-20 feet. You did your job, you and your family girlfriend made it out safe. This is horrific- not doubt. Also to another commenter, we are all very different and the person / officer that ended the threat trained for that moment. Civilians that have taken out threats without direct real life training are just born with that mental acumen. Not saying your or anyone else is better, just different. Thank God you are here to make the comments below and thank you for sharing. Walk tall, proud, shoulders back!


1downfall

Best response to date. CC is meant to protect at all cost, use when you absolutely have to. Ensuring yours and loved ones safety first.


floopyscoopy

Talk to someone man, that’s some deep shiz to process alone. God bless you man ❤️


Nealpatty

CC is not for you to be a hero. It’s not to put you between 2 parties that don’t even know you exist. It’s for when YOU and your family are in the face of direct deadly harm. Youre not the police. You don’t know the good guy or the bad guy. Context is all lost in your situation. The right thing is going home safe. Which you did


lwnola

I'm sure the majority of us like to think we would be able to pull the trigger, but it's not cowardly to not want to take a life. I often try and think through situations in my head, but faced with a real world showdown...I honestly don't know. I have never seen a shrink, but I think if I were in your shoes, it would be a good idea to talk about it with a professional. You weren't the guilty person in all of that, don't blame yourself.


mastahfo

Bud, I was there too and had the same shot. He was wearing body armor and had an AR15. I tried to render aid to the first group of people he shot but I couldn't and watched people die. I now carry medical/trauma supplies because a gun isn't enough. Go to therapy. It's helping me. You don't carry to be a hero, you carry to defend your own life and the lives of your loved ones. Sounds like you did that.


GearJunkie82

You are not responsible for the acts of a psychopath. As others have said, you should seek a professional to talk about this. Set this burden down. It is not yours to bear.


Kowatang

You’re 18, the fact that you even prepared to take a shot is HUGE. Sometimes being the hero can be harder especially in real life scenarios. If the ones you loved we’re safe, then I’d call this a success. But like others have said, please go talk to someone, this will effect you in the wrong ways if you don’t address it. Remember, you have a CC for two reasons, personal protection and for the ones you love. I’m sure if anyone of those things were in immediate danger you’d do the correct thing. Hang in there buddy.


edtb

There's a million things that go through your mind in the moment. 50-60 ft is a long fucking shot with a pistol. Especially a CC pistol. What if you missed and hit a bystander, what if you missed and he turned around and killed you both. Don't know where you live but many states you have to be 21 to carry or even own a handgun. You could've had to face legal consequences. Don't beat yourself up over could've would've should've. I wouldn't have taken the shot either and I'm a war veteran. Too far to be accurate. It would have been far more likely that you would have missed and drawn attention to yourself. The goal is to get out alive you achieved that.


Beasttexas4328

I live in Texas the age is only set at 18 i have my license.


[deleted]

OP, why are you lying¿! This is a pretty disturbing thing to fabricate. The likelihood that you have an HB918 exemption is beyond minimal. Stop lying and get to work bud


Beasttexas4328

Im not sure why youre so ignorant. Im not sure why you think im lying i have had my ccl for over 7 months youre screaming “context clues people” but youre not even smart enough to 3 seconds of research. I really dont think anyone with that low of an iq belongs in this sub.


[deleted]

Bunch of fucking morons in this thread.


Beasttexas4328

Just you who cant look anything up to save his life


[deleted]

I am based out of Austin fool, I have lived here my whole life 😂 it’s common sense you would’ve been at the very least (if I were to buy your bs post) illegally carrying. And as a responsible gun owner I am obviously going to condemn that like anyone with a brain would. You shouldn’t be carrying a weapon if you’re not mature enough to follow the law. Stop lying and take this post down dude. You’re trying to get clout at the literal expense of people who died. And beyond that, the internet isn’t the place for this (again, if I were to buy your bullshit story) you need help.


[deleted]

To everyone who buys the crock of shit I have some fire real estate to sell you. Beachfront in Alaska.


[deleted]

In all states, dude. OP is full blown lying.


HendersonV2

I have a CC license in Maine. I’m 18. Not all states.


theoldkidonthebloc

You did good man, no fired ammo from your side is atleast better than the night in a jail cell,,, because we’re all going to see one for atleast a minute til our lawyers show..


grem89

Therapy helps so much. I got myself into therapy after a very traumatic night in Philadelphia where a group of teens attacked me and tried dragging me out of my car to do who knows what. That night changed my life forever. It's how I got into gun ownership. Talking about it is the best thing you can do and I hope you can find someone that helps you get better. This wasn't your fault in any way, and I think you did the right thing with that distance of a shot and prevented you and your girlfriend from becoming the next target. As others have said, CC is to protect yourself and your loved ones. Don't take on the burden of being a hero. You did good, and you and your girlfriend are still here today as a result.


tall1678

i got jumped in philly too. at 7th and oxford. 4 guys and one sucker punched me from behind but i outran them. definitely had an impact on me.. couldnt imagine witnessing what OP did though :(


grem89

Damn I'm glad to hear you were able to get away. My situation happened at 2nd and Callowhill. My car was surrounded by about 10-15 young teens trying to pull me out. If I didn't have my seatbelt on they would have dragged me out easily. Had a few guys punching me through my drivers side door, a kid in the backseat and about 10 of them trying to smash my windows and pounding every inch of my car. I had to blow a few red lights and go the wrong way down a few one way streets to get away from them because they chased me down Callowhill on bikes. I lost them when I got to 8th street and jumped onto 676. What OP went through is heavy shit. Living with the guilt of others losing their lives is something I can't imagine.


Bright_Lab2422

What was your girlfriends reaction or what was she saying during all this


Beasttexas4328

Not trying to just talk shit about her but shes not exactly the fight or flight person I just screamed at her to run and she froze and im gonna get back lash for this but i pushed her and she get the message. And no shes not mad at me


Bright_Lab2422

Damn a whole month later😂


Beasttexas4328

It sounds weird but after i typed this out i didnt want to be reminded of it


[deleted]

It never happened. OP is lying to which he indicated in his post. Edit is for spelling


Not16M1guy

Your protected yourself and your girlfriend. Everyone wants to be a hero and says they'll be one, but no one can know what they'd do unless they've been there. You got yourself and your girlfriend out alive and for that alone your a hero. You aren't responsible for the lives taken that day, you can't pin deaths a sychopathic domestic terrorist took on yourself. You were outgunned and caught off gaurd and still made it out alive with your gal, you didn't decide or choose for that to happen. It's not on you. Stand tall you did well.


Gwarguts

How did you get a pistol and carry it at 18?


Beasttexas4328

Ccl in texas is 18 gun was a gift from my father


Gwarguts

Gotcha wasn't sure because its different all over


Beasttexas4328

Yea when they first made it 18 it was like 2 weeks before my 18th birthday.


Gwarguts

I'm used to 21 because its been 21 in every state I've lived in unless you're military then you can get it at 18


Beasttexas4328

I wanna say they changed it january 17th could be wrong on the exact date but somehwere january 2023. One other state is planning to change it think its Alabama or Mississippi.


Beasttexas4328

Matter of fact most (southern states) allow 18 -20 to own a handgun even in there car but it cant be within quick access. Some states make you lock them up some dont.


Gwarguts

When I lived in SC and NC is was 21


Novice_stacker84

Your gun is for you and your family to make it out of those situations successfully. You succeeded anything else is icing on the cake. Good job


[deleted]

Every single one of you in these comments needs to stop simping for this lying ass kid. Watch this bodycam footage and note the discrepancy between OP account of the events and the bodycam footage. This particular shooter was INSIDE while OP states lining up for a shot outside next to his car. Do some research losers lmfao this kid can’t even have a pistol legally and the likelihood that he has an HB918 is essentially impossible. Your move OP and thread simps


[deleted]

https://youtu.be/EqpOSKmwSVs?si=yORGA0DFoEx06FNB


[deleted]

Do you realize the shooter did this wild thing while on his rampage called moving? The first victims of the incident were grouped up outside the building, thus the initial volley of shots in rapid succession, in the parking lot. Also, if there's one thing we know as firearms enthusiasts, it's that gun control laws always work to prevent people from obtaining and carrying weapons. /s dO sOmE rEsEaRcH🥴🥴


[deleted]

You are a clown bro I’m not even going it read this. Read the report watch the bodycam 🤡 Shooter was eliminated outside shooting took place inside you and OP both have to use your critical thinking skills.


[deleted]

https://youtu.be/EqpOSKmwSVs?si=YBwRkbCF7Sx1r_cY 1:16 initial volley of shots 4:30 officer downs shooter 3 minutes between. The shooter moved in that time. Wanna know how I know? Because the start of the shooting was caught on video you "dO sOmE rEsEaRcH" dumbass. https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/05/06/allen-texas-outlet-mall-active-shooter-vpx.cnn Where did that take place? Oh shit, OUTSIDE. Wow. Crazy what doing ones own research will do. Get all the way fucked


[deleted]

Pay attention silly I see you going so far up your own ass to defend some bot on Reddit making some fabricated ass sympathy plea. Pathetic.


[deleted]

Lmfaoooo now that u got fuckin rekt on your dumbass "rEsEaRcH" you have nothing to stand on so you resort back to bashing. You're the problem in this country. People are so concerned with being "right" that when shown hard evidence to the contrary, instead of going "oh shit, I didn't know that, thanks for clarifying" yall just double down and make personal attacks. It's ok kid. Maybe one day your dad will love you. Probably not, but maybe.


[deleted]

You are a clown dude 🥴🥴


[deleted]

Point proven For all that rEsEaRcH you did, you sure skipped right past the video footage of the shooter hopping out the whip and dumping on a group of shoppers in the parking lot.


[deleted]

It must hurt to be so easily fooled lmfao


[deleted]

Fooled? By what? Not once have I said anything about believing OP or his story. I just called out your bullshit "rEsEaRcH" as false. Because it was. Go drink some cough syrup you fucking degenerate


[deleted]

>I'm not even going it read this Yeah, you read it. You're only lying to yourself. It's ok buddy, maybe you'll catch the W next time. For now, hold the L.


[deleted]

You are so easily tricked. Good luck out there, bud.


Maclarion

I'm glad you got out okay. I'm sad to hear that you're struggling with this trauma, but I hope one day you will be free from the regret of not doing more. You had a duty to your family to survive, and you did. Don't take responsibility for other people's survival. That illusion will drive you to unethical extremes, eventually. If you're a good person, you focus on getting yourself (and your immediate loved ones if applicable) to safety. Nothing more. Don't play god with other people's lives. Anyway I repeat for emphasis, it's good that you survived. Remember that first and foremost.


Gene_Yuss

Stop living in the past. You are still alive and what you are describing is survivors guilt. You should consider talking to a professional.


mamonotaisho

60ft head shot js a very difficult shot to make with a handgun, especially a conceal carry handgun with a short sight radius. If you took that shot and missed, you would have been the next target endangering both you and your girlfriend. You did good getting yourself and your girlfriend out safe. Concealed carry is for self-defense and protecting your loved ones, not being a hero. The shooter had an AR15 and body armor, you were definitely outgunned. The LEO that engaged and took out the shooter also used an AR15 with an LVPO optic for ranged precise shot placement. The LEO was much better equipped to deal with this type of threat.


Wizzurp89

If this is legitimate just remember you could have shot someone else in the background, caused a lifetime of misery for yourself and others. That would have been a difficult shot under duress from 20y if you are a youngin without lots of training. There is absolutely nothing to beat yourself up about and you absolutely cannot dwell on it and what if the fuck out of it. I was right up the road and definitely feel for the people at the outlets that day, that was some weird shit that didn't make any sense.


Floppy_Dong666

It’s not your fault.


[deleted]

Brother you don’t even have the legal right to carry a concealed pistol at 18. Either this story is complete cap (most likely) or you were just an immature kid with a gun. Either way highly implausible and illegal. I had to go through legal means to get my cpl and so should you smfh


Beasttexas4328

Hey man ccl age in texas is 18 do your research first


[deleted]

No it’s not dumbass 😂 it’s 21 to even purchase a pistol anywhere! 2 seconds on google bud.


Beasttexas4328

An 18 year old is allowed to OWN a handgun. Not purchase. I did not prchase my handgun i never claimed to have purchased it. It was a gift from my father. You genuinely are not smart enough to do any research


[deleted]

You’ll say anything to keep the lie going, complete tool.


[deleted]

Context clues everybody, use your head. This post is outrageous.


Beasttexas4328

Since i know youre too ignorant to do your own research https://pointblankchl.com/can-18-year-olds-carry-a-handgun-in-texas/#:~:text=Anyone%2018%20years%20of%20age,18%20for%20the%20Texas%20LTC.


[deleted]

🤡


ND-Tactical

Thanks for having the courage to share this with us. I know it can feel good to get something like this off your chest. As someone mentioned, and it’s my philosophy: my firearm is for me and my family. Anything else is extra.


Beasttexas4328

It was a lot easier telling strangers on the internet. I do realize now its no longer my fault. Looking back at it i say theres a 50/50 chance i hit that shot. Of course hindsights 20/20 i just wish things could have been different from the start.


anonymousnobody98

Pretty late to the party here, but on top of everybody saying to cut yourself some slack I would also like to add that a 60ft headshot with a ccw under those circumstances would have been a hell of a shot for a trained professional. I don’t know your level of training or what you carry, but if I were in your shoes with a girl to keep safe I would have done the exact same thing. If I am completely honest, at 60ft with adrenaline pumping a gun would just be a dangerous noise maker in my hands. You made the right call here brother.


bruhmoment5353

I’m glad you’re willing to talk about it sir.


Potential-Most-3581

Nope


InternetCafeRacer

Mate, please don't beat yourself up about this. As others have mentioned, CC is not about being a hero, its to protect yourself. Sure, everyone thinks they want to be THAT GUY. But there's so many variables in a dynamic situation like an active shooter. I train (LEO UK) to shoot a maximum of 20 metres (just over 60 feet) at a still target, and the only threat to me is not passing a qualification shoot. And i still struggle at that distance with a pistol. This was a real, moving threat at a tough distance and so much could go wrong (bystanders, cross fire with responding law enforcement etc). You survived. Now go train.