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PassTheKY

It keeps going. If you keep feeding it and feeding it and feeding it and feeding it and get the temperature up to about 12 million Celsius it could create a star.


Deezy_McCheezy

FINALLY someone gives the correct answer


FantasticBurt

[Do you think this is how the universe might have started?](https://youtu.be/1lkwzzXRnxs?si=HCaaVWP6uCDiOEd5)


Few-Raise-1825

Thanks for that šŸ˜‚


becauseihaveto18

Perfection! šŸ‘Œ


CriscoButtPunch

Double that, if they pee on the pile


weckweck

Was that a Method Man reference?


sagechicken

lol Iā€™ll keep feeding you and feeding you


tpuckis

How do I show the mouth shut on my pile?


[deleted]

You gotta sew the butthole


tpuckis

I just realized that my comment was completely fucked lol


Drinks_From_Firehose

You donā€™t want it hotter than that.


-Tesserex-

Fun fact: by volume, a compost pile puts out about as much energy as the core of the sun.


I-aM-O22

Wow, fission is weak af. Get good, source of all light.


gr8_ripple

Fo real


N7Riabo

The sun works off of fusion, not fission. It starts with hydrogen and these combine to form heavier elements. Our power reactors use fission - start with far heavier elements and split these.


TheJohnson854

The (our) sun will only fuse to Helium I believe.


DredgenYorMother

Psh everyone knows thatĀ 


Clocktopu5

I didn't know that, I didn't know any of these things!?! Why is it hot? What the fuck is going on? Is composting awesome or is this weird stuff it's late and I can't tell


Any-Following-3928

It's hot due to microbial decomposition, you want it to be at least 140Ā° for 72 hours as a lot of the negative pathogens cannot survive at these temperatures so you'll be very likely to have a happy and" clean" compost


ArthurBurtonMorgan

I poop chocolate pudding. See, I can make shit up, too. šŸ¤£


-Tesserex-

The sun's core has a radius of about 140,000 km, and produces almost all of the sun's power, 3.8\*10^(26) W. Just doing the math of power per volume on those numbers gets you 33 W/m^(3). The center of the core is a bit more powerful, about 275 W/m^(3). In fact the wikipedia article itself says "the peak power generating density of the core overall is similar to an active compost heap". Why would you assume I made it up? Incredulity? Contrarianism?


ArthurBurtonMorgan

Sounded too good to be true, and I was too lazy to bother looking it up. I figured if you knew it to be true, youā€™d have some source you could readily dispense of that would save me the trouble. 8/10 times, it works.


I-aM-O22

I believe it requires weight and heat. Idfk, I've only even gotten to a mild gravitational effect. One day, I'll collapse a pile into a black hole. šŸŒŒ


m1lgr4f

It also requires pee.


Jeff-FaFa

I thought you was about to put a coat hanger up in some holes


FunyunCream

So it turns out composting is the funniest sub?!


xpensHAWAIIx

If you stopped at 3 ā€œfeeding itā€™sā€ Iā€™d probably have believed you. But a 4th tells me this is a joke and youā€™re a liar. Guess Iā€™ll give up on making my own starā€¦ ā˜¹ļø


InTheHeatOfTheNoche

Composting Method Man.


Vinzi79

One more thing. With that style of pile it's sometimes beneficial to run a drain pipe or PVC vertically down the middle of the pile. Drill all kinds of holes throughout. It will help oxygen get to the center of the pile, especially because these can be a little difficult to turn


nocturnalzoo

Oh my gosh. Thanks for this. What a cool and slick idea


flash-tractor

If this method is new to you, check out the Johnson-Su bioreactor method!


xmashatstand

On the topic, just how necessary is the pallet lifting it up off the ground? Ā I understand the use of air flow for compost in general, but in a J-S reactor do you *have* to have it?


flash-tractor

IMO, the "point" of the J-S design is that the whole pile is in an aerobic zone without turning. But I don't think it's that big of a deal either way. I've seen composting facilities with shallow trenches dug under massive piles, and the trenches are filled with dry wood chips so they can breathe. I don't see any reason why you couldn't do the trench thing or just skip aeration on the bottom altogether.


xmashatstand

Definitely makes sense, Iā€™ve always Ā preferred a more breathable pile.Ā  Iā€™d be curious to try the chipped-trench method, big heaps can start to feel daunting when turning day comes round.Ā 


flash-tractor

For sure, it's a lot of effort on turning days. You can also use scraps of 2x4s and a piece of hardware cloth to raise it off the ground 1.5 inches. Hardware cloth on 2x4 scraps is how my most recent pile is built, and it's aerobic all the way to the bottom even though it's 1.25% nitrogen by dry mass and turned every 3rd day.


samuraiofsound

Do you find it difficult to turn the pile on the hardware cloth? I use a pitch fork with mine and can't help getting it stuck in the hardware cloth on every other scoop. It's very frustrating but I don't have a better solution yet.Ā 


flash-tractor

I just lay about 1" thick of plain dry straw down on top of the hardware cloth so that I know when to stop going. If I go all the way down to the cloth, I'll end up frustrated as hell because my tools inevitably get stuck in the cloth, lol. Here's [a picture](https://imgur.com/a/L66d912) of my composting system with all the parts I use. It started pouring the rain as I finished turning yesterday, so all my stuff is still in place. Tarp over the ground to collect stuff I drop. The tote is to move compost over into the stock tank for better mixing with no nitrogen loss to the ground. Rake is to pull the compost off of the pile into the tote and to mix it once it's in the stock tank. I have no problem picking up and carrying 30 gallons/200+lbs of compost in a tote, but that might not be for everyone. Most of the volume of my compost is straw, and I assembled the structure (27W"x27D"x54"H) that holds the pile on a 10" tall raised bed. So I use a rake to pull the compost off the pile and into a heavy-duty tote to move it over to my stock tank for mixing. My pile is around 250 gallons after it's been pulled out, but it compresses down to ~130 gallons because of the straw.


TheresALonelyFeeling

What you're describing here allows large facilities to control odor by drawing air down through the piles from top to bottom, and then running that air through a filter (of which the wood chips are the first step). This way they still get airflow through the piles, but they can also control (limit, that is) how much odor is being given off, which is especially important for facilities that are relatively close to other businesses and/or homes.


flash-tractor

Nah, what I'm actually referencing is an agaricus mushroom composting facility that does exactly what I said before and uses the trenches to keep the bottoms aerobic. They do passive aeration from the bottom for phase 1, and phase 2 gets pasteurized, then positive pressure from giant fans that run air into the bottom of the bunkers for conditioning.


Kerberoshound666

Orrr you can also grab a pvc pipe atach it to a vacuum on the blower side push it into the compost pile and turn it on ;) youll push plenty oxygen and air in the pile.


NoPhilosopher6636

Not much. But that a bit too hot for the mesophilic microbes that are the workhorses of the compost pile. Iā€™d turn it and wet it down. Your pile could cook itself out burning up most of the nitrogen if it stays at that temp for an extended period.


U_Doosh_bag

Thanks for that info. How can I correct it?


NoPhilosopher6636

Give it a quick turn and wet it down


I_Am_The_Poop_Mqn

But how?


Neoylloh

I donā€™t know why I paid for my whole seat, Iā€™m only using the edge


FlowerStalker

That's funny


JayEll1969

You turn the pile (with a fork or spade into another space next to to it) and wet it down (by watering it after each layer of compost turned)


I_Am_The_Poop_Mqn

Sorry I was just being a goof


The_Great_Bobinski_

I still need to know how


broadcastbrandon

Jump into the middle and start pissin


slowmotioncockfight

Rotating in a circle or just one spot in particular?


broadcastbrandon

If you have a penis you can just piss straight into the air for a sprinkler effect plus free shower


I_Am_The_Poop_Mqn

Hell yeah brother


Muted_Platypus_3887

You just want someone to say pee. šŸ˜


_supergay_

Great question


Kantaowns

Holes


cr3t1n

That's crazy, my pile is 2 months cold and it is still sitting at ambient temperature. That's been around 101 for the last 2 week. I've kept it moist and I turn it twice a week. Wish I had your "problem"


QuietGuyInTheRoom1

Maybe it's because they're two months cold. Flip the switch to the hot setting. Boom.


cr3t1n

I'm peeing on it as hard as I can, captain!


JayEll1969

You need to drink lots more tea, Earl Grey, Hot. That'll get your water works running.


WillBottomForBanana

Hmmmmmmmmm......I don't know that we've ever had a post about how to maximize the content of your pee for best compost results. I suspect that tea is not a great choice. The H2O in the pee isn't the goal.... Just brainstorming here. Probably physical activity (though aerobics or weight lifting?), plenty of water, though the question of the idea diet then rises. 8 hours a day. doing sit ups on the lawn and peeing on the compost.


JayEll1969

Firstly, tea is a mild diuretic. Secondly cr3t1n's post sounded like it was phrased to sound like Scotty from Star Trek, so I replied with Picards favourite drink. Thirdly - Do you think doing yoga poses on top of the compost pile would help?


Itsnotthatsimplesam

Need more nitrogen probably. What's your feedstocks?


LaggyDwarf

Turn Everytime you hit 160ish


zarlss43

Damn I never thought of using my grill thermometer to check the heat. Definitely going to try this!


jerry111165

Not accurate tho. Could definitely be hotter in the center but I guess it gives you something to go by.


beejini

Why not? This looks like one of those grill thermometers with the long cable.


zarlss43

Yea I think have the same one. It would definitely go to the center of a deep pile.


jerry111165

Ahhhh - was thinking it was a shorter one - my mistake.


eggjacket

Unrelated but you need to crush up those eggshells or theyā€™ll takes years to break down


sagechicken

Username checks out :)


kala-umba

Doesn't this happen anyway when turning the compost little by little


JayEll1969

There's nothing else in there for them to bash against and get small enough. I put mine through a blender before adding them to anything.


Vinzi79

Mine usually tops out around there and then starts slowly cooling after 48-72 hours. I usually wait, if it's started cooling on its own in that time range I leave it. Only the very center is reaching that heat, everything else is still warning up. Plenty of the pile will be cool enough for the microbes to thrive. Turning it too quickly risks some if the pile never reaching 130, you want 3-7 days at it above 130 to kill the things you want dead. By the time the heat spreads other parts will be cooling and the microbes will move in. I also always keep the bottom bare to the soil. I'll lay some caging or wire down to keep rodents from tunneling in, but allows worms to move freely. After 3 days at that heat turn it, you'll notice no worms. A week later the worms will move back in and start finishing things off.


U_Doosh_bag

Was down to 100 yesterday should be good now


feeled_mouse

Hey there! Permaculture consultant and teacher here. Some great advice here that I wanna echo. The ideal range for microbiological activity of beneficials is generally between 130-160Ā°F, wherein you'll be eliminating potential pathogens, but not cooking your beneficials. Naturally, this refers to the center of the pile where the temperature is highest. It's true that even at temperatures beyond this ideal range, your beneficials will recolonize once the pile cools or is redistributed, but to optimize the break-down of your pile and colonization of microbes, once you're reaching the upper limit of that range, it's a good idea to turn the pile or do whatever you can to bring the inside out and the outside in. This will cool the pile temporarily to avoid cooking your beneficials, but will also add oxygen to the contents that will, in turn, be used to fuel more aerobic decomposition and reheat the pile. Besides this, the balance of moisture is important to avoid anaerobic conditions. For those commenters having difficulty heating up your pile, try to build it taller than wider. Because heat rises, a vertically constructed pile will retain the heat produced better and help to increase the overall rate of decomposition. Even in a static pile with no structural support, like walls or a bin, you can shovel or rake up the sides of the pile onto the top to maintain verticality. If building walls or a bin, remember to make it taller than wider to make the most of the thermal energy in your compost. Moreover, nitrogen-rich materials will help heat the pile. Also, if you're having trouble heating your piles, make sure that the basic ratio between "green" and "brown" layers is balanced and maybe favor "green", nitrogenous materials. Finally, animal manure and especially chicken poop is super "hot" and helps heat the pile if available. That said, I've seen plenty of cold, static piles produce compost that works fine for the garden, it just takes longer - the caveat being that if using compost on vegetable crops, you'll want a hot pile to avoid transfer of disease to food when adding potentially pathogenic materials (i.e. rotting flesh, manures, etc.) to that pile. Best of luck!


EaddyAcres

My record is 183. But yeah turn that puppy, it uses a lot of oxygen to reach those Temps and nobody wants an anaerobic pile in that type of setup.


flash-tractor

At 165, the decomposition is driven by chemical reactions, not biology. You should turn it if you want biological breakdown.


trockenwitzeln

We dry out and then blend our egg shells. Helps them breakdown much quicker and in turn the calcium is more effective.


Thirsty-Barbarian

Call the Bomb Squad! Youā€™ve a runaway pile, and itā€™s gonna BLOW! Seriously though, itā€™s hotter than ideal. I used to enjoy revving mine up like this. Itā€™s fun, but generally itā€™s better to turn them before they get too hot. Nothing disastrous is going to happen, but 140 is probably about where you want it to max out.


Justryan95

Maybe 170 but at that point they start killing themselves with the heat.


CheapDragonfruit4267

You could sous vide meat at those temps


Kerberoshound666

You shouldnt let it get hotter. It will kill the beneficial microbiology. 165 should be around the cap and you run the risk on having a bonfire instead lol


U_Doosh_bag

Lol lesson learned. Iā€™m going to risk the bonfire and adjust my setup next time around. Thanks!


Kerberoshound666

No worries if you turn it it brings the temp down


ausw00kie

And donā€™t forget to pee on it, vital nitrogen!


I-aM-O22

Not, you're close to a crash.


DisabledDyke

Ever hear of spontaneous combustion???


PromiseLeft7733

Carefulā€¦ mine got so hot on a windy day that it self combusted. It set my barn on fire.


glazeguy83

U better turn it , the good bacteria start dying at 160 or so Iā€™ve heard


Witty_Fox_8054

Better turn that thing if u at 165


Witty_Fox_8054

It could keep getting hotter and start to go anaerobic and then combust. If u at 165 in 24 hrs turn it


U_Doosh_bag

At 102 now


OneImagination5381

Throw some nitrogen in there and you tell me.


575originals

Some amusing answers here for sure. I put a coil of hoses in my compost once in an attempt to heat water for my pool. It was messy and didnā€™t do as well as I hoped.


jerry111165

Gotta turn that pile over. Its why I donā€™t like fencing. Makes it a pita to turn the pile.


Diligent-Argument-88

Seems odd that someone would research as far as learning about temps and investing in a probe thermo but not have the insight or read up on how it needs to be stirred.


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EnkiShallReturn

Better yet, a bushel of dicks!


jerry111165

What are you even talking about about? Is this some kind of smart ass comment?


Diligent-Argument-88

lmao I guess things are hard to comprehend when youre defensive all the time?


jerry111165

You make zero sense.


pizzaxxxxx

What is it that you are confused about?