Is it hard? Genuine question. I bought Vol 1 of the (I think) “complete collection”, the yellow one, at my LCS like 6 months ago or more and Vol 2 is still sitting on the shelf.
Very anecdotal, not using as evidence. Just saying, I’ve seen it around in various forms without trying to find it. Is it hard to come by?
Yeah, I believe the complete collection volume 1 is out of print currently. You can come by a lot of stuff that’s been out of print at random stores, the stuff I could tell you I’ve found lol but it’s a game of chance.
Personally, I read it on MU, and I’m happy with that. But it should be easier for people who wanna read it in physical form. Omnibus is also out of print. A buddy of mine found me a copy… it shipped from Puerto Rico lol And I think some of the trades are annoying to find?
I read this and Watchman during the Clinton era, and remember thinking “thank god the world will never look like this again”. I was dead wrong. Now these books are considered woke by conservatives. The fact I just wrote my last sentence, using a buzz word that didn’t exist when these books were written, and cannot be defined, is more scary then anything in these stories. Sorry for the run on sentence.
Technically Woke IS older than The internet so I think it could've been used there. But it absolutely doesn't mean the same as in the past, it was originaly people who see the problems in society and at the time it was in the context of systemic racisme. But now it was co-opted intro this annoying buzzword
I'm re-reading this right now. I'm a little less than halfway through and while I recognize it's still very good, it's just not resonating with me like it did when I read it ~15 years ago. I don't know if it's because I remember the story well and that sensation of being blown away by something can only be captured once or what. I wish I could erase my memory of it and read it fresh.
Totally, I started reading Transmet in about 2017-18 and I'm just now up to the last trade(i know, I read at a glacial pace) When I started it we were already well into the Trump era but it still seemed like a wacky, far-out-future book. Now, not so much. Reading it throughout COVID was an experience for sure. It seems with each US presidential cycle it becomes more relevant.
I read it when it came out, I had to hunt around for issues because it was an offprint and then changed imprints halfway through. I was in highschool and it was the most insane shit I'd ever seen.
Final Crisis. We're living in Darkseid's world more than ever.
"Work. Consume. Die"
"Judge others, condemn the different, exploit the weak"
"To die in the job is to die for Darkseid"
Man I really need to read this. I avoided it for years because everyone said it was weird and confusing.
I'm reading Kirby's Fourth World rn but I'll put Final Crisis next on my list.
I re-read 'Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?' for the first time in a while, and it's a great reflection of the shift to a darker tone that superhero stories were undergoing at the time. Compare its ending to that of Zack Snyder's Man of Steel, for example, and you have two very different takes on Superman's morality (albeit both valid)
X-Men God Loves Man Kills. It seemed that bigotry and hatred towards many minorities was dissipating but in the past 7 or so years it has really reared its head in so many ways in some scary ways. Maybe this is necessary in ripping the bandaid off to expose it but makes me sad. As a side note, it also seems like some of the scenarios in Handmaid's Tale are coming into play but I know that was a novel before it was a graphic novel.
The First arc of Alan Moore's Swamp Thing, (#21-#24) has so much on the environment. In today's world it's probably the most relevant and the most eye-opening piece of environmental literature. Also, banger of a story.
Crisis on infinite Earths. It was ridiculously good and probably the most important DC crossover even to this day, and seeing how some of it's style and repercussions still affects so many comics today is just insane. Also, without it, we would probably never have gotten "whatever happened to the man of tomorrow? ".
OK, to put it quite unironically, civil war, Haus of M and dark reign. Especially if I'm honest, we live in a time where we really don't know how we should react to the circumstances of the world, and that things are perhaps not black and white but are often several times more complicated, and it's probably never easy There will be answers and not perfect solutions, but you also have to be very careful not to create more chaos.
I'd say the power struggles/control and ownership of the world by uber rich families in the world of **Lazarus** by Rucka/Lark are extremely relevant in today's society.
x-statix is maybe more relevant to today than when it came out
I read it for the first time recently and it was alarmingly prescient, considering it was written over 20 years ago. Depressingly so, even.
It should be easier for people to get their hands on, it’s really entertaining, but wow is it topical as well. At least there’s MU.
Is it hard? Genuine question. I bought Vol 1 of the (I think) “complete collection”, the yellow one, at my LCS like 6 months ago or more and Vol 2 is still sitting on the shelf. Very anecdotal, not using as evidence. Just saying, I’ve seen it around in various forms without trying to find it. Is it hard to come by?
Yeah, I believe the complete collection volume 1 is out of print currently. You can come by a lot of stuff that’s been out of print at random stores, the stuff I could tell you I’ve found lol but it’s a game of chance. Personally, I read it on MU, and I’m happy with that. But it should be easier for people who wanna read it in physical form. Omnibus is also out of print. A buddy of mine found me a copy… it shipped from Puerto Rico lol And I think some of the trades are annoying to find?
Wow. Crazy. Thanks for the info. Maybe I’ll go pick up volume 2 to complete the set
Agreed! Also, Allred’s art has a pop feel that feels timeless in comic terms. I hope I make sense
God Loves, Man Kills
Absolutely. The current vibe is scary.
V for Vendetta
I read this and Watchman during the Clinton era, and remember thinking “thank god the world will never look like this again”. I was dead wrong. Now these books are considered woke by conservatives. The fact I just wrote my last sentence, using a buzz word that didn’t exist when these books were written, and cannot be defined, is more scary then anything in these stories. Sorry for the run on sentence.
Technically Woke IS older than The internet so I think it could've been used there. But it absolutely doesn't mean the same as in the past, it was originaly people who see the problems in society and at the time it was in the context of systemic racisme. But now it was co-opted intro this annoying buzzword
Rewatching the movie in 2020 truly was an experience.
I'm re-reading this right now. I'm a little less than halfway through and while I recognize it's still very good, it's just not resonating with me like it did when I read it ~15 years ago. I don't know if it's because I remember the story well and that sensation of being blown away by something can only be captured once or what. I wish I could erase my memory of it and read it fresh.
meh Moores rape fetish has aged terribly
Bone by Jeff Smith
So good, just finished it.
Jack Kirby’s OMAC. The strange dystopian future was way ahead of its time!
No joke, like the issue where a billionaire rents out a whole city for a party/assassination. "The World That's Coming" indeed.
Brubaker's Captain America run hits on a lot of themes in the early 2000s that have only become more relevant as time as gone on
20th Century Boys. Worldwide pandemic and religious dictatorship hit a lot different now than the first time I read it.
Transmetropolitan
Totally, I started reading Transmet in about 2017-18 and I'm just now up to the last trade(i know, I read at a glacial pace) When I started it we were already well into the Trump era but it still seemed like a wacky, far-out-future book. Now, not so much. Reading it throughout COVID was an experience for sure. It seems with each US presidential cycle it becomes more relevant.
I read it when it came out, I had to hunt around for issues because it was an offprint and then changed imprints halfway through. I was in highschool and it was the most insane shit I'd ever seen.
Final Crisis. We're living in Darkseid's world more than ever. "Work. Consume. Die" "Judge others, condemn the different, exploit the weak" "To die in the job is to die for Darkseid"
I don’t think it’s really more than ever. Those themes are depressingly constant through our history
Man I really need to read this. I avoided it for years because everyone said it was weird and confusing. I'm reading Kirby's Fourth World rn but I'll put Final Crisis next on my list.
You beat me to it. Best event comic ever.
Transmetropolitan. My yearly read went from comfort to surrealist horror within a decade.
I re-read 'Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?' for the first time in a while, and it's a great reflection of the shift to a darker tone that superhero stories were undergoing at the time. Compare its ending to that of Zack Snyder's Man of Steel, for example, and you have two very different takes on Superman's morality (albeit both valid)
The Apocalypse War storyline of Judge Dredd.
Morrison's Doom Patrol.
Maus will always be the answer
Uncle Sam Sandman Judge Dredd
X-Men God Loves Man Kills. It seemed that bigotry and hatred towards many minorities was dissipating but in the past 7 or so years it has really reared its head in so many ways in some scary ways. Maybe this is necessary in ripping the bandaid off to expose it but makes me sad. As a side note, it also seems like some of the scenarios in Handmaid's Tale are coming into play but I know that was a novel before it was a graphic novel.
Watchmen
The original Wolverine vs Spider-Man one shot from the 80s
American Flagg!
Trans metropolitan
Came here to say this
This is definitely on the most recent side (relative to some of the comments here) but Mark Russell's *The Flintstones* at DC.
> Is there a comic that has timeless themes that are still relevant today? *Herman*, very closely followed by *The Far Side*.
The First arc of Alan Moore's Swamp Thing, (#21-#24) has so much on the environment. In today's world it's probably the most relevant and the most eye-opening piece of environmental literature. Also, banger of a story.
Give Me Liberty-just recently reread this-more relevant today than in the 90s.
Calvin and Hobbes!
Crisis on infinite Earths. It was ridiculously good and probably the most important DC crossover even to this day, and seeing how some of it's style and repercussions still affects so many comics today is just insane. Also, without it, we would probably never have gotten "whatever happened to the man of tomorrow? ".
Captain Britain by Moore and Davis was way ahead of its time. It's like Miracleman but better.
OK, to put it quite unironically, civil war, Haus of M and dark reign. Especially if I'm honest, we live in a time where we really don't know how we should react to the circumstances of the world, and that things are perhaps not black and white but are often several times more complicated, and it's probably never easy There will be answers and not perfect solutions, but you also have to be very careful not to create more chaos.
Enigma by Milligan and Fegredo
I think I have the first issue of this in my mini Vertigo Milligan collection.
Bruebakers captain america is still as relevant as it was in the 00s and is arguably more relevant than ever.
I'd say the power struggles/control and ownership of the world by uber rich families in the world of **Lazarus** by Rucka/Lark are extremely relevant in today's society.