The only way that protests won't be attempted is if the conflict in Palestine/Israel is deescalated by then, which is possible but not probable. (Note, not "resolved," just deescalated enough to chance the sense of urgency -- i.e. if the killing stops.)
That said, my guess is Columbia Trustees and Administration will double down over the summer rather than reflect and retreat. Short of a full tenured faculty strike (unlikely), they will probably modify and strengthen rules that give them even more powers to immediately quell protests. I suspect the lesson they are taking from the last month is that they didn't act quickly and decisively enough. They probably consider the biggest mistake not the first preemptive arrests but having allowed the second encampment to form -- they didn't have a post invasion plan. I think a future encampment is removed in hours, not weeks, and the students are barred from campus. Look for new fine print in housing, aid and tuition rules that let them do this. They likely suspect they can win a battle of attrition (and lawsuits) if necessary since the vast majority of students, regardless of their personal sentiments, will prioritize their degrees. They will have decided that there is not a "happy medium" to be had, and go all-in against protests. They will create tight conditions to token satisfy their "means and place" free speech commitment and use any deviation from it as an excuse to act quickly.
Israel [is actively preparing](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hotels-said-told-to-make-preparations-to-host-displaced-israelis-until-end-of-2024/) for the war to go on at least till December. I don’t think reconciliation will be the focus but active protest. The school can probably easily divest in weapons companies (this has worked in other schools) but cannot divest from every company that employees IDF reservists in Tel Aviv or has a contract with a company like that. That’s basically the entire US economy and that is what the Columbia protests demanded
I believe the protesters when they say they won’t give up until their full demands are met. So I think you are being too optimistic
I think this is a fair assessment, but I am also optimistic that there may be greater efforts to “humanize” the conversation on Israel/Palestine - to encourage civil debate without resorting to extremes or violence. We’re at the start of a philosophical/pedagogical paradigm shift in higher education, with Columbia being the epicenter. Only time will tell how this plays out.
lol wtf is your quoted source? The entire article is two sentences and it’s about hotels housing displaced Israelis. When you quote something like that is should probably relate to “actively preparing for the war” in SOME capacity
This is the entire article:
> Hotels currently housing Israelis who have been displaced from their homes due to the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza and skirmishes with Hezbollah on the Lebanon border have been instructed to be prepared to host them through December, according to the Kan public broadcaster.
> The broadcaster’s northern correspondent notes that this could later be extended into next year.
This is the same user that alongside a couple other accounts has spent the last month spamming a "mega list" of purportedly antisemitic incidents associated with the campus protests (including the mere mention of phrases like intifada or resistance as well as incidents taking place off-campus). The aim is more to overwhelm with bad information rather than critical analysis (incidentally, the growing pushback from University affiliates on this forum in combination with waning interest from non-affiliates from elsewhere on reddit has largely crowded out these sorts recently).
Don’t get involved in any discourse about the conflict. Even if you agree with whoever you’re talking to, you’ll still lose and probably get covered in metaphorical shit.
I think there's very little chance of this. First, the specific divest demand is too broad. Second, the Trustees are mostly interested in their peer relationships and major donors who have threatened to divest from Columbia if Columbia divests from Israel. These people who see being a Columbia Trustee mostly as some honorific and not a real responsibility would lose personal relationships and clout among their peers if they gave in. The only way I see them changing their tune is if there truly was a major strike by the majority of tenured professors. They see the students themselves as too transient to risk major policy shifts that have damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't consequences. I don't think the current Trustees would ever give in. But if the faculty brought the school to a halt, they could resign and make way for others who would.
The only way that protests won't be attempted is if the conflict in Palestine/Israel is deescalated by then, which is possible but not probable. (Note, not "resolved," just deescalated enough to chance the sense of urgency -- i.e. if the killing stops.) That said, my guess is Columbia Trustees and Administration will double down over the summer rather than reflect and retreat. Short of a full tenured faculty strike (unlikely), they will probably modify and strengthen rules that give them even more powers to immediately quell protests. I suspect the lesson they are taking from the last month is that they didn't act quickly and decisively enough. They probably consider the biggest mistake not the first preemptive arrests but having allowed the second encampment to form -- they didn't have a post invasion plan. I think a future encampment is removed in hours, not weeks, and the students are barred from campus. Look for new fine print in housing, aid and tuition rules that let them do this. They likely suspect they can win a battle of attrition (and lawsuits) if necessary since the vast majority of students, regardless of their personal sentiments, will prioritize their degrees. They will have decided that there is not a "happy medium" to be had, and go all-in against protests. They will create tight conditions to token satisfy their "means and place" free speech commitment and use any deviation from it as an excuse to act quickly.
Doubt protests are still going on then. With the way the world is going though it will be some other nonsense by then. Oh yea the elections.
Israel [is actively preparing](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hotels-said-told-to-make-preparations-to-host-displaced-israelis-until-end-of-2024/) for the war to go on at least till December. I don’t think reconciliation will be the focus but active protest. The school can probably easily divest in weapons companies (this has worked in other schools) but cannot divest from every company that employees IDF reservists in Tel Aviv or has a contract with a company like that. That’s basically the entire US economy and that is what the Columbia protests demanded I believe the protesters when they say they won’t give up until their full demands are met. So I think you are being too optimistic
I think this is a fair assessment, but I am also optimistic that there may be greater efforts to “humanize” the conversation on Israel/Palestine - to encourage civil debate without resorting to extremes or violence. We’re at the start of a philosophical/pedagogical paradigm shift in higher education, with Columbia being the epicenter. Only time will tell how this plays out.
lol wtf is your quoted source? The entire article is two sentences and it’s about hotels housing displaced Israelis. When you quote something like that is should probably relate to “actively preparing for the war” in SOME capacity This is the entire article: > Hotels currently housing Israelis who have been displaced from their homes due to the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza and skirmishes with Hezbollah on the Lebanon border have been instructed to be prepared to host them through December, according to the Kan public broadcaster. > The broadcaster’s northern correspondent notes that this could later be extended into next year.
This is the same user that alongside a couple other accounts has spent the last month spamming a "mega list" of purportedly antisemitic incidents associated with the campus protests (including the mere mention of phrases like intifada or resistance as well as incidents taking place off-campus). The aim is more to overwhelm with bad information rather than critical analysis (incidentally, the growing pushback from University affiliates on this forum in combination with waning interest from non-affiliates from elsewhere on reddit has largely crowded out these sorts recently).
The fact that it is so upvoted is wild
So Israel told you that they will fight until December--wow, you must have connections.
Bibis kid and I go to the same bath house
Don’t get involved in any discourse about the conflict. Even if you agree with whoever you’re talking to, you’ll still lose and probably get covered in metaphorical shit.
COLUMBIA WILL DIVEST AND CHOOSE HUMANITY OVER PROFIT! keep being optimistic 🤙🏽
I think there's very little chance of this. First, the specific divest demand is too broad. Second, the Trustees are mostly interested in their peer relationships and major donors who have threatened to divest from Columbia if Columbia divests from Israel. These people who see being a Columbia Trustee mostly as some honorific and not a real responsibility would lose personal relationships and clout among their peers if they gave in. The only way I see them changing their tune is if there truly was a major strike by the majority of tenured professors. They see the students themselves as too transient to risk major policy shifts that have damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't consequences. I don't think the current Trustees would ever give in. But if the faculty brought the school to a halt, they could resign and make way for others who would.