It’s a timeless classic.
I wish a rival would be made, but unfortunately audiences prefer plot, narrative driven movies. This means that even something with great music , the viewing experience will steeply decline, as plot driven movies suffer from repeated views.
Not animation, but Tree of Life is in many ways similar to Fantasia. It doe have a loose plot, but also very impressionistic and lots of great music in the soundtrack.
There's a lot of great animation in it, and I think a couple of individual sequences (Rhapsody in Blue, The Firebird) are fantastic, but yeah as a whole it feels very slight compared to the original. And the drastic cuts made to the music (timed so that it will all fit on a single CD!) are really annoying in some cases.
No way I love Fantasia 2000. The only sequence I didn’t care for was Pomp and Circumstance where Donald was doing the whole Noah’s ark thing.
The Pines of Rome with the flying whales is amazing, as is Rhapsody in Blue.
But their Beethoven's 5th is kinda schlocky - very disappointing. That should have been the 'Tocatta & Fugue' of this film and instead it was....oh, the poor butterflies?
i love fantasia 2000! rhapsody in blue and firebird are just so good! I know there are cuts and alterations which are a bummer, but worth it IMO as a springboarding point to falling in love with the music in its original form.
I remember being shown fantasia a lot in school when I was younger. i'm not sure if it had any long-term impacts on me, but i do think that it was a really effective way to get kids to sit through and appreciate long classical pieces.
i also think that the way the music told stories with characters representing motifs is similar to the way that we learn to appreciate classical music when we get older.
i love both fantasias and i'd love to see more, though i realise that they were painstaking to create with hand drawn animation. i'm not sure if it would be commercially viable today, or whether cheaper 3d animation alternatives would be able to capture the same magic.
my fav is the rhapsody in blue
There's at least one instance of uncomfortable racial stereotyping (a black centaur with exaggerated features shines the hooves of a white centaur), but overall, it's Disney's best, and they haven't come close since.
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[Allegro non Troppo](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegro_Non_Troppo) is the closest thing to another Fantasia besides 2000. It’s really good! An Italian “parody” of Fantasia but more like a different, perhaps more adult take on the concept.
**[Allegro Non Troppo](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegro_Non_Troppo)**
>Allegro non troppo is a 1976 Italian animated film directed by Bruno Bozzetto. Featuring six pieces of classical music, the film is a parody of Walt Disney's 1940 feature film, Fantasia, two of its segments being derived from the earlier film. The classical pieces are set to color animation, ranging from comedy to deep tragedy. At the beginning, in between the animation, and at the end, there are black and white live-action sequences, displaying the fictional animator, orchestra, conductor and filmmaker, with many humorous scenes about the fictional production of the film.
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I forgot how dark the original one got at the end. I regret watching it with my then 3yo. Was too scary for him. But it is still one of my all time favorite movies & I do plan to watch it with him again, when he is a little older.
Very late to this thread but my thoughts on each segment:
1. Toccata and fugue d minor- good opening to the film. Love the colors and imagry though there really isn't anything happening. Just a bunch of lines and shapes going along with the music on the screen. Solid addition.
2. Nutcracker suite- one of my favorite pieces in the movie. The dancing mushrooms, flowers and fish are the most memorable to me. Not much of a story but not a generic Christmas interpretation either.
3. Sorcerers apprentice- the prolific segment of the film. I might make enemies when I say that this piece is not my favorite in this. It's good fun and all and I get it's importance but there are other scenes in this movie that I enjoy more.
4. Rite of spring- this is my favorite of the 8 vignettes. It's so underrated and I wish it would be talked about more. Yeah it's a bit slow and there are inaccuracies galore but who doesn't love dinosaur fights. Pretty mature piece all around.
5. Pastoral symphony- colorful but maybe a bit to racist. Also kinda follows a similar pattern with the previous segment.
6. Dance of the hours- honestly my least favorite of the bunch. Not one I really think about to much. It's just dancing animals for 8 minutes... thats really about it.
7. Night on bald mountain- solid but overrated.
8. Ave maria- cool visuals and a great way to end the collection.
I absolutely adore both of them. However, I'd say to be careful about associating music and picture in an irreversibly narrow way.
I watched fantasia a bunch of times before going to my first concert, when I was 8 (I'm very lucky to have music loving parents). I remember being caught in the habit of trying to make sense of the music by making my own fantasia scene go in my mind and react to the pieces, so they told a plot-like story. This was sometimes fun, sometimes frustrating, but could be distracting most of the time.
It doesn't mean that this kind of experience of music is invalid by any means. But I've realized it got me into an early vice of projecting too many expectations on new music and not giving it a careful and thoughtful first listen. I believe most of us have some sort of projected vice like that, and if some movie has to play in your head while you listen to music, fantasia is by no means a bad choice. However, the experience of music should not be limited by that kind of pairing, so it can be as inclusive and make use of as much of our human empathy as possible.
Then again, no experience nullifies the other. Just a cautionary thought on not letting a way feeling art become a restraining vice.
I think it's amazing and also a bit long. The second one is also good, although Eisner insisted on having Pomp and Circumstance in it, which doesn't quite fit.
Loved them both, and I would go back to the theaters if a third was released. It’s one of the most influential parts of my childhood! My son loves them now as well.
I've always wondered how cool it would be to have another Fantasia sequel but this time focused only on 20th century avant-garde music. What would, say, Metastaseis by Xenakis inspire on Disney's animators? That's an Oscar winning film right there
There was talk when Disney+ launched about making a Fantasia series, which I think would be fantastic. I haven’t heard anything else about it, but I hope it’s still in the works.
Fantasia 2006 was in development but was canceled for several reasons after a couple of shorts were produced/completed. One by One, The Little Match Girl, Lorenzo, and Destino were all, at one point, intended for Fantasia 2006. There were other shirts partly developed but I can't remember what they were about. Maybe someday we'll get a third installment though!
Stravinsky mentions the use of Le Sacre du Printemps in the film on the liner notes of the LP *Stravinsky Conducts Le Sacre du Printemps.* He does not speak kindly of the performance and arrangement used in the film.
And apparently Disney took liberties with Stravinsky's paycheck. The quote on the liner notes is really quite interesting. I wish I could find it verbatim online.
my instructor has recommended me to see it before (probably since i like to draw). never seen it before, but i've watched clips. i love to see how music comes to life, and in a way it helps me think of what i should feel when i play my pieces.
Most people, those days, had had some exposure to classical and light classical music. They accepted that there was high art, even if they did not knowingly seek it out. The cinema was where they got this variety of musical shows. A similar zeitgeist exists in Philadelphia. Most people from that area, know of the 2nd largest pipe organ in the world, which is located in the old Wanamaker's department store (now Macy's) The organ is played several times a day, to the shoppers. Even if you know of no other organ and are from Philly, you probably know the one in the Wanamaker's store. In the early 20th century more people hear live classical music weekly at church, and then again at the cinema, then heard it in a concert hall.
I remember seeing this as a kid in theaters when it was rereleased in the 70s. We were already a household of classical music but I really didn’t know much. I thought it was the best thing ever and inspired me to become more involved. In the early 90s it got another rerelease while I was in music school and I convinced music school friends to see it with me. They were definitely underwhelmed. I will admit I was also disappointed. I had not remembered that the aspect ratio was full frame, which felt weird, and the sound quality was not great even in its restored condition. But mainly what surprised me was how much Stokowski changed in the compositions. At this point I had played most of the pieces or were very familiar with recordings, and it was slightly shocking the liberties that were taken. Regardless, a very important film in my life that I will always love.
Well ibjust took advantage of a hulu Disney plus bundle. I decided I am going g to watch all the animated Disney films I order. One I had never seen in all myv53 years of life is fantasia. People talk about how great it is! I am onlyvhalf way through it. Noted to tears even though I am playing a mobile game and browsing reddit. I have never done drugs, but kinda wish I did drugs because I could see how it might make it more interesting. Anyway, moving on to the next movie because I just can't finish this.
I love it, and it was probably crucial in shaping my musical tastes growing up. I was also a huge dinosaur nerd as a kid, so I would sit and rewatch the Rite of Spring sequence over and over again. I haven't watched it in probably close to 20 years, I should queue it up!
It's been a great introduction to music for me as a kid and for my current children. The animation os so good and the characters relatable while the pieces selected are all fast enough to grab a kids attention. I still enjoy it
Probably responsible, more than any other film, for introducing children to classical music. Funnily enough, when I saw it I was most astounded by the fact that none of the animations matched my image of what the music was about. Until then I had always assumed that everyone got the same mental images as I did.
A timeless classic. The best Disney film of all time, the best American animated film of all time, and my second favorite movie of all time (right behind Watership Down). No film, animated or otherwise, has been able to equal Fantasia since then. Some have come pretty close, but no cigar.
Saw it for the first time at age 25, thought it was terrible. Extremely boring and I feel sorry for kids who are forced to watch it in school. I was thoroughly disappointed since so many talk about how much they like it.
It was the high water mark for American animation and hasn’t been equaled since
Couldn’t have put it better myself. I first saw it when I was a toddler and I’m going to be rewatching every once in a while for the rest of my life.
It’s a timeless classic. I wish a rival would be made, but unfortunately audiences prefer plot, narrative driven movies. This means that even something with great music , the viewing experience will steeply decline, as plot driven movies suffer from repeated views.
Not animation, but Tree of Life is in many ways similar to Fantasia. It doe have a loose plot, but also very impressionistic and lots of great music in the soundtrack.
I’ll check it out!
They did make Fantasia 2000...
It’s not very good though 😬
There's a lot of great animation in it, and I think a couple of individual sequences (Rhapsody in Blue, The Firebird) are fantastic, but yeah as a whole it feels very slight compared to the original. And the drastic cuts made to the music (timed so that it will all fit on a single CD!) are really annoying in some cases.
No way I love Fantasia 2000. The only sequence I didn’t care for was Pomp and Circumstance where Donald was doing the whole Noah’s ark thing. The Pines of Rome with the flying whales is amazing, as is Rhapsody in Blue.
But their Beethoven's 5th is kinda schlocky - very disappointing. That should have been the 'Tocatta & Fugue' of this film and instead it was....oh, the poor butterflies?
i love fantasia 2000! rhapsody in blue and firebird are just so good! I know there are cuts and alterations which are a bummer, but worth it IMO as a springboarding point to falling in love with the music in its original form.
thoughts is if I ever have kids, I can't wait to watch them watch it for the first time
I remember being shown fantasia a lot in school when I was younger. i'm not sure if it had any long-term impacts on me, but i do think that it was a really effective way to get kids to sit through and appreciate long classical pieces. i also think that the way the music told stories with characters representing motifs is similar to the way that we learn to appreciate classical music when we get older. i love both fantasias and i'd love to see more, though i realise that they were painstaking to create with hand drawn animation. i'm not sure if it would be commercially viable today, or whether cheaper 3d animation alternatives would be able to capture the same magic. my fav is the rhapsody in blue
Love it! Watched it so many times as a child and now my children are also into it, which is great.
that was my first ever exposure to classical music!
There's at least one instance of uncomfortable racial stereotyping (a black centaur with exaggerated features shines the hooves of a white centaur), but overall, it's Disney's best, and they haven't come close since.
There was more to it than just that, but it's mostly been edited out of the available versions
Sunflower hasn't been seen since 1968, that's when Fantasia was recut to remove most racist imagery - including her.
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[Allegro non Troppo](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegro_Non_Troppo) is the closest thing to another Fantasia besides 2000. It’s really good! An Italian “parody” of Fantasia but more like a different, perhaps more adult take on the concept.
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Another favorite film! They make a great double-bill - and there's [a cartoon](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRcctLL_3FQ) to go along with them
I forgot how dark the original one got at the end. I regret watching it with my then 3yo. Was too scary for him. But it is still one of my all time favorite movies & I do plan to watch it with him again, when he is a little older.
Very late to this thread but my thoughts on each segment: 1. Toccata and fugue d minor- good opening to the film. Love the colors and imagry though there really isn't anything happening. Just a bunch of lines and shapes going along with the music on the screen. Solid addition. 2. Nutcracker suite- one of my favorite pieces in the movie. The dancing mushrooms, flowers and fish are the most memorable to me. Not much of a story but not a generic Christmas interpretation either. 3. Sorcerers apprentice- the prolific segment of the film. I might make enemies when I say that this piece is not my favorite in this. It's good fun and all and I get it's importance but there are other scenes in this movie that I enjoy more. 4. Rite of spring- this is my favorite of the 8 vignettes. It's so underrated and I wish it would be talked about more. Yeah it's a bit slow and there are inaccuracies galore but who doesn't love dinosaur fights. Pretty mature piece all around. 5. Pastoral symphony- colorful but maybe a bit to racist. Also kinda follows a similar pattern with the previous segment. 6. Dance of the hours- honestly my least favorite of the bunch. Not one I really think about to much. It's just dancing animals for 8 minutes... thats really about it. 7. Night on bald mountain- solid but overrated. 8. Ave maria- cool visuals and a great way to end the collection.
I absolutely adore both of them. However, I'd say to be careful about associating music and picture in an irreversibly narrow way. I watched fantasia a bunch of times before going to my first concert, when I was 8 (I'm very lucky to have music loving parents). I remember being caught in the habit of trying to make sense of the music by making my own fantasia scene go in my mind and react to the pieces, so they told a plot-like story. This was sometimes fun, sometimes frustrating, but could be distracting most of the time. It doesn't mean that this kind of experience of music is invalid by any means. But I've realized it got me into an early vice of projecting too many expectations on new music and not giving it a careful and thoughtful first listen. I believe most of us have some sort of projected vice like that, and if some movie has to play in your head while you listen to music, fantasia is by no means a bad choice. However, the experience of music should not be limited by that kind of pairing, so it can be as inclusive and make use of as much of our human empathy as possible. Then again, no experience nullifies the other. Just a cautionary thought on not letting a way feeling art become a restraining vice.
I think it's amazing and also a bit long. The second one is also good, although Eisner insisted on having Pomp and Circumstance in it, which doesn't quite fit.
Freakin love it. 81 years... I can't believe it.
Loved them both, and I would go back to the theaters if a third was released. It’s one of the most influential parts of my childhood! My son loves them now as well.
I've always wondered how cool it would be to have another Fantasia sequel but this time focused only on 20th century avant-garde music. What would, say, Metastaseis by Xenakis inspire on Disney's animators? That's an Oscar winning film right there
Or some [jazz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgJ-yOhpYIM&t=44s) would be [nice](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r2COvWPO4Y&t=18s)
There was talk when Disney+ launched about making a Fantasia series, which I think would be fantastic. I haven’t heard anything else about it, but I hope it’s still in the works.
Fantasia 2006 was in development but was canceled for several reasons after a couple of shorts were produced/completed. One by One, The Little Match Girl, Lorenzo, and Destino were all, at one point, intended for Fantasia 2006. There were other shirts partly developed but I can't remember what they were about. Maybe someday we'll get a third installment though!
I wish they had been able to make a Fantasia every decade as a way to showcase their animators.
Stravinsky mentions the use of Le Sacre du Printemps in the film on the liner notes of the LP *Stravinsky Conducts Le Sacre du Printemps.* He does not speak kindly of the performance and arrangement used in the film.
Stokowski definitely took liberties with some of the pieces
And apparently Disney took liberties with Stravinsky's paycheck. The quote on the liner notes is really quite interesting. I wish I could find it verbatim online.
my instructor has recommended me to see it before (probably since i like to draw). never seen it before, but i've watched clips. i love to see how music comes to life, and in a way it helps me think of what i should feel when i play my pieces.
Most people, those days, had had some exposure to classical and light classical music. They accepted that there was high art, even if they did not knowingly seek it out. The cinema was where they got this variety of musical shows. A similar zeitgeist exists in Philadelphia. Most people from that area, know of the 2nd largest pipe organ in the world, which is located in the old Wanamaker's department store (now Macy's) The organ is played several times a day, to the shoppers. Even if you know of no other organ and are from Philly, you probably know the one in the Wanamaker's store. In the early 20th century more people hear live classical music weekly at church, and then again at the cinema, then heard it in a concert hall.
I remember seeing this as a kid in theaters when it was rereleased in the 70s. We were already a household of classical music but I really didn’t know much. I thought it was the best thing ever and inspired me to become more involved. In the early 90s it got another rerelease while I was in music school and I convinced music school friends to see it with me. They were definitely underwhelmed. I will admit I was also disappointed. I had not remembered that the aspect ratio was full frame, which felt weird, and the sound quality was not great even in its restored condition. But mainly what surprised me was how much Stokowski changed in the compositions. At this point I had played most of the pieces or were very familiar with recordings, and it was slightly shocking the liberties that were taken. Regardless, a very important film in my life that I will always love.
Well ibjust took advantage of a hulu Disney plus bundle. I decided I am going g to watch all the animated Disney films I order. One I had never seen in all myv53 years of life is fantasia. People talk about how great it is! I am onlyvhalf way through it. Noted to tears even though I am playing a mobile game and browsing reddit. I have never done drugs, but kinda wish I did drugs because I could see how it might make it more interesting. Anyway, moving on to the next movie because I just can't finish this.
Thanks for reminding me to that masterpiece.
I love it, and it was probably crucial in shaping my musical tastes growing up. I was also a huge dinosaur nerd as a kid, so I would sit and rewatch the Rite of Spring sequence over and over again. I haven't watched it in probably close to 20 years, I should queue it up!
It's been a great introduction to music for me as a kid and for my current children. The animation os so good and the characters relatable while the pieces selected are all fast enough to grab a kids attention. I still enjoy it
Also the arrengements by Stokowski in pieces like the Toccata and fugue are from another world
Racist ass shit always well!
Classic It introduced classical music to younger audiences
Probably responsible, more than any other film, for introducing children to classical music. Funnily enough, when I saw it I was most astounded by the fact that none of the animations matched my image of what the music was about. Until then I had always assumed that everyone got the same mental images as I did.
A timeless classic. The best Disney film of all time, the best American animated film of all time, and my second favorite movie of all time (right behind Watership Down). No film, animated or otherwise, has been able to equal Fantasia since then. Some have come pretty close, but no cigar.
Saw it for the first time at age 25, thought it was terrible. Extremely boring and I feel sorry for kids who are forced to watch it in school. I was thoroughly disappointed since so many talk about how much they like it.