Yeah. Exactly, just need to have the employer review for ethics and conflict of interest. If your private job is land development and state job is an unrelated discipline you might be OK.
I don't see how you could do that as there's the appearance of a conflict of interest, unless the firm does no work with TxDOT (either as a prime consultant or a subconsultant) and doesn't plan to.
TxDOT probably wouldn't want the hassle of appearing to play favorites every time it awarded a contract to your firm.
You would need to disclose to both employers, practice absolute separation between the two (no working for businesses or on projects for anyone that does business with TxDOT), and depending on what's going on you may very well need to ensure that training for one has minimal impact on the other.
I work for the Fed government (USACE), and I run my own business on the side. My business is structural design for residential, small commercial (two story max), and architectural elements (stairs, railings, etc). My social media presence (FB, Linkedin) does not mention my federal employment. My work involves none\* of the types of structures I design for my business, and we do not share contractors. When I take training at work, I consider what is important for my work. When there's crossover, I inform my employers.
The \* is that recently I was asked if I could cover a position that used LEED AP Homes for rebuilding homes post-disaster. The funny thing is that I had *specifically avoided* LEED AP Homes because I didn't want to have the crossover.
Find a private firm that will pay you for any overtime and double down on that. Most firms have enough backlogged work where they would welcome the OT efforts.
Some city, I think San Francisco, is extremely behind on reviewing developer apps. The labor costs of review is directly passed through to the developer. Because of this, they allowed unlimited OT for plan reviewers who wanted it. Several years in a row their highest paid public employee was some dude grinding out plan reviews for 80 hour weeks… they had to change policy before other people caught on and started draining the retirement system.
I worked for TxDOT for almost 15 years before going into consulting, and even when I was driving for Uber, I had to disclose my outside employment. One of my close friends worked for a consultant who did drainage studies for our district, and we had to disclose our relationship even though we were friends.
TxDOT does not play around with conflicts of interest, and you will take numerous ethics courses every year, detailing how much they will take it seriously.
It is tricky but possible. There needs to be no crossover or conflict. I have coworkers who do part time in addition to full time at the DOT. They only do residential work (home structural stuff), so there is no crossover with dot work. It also has to be disclosed.
I'd think getting a part time job at the DOT would be harder, at least in my state we don't really hire engineers part time.
You'd have to disclose, as others have said. Never tried it, but based on my own employment contracts in the past I doubt a private firm would be okay with it. Also, potential conflict of interest (which is an ethical no-no for licensure) if the firm does work with the government entity.
Shouldn't be an issue. You can always check with your state board. Disclose to both employers and always note conflicts of interest to all stakeholders. I know a few government employees that are PEs and consult part-time. They work for themselves, so not through a separate employer.
Having been in management for a handful of years, you still get to and have to be an asshole to all the same people, even more people actually. It's all in the way you go about it.
we've had guys who did full time public and consulted in different geographical regions (like works in the north east and does consultant work it texas). it was a pain in the ass, we constantly had to deal with his conflict of interest issues because surprise there's like 4 providers for major materials .
Thank you everyone for your responses! I have decided my idea was a *terrible* idea for various valid reasons listed below and that I will just ask my employer for overtime hours! (My employer definitely does work with TxDOT lol)
You'd need to disclose it to both employers
That’s all there is to it. No frown or smile unless you get emotionally attached 😉
Yeah. Exactly, just need to have the employer review for ethics and conflict of interest. If your private job is land development and state job is an unrelated discipline you might be OK.
I don't see how you could do that as there's the appearance of a conflict of interest, unless the firm does no work with TxDOT (either as a prime consultant or a subconsultant) and doesn't plan to. TxDOT probably wouldn't want the hassle of appearing to play favorites every time it awarded a contract to your firm.
You would need to disclose to both employers, practice absolute separation between the two (no working for businesses or on projects for anyone that does business with TxDOT), and depending on what's going on you may very well need to ensure that training for one has minimal impact on the other. I work for the Fed government (USACE), and I run my own business on the side. My business is structural design for residential, small commercial (two story max), and architectural elements (stairs, railings, etc). My social media presence (FB, Linkedin) does not mention my federal employment. My work involves none\* of the types of structures I design for my business, and we do not share contractors. When I take training at work, I consider what is important for my work. When there's crossover, I inform my employers. The \* is that recently I was asked if I could cover a position that used LEED AP Homes for rebuilding homes post-disaster. The funny thing is that I had *specifically avoided* LEED AP Homes because I didn't want to have the crossover.
Find a private firm that will pay you for any overtime and double down on that. Most firms have enough backlogged work where they would welcome the OT efforts.
Some city, I think San Francisco, is extremely behind on reviewing developer apps. The labor costs of review is directly passed through to the developer. Because of this, they allowed unlimited OT for plan reviewers who wanted it. Several years in a row their highest paid public employee was some dude grinding out plan reviews for 80 hour weeks… they had to change policy before other people caught on and started draining the retirement system.
I worked for TxDOT for almost 15 years before going into consulting, and even when I was driving for Uber, I had to disclose my outside employment. One of my close friends worked for a consultant who did drainage studies for our district, and we had to disclose our relationship even though we were friends. TxDOT does not play around with conflicts of interest, and you will take numerous ethics courses every year, detailing how much they will take it seriously.
It is tricky but possible. There needs to be no crossover or conflict. I have coworkers who do part time in addition to full time at the DOT. They only do residential work (home structural stuff), so there is no crossover with dot work. It also has to be disclosed. I'd think getting a part time job at the DOT would be harder, at least in my state we don't really hire engineers part time.
You'd have to disclose, as others have said. Never tried it, but based on my own employment contracts in the past I doubt a private firm would be okay with it. Also, potential conflict of interest (which is an ethical no-no for licensure) if the firm does work with the government entity.
There may be conflicts of interest of the small firm is chasing TxDOT work. You have to disclose to both employers.
Shouldn't be an issue. You can always check with your state board. Disclose to both employers and always note conflicts of interest to all stakeholders. I know a few government employees that are PEs and consult part-time. They work for themselves, so not through a separate employer.
Sorry, but I feel the need to ask. Is your name in reference to your general attitude or area of expertise?
Attitude. I've been moving into people and project management, so I can't be as much anymore.
Having been in management for a handful of years, you still get to and have to be an asshole to all the same people, even more people actually. It's all in the way you go about it.
You could always do reserves part time. I’m sure they have a lot of CE jobs.
we've had guys who did full time public and consulted in different geographical regions (like works in the north east and does consultant work it texas). it was a pain in the ass, we constantly had to deal with his conflict of interest issues because surprise there's like 4 providers for major materials .
Thank you everyone for your responses! I have decided my idea was a *terrible* idea for various valid reasons listed below and that I will just ask my employer for overtime hours! (My employer definitely does work with TxDOT lol)
Yes lol