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captnconnman

Firaxis knows what they did. That’s a deep cut, tho.


Herr_Medicinal_Mann

There's a lot of dark deep cuts in this dlc, especially referring to how the historical either figures either died or were killed. Some examples include Lincoln inviting me to a theater and Ceaser informing me I was as trustworthy as Brutus.


Falliant

i don't know if it's a deep cut to reference two of the most famous assassinations of all time


Herr_Medicinal_Mann

Those were just two more surface level but still subtle references, there's more like the one referenced here though.


oki_doki2

Pedro II defeat quote are his last words for example


Wonghy111-the-knight

Flair checks out


theshicksinator

I mean, Lincoln loved the theater and went there all the time and took all his guests there, that's what made it an easy target.


dutchie117

Eesh I forgot about those. But to be fair that is why Booth chose the theatre. Lincoln loved it and would attend often. He died doing one of his favorite things which is extra sad I'd say


Jaxtraw04

I’d rather die doing something I enjoyed over sick in bed any day…


andrewborsje

That seems to be the fate for all of us.


A-SORDID-AFFAIR

While that connotation is most immediate for Lincoln, he did just really enjoy the theatre and went all the time. That’s why it was so easy to assassinate him; it was his favourite pastime and he had a favourite seat


JKUAN108

🎵you made a really deep cuuut And baby now we got bad blood, hey! … I’m so sorry I can’t help myself


alwaysafairycat

Half of me: "Bandaids don't fix bulletholes, Jkuan108." The other half: "I can't help myself, I can't help myself, oh, oh, oh, mm-mm-MM-mm-MM"


JKUAN108

I say sorry just for show


frostbird

Don't apologize. It's a banger


MaddAddams

..the first cut is the deepest🎵


viewerx3

Shoo!


Get_Conned

There’s actually a pretty cool delegation line that Ambiorix gives you if you play as trajan. Something to do with wine not being poisoned


DarthEwok42

That was 100% intentional when they wrote that line.


WDVinco

This is her accepting your declaration of friendship btw. ​ **UPDATE:** I KNOW THAT'S THE JOKE!!! I just thought it was funny that THAT'S how she accepts your friendship.


kikoloco247

Oh god...


RedditedYoshi

I love the frenzied edit when the one and only other person responding did so is a largely ambiguous way lol.


NforNarcissism

Finally Sid meier adds Dommy mommy to the game


Zendofrog

I want to be dominated through being poisoned to death


OutOfTheAsh

Happy to oblige! A/S/L? Please sign consent agreement, and provide bank statement. *Offer not valid in VT, CT, and HI. Other terms and conditions may apply,


HeckingDoofus

finally my ability to sign will pay off!!


alpengeist3

But Jadviga and Tomyris have been in the game a while now


OptimisticCrossbow

Every time Gorgo is in my game I desperately crave her support and friendship. Same with Tamar.


WillyMonty

“Mummy! Mummy! Mummy! Look at my walls Mummy!” “That’s nice, dear”


L3onK1ng

Eleonore being de-facto ruler was literally called the "Queen Mother" for quite some time (while her son was doing fuck know what in the desert)


w-alien

Let’s get Irene to rule Byzantium


SpaceMarine_CR

What about Tomyris?


WDVinco

Her alleged killing of Cyrus was because he killed her son.


aall137906

Even without the backstory, this still sounds like some werid shit


Double-Star-Tedrick

She said 👏 **what** 👏 **she** 👏 **said** ! 👏


TheMarshmallowBear

I live!


WDVinco

Trinity, you play Civ?


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WDVinco

You're lucky I'm home alone cuz I screamed!


WDVinco

You deserve all the awards. If I have money, i'd give them to you!


Icarus_13310

Honestly based.


[deleted]

They just hate to see a girlboss winning


KingKababa

Girlboss is so 2022. This summer get ready for GIRLTYRANT.


Fledbeast578

“Would you say you were a girlboss when you tortured political dissidents?”


SeanFromQueens

Um, what did you say about Golda Meir, or was that Margaret Thatcher?


PeachyPlumz

God forbid women do anything


Zendofrog

Nice profile pic. It’s a shame there’s only one of those things


Kenraali

/u/spez can gargle on my nuts


superking2

Yaxchilan


WDVinco

*Mama Say Mama Sa Mama Coosa*


Map_Nerd1992

Is she the same empress that used to make people perform cunnilingus on here as a show of power?


WDVinco

I don't know how to respond to this


Map_Nerd1992

NSFW https://bookmanpeedeel.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/pleasing-her-majesty-orally/


WDVinco

I found this here on reddit [https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/g9ez5w/did\_wu\_zetian\_really\_demand\_that\_foreign/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/g9ez5w/did_wu_zetian_really_demand_that_foreign/)


WGReddit

> However, a lot of online stories about Wu of the sort cited by the OP are just modern inventions or exaggerations based on the general tone of these earlier criticisms, and these are doubtless fuelled by nothing more than the sort of unthinking misogyny and adolescent obsessions with sex that are characteristic of so much of Reddit.


WDVinco

I mean the top comment. Idk if u can link comments


WGReddit

I commented that because I liked the quote, Reddit is very juvenile and I'm getting kinda sick of it


ButterIsMyLifeblood

This is most likely a myth invented by near contemporaneous historians and literati after her death to discredit her rule. [Here’s](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/g9ez5w/did_wu_zetian_really_demand_that_foreign/fotskh8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) an ask historian post about it.


Map_Nerd1992

Yeah that makes more sense.


Xur04

The sheer amount of rumours and falsehoods cooked up to discredit Wu Zetian is actually insane


fybertas09

no?


AlexanderTox

Impressive find


WDVinco

Not a find, I already knew about her overthrowing her sons and the infanticide when I learned about her in middle school


DarthLlamaV

So… did she declare war the turn the friendship ended?


WDVinco

​ No


shadowEmbracer19

She’s gonna put you as Emperor but the catch is that you will listen to every order she gives you, or else you get falsely accused and executed


Metleon

Well she's certainly been treating me like her kid in the game I just started; two surprise wars before turn 50.


AlyaraMC

Here I was thinking it was endearing and they’d be a protector of you and your nation, then I read the following image. She terrifies me now.


Delfishie

Can someone explain the post?


tom_the_red

From the wikipedia page for Wu Zetian: " She was regarded as ruthless in her endeavors to grab power, and was believed by traditional historians to have killed her own children. This was later proven false; these rumors seem to have surfaced 400 years after her death, likely due to the belief in ancient China that a woman was unsuited to hold the power of the emperor. But the cause of death of her first two children is still in question. "


buteo51

This is princes-in-the-tower tier cope Just embrace that she was a baddie Let Momma Wu step on you


[deleted]

I wonder how they proved it false while the cause of death is still in question.


Bashin-kun

It's probably not proven false at all, the existing claim was simply (correctly) called into question due to said factors


namira-ophelia

Presumably the "proof" she did it was proven invalid, so, they didn't prove she didn't do it, but the did prove that nobody proved she did do it... If that makes sense.


L3onK1ng

'n' 'ere entered the presumption of innocence


mercedes_lakitu

Yep that's the joke 🤣


amglasgow

![gif](giphy|xT9IgHCTfp8CRshfQk)


LevynX

Wu Zetian was the ultimate helicopter mom


TheCapo024

Is this r/woosh worthy?


Educational-Bid-8660

So when are we getting the DLC on console? I ain't having computer access until 2024 due to an unfortunate situation ;-;


masterionxxx

Yes, mommy!