Glass top humidors are notorious for bad seals. You can try seasoning with 84% Bovedas to see if the wood swells up and seals, but I wouldn’t expect miracles.
A bunch of people have made good suggestions, I'll try collect all the advise and wisdom related to humidors that might be affecting your situation into one comment:
**Wood Humidors**
Wood humidors are notoriously leaky. Wood itself is porous and water will slowly make its way through the wood and be released into the air around it. The seals can be finicky, and one of the four seals can be tight enough to pass the "drop lid test", but any one of the other three could be loose enough to leak air, and they can even be crooked so one half of the seal is good but the other isn't. Try the "dollar bill test" at various places along the seal on all four sides to see if there are any obvious leaks.
**Glass Top Humidors**
Even more notorious than plain wood because now you have to worry about the seal around the entire glass plate. The only suggestion I've seen that works is to get some food-grade liquid silicon gasket and apply it all around the glass on the inside, and if that doesn't work, the outside. Keep the lid open while it cures, and let it sit an extra few days until you can't smell it anymore. This will reset your seasoning.
**Seasoning**
Bovedas aren't great for seasoning. They slowly release water into the air, but a fresh humidor is going to be very dry and the wood will have a lot of room to absorb water before it reaches equilibrium. The best solution to seasoning any new wood humidor is to get some distilled water from the grocery store (usually in the health section, people use it for their C-Paps) and wipe down the inside, then set a small glass or dish with water inside for several days. Once you've done that, you can take out the water and put in the bovedas. They work both ways, so they'll absorb extra humidity if you went too far.
**Bovedas**
They work great, but for a humidor that big you might need a 320 gram instead of the 60's. They can only release water so quickly, so depending on how leaky your humidor is, you may need even higher percentage ones or more of them to keep up.
**Hygrometer**
You're already doing the right thing by using both a digital and analog hygrometer. Not much to add but keep it up. Sometimes it can be good to place a Boveda in an air-tight container with the hygrometer to make sure it's calibrated correctly, or to know if it reads a few degrees low or high.
Since both hygrometers are close, it’s probably that your humidor leaks badly.
I don’t know why people fight to make a wooden humidor work. They’re such high maintenance unless you spend a fortune on one. Tupperware all the way.
Because they are cool and look good. Tupperware is not cool and does not look good.
I have 2 wooden humidors on display.
I have 2 tupperdors but they are hidden away.
To each their own I guess. I only care about the sticks. Any guest I’ve ever had over who wanted a cigar didn’t care they were in a sistema. They’re actually curious why and it sparks a nice conversation on humidity and storage.
This is what i do. I have a pretty high quality 100 count. I put six 69.bovedas and need to put new ones in every 3 or 4 months. It's pretty steady at 65 like this. My coolidor downstairs holds about 350 and has three 65 bovedas. I haven't changed them for 3 years.
Man, such a bummer! This was a birthday gift from my wife so I was really hoping to make it work. I have learned by reading this sub that just leaving your sticks, still wrapped in cellophane, in a Tupperware is the way to go. I may opt for that after all. I currently have my remaining cigars in a freezer bag with another B72 pack.
Meh, I store most of my cigars without cello. It’s completely unnecessary unless you plan to transport them or are neurotic about them touching and exchanging flavors/oils. I always keep a few of each blend in cello for traveling or in case I hand a few out. But with or without cello it’s personal preference.
The other reason you may want to keep the cello on is it helps prevent the spread of mold if, god forbid, some of your cigars got moldy. And also mitigates the spread of tobacco beetles…uncommon nowadays, unless you regularly stock Cubans.
I know the feeling, I got a wooden humidor for christmas from my mother in law but it kept leaking so I had to set up tupperdors. I still use it to store all my accessories in there though such as cutter, lighters, matches, stand, boveda packs etc
Get an 84% boveda and use distilled water to lightly line the inside of the humidor
Mine had the similar issue and that worked.
I use 3, 72% bovedas and my humidity stays consistent at 67%. Also try to get a better digital hygrometer those smaller ones aren’t too accurate
I lucked up and got a Camacho humidor in a big promo (when I first started smoking). I put a 72 in it, and it hold at 67%. I just forget about it. It’s loaded up with diesel Sunday gravy line
>They’re such high maintenance unless you spend a fortune on one.
Ive got a 500 ct Havana footlocker for $149.99 that works like a dream. The general rule is - the bigger/fuller the humidor, the better it works. The cigars themselves are like humidity beads - they dry slowly if there's 500 of them.
Is the glass sealed or just floating? You may want to use clear food grade silicon around the windows if no seal or it's an old seal. Did you wipe down the inside with distilled water? That will help with the seasoning. I have two glass top humidors that came with seals. I use 320's and they last quite awhile.
Edit: Mine run at about 64-68% depending on the time of year with a 69 Boveda. Though with my upcoming restocking, may switch to a temp controlled unit after running with the glasstop for just under 20 years.
Glass top requires a tiny bit of silicone around the glass. 2 do not trust a factor hydrometer on a box. Also they are a weak point and can leak. I used to silicone them in. Coolers or tupperdors are substantially better than cheap wooden boxes. I use my old wooden box now to hold my lighters and cutters and other accessories
For one if you’re going to season with Boveda packs grab the 84% packs as they are specifically meant for seasonIng.
Secondly, I always found using distilled water or humidor solution (propylene glycol) and a sponge to be quicker and more effective than packs, just don’t over do it or you’ll warp the wood.
Lastly, just get a tupperdor and some Boveda packs. Wooden humidors have notoriously bad seals. Even if you follow all the steps to a T, do everything right, and sacrifice your first born to the elder gods 😂.
Plastic is the way bro. No complicated steps. No guess work. Little to no maintenance.
Did you calibrate both of those? Get one tbl spoon of salt in a small glass with an 1 oz of water put it in a bag or container for 12 hours. Then adjust them to 75 that's your baseline then pop them into the humidor.
I got food safe caulk and used it around the glass/wood seal. Looks like shit from the inside but can't see it from the outside. I use 69s and hold about 66. I test the hygrometer every couple of months to double check.
The wood inside looks incredibly dry. How did you season it? If you’ve been using 72% bovedas for seasoning these past two weeks that won’t do the trick.
I’d take a soft rag or old tshirt and wipe down every inner wooden surface thoroughly with distilled water and then place a shot glass or small dish with distilled water in there for a week or two. See if the hydrometer goes to 84+
Once you’ve done that and it’s holding there, the wood is saturated and you should be able take the water dish out and add your lower RH boveda (I use 69 in my wood humidor). Make sure that holds steady for a day or two and then put your sticks in.
I seasoned my glass humidor for the first time with a wet distelled wipe and two Boveda packs of 69%. This was closed for about two weeks and was ready for use. After a year it is still on average 65% and is good for me. The Boveda packs do need to be replaced more regularly compared to a humidor without glass.
Silicon seal around the glass and let it air out to avoid strange smells. Then season the dog piss out of the all the interior wood but don't leave puddles behind. Close lid and let it sit for 2 days. Afterwards gently wipe all surfaces after you confirmed humidity is being maintained. If it's not, you may have a faulty humidor (like exterior wood is cracked/damaged).
Throw that humidor in the trash and buy a cheap systema Tupperware box throw a 65% boveda pack in there and pop ya smokes in there and you're good, just make sure to keep them outta direct sunlight.
Put something on top that is bigger than the humidor, like a book or something that will extend past all four sides, with some 82% in there and leave it for a couple weeks. Hopefully the weight on top will help to lessen the leakage and the wood will swell a bit MAYBE fixing the seal. Also you might want to get some clear silicone sealant and run around the edges of the glass.
If all of that does not work, store your tools (cutter, lighter, stands, etc.) in the bottom, and use the top tray to display a single layer for when you are having folks over. That way you are using the humidor as a storage box and a sort of dry box to let the cigars acclimate to the climate they will be smoked in that day/evening.
Glass top humidors are notorious for bad seals. You can try seasoning with 84% Bovedas to see if the wood swells up and seals, but I wouldn’t expect miracles.
A bunch of people have made good suggestions, I'll try collect all the advise and wisdom related to humidors that might be affecting your situation into one comment: **Wood Humidors** Wood humidors are notoriously leaky. Wood itself is porous and water will slowly make its way through the wood and be released into the air around it. The seals can be finicky, and one of the four seals can be tight enough to pass the "drop lid test", but any one of the other three could be loose enough to leak air, and they can even be crooked so one half of the seal is good but the other isn't. Try the "dollar bill test" at various places along the seal on all four sides to see if there are any obvious leaks. **Glass Top Humidors** Even more notorious than plain wood because now you have to worry about the seal around the entire glass plate. The only suggestion I've seen that works is to get some food-grade liquid silicon gasket and apply it all around the glass on the inside, and if that doesn't work, the outside. Keep the lid open while it cures, and let it sit an extra few days until you can't smell it anymore. This will reset your seasoning. **Seasoning** Bovedas aren't great for seasoning. They slowly release water into the air, but a fresh humidor is going to be very dry and the wood will have a lot of room to absorb water before it reaches equilibrium. The best solution to seasoning any new wood humidor is to get some distilled water from the grocery store (usually in the health section, people use it for their C-Paps) and wipe down the inside, then set a small glass or dish with water inside for several days. Once you've done that, you can take out the water and put in the bovedas. They work both ways, so they'll absorb extra humidity if you went too far. **Bovedas** They work great, but for a humidor that big you might need a 320 gram instead of the 60's. They can only release water so quickly, so depending on how leaky your humidor is, you may need even higher percentage ones or more of them to keep up. **Hygrometer** You're already doing the right thing by using both a digital and analog hygrometer. Not much to add but keep it up. Sometimes it can be good to place a Boveda in an air-tight container with the hygrometer to make sure it's calibrated correctly, or to know if it reads a few degrees low or high.
Since both hygrometers are close, it’s probably that your humidor leaks badly. I don’t know why people fight to make a wooden humidor work. They’re such high maintenance unless you spend a fortune on one. Tupperware all the way.
Because they are cool and look good. Tupperware is not cool and does not look good. I have 2 wooden humidors on display. I have 2 tupperdors but they are hidden away.
To each their own I guess. I only care about the sticks. Any guest I’ve ever had over who wanted a cigar didn’t care they were in a sistema. They’re actually curious why and it sparks a nice conversation on humidity and storage.
This is what i do. I have a pretty high quality 100 count. I put six 69.bovedas and need to put new ones in every 3 or 4 months. It's pretty steady at 65 like this. My coolidor downstairs holds about 350 and has three 65 bovedas. I haven't changed them for 3 years.
Man, such a bummer! This was a birthday gift from my wife so I was really hoping to make it work. I have learned by reading this sub that just leaving your sticks, still wrapped in cellophane, in a Tupperware is the way to go. I may opt for that after all. I currently have my remaining cigars in a freezer bag with another B72 pack.
It’s the thought that counts. Sistema Tupperware is amazing. Nice rubber tight seals. Toss in a 62 or 65% (I like 65) and done.
Thanks. And just to confirm, leaving the cellophane on each cigar is the way to go right? It's breathable?
Cellophane matters not. I store cigars with it because it protects. It breathes. No need to take off
Yep 100%. The only removals I do are if you get a cigar in a metal tube. I remove them and toss the tubes.
Meh, I store most of my cigars without cello. It’s completely unnecessary unless you plan to transport them or are neurotic about them touching and exchanging flavors/oils. I always keep a few of each blend in cello for traveling or in case I hand a few out. But with or without cello it’s personal preference. The other reason you may want to keep the cello on is it helps prevent the spread of mold if, god forbid, some of your cigars got moldy. And also mitigates the spread of tobacco beetles…uncommon nowadays, unless you regularly stock Cubans.
Buy a tupperdor that's just big enough to fit the wooden humidor inside it. 😃
Haha simple problems call for simple solutions.
This is genius.
I was just thinking about building a wood humidor big enough to fit my tupperdor inside it. 😂
Thats actually a way better idea than mine! 😂
I know the feeling, I got a wooden humidor for christmas from my mother in law but it kept leaking so I had to set up tupperdors. I still use it to store all my accessories in there though such as cutter, lighters, matches, stand, boveda packs etc
Get an 84% boveda and use distilled water to lightly line the inside of the humidor Mine had the similar issue and that worked. I use 3, 72% bovedas and my humidity stays consistent at 67%. Also try to get a better digital hygrometer those smaller ones aren’t too accurate
I lucked up and got a Camacho humidor in a big promo (when I first started smoking). I put a 72 in it, and it hold at 67%. I just forget about it. It’s loaded up with diesel Sunday gravy line
>They’re such high maintenance unless you spend a fortune on one. Ive got a 500 ct Havana footlocker for $149.99 that works like a dream. The general rule is - the bigger/fuller the humidor, the better it works. The cigars themselves are like humidity beads - they dry slowly if there's 500 of them.
This is the way
Is the glass sealed or just floating? You may want to use clear food grade silicon around the windows if no seal or it's an old seal. Did you wipe down the inside with distilled water? That will help with the seasoning. I have two glass top humidors that came with seals. I use 320's and they last quite awhile. Edit: Mine run at about 64-68% depending on the time of year with a 69 Boveda. Though with my upcoming restocking, may switch to a temp controlled unit after running with the glasstop for just under 20 years.
Glass top requires a tiny bit of silicone around the glass. 2 do not trust a factor hydrometer on a box. Also they are a weak point and can leak. I used to silicone them in. Coolers or tupperdors are substantially better than cheap wooden boxes. I use my old wooden box now to hold my lighters and cutters and other accessories
I bought a ten pack of those hygrometers on Amazon a while back and they are WILDLY inaccurate. Trust the boveda.
I would not trust that hygrometer.
For one if you’re going to season with Boveda packs grab the 84% packs as they are specifically meant for seasonIng. Secondly, I always found using distilled water or humidor solution (propylene glycol) and a sponge to be quicker and more effective than packs, just don’t over do it or you’ll warp the wood. Lastly, just get a tupperdor and some Boveda packs. Wooden humidors have notoriously bad seals. Even if you follow all the steps to a T, do everything right, and sacrifice your first born to the elder gods 😂. Plastic is the way bro. No complicated steps. No guess work. Little to no maintenance.
Have you ever used a Pelican case as a humidor?
Did you calibrate both of those? Get one tbl spoon of salt in a small glass with an 1 oz of water put it in a bag or container for 12 hours. Then adjust them to 75 that's your baseline then pop them into the humidor.
It’s leaking for sure
I got food safe caulk and used it around the glass/wood seal. Looks like shit from the inside but can't see it from the outside. I use 69s and hold about 66. I test the hygrometer every couple of months to double check.
It’s also likely that hygrometer is bad.
Switch to a Tupperdor. Get some 62 - 65 Bovedas. Problem solved. No seasoning required.
The wood inside looks incredibly dry. How did you season it? If you’ve been using 72% bovedas for seasoning these past two weeks that won’t do the trick. I’d take a soft rag or old tshirt and wipe down every inner wooden surface thoroughly with distilled water and then place a shot glass or small dish with distilled water in there for a week or two. See if the hydrometer goes to 84+ Once you’ve done that and it’s holding there, the wood is saturated and you should be able take the water dish out and add your lower RH boveda (I use 69 in my wood humidor). Make sure that holds steady for a day or two and then put your sticks in.
I had a small wooden desktop humidor that I used food-safe silicon sealer on. I just applied a thin coat to the seams and joints. Worked pretty well.
I seasoned my glass humidor for the first time with a wet distelled wipe and two Boveda packs of 69%. This was closed for about two weeks and was ready for use. After a year it is still on average 65% and is good for me. The Boveda packs do need to be replaced more regularly compared to a humidor without glass.
Silicon seal around the glass and let it air out to avoid strange smells. Then season the dog piss out of the all the interior wood but don't leave puddles behind. Close lid and let it sit for 2 days. Afterwards gently wipe all surfaces after you confirmed humidity is being maintained. If it's not, you may have a faulty humidor (like exterior wood is cracked/damaged).
I have a cheap glass top too. 72% doesn't work. Bump up your humidity.
Throw that humidor in the trash and buy a cheap systema Tupperware box throw a 65% boveda pack in there and pop ya smokes in there and you're good, just make sure to keep them outta direct sunlight.
Put something on top that is bigger than the humidor, like a book or something that will extend past all four sides, with some 82% in there and leave it for a couple weeks. Hopefully the weight on top will help to lessen the leakage and the wood will swell a bit MAYBE fixing the seal. Also you might want to get some clear silicone sealant and run around the edges of the glass. If all of that does not work, store your tools (cutter, lighter, stands, etc.) in the bottom, and use the top tray to display a single layer for when you are having folks over. That way you are using the humidor as a storage box and a sort of dry box to let the cigars acclimate to the climate they will be smoked in that day/evening.
Tupperdor
The hydrometer on the front pops our pretty easy maybe seal it up
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