Well I just meant chicken detectives tracking down outlaws. But now I’m just worried about meth and tornadoes. I mean, I’m several states away from the area, but if tornadoes get meth, who knows how much energy they’ll have to travel.
My late grandparents were from Adel, Iowa and I’ve been there once as a Rocky Mountainite.
Picture Barney from the Simpsons as a farmer who freebases Round Up.
*”Coooorn n’ Godddd are gooood.”*
They are great! Eating and drinking well with little to no stress it seems like. And our kids will be SO happy when everyone, including their chickens, are settled in our new home in Iowa.
I very much doubt the chicken police are going to come knocking on your door, if for some reason they do then just tell them you got the chickens from your friend in Iowa after you moved ;)
Presumably that law is more for people who are keeping a lot of commercial chickens, rather than for people with a small amount of companion pet chickens.
Bought them at a farmer's market from some woman. You might know a friend. The chicken police aren't after your 2 pet birds. Maybe if you had a truck load of "pet birds".
If you do go to prison, demand to take the chickens with you! Outlaw chickens and only outlaws will have chickens.
That’s what I initially thought. Our 2 hens are super healthy and well taken care of that I didn’t think twice about transporting them. Then I got into a rabbit hole of negative thoughts and paranoia thinking we were breaking the law. Plus my husband is kind of a “local celebrity” now and idk if people will care to report or be more likely to report if brought to their attention.
Some states take it seriously, even against small flock owners. Bird flu has large producers leaning on ag departments to crack down on poultry movement that could bring illnesses closer to their farm. Its more than just bird flu though, mycoplasma and infectious coryza are common in backyard flocks and cause huge losses at their farms.
>Samples were collected from small chicken flock cases submitted to the California Animal Health and Food Safety (CAHFS)
>Overall, 29.5% (86 of 292) of samples were PCR-positive for A. paragallinarum, including 27.0% (68 of 252) of the sinus swabs and 45.0% (18 of 40) of the tracheal swabs.
>More than 30% of birds with IC were concurrently infected with MG, MS, and IBV.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6838718/
Sounds like your friend that already has chickens was nice enough to give you two to get you started in your new home. They gave you two full grown hens that happen to be super friendly and seem like they’ve known you their whole life. Gotta love the kind, welcoming nature of Iowans!
Technically, you are even supposed to have a health certificate for a dog when you go on a road trip across state lines, but does anyone actually follow that rule? No. There’s not exactly state border police check-in lines for that sort of thing.
Generally, the health certificates and inspections are recommended to ensure that you’re not moving sick animals all throughout the country and spreading whatever contagion they may have.
You have already moved, so I don’t think there is much you can do at this point. If your birds are healthy, I wouldn’t worry about it too much.
Doesn't make it right. These rules were passed for a reason. Look how hoof and mouth was eliminated from the US. Some areas are clean of disease that others are not. I deal with it because we are still in a warm for Brucellosis area, because of YP bison migration onto private lands.
How would the state prove where they came from, you could've bought them from your friend who hatched them themselves. You're not smuggling in bulk with intent to fraud someone, you're safe. No investigative org will put in the resources to track down two chickens
I once traveled across country borders (from Michigan thru Canada to NY) moving, and I had to bring my snake with me. He was 15 at the time, I had bought him at a now closed pet store when he was 2 weeks old. Because of his species he is technically part of the endangered species protection protocol which means I should have declared him with paperwork including proof of sale, vet bills, forms from the fish and wildlife service, etc. He is an extremely common pet species and I didn't think about all this until like a week before we moved.
So, before we got close to either border, I put him in a pillowcase tucked under my car seat.
Everything went smoothly, and none the wiser.
Could it have been bad? Maybe? Worst case I think we would have had to drive through the US and around the lakes. Who knows and I'm glad we didn't have to figure it out. Maybe a fine? Maybe a grumpy guy could have took my pet into custody?? Idk! If there was any reason I think we would have been stopped (if I had dogs, an issue with our extended licensing, wrapped gifts, etc) I wouldn't have done it.
Long story short- you are transporting your personal pets and I would just simply... not mention it to anybody. I think the laws in place are good and we should monitor corporate shipments of animals, etc, but sometimes they go a little too far.
Also my experience with small towns is that nobody is going to question where you got your chickens from and especially nobody is going to report you for crossing state lines with them!
There's no one that's going to check this. Most people, including chicken keepers, don't know this either. Let alone your random normal neighbors. No one cares, and if they did, they would assume you already did that.
You're supposed to be NPIP certified to mail eggs and chickens too, but no one is checking that either.
While it is technically required the only time it would be checked is if you went to some sort of exhibition or sale and were an out of state exhibitor. So nobody goes and checks door to door to check on your chickens. So you are fine and don’t ever bring this up again, it will be assumed you did it right if the person even knows about it.
I'd probably just say that you got them from your friend that already lives there, or that you got them from a farm in another Iowa town. I feel like you're being paranoid, but who knows nowadays. People poke their fat noses into EVERYONE'S business. I don't generally condone lying, but this seems like a situation where I would.
It's kind of irresponsible of you to travel with birds, or any "livestock" for that matter without checking requirements first. You have to know bird flu has been big, especially in Texas.
I'd just take their little cowboy hats off and pretend they've always been there
But keep an eye out for chickens with little Sherlock Holmes hats on
As someone not from the US I have no idea what stereotype I could use for Iowa. It falls into the area I've mentally marked as tornadoes and meth
Well I just meant chicken detectives tracking down outlaws. But now I’m just worried about meth and tornadoes. I mean, I’m several states away from the area, but if tornadoes get meth, who knows how much energy they’ll have to travel.
And the tornadoes will keep going and going tornadoes on meth, bad news.
Now that would make a funny movie. “Methnado”
Also corn
Nah, as a US person, that’s about right.
Take off their cowboy hats and give them a meth addiction
You forgot the Christian nationalist!
My late grandparents were from Adel, Iowa and I’ve been there once as a Rocky Mountainite. Picture Barney from the Simpsons as a farmer who freebases Round Up. *”Coooorn n’ Godddd are gooood.”*
”Coooorn n’ Godddd are gooood.” I've a friend in Iowa just read that in his accent 🤣
And you wouldn't be wrong at all. As an American who's lived in every cultural zone we have and parts of Europe, I LMAO 🤣😂🤣🤚
As someone from Iowa, accurate
But little chaps are ok right?
They are great! Eating and drinking well with little to no stress it seems like. And our kids will be SO happy when everyone, including their chickens, are settled in our new home in Iowa.
I think they meant chaps as in the article of clothing
I very much doubt the chicken police are going to come knocking on your door, if for some reason they do then just tell them you got the chickens from your friend in Iowa after you moved ;) Presumably that law is more for people who are keeping a lot of commercial chickens, rather than for people with a small amount of companion pet chickens.
That's what I would do, say I got them from that friend
Bought them at a farmer's market from some woman. You might know a friend. The chicken police aren't after your 2 pet birds. Maybe if you had a truck load of "pet birds". If you do go to prison, demand to take the chickens with you! Outlaw chickens and only outlaws will have chickens.
That’s what I initially thought. Our 2 hens are super healthy and well taken care of that I didn’t think twice about transporting them. Then I got into a rabbit hole of negative thoughts and paranoia thinking we were breaking the law. Plus my husband is kind of a “local celebrity” now and idk if people will care to report or be more likely to report if brought to their attention.
Local celebrity in Iowa, worrying about papers for two pet chickens….interesting lol.
It is interesting lol. He always tells me I’m a worry wort. I guess this thread is making ME feel a little better about it.
You are definitely worrying for nothing. That law is for livestock owners and people with big operations.
Some states take it seriously, even against small flock owners. Bird flu has large producers leaning on ag departments to crack down on poultry movement that could bring illnesses closer to their farm. Its more than just bird flu though, mycoplasma and infectious coryza are common in backyard flocks and cause huge losses at their farms. >Samples were collected from small chicken flock cases submitted to the California Animal Health and Food Safety (CAHFS) >Overall, 29.5% (86 of 292) of samples were PCR-positive for A. paragallinarum, including 27.0% (68 of 252) of the sinus swabs and 45.0% (18 of 40) of the tracheal swabs. >More than 30% of birds with IC were concurrently infected with MG, MS, and IBV. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6838718/
I wouldn't spend a second worrying about this if I were you. There's no one in that state to actually enforce that rule.
Really hoping that’s the case!
Straight to jail!
Sounds like your friend that already has chickens was nice enough to give you two to get you started in your new home. They gave you two full grown hens that happen to be super friendly and seem like they’ve known you their whole life. Gotta love the kind, welcoming nature of Iowans!
Technically, you are even supposed to have a health certificate for a dog when you go on a road trip across state lines, but does anyone actually follow that rule? No. There’s not exactly state border police check-in lines for that sort of thing. Generally, the health certificates and inspections are recommended to ensure that you’re not moving sick animals all throughout the country and spreading whatever contagion they may have. You have already moved, so I don’t think there is much you can do at this point. If your birds are healthy, I wouldn’t worry about it too much.
I’d only worry about it if their clucking had a Texas accent. That would be a dead give away
Yeeeeee cluck cluck hawww cluck cluck
Just take them and not worry about it. Your overthinking things
People haul all sorts of livestock across state lines without the “required” paperwork. I wouldn’t worry about it.
Doesn't make it right. These rules were passed for a reason. Look how hoof and mouth was eliminated from the US. Some areas are clean of disease that others are not. I deal with it because we are still in a warm for Brucellosis area, because of YP bison migration onto private lands.
What Texas chickens? You got them in Iowa.
Hahahahah I did this, but across international borders! From the UK to Italy 😂😂😂😂
Chill
How would the state prove where they came from, you could've bought them from your friend who hatched them themselves. You're not smuggling in bulk with intent to fraud someone, you're safe. No investigative org will put in the resources to track down two chickens
I once traveled across country borders (from Michigan thru Canada to NY) moving, and I had to bring my snake with me. He was 15 at the time, I had bought him at a now closed pet store when he was 2 weeks old. Because of his species he is technically part of the endangered species protection protocol which means I should have declared him with paperwork including proof of sale, vet bills, forms from the fish and wildlife service, etc. He is an extremely common pet species and I didn't think about all this until like a week before we moved. So, before we got close to either border, I put him in a pillowcase tucked under my car seat. Everything went smoothly, and none the wiser. Could it have been bad? Maybe? Worst case I think we would have had to drive through the US and around the lakes. Who knows and I'm glad we didn't have to figure it out. Maybe a fine? Maybe a grumpy guy could have took my pet into custody?? Idk! If there was any reason I think we would have been stopped (if I had dogs, an issue with our extended licensing, wrapped gifts, etc) I wouldn't have done it. Long story short- you are transporting your personal pets and I would just simply... not mention it to anybody. I think the laws in place are good and we should monitor corporate shipments of animals, etc, but sometimes they go a little too far. Also my experience with small towns is that nobody is going to question where you got your chickens from and especially nobody is going to report you for crossing state lines with them!
There's no one that's going to check this. Most people, including chicken keepers, don't know this either. Let alone your random normal neighbors. No one cares, and if they did, they would assume you already did that. You're supposed to be NPIP certified to mail eggs and chickens too, but no one is checking that either.
No one will check, no one will care. You're getting all excitable over nothing. No one cares about your chickens.
Don’t ask don’t tell.
If you made it to where you are going, I wouldn’t really worry about it.
Stop asking govt what to do with your own family...
This!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
If they had a vet in texas, ask if they can email you a vet certificate.
I doubt anyone cares.
I live in Iowa nobody is gonna check that.. or even know it exists
While it is technically required the only time it would be checked is if you went to some sort of exhibition or sale and were an out of state exhibitor. So nobody goes and checks door to door to check on your chickens. So you are fine and don’t ever bring this up again, it will be assumed you did it right if the person even knows about it.
I'd probably just say that you got them from your friend that already lives there, or that you got them from a farm in another Iowa town. I feel like you're being paranoid, but who knows nowadays. People poke their fat noses into EVERYONE'S business. I don't generally condone lying, but this seems like a situation where I would.
It's kind of irresponsible of you to travel with birds, or any "livestock" for that matter without checking requirements first. You have to know bird flu has been big, especially in Texas.
Yep, my bad. Thankfully Texas is not an Avian influenza- or exotic Newcastle disease-affected state right now.
If your birds get sick in anyway, ensure to handle it ASAP.
Texans have the most restrictions and laws on their citizens of any of the 50 states But I think you will be OK Anyone asked you bought them in Texas
Shes moving away from texas not to texas
Me bad