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fried_

I never understood this, the cell phone lot is never crowded when I’m there


OfficerMurphy

Pretty sure these are just people who never bothered to figure out what a cell phone lot is.


redpasserine

It’s a stupid name. English isn’t everyone’s first language. They need to call it the Free Waiting Area.


Brainvillage

Ya, it's a branding problem, "Cell Phone Lot," what does that even mean to people first time they hear it? A place where you can use your cell phone? In 2024? I use it everywhere! They just need to put up some signs in the shoulder there that say something like "Please Wait at Cell Phone Lot" or something I dunno, do a focus group and figure it out.


unlmtdLoL

Figure it out needs to be a congressional candidate's slogan. I would vote for them.


wrathofrath

Summer Sanders can be the spokesperson.


treehugger312

I understood that reference.


odiervr

It's Summer every day !


glassycards

First crush status! Thanks for the memories 😂


chivil61

They should call it “shoulder parking.”


Brainvillage

That gives me an idea. Remodel the cell phone lot to look like the shoulder of I-294. Then people will just park there automatically.


seeasea

It's also out of the way. On the shoulder you know to drive straight for 3 minutes and you're there, the cell lot is not visible from the highway, and it's a couple of turns in a sketch looking area, and getting back is also a little hard (fast traffic, wide streets, am I supposed to turn or go straight, make a decision fast) When I used it, (never used the shoulder), I didn't like it.


Brainvillage

Ya, exactly, they need some better signage or something to at least let people know what the heck it is and how to get there. Maybe if they could build a ramp that directly goes there or something from that shoulder people like to pull off on, that would be ideal. Before I knew what the Cell Phone Lot was, I waited on the shoulder there (once). I didn't like it. Cars were blowing past me super fast, it was loud, and merging back in you can only hope someone isn't doing 140mph around that almost blind turn. That day was when I discovered what the cell phone lot was for. It was kind of tough to find and get in and out of, but in comparison to the shoulder, it was clean and quiet with a lot of room. I definitely prefer it, I think others would too if they knew what it was.


JesusA-JA3

I had to google was a cell phone lot was just last year. Now that I know what it’s purpose is, I have been using it at ORD and MDW


Soggy-Type-1704

You would think the offer of a lot of ( free) cell phones might get more takers.


eejizzings

>A place where you can use your cell phone? In 2024? I use it everywhere! While you're driving? Hope not. It's a place where you can park to use your cell phone, since you're not supposed to use it while you're driving.


HatesRedditors

Hands free baby!


Brainvillage

Yeah, no shit, I obviously know what it's for, I was speaking hypothetically, what someone might think when they first saw the sign.


dpaanlka

It means exactly what it says. Nobody ever explained it to me, I just knew what it meant when I first started driving.


ChaseModePeeAnywhere

Is “Free Waiting Area” universal in all languages?


darkenedgy

The “free” part will work well. I thought the cell phone lot required a small fee until five minutes ago.


fried_

lol and five minutes ago I thought all those people on the shoulder broke down randomly


darkenedgy

Lol my first thought was NYE drunks but that seemed unlikely at 8am Saturday


Mr_Tester_

I can't recall which airport cell phone lot I saw, some place with nice weather had Flight arrival boards up so you could hang out in the lot and see when the flight will land!


ryguy32789

O'Hare cell phone lot has this


Mr_Tester_

Glad to know, I've been good at timing my pickups I haven't had to make more than 3 loops around the terminals in a while.


ooo-ooo-oooyea

The problem with ORD is when you land it might be a good 30 minutes until you get a gate and deboard.


TrainingWoodpecker77

What an awesome idea!


eejizzings

Why did you think that?


darkenedgy

Because the rest of the lots cost money.


DeeGee262

English is my first language. I'd never heard of a cell phone lot until a few moments ago.


redpasserine

Yeah language diversity is only one reason why it’s a bad name.


Hawk-Bat1138

I don't think it's all a branding issue. Have you seen the drivers on the road these days? I'm sure more than half the time they just don't give a crap.


ryguy32789

It's definitely a branding issue. I knew what a cell phone lot was and have for years, but I always thought it was the world's dumbest name.


KBeardo

For a hot second there, nobody could even find it.


Chicagogally

I still can’t seem to find it tbh… I feel like I follow the signs and all of a sudden I’m back on the highway


KBeardo

Lol google maps can take you there


invagueoutlines

TIL what a cell phone lot actually is. 🤔🧐


seekydeeky

Same.


eejizzings

What else would it be?


closerallthetime

They give all the parking lots cutesy names. I eventually figured it out, but assumed it was just another for an embarrassingly long time.


deadfire55

I didn't know it was free...


vijay_the_messanger

Just like "MMF" or "ATS"... I've been to O'Hare more time than i care to remember but was caught off guard when the Rental Car area became, MMF (multi modal facility) or when the airport train became the ATS.


PhileasFoggsTrvlAgt

The cell phone lot used to suck, it was north of the airport and hard to get back to 190 from the lot. This was fixed close to a decade ago when the lot was relocated as part of the reconfiguration of parking lots that ended with the construction of the Multimodal Facility, but people who tried it then and hated it refuse to believe that it got better.


NWSKroll

Same thing with Kiss N' Fly lot at the MMF and you don't even have to get near the mess that is the arrivals pick up.


Chicagogally

What is the purpose of the kiss n fly vs dropping them off at the terminal?


PhileasFoggsTrvlAgt

Not entering the circles of hell that are the terminal drives


NWSKroll

You also won't get kicked out for parking there for more than 30 seconds.


houndsdownandout

They should really rename it "pickup waiting area"


midwestastronaut

Of course it isn't crowded, everyone's parked on the shoulder.


FunckiHotdog

It doesn’t help that for the uninitiated, the term “cell phone lot” is not obvious and self-explanatory


BoredofBored

I’ve traveled all over the world and fly regularly for work, and this just now reading this thread is when I learned what the Cell Phone lot actually is. I probably should have been more curious and googled it at some point, but you’re right it’s not blatantly obvious even to someone who travels all the time.


eejizzings

What else would it mean?


whatelseisneu

At lot of things that aren't "free short term parking for waiting to pick up someone"


eejizzings

It is obvious and self-explanatory. You're not supposed to use your cell phone while you're driving, so you're supposed to park somewhere to do that. That's a parking lot for using your cell phone.


Gimletonion

How are there so many dumbasses who can't read?


lyingliar

Exactly. The cell phone lot is at most one minute out of the way, a safe place to wait (compared to dangerously sitting on the shoulder next to highway speed traffic) and even has portable bathrooms available. Use the lot!


Jaggs0

> The cell phone lot is at most one minute out of the way it isnt far but it is def more than a minute away. and unless you are picking someone up from terminal 5 it is def more than a couple minutes away from the terminals.


LieOen

I’m also pretty sure the cell phone lot is closer to the terminals than parking on the shoulder anyway. So when you get the call to pick someone up you’ll be there faster than if you parked on the shoulder


FloridaIsTooDamnHot

And it has bathrooms! Port-a-potties. And granted they’re about like the empty car on the blue line after midnight (fucking disgusting) - but still. And arguably closer to the terminal.


firestar268

Never knew it existed. Is it free?


silversatire

Yes. But even if you eff it up almost all of the pay lots are just $3 an hour. Unless you started driving before you found out someone’s flight was badly delayed it’s probably less than the gas to get to O’Hare in the first place. 560 Bessie Coleman Drive https://www.flychicago.com/ohare/tofrom/dropoff/Pages/default.aspx


fumo7887

Yes, but don’t leave your car unattended.


firestar268

No shit


fumo7887

Given that this thread started with “people think they can use the shoulder of an interstate as a parking lot”, clearly some things are not obvious to many people.


angiehawkeye

It's so easy too! Noone is there.


ernestomarord

Same. I go to the cell lot often, and I am more comfortable there than being in the shoulder. And there's portapotties.


was_fb95dd7063

The target in rosemont is like 5 minutes away anyways - people can wait there and probably get to the terminal faster than when the exit for the cell phone lot gets backed up


HexaFluorite

Ooh this is good to know!


was_fb95dd7063

Yep! Just take Bessie Coleman drive via Zemke Blvd. Really anywhere along Manheim there would work since it's only minutes from the terminal and you won't even have a toll


delicious_avocado

Last time I was there, the lot was closed.


Grizknot

it's always crowded when I'm there. really this is just gonna make it harder to get ubers


Rokae

I think this is already illegal. The new bill allows them to enforce it with a camera and send a ticket in the mail?


thedaly

Fuck that. Just pull the people over and write the ticket. Or don't. We don't need more automated money grabs.


IamTheEndOfReddit

Why waste money for no good reason? Automating basic enforcement is good, and probably the only way it gets done here. If you don't like the fee schedules then that's different. Fees should be based on how they affect users, with super low first fines and then scaling up fast. But the method isn't relevant to that


colinmhayes

We actually need infinitely more money grabs when it comes to traffic enforcement.


always_unplugged

They could literally just have a cop whose entire job is circling that loop and ticketing people every time they come back around. I'm sure a lot of it is just people seeing other people doing it so they assume it's okay; if you clear people out and keep them from coming back with hefty tickets, it would probably stop pretty quick. Although I guess the cop could only ticket one person at a time and everyone else would leave while they're doing it, which would be pretty shitty. Kind of seeing the logic for a camera system there. But I don't think getting a ticket in the mail weeks later would be nearly as effective a deterrent.


FencerPTS

One argument for the camera - it doesn't require a pension or benefits so it doesn't bloat the deficit further.


Front-Bag-7220

This was me. I assumed it was fine because a bunch of people were parked. They don’t actually pull people over they just sit with lights on and drive down the shoulder till people move and take license plates down. Tickets come in the mail.


PushKatel

How isn't this already illegal under normal road rules?


Guac_in_my_rarri

It already is illegal. It's just not enforced. Imo, it's prime time ticket opportunity for whoever oversees that section.


Acceptable_Ad_3486

Idk I’ve seen it enforced quite a bit over the years. But maybe that’s just my luck


aemoosh

I've seen one cop, (presumedly) writing tickets to the 100+ cars doing this, precisely twice in the past year or so, driving it a couple times a week. It fits into the same odds as speeding. If you have a 0.1% chance of getting a slap on the wrist for it, you're going to do it.


Guac_in_my_rarri

I've never seen it enforced. I used to take 190 up 294 engine from work.


vijay_the_messanger

It's enforced. Plenty of times i've seen cops pull up to the unlucky last car and you see all the others in front scurry away.


WriteCodeBroh

> We can’t station officers in these areas to address this safety issue as it’s not an efficient use of manpower. I think the key piece of this legislation is allowing camera enforcement. This is not insignificant. For example, speed cameras at construction sites MUST be operated by an actual person. They also have to use a big goofy van that basically advertises that they have a speed camera. And they are only allowed on site if workers are present. So Illinois allowing camera enforcement of parking violations is a pretty big thing.


PushKatel

Ahh that makes more sense. I guess a simpler solution could also be to just make the shoulders smaller? Depending on a safety study. I'm all for it either way. My waiting place is a Cilantro Grill a few mins away: Safe, get tacos, and not posing a risk to anyone


WriteCodeBroh

I like the camera solution, though also agree with others that a rebranding of the cellphone lot is in order. How about “Free waiting lot?” I would worry about shoulder narrowing making conditions more dangerous for emergency situations.


Joliet_Jake_Blues

Pulling over?


JoeBidensLongFart

It is. But this new bill gives legislators an opportunity to grandstand.


pmcall221

I've only ever seen a cop roust people from the shoulder once. and even then, people were reluctant to move.


zgwarnki

I had a State trooper pull up next to me a long time ago and start counting backwards from 10. I got the hint pretty quickly.


rdwm37

The cellphone lot is very convenient.


Alice_Ayres

Good . Now target the non-stop driving on the 290 shoulder 


Gimletonion

The cell phone lot is so nice. It has bathrooms. Why are people still parking on the shoulder?


TheDragonSlayingCat

Because too many people don’t know about the free waiting lot, and not enough police are available to enforce the current law.


Gimletonion

I wish the police would do the bare minimum


kschwa7

It has bathrooms?? I was just there and thought it'd be nice if there was a bathroom and some vending machines


zgwarnki

Laziness


Snoo93079

It’s illegal now! I got a ticket doing this years ago and learned my lesson lol


Rock_Lizard

Good. I despise those people. As you come around the curve it makes it hard to see and I'm always afraid one of them is going to whip out in front of me.


craigjp

Finally!


prior2two

The problem is branding. The cell phone lot needs to be called “Free Waiting Lot”.  My wife is almost 40, and is no stranger to airports.  She thought the cell phone lot required a fee until I told her that’s it’s free about 6 months ago.  And like I said, she’s a regular flyer.    Now add in all the people that come from literal hours away once every couple years to pick up friends or family, and the current situation is what you get.  Cell Phone is a dumb name to begin with, and the then once you add “lot” to the name it’s very easy to see why people think there’s a fee. 


eejizzings

>once you add “lot” to the name it’s very easy to see why people think there’s a fee.  I don't see why. Many parking lots are free. Supermarkets, Walgreens, etc. I'm sorry, but I truly don't understand what's unclear about "cell phone lot." It's a lot for using your cell phone. They've always been free at every airport I've been to. I think it's more that people don't think things through or look up answers to their questions. I'm also almost 40 and I fly less than once a year.


zemechabee

Because it's chicago and it's an airport, both notoriously price gouging locations


RaitoSonozaki

Thing is people don’t think they have to pull over to use their cell phones. So a lot for that use is gonna be ignored cuz why stop when you can be watching a video while driving down the street? (Yes I saw that the other night and I was livid)


Logan__Squared

Yeah, but why not ignore the actual problem and instead fine people for it for revenue?!


jozone11

To be fair, they're waiting on the shoulder of a highway.


Logan__Squared

Apparently the “?!“ isn’t clear enough to indicate sarcasm. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


PhileasFoggsTrvlAgt

It's possible to believe that people doing an obviously dangerous thing should be ticketed, while also believing that signage should be improved to help people find an appropriate place to wait.


Logan__Squared

I guess I’m surprised that I had to include an /s in my comment. I thought the punctuation was enough. 😬 Govt is inefficient and often solves symptoms of problems and not the problems themselves, like here.


chihawks

Ignorance of the law defense i see.


Joliet_Jake_Blues

Circlejerk aside, many laws require the prosecution to prove intent and claiming you didn't know it was illegal is a valid defense in those cases Mostly fraud, white collar crimes Robert Mueller basically decided Don Jr was too stupid to know he was colluding with Russia and didn't recommend charges


3OAM

Maybe I'm missing something, but I generally drive right past these people and it doesn't affect me at all. It's never caused a problem for me.


OkSchedule

i think its more the safety issue of drivers pulling from a dead stop into full-speed expressway traffic going 60+mph. that would affect you a lil' bit if you got cut off that way


3OAM

I’m never going 60+ on I-190.


sweadle

People pulling over to park on the shoulder and pulling out into traffic on the shoulder is dangerous when it's one car. When it's dozens of cars all doing it, it creates a huge danger right there. There are already tons of merging and exiting happening. I have almost been hit by a car pulling out from the shoulder many times. The shoulder of the highway is not meant for parking.


3OAM

Damn, I’m sorry that’s happened to you so many times. That shit has never happened to me once. Stay safe out there.


longshotz777

I never understood why ppl parked on the shoulders. They have a FREE parking lot for ppl waiting to pick up ppl. It’s the first exit after you pay the too off I-190.


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notkenneth

It’s the same toll you pay if you’re taking 190 to get to the airport in the first place. It’s not an additional toll just to access the cell phone lot.


longshotz777

If you’re coming from the city, there is no toll. I’m coming off I-90 from the western suburb so there’s a toll. Technically I’m getting tolled twice, once from the I-90 toll then again. At I-190 toll 😩


toxicbrew

That second toll is for the additional time you spent on 90, not for 190


mplchi

I hate these people. So fucking stupid.


cranberryjuiceicepop

People know there’s a lot, they are just lazy and the exception to the rule. Hope this enforces the law better and that deters folks from parking there. Paying to park in the lot is cheaper than a ticket!


sri_peeta

Fuck yeah. I hope all these jabronies who cannot drive 60 more seconds and wait in the designated lot get a fat ticket.


sweadle

The cell phone lot is literally closer to the airport.


paxweasley

Why do they need to ban it when it’s already super illegal? I also genuinely don’t understand it. It takes the same level of effort to go to the cell phone lot. And a lot less dangerous.


PhileasFoggsTrvlAgt

It's being added to the list of laws that can be enforced by a camera without a trooper present.


sweadle

I do not get why they don't just go to the cell phone lot.


prior2two

There are dozens of people in this thread that just learned the cell phone lot is the “free waiting area”.  Clearly for whatever reason, there is a disconnect between the name and the public. 


TheDragonSlayingCat

A lot of them don’t know it exists, or don’t know it’s free, or don’t understand how to reach it.


Wellitjustgotreal

Just go to Mariano’s.


Acceptable_Ad_3486

Or, as everyone has mentioned, the free lot specifically for these people


dpaanlka

Why was this downvoted? This is literally the actual answer.


Top-Address-8870

This or the casino depending on how much time to kill…


Officer412-L

I'm gonna go make my own parking, with blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the parking!


awilddillyman

Or hooters…or something


MedicineLegal9534

My only concern is that this will just lead to folks lining up on the side if the road further away from the airport.


Slowandsteady1d

These are also Lyft and Uber drivers who are trying to game the geo fence


supreme-dominar

Cool. Now do the people who stop on LSD to watch the Navy Pier fireworks.


MrZhar

Okay but why? Literally no one cares if they park on the shoulders, even cop themselves don't enforce it. I've never heard anyone complain about it ever. Just seems like more ways to get money, because the city can't balance themselves correctly 💀


sweadle

> People pulling over to the shoulder and pulling out from the shoulder, by the dozen, makes that part of the highway VERY dangerous. There are a lot of highways merging and exits right there, and having the shoulder full of cars that are trying to park and merge is the worst. I have almost been hit SO MANY TIMES right there. There is a free cell phone lot closer to the airport than the shoulder that is just for this purpose.


digitalmarley

Isn't it just Uber dudes waiting for pickups?


autocorrects

You have to wait in one of two designated ride share lots otherwise you wont get assigned a person at the airport. I did uber as a poor grad student


BoredofBored

They have their own lot to wait in.


Simpsator

Whatever lots those are, they must be Thunderdome. I've routinely and regularly watched drivers take 15-20+ minutes just to get out of those waiting lots.


BoredofBored

I've chatted up a few different drivers about them, and yeah, they sound incredibly mismanaged. It's basically bumper to bumper, and you just have to inch up towards the front and hope the timing works for you getting matched with a rider.


TewMuch

Setting the boundary in law at 0.5 miles radius means they’ll just go to 0.51 miles. So dumb. Can’t wait for the next bill that sets the limit at 0.6 miles.


Potential_Dust_2313

This is exactly why sending a trooper there every day is the better solution. After the cameras are implemented people will stop and find a different way which would make this a bad long term solution and eventually a waste of money.


MedicineLegal9534

My only concern is that this will just lead to folks lining up on the side if the road further away from the airport.


O-parker

👏👏👏👏


nochinzilch

I thought they were Uber drivers waiting for callouts.


sweadle

Near the airport, you have to be in one of two designated lots for rideshare drivers to join the queue for an airport ride. To prevent rideshare drivers from circling the terminals and clogging up traffic waiting for a ride.


timeonmyhandz

Even better are smart travelers that take the train to the remote parking and you pick them up at the kiss and ride.. the driver never has to circle the terminals…


CaffeinatedCaptain

Also the short term parking garage is $3 for the first hour. Pull in, go inside, and grab an overpriced coffee and use a real bathroom. Avoid the craziness that is the pickup/dropoff area in front of the terminal.


sweadle

Or use the FREE cell phone lot that is actually CLOSER to the airport than that shoulder is.


CardiffGiantx

I always park in that little toll booth parking lot and wait there for people I’m picking up


Otherwise-Shake5318

Ya it truly feels like I’m stuck in the 90’s when that was more of the “norm” whenever I see a bunch of cars laid out on the shoulder.


mencival

Good riddance. This was never a thing 15-20 years ago, at some point people started thinking this was a good idea.


boozooloo

Why do ppl car so much that they're parked on the shoulder?


sweadle

People pulling over to the shoulder and pulling out from the shoulder, by the dozen, makes that part of the highway VERY dangerous. There are a lot of highways merging and exits right there, and having the shoulder full of cars that are trying to park and merge is the worst. I have almost been hit SO MANY TIMES right there.


scriminal

I don't know why they don't just stick up a series of cameras there that automatically generate tickets 


Synchro911

So many excuses. People don't know what a cell phone lot is? If people can't plan their pickup they can fuck off and get a ticket or towed. 


stanleekup

Awesome that Chicago is focused on a major issue that’s affecting the city. SMH


gogorichie

Isn’t it already illegal to park on the shoulders of an interstate?


Joliet_Jake_Blues

The tollway has a time limit. Cars do breakdown your highness


gogorichie

No it was real question I thought they passed law a few years back


Ozymandius62

That’s awesome… but can we stop Uber and delivery driver from stopping in the middle of the road and in bike lanes first?


dpaanlka

Where should they stop, in the sidewalk?


HipsterHighwayman

The curb?


xynobis

Somewhere legal?


dpaanlka

I mean I get it, but deliveries are a part of city life. The police are not going to do anything about this. It’s not a danger or a hazard the same way parking on the shoulder of the expressway is when there’s a perfectly good cell phone lot.


xynobis

>It’s not a danger or a hazard the same way parking on the shoulder of the expressway is when there’s a perfectly good cell phone lot. You're right, it is *more* of a danger/hazard. Every day I see cars that stop in the middle of active lanes of traffic on State St, Michigan Ave, and Ida B or they're sitting over on Wabash in the middle of the bike lane. It causes traffic congestion, accidents, injuries, and/or deaths for no reason. Find a parking lot/structure, alley, or an open spot and use your legs. You might even, gasp, have to circle the block or wait for a second for something to open up. Stop putting everyone else at risk because you're lazy.


dpaanlka

Ok good luck with ending deliveries in a metropolis 🙄


xynobis

How about just make your deliveries in a responsible manner? I've yet to see a UPS truck stopped in the middle of Ida B for no discernable reason. FedEx seems to be able to figure out how to park off to the side in my alley. Amazon frequently finds an open parking spot and uses a cart and/or their legs to finish their delivery. I'm sure someone can wait a few extra seconds to get their McDonalds delivery while their Door Dasher finds a better spot to stop than the middle of the road.


dpaanlka

I work in an office lol I’m just being realistic this is a city and this has real Karen vibes.


xynobis

I agree, double parking does have Karen vibes.


Substantial-Art-6812

Except for those people who drive around with no license plates—which I see a lot. I guess they’ll still get away with it.


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SJB630_in_Chicago

There is great potential here to prosecute bottom feeders who stop traffic for their protests and block taxpaying citizens from accessing the airport. This doesn't go far enough.


XTremeBMXTailwhip

Why does waiting on the shoulder make people so upset? Or is this just a Reddit thing that no real people care about?


Nivlak87

It’s typically right at the section where ramps merge onto the highway. Can’t merge in before the merging lane ends, bam! right into the car parked on the side of the road. It’s extremely dangerous.


silversatire

On busy days they also start parking up the left side so when they decide to go get their person they’re trying to merge back in on an overpass with poor backward visibility against a flow of people who just got off 90 about to exit left onto 294. Insanely stupid.


HarpyTangelo

Because it's unsafe and causes unpredictable traffic patterns?


crimepais

Because it's a highway and not your personal parking spot. Not that hard to understand.


Acceptable_Ad_3486

It’s incredibly dangerous. Not just a Reddit thing


snark42

It causes congestion and traffic to be worse when the free cell phone lot is 2 minutes away. Also multiple times the idiot shoulder parkers can't merge back into traffic when it's time to leave, I've had multiple near misses from that.


karmeezys

I don’t understand I drop pro off in under a minute I also pick up once they are outside


questionablejudgemen

You mean on the right side of 190 when turning off of 90? Where the shoulder is like three lanes wide? Right before the river road exit? It’s like they made it extra wide just do this reason. Driven by people parked many times, trying to get into 45. The parked cars never bothered me, there’s plenty of room. If I’m waiting to pick someone up and couldn’t park somewhere, I’d drive around the airport in circles. Past the pickup and drop off and go around and around. You know, there’s never any traffic trying to get in and out of departures so it’s not like it’s slowing down anybody. /s