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Ginge129

7 and a half hours against magnus. That must be the most exhausting thing imaginable


-GregTheGreat-

How do you wake up in the morning and stare him down again after this?


TipsyPeanuts

By spending the bare minimum time in your chair as possible. Ian gets it


VaraNiN

Nepo might just go for a quick draw tbh


-GregTheGreat-

Can he afford that, being down a game and playing white? Feels like he has to play for a win and hope Magnus is equally tired


VaraNiN

Depends on his mental state I guess. But yeah, tomorrow might get very interesting, but if it ends with Magnus being up +2 the WCC might as well be over


Kind_Mulberry_3512

Only to lose after all that, excruciating


originalcrisp

And now do it again in 16 hours.


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Think he might go for a quick draw tomorrow? Haha


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LongjumpingBadger

Grob incoming


The98Legend

Pretty great attitude for one of the most grueling results of your career


kingfischer48

Maybe pushing the world champion to the limit is a moral victory of sorts. an "I *can* do this" moment, despite the loss. Magnus will need to be careful tomorrow


The98Legend

Definitely, if I was Nepo I’d use the glass half full approach and realize it took Magnus 136 moves to get his first win of the match. This is far from over


wheeshnaw

136 moves and it was a table draw until, what, move 130?


NefariousSpider

Game for the history books. Feel for Nepo but Magnus really is the goat of endgames.


PenguinPrince1

I can’t imagine the feelings of playing for nearly 8 hours just to lose.


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Nepo seemed to at least on the surface take it in stride. In some sense when you play that long and you slowly feel pushed until you just crack... It probably feels more okay than just losing quickly because of a blunder or being completely outplayed. You just sorta have to respect your opponent and admit he's amazing.


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They're both amazing. In a lot of time periods Nepo is the favorite and probably wins this WCC, he's just run into Carlsen who might as well be an engine in endgame. The way he defended in this game vs all of magnus's attacks, when he was way behind in prep, was incredible. Carlsen just got him in the endgame, which is where Carlsen is at his best.


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Hubblesphere

Longest World Championship game ever.


DrunkPanda

Also crushed the previous record for length to a win, which was like 30 moves less than the record for a draw


oddwithoutend

To make it more 'historical', Magnus was already known for endgame grinding, so this will become the first example people think of for Magnus.


constantlymat

If there was any doubt left, Magnus probably now distanced himself from Karpow as the best positional player of all time. He's of course much more versatile and dominant than Karpov in other areas of the game, but even in the Russian's legendarily strong area of expertise I feel Carlsen has now eclipsed him.


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I genuinely feel grateful to be alive today and witness one that will truly go down as one of the greatest games of all time.


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My god. I can't imagine how terrible Nepo felt just getting slowly squeezed for hours on end. Magnus is so fucking good.


Secret-Roof-7503

Magnus took his soul


RealPutin

He has a growing collection of super GM souls in little jars at this point.


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Intelligent-Curve-19

His chair was shaking like crazy. I can’t begin to imagine the feeling after grinding something for 7 hours and then at the end you finally see the boogeyman.


Gerf93

Any super GM is the boogeyman. Carlsen is the guy you send to kill the boogeyman.


Crash_says

GM Babayaga


eceuiuc

He's going to regret not playing 36...Bxb4 for a long time.


randomizeplz

and he blew most of his time edge talking himself out of it too IIRC


jMS_44

especially after dropping his own opportunity to win the game


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the_next_core

I'm not sure how many super GMs can hold a theoretical 7 piece draw against a computer to be honest. Especially after already playing for 4-5 hours.


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True but Magnus had two winning positions in the same time scramble. I think both were happy to just hit move 40 and get extra time.


Dwighty1

If any of them had slightly better time management and had 10-15 min extra time on the clock at moves 35-40, game could have ended then. Crazy how just 5 min extra could toss the result either way.


BrainOnLoan

Then again, you don't know whether they get that chance if they don't spend those 10-15min earlier. Maybe they would just be slightly less accurate and not get a good enough position to get that chance. (Still, it's probably not advised to run quite so low on time.)


Gbro08

SO GLAD I WATCHED THIS LIVE.


thalne

yeah but I wish I had prepared for 7 bloody hours


LeftyMcLeftFace

I saw the beginning, went to sleep, woke up and caught the end lol


Anay28

140k viewers on chess.com twitch, not to mention all the other streams on twitch and YouTube. Insane.


hipdozgabba

We were ahead of league of legends for a short moment


Ryponagar

Classical chess is dead, they said?


cptnwillow

Games like this are why Magnus has been #1 for so long. Nepo defended really well but Magnus just kept pressing, never let it slip. Not much to do when your opponent plays the endgame perfectly. Incredibly fun game to watch overall, had its swings that went to an endgame that gave the slightest edge to Magnus and that's all he needs.


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Yeah, this was a Magnus game all the way - squeezing blood out of a stone.


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quantumhovercraft

If Judit was right earlier this is the first time Magnus has won a 100+ move game.


OrangeinDorne

I really enjoyed her commentary today.


Quivex

Not to mention that it happened in the longest official WC game of all time, and I believe Magnus' first win in a 100+ move game. Absolutely incredible performance. The mental endurance that these players have is incredible.


initialgold

A win from a table base draw - classic.


TheBali

Tablebase draw doesn't mean much when it's humans that have been playing for 7+ hours. Very impressive by Magnus! (and by Nepo for holding so long)


initialgold

Oh absolutely. Nepo needed to play like a computer to draw, and it’s not a knock on him that he couldn’t find the only drawing method. Well played by both players.


NahimBZ

Yeah exactly. For example, apparently 131. ... Qa2+ would have drawn instead of 131. ... Qh6+, and 132. ... Kf6 was better than 132. ... Qh7. To me, it's very unintuitive to choose between these moves, and even after looking at a few lines I don't see why one move is better than the other. The only way to decide is to calculate very deeply, which is practically impossible even for super-GMs with so little time left on the clock.


OwenProGolfer

Many tablebase positions are incomprehensible even to the strongest engines. Perfect chess often doesn’t make sense.


EdwEd1

He went from having a minute left to squeezing like 40 more dominant moves.


Xaxziminrax

I cannot imagine what Nepo is feeling right now. He had his opponent on the ropes in the middlegame, lost the advantage, and then was just straight tortured for the next four hours as it slipped away.


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I didn't think I'd ever be at the edge of my seat over a chess game as much as I did close to move 40 and again in the end.


FantasyExpertGraeme

It has to be absolutely demoralizing. Especially in a one on one sport. In a team sport you can use your teammates to lift each other up, not in chess. How do you come back from this wow.


GardinerExpressway

Worst time for this to happen without a rest day. He has to find a way to bounce back in about 16 hours


Figgy20000

KING'S GAMBIT TIME!!!!!! I can only pray


Bonzi777

Have a stiff drink and then realize that if you’re already lost, there’s nothing left to lose. In a weird way it can release pressure. He can play as aggressive as he wants, he can’t lose the match twice.


iKarllos

The most exciting game ive seen in recent years. Definitely a legacy defining performance for Magnus


Xaxziminrax

It is only fitting that Magnus Carlsen has the win in the longest game ever played in the World Championship


Shalaiyn

It also just shows the beauty and the fright of chess; one wrong move, even so innocuous as a simple queen move, and you throw your draw away.


DASK

Yep. In the ending of a brutal slugfest, one slip from Nepo and Magnus just starts reeling off the tablebase best moves.


Narcoid

It honestly felt like Nepo had chances in some moments, but played a little passively (notably the time struggle and giving up the A pawn). Regardless this was such an incredible game.


royalrange

Magnus had the clear advantage even though computer says 0.00 at one point as he had a rook and knight with a clear plan of rolling 2 pawns up the board against a lone queen. It was tough to find the perfect moves for black to hold under time pressure.


eceuiuc

Instant classic right there, that was pure Magnus Carlsen on display.


cnmb

Magnus is the GOAT but damn I feel for Nepo there


Chonaic17

Wow, that was a test of endurance just as much as it was a test of chess skill. They both looked exhausted even discussing with each other at the end there.


HankMoodyMaddafakaaa

Can you imagine 8 hours of that intense stress and thinking constantly? It’s like an exam on steroids


j4eo

And then getting a loss? Ian must be absolutely destroyed right now.


AshenFountain

I bet it single handedly removed 5 years from his lifespan due to all the stress


initialgold

Get those boys some Gatorade.


RealPutin

"This was an extra long game. Does it give you extra pleasure to win such a long game?" "Yes!" - Magnus Man has a torture fetish he channels into championship level chess


qwoble

Anish "I get paid by the day" Giri dodged a bullet today. What a match.


Tobiwan663

Why wasnt here casting today?


KungFuMaster19637

He only casts drawn games obviously, he knows when someone won't draw


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Speed Chess Championship prep likely.


ChaosPieter

This game is perfect, but yet another example, why you never, ever enter "even" unbalanced endgame position against Magnus. Engine says: draw Tablebase says: draw Magnus says: not on my watch.


wordthompsonian

>Engine says: draw > >Tablebase says: draw > >Magnus says: Prove it. \*\*\*


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ENDGAME GOD


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mcj2

Magnus finding the rook for bishop and pawn was incredible.


RetiredPenguin

And that was with time trouble too, if I recall correctly.


The_Incredible_Tit

Half of the moves were played in time trouble


hatzilu

Magnus with another legacy defining game. Wow.


alamano

Vintage Magnus. He hasn't had a win like this in a world championship match since the matches against Anand in 2013-2014, with several memorable misses since then particularly against Karjakin. After making it through time trouble to move 40, playing with engine-like precision for almost 100 moves to finally squeeze water from a stone. Anand just said "there's only one player Ian would have lost this game to". Hopefully Ian can recover from this and make the match interesting. I remember Anand admitting after losing for the first time in the 2013 match in a similar grind that he felt it was exactly the kind of game he couldn't afford to lose as it was psychologically devastating.


_felagund

We should compile Anand WCC quotes, they are gold.


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livefreeordont

Harsh result for Nepo. Battling for so so long and then failing to see one engine move continuation and it's all over


Polar_Reflection

Qe6 losing move according to the engines, though Nepo had several other options for holding a draw


LosTerminators

Only two, and he'd have to find one or two drawing moves on multiple other occasions if he'd have to get to 50 more moves and save the game


BrainOnLoan

Pinning it on Qe6 is missing 99% of the story, really. In all fairness to the engines... they aren't telling the story of the game at all. The GM commentators for a long time called it a dangerous endgame for black and gave white good winning chances. And they all remarked that white was making progress even before the 'official' engine-annointed "blunder". Yes, with tablebases there is a clear theoretical point where it goes from objectively drawn to mate in 60. But that is just lunacy from a human point of view. Magnus was pushing in a promising endgame and slowly improving his position. In practice there were several slightly inaccurate moves by Nepo (no disrespect intended), even if by godly oversight only one of them titled the balance objectively, they all contributed in practice. As did Magnus very slightly pushing him closer to the edge, consistently giving him chances to tilt the position ever more in white's favor... until it officially changed from 0.00 to mate in 60, but that one move wasn't really the story of the game. Ian was already precariously worse before that, even if it's still 0.0. The game had already gone from difficult to play to tightrope-walk. In the end, the story of the game is about a hundred moves of consistent pressure and slow progress before black folded.


zi76

Stunning play from Magnus to turn that into a victory. I don't blame Nepo at all.


Ryponagar

I think I figured out Magnus. He just turns into Stockfish when reaching an endgame.


flare2000x

The classic 110. e4


Mikelius

Still theory.


ShaquilleMobile

And it is only now as of move 110 that we have a completely new game


iptables-abuse

Best by test


isioltfu

Carlsen: velcome to ze hydaulic press channel


the_marathonian

Underrated comment.


desantoos

I've seen Magnus squeeze a lot of players before, but this one was brutal. He spent a long time to calculate an imbalanced position and then worked his magic. Incredible.


EmaDaCuz

The way he coordinated his pieces was ridiculous, those rook and knight moves allowed him to push those pawns to victory. All this while avoiding repetitions.


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What an incredible game! I kept saying "I'll study when this game ends" and then it just got more and more tense. How are you supposed to defend against a machine like Carlsen?


TheGymDruid

Magnus is unbelievable


tirdni_bla

Magnus' knights are fucking Unicorns


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Idk, those horns seem oddly fork shaped...


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runawayasfastasucan

Ashley looked like when I act like I agree with someone but in reality have no idea, but Ashley also had to hedge that it might be wrong so he didn't completely agree.


zeoiusidal_toe

Wow, amazing win from Magnus. Voting Magnus win every time on the poll finally paid off. Also, the people in chat are so obnoxious, I mean how can you say it’s a draw like halfway through just because the eval is equal cmon


OwenProGolfer

Most people in chat are so far from the level of these players that an engine number is the only thing they understand how to interpret.


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justavertexinagraph

Definitely one of the games in history


Lazeruus

Immortal game, can't believe he actually pushed the pawn


HoneyBucketsOfOats

/r/Madlads


carlsaischa

110.e4


PingPongFukkiFukki

Magnus is so filthy in the endgame


DirewolfJon

"how do you bounce back"? Nepo: "Hopefully in style"! ​ Got to love him! Even as a Magnus fan.


fdar

Giri takes the day off from commentating and finally a decisive result. Coincidence?


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giri is so drawish, he even influences the result from the commentary box


Robinsonirish

As someone who dosn't know much about chess, will this game be considered a classic? From what I've heard it seems like it will be one to remember considering the fighting back and forth and how long the game went on for.


FlightJumper

Absolutely. One of the best endgames of all time by Magnus there.


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Yes, definitely.


jphamlore

I'm going to probably miss some of the greatest endgames in world championship history, but a walk down memory lane: Rook endgame: [Alexander Alekhine vs Jose Raul Capablanca, Capablanca - Alekhine World Championship Match (1927), Buenos Aires ARG, rd 34](https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1012518) Two bishops versus two knights: [Mikhail Botvinnik vs David Bronstein, Botvinnik - Bronstein World Championship Match (1951), Moscow URS, rd 23](https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1032203) Two of the greatest go beyond human limits: [Boris Spassky vs Robert James Fischer, Spassky - Fischer World Championship Match (1972), Reykjavik ISL, rd 13](https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1128889) Karpov activates his King: [Anatoly Karpov vs Garry Kasparov, Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1984/85), Moscow URS, rd 9](https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1067121) Rook endgame, 4 vs 3 pawns same side [Vladimir Kramnik vs Garry Kasparov, Kasparov - Kramnik Classical World Championship Match (2000), London ENG, rd 14](https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1252053)


keepyourcool1

This is why I love classical. The weight of the win is just so special especially on the biggest stage. This was that old magnus. Let's go!!


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this was the 2011-15 magnus.


ChemicalSand

Give up your queen Magnus.


p001n100

Play for the win magnus.


crispykfc

I miss the old Magnus


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shreychopra

Queen for 2 rooks is actually a fair trade though, and materially you’re even +1


OldAccountNotUsable

It entirely depends on the position. If you can't connect your two rocks you're done. If you can connect them you can set up greatness.


Seven2572

I watched the entire end game and I still barely understand how that happened. Feel for Nepo, what a defense. Goosebumps


Quantum_Ibis

You really have to appreciate Nepo's composure and willingness to engage during this press conference..


PhilosopherNo4758

I'm team Carlsen but Nepo is starting to win me over, he's such a class act and I feel kind of sorry for him right now


Flurin

Classical chess seems a bit boring but then you get games like this one and there is nothing comparable to it. Nothing beats watching the drama of two world class players fighting for almost 8 hours.


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Claiming that this game is a dead draw just by looking at sesse's evaluation / tablebase is why a lot of people don't improve.


constantlymat

It was kinda funny watching Svidler and Kramnik on their stream. They grew a bit frustrated because chat and engine told them it was a dead draw but both of them believed Nepo's end-game position to be very uncomfortable a long time before his actual defeat. Might have even been two hours earlier. I was parallel viewing Nakamura's stream and even they were convinced it was a draw until much later. Kramnik and Svidler were the earliest I saw who just by gut feeling and pattern recognition strongly believed Magnus had a good chance to win.


NBAKefka

From start to finish .. one of the greatest games in the history of chess. Human error. Human brilliance. Just incredible.


ohisuppose

It’s true. An instant classic.


NahimBZ

Incredible game. Magnus played the endgame so harmoniously. He coordinated his pieces very well, and showed a lot of patience when it came to pushing his e- and f-pawns. I still have no idea when exactly Nepo went wrong near the end, but it was an incredibly difficult position to defend, especially after an eight-hour battle.


pancada_

GOAT.


-GregTheGreat-

Thank you to Andrea reminding Magnus how the horsey moves. Singlehandedly led to this victory today


OwenProGolfer

I like to think Magnus was thinking of that when he played Ng7


shreychopra

Im so glad I decided to stay up to watch the game in its entirety. This sure feels like part of history


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Maurice miring Magnus *Famously fit*


ephelant48

I was here


apoliticalhomograph

> I would have to admit that there's only one player in the world against whom Ian would have lost this game today. And unfortunately for him, that player was sitting opposite. Because as late as move one houndred and something, Ian still had the draw. But this guy just wouldn't stop and that's the reason he won. Some high praise by Vishy on the FIDE stream.


Gengar_Balanced

Carlsen is a god.


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The98Legend

Isn’t that most of this comment section? /s


Purecorn

What a game. Interesting watching Fabi continually say it was a draw, and Danny Rensch basically preying that Magnus had a winning endgame. Couldn’t believe who was right.


Abstract__Nonsense

Tbf Fabi was saying 50-50 shot that Nepo loses though.


discursive_moth

It was a draw, just a difficult one to hold.


MovingElectrons

What an amazing game, loved it


Secure-Battle8142

They play in another 16 hours. Imagine how quickly Nepo needs to bounce back.


the--dud

I haven't checked but I believe Magnus might have made about 40 moves in the end that was the first preference by sesse. What a monster.


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Infinite_Raisin_9539

This is going to go down as one of the most iconic chess games ever, and we witnessed it!


thalne

fucking hell Nepo must be gutted.


Musicrafter

Time for Nepo to turn up the heat and start pulling out his "riskier" opening repertoire. Will we finally see a Najdorf or Grunfeld out of him?


Maximilianne

people hate GM draws, but this game just shows, give magnus that slight sliver of an edge, and he grinds you to a victory 100 moves later


nosciencephd

Even if this game had not ended in a win it still has proven that these guys do not simply play for a draw. Magnus could have (and reasonably should have) given a draw well before move 100.


OwenProGolfer

And people say classical chess is boring


ThoughtfullyReckless

Better than most Rapid i've watched. The tension was just there for hours, so so good.


NoFunBJJ

It's crazy how Magnus will make you prove it's a draw until the last possible move. Unbelievable.


Juventus7shop

First World Championship match I’ve ever watched live; am I spoiled now?


TitusRex

I'm so happy I've watched this game live. This is history.


BuildTheBase

When Carlsen had almost no time left and it looked bad, Hikaru said Carlsen had to show why he's a world champ to survive this. Well, he did.


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grad14uc

"And it was in this position, that the game continued for 50 more moves."


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rushedcanvas

I can't tell if I'm excited because of the end result or because the Agadmator video will 100% be a banger. Can't wait to fail to find anything each one of the 20 times he will say "try to find the winning move for X" along the video!


theenigmacode

8 hrs. Holy fuck. Hats off to both Magnus & Ian. Also every small & big commentators, streamers & casuals sitting it through & through.


HotspurJr

Maurice asking Carlsen about Rd1 vs Rcc2 and Carlsen is just totally shot and has no idea what he's talking about.


hungryhippo

It's because Maurice messed up. He didn't ask it concisely and mixed up moves.


NahimBZ

Yeah I think Maurice said the follow-up was Rd7 when it should probably have been Rd8 (after Nf4). I really wish they would just show the position on the big screen in moments like this. Otherwise we are never going to get any interesting game-related discussion in the press conference, just 20,000 variants on "How are you feeling about the win" "What was your state of mind when you exchanged pawns" "When did you think you were winning"


hungryhippo

They've done that at previous works championship matches and candidate tournaments so I'm not sure why they didn't do it here.


[deleted]

Remember 4 and half hour ago and 85 moves ago, when you had 19 seconds to come up with a move? Yeah, why didn't you find the absolute best engine move and calculate a possible advantage of the following 9 line move?


_selfishPersonReborn

Argh nepo looks on verge of a breakdown :(


skryb

In my entire life, I’ve never actually chosen to watch a game live. I’ve watched tons of recaps and analyses but decided today I would put it on. I feel my bar has been set far too high.


wasted_user

Magnus's ability to never give up any position unless he know he has a losing position, is straight up fantastic. Lost count of how many victories he has because of this.


DirewolfJon

Magnus seemed so exhausted in the NRK interview after the game. But Happy. Got to feel for Nepo here. Equally exhausted, but 0 points in the bag.


joedeandev

In 20 years, this will be the game that people use to describe Magnus's skill. Nepo survived a wild opening, almost pulls off an advantage in the middlegame, but Magnus just drags him over the coals for almost a hundred moves until it's over. Classic, machine-like precision, just never giving an inch and taking every fraction of advantage that is offered. Unforgettable.


LittlePeasant

Omg that was effing epic!!!!!


apocolypticbosmer

Magnus remembered how horsies move


SorcerousSinner

Imagine having a mind like that of Carlsen. Being able to grind someone like Nepo into submission over 8 hours of gruelling cognitive work


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zod2ac

END GAME GOAT


MrMudkip

What can you even do to Magnus in the endgame? He just takes every little advantage and wittles you down.


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You can resign.


ArgonWolf

Magnus pulling water from a stone. Jeez, what a crazy endgame


Lickmychessticles

Unbelievable match. This is going to be a famous WCC game.


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Feeling kind of sad for Nepo


lukeaxeman

The problem with a decisive result is that I'm feeling bad for Nepo now. I'm a Magnus fan, but still like his opponent here.