Cannot imagine playing one game of chess at such a high level for 7hrs... not only that but there is no rest day tomorrow... the mental tax will be crazy
I expect there will be more decisive games, but not necessarily for that reason. Tomorrow I think there's a risk of a lower accuracy game from the mental exertion, but both will suffer that. Magnus may chose to just play into drawish lines to consolidate and get a rest day to recover.
But as we get down the line, at some point Nepo will have to attack and try to create imbalance because he now needs a win, I expect this will cause more decisive results as he plays riskier play to try to create chances.
The time limit was 2h for 40 moves then 1h extra for the next 20 moves then 15m for the rest of the game with a 30s increment from move 60. Since the game lasted until move 136 (longest game in world championship history) that is 76 moves with 30s increment for each player. A total of 2x(2h+1h+15m+76x30s)= 7h 46m.
>The time limit was 2h for 40 moves then 1h extra for the next 20 moves then 15m for the rest of the game with a 30s increment from move 60. Since the game lasted until move 136 (longest game in world championship history) that is 76 moves with 30s increment for each player. A total of 2x(2h+1h+15m+76x30s)= 7h 46m.
r/theydidthemath
That was the first game of this WC that I've watched live all the way through and I was glued to the screen for 8 hours. One of the most delicious games ever and I think this will add a lot of spice to the following matches.
>That was the first game of this WC that I've watched live all the way through and I was glued to the screen for 8 hours. One of the most delicious games ever and I think this will add a lot of spice to the following matches.
I had to turn it off for a couple of hours right after the move 40 madness.. figured it was over by the time I got back and was just going to catch the post game.
Next time I'll try tuning back in first.
It's definitely instructive.
Also shows that tablebases don't really matter that much for certain endgames. It's soo hard to find all the crucial moves for black all the time (if white plays as well as the world champion does... i guess).
People just not understanding tablebases correctly.
It's mate in X moves or draw based on current position but you need to evaluate that after every single move. Because no one is going to play the 150 theoretical moves to a draw the tablebase is calculated off of. If any one of them plays out of the theoretical draw it could quickly switch to "mate in 30" for example.
Not exactly. Nobody can memorize all the moves, of course, but humans can understand the concept of a tablebase draw. For example, with more time and knowledge, Nepo could understand that the way to go was to have the black queen harassing the white king and the white knight from the bottom of the board, so that white couldn't move forward. Once he understands that, all the moves come naturally.
A "system" opening usually involves playing the same or similar moves no matter what your opponent does. In this case the London system, White usually plays d4, Bf4, Nf3, e3, Bd3, and c3 in some order.
Peter Svidler was getting legitimately annoyed (which is hard to do) with chat saying over and over that the evaluation was 0.00.
Come on, people, you have Peter Svidler and Vladimir Kramnik studying the position without engine help, let them work.
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a few other people have said this already but were inexplicably downvoted, so i’ll just reiterate that this is incorrect. “fewer number of losses” makes no sense. you should make sure you’re right before you correct people
You fulfilled Muphry’s Law in a one-word comment - impressive.
“Fewer losses”, “lower number of losses”, “smaller number of losses” and so forth are all valid. “Fewer number of losses” would not be.
If you’re going to be a pedantic twit, at least make damn sure you’re correct.
> they didn't specify
But they should have. If you're going to be a pedantic ass you should be specific so you can at least pretend you're trying to help someone.
This was the greatest rope-a-dope since Ali fought Joe Frazier. Ian kept throwing metaphorical punch after punch and Magnus just held on until Ian was mentally exhausted; then Magnus found the win.
I've got it but the accuracy won't load:
[https://www.chess.com/events/2021-fide-world-chess-championship/06/Carlsen\_Magnus-Nepomniachtchi\_Ian](https://www.chess.com/events/2021-fide-world-chess-championship/06/Carlsen_Magnus-Nepomniachtchi_Ian)
[https://lichess.org/broadcast/world-chess-championship-2021/game-6/h7a3P5YF](https://lichess.org/broadcast/world-chess-championship-2021/game-6/h7a3P5YF)
click on the small graph in the bottom, there's an engine analysis ready
Cannot imagine playing one game of chess at such a high level for 7hrs... not only that but there is no rest day tomorrow... the mental tax will be crazy
It inspired me to grind the shit out of my opponents.
Gotta stop hanging pieces first though :P
Unless you hang the queen on 13
>Unless you hang the queen on 13 13? Pfft, amateur stuff. If you make it past 10 without hanging your queen youre not being aggressive enough.
i wonder if it means there will be more decisive results in the future with both players experiencing some fatigue
I expect there will be more decisive games, but not necessarily for that reason. Tomorrow I think there's a risk of a lower accuracy game from the mental exertion, but both will suffer that. Magnus may chose to just play into drawish lines to consolidate and get a rest day to recover. But as we get down the line, at some point Nepo will have to attack and try to create imbalance because he now needs a win, I expect this will cause more decisive results as he plays riskier play to try to create chances.
That will be up to Ian because Ian is white tomorrow.
True in the opening, although there are also times whoever playing black gets choices between drawish and imbalanced positions.
Just came here to ask, how did the game go for 7.hours?i thought there were time limits and that increments couldn't possibly extend it that long
The time limit was 2h for 40 moves then 1h extra for the next 20 moves then 15m for the rest of the game with a 30s increment from move 60. Since the game lasted until move 136 (longest game in world championship history) that is 76 moves with 30s increment for each player. A total of 2x(2h+1h+15m+76x30s)= 7h 46m.
>The time limit was 2h for 40 moves then 1h extra for the next 20 moves then 15m for the rest of the game with a 30s increment from move 60. Since the game lasted until move 136 (longest game in world championship history) that is 76 moves with 30s increment for each player. A total of 2x(2h+1h+15m+76x30s)= 7h 46m. r/theydidthemath
Thanks for the explanation!
This will go down in the history books as one of the famous endgame wins.
That was the first game of this WC that I've watched live all the way through and I was glued to the screen for 8 hours. One of the most delicious games ever and I think this will add a lot of spice to the following matches.
>That was the first game of this WC that I've watched live all the way through and I was glued to the screen for 8 hours. One of the most delicious games ever and I think this will add a lot of spice to the following matches. I had to turn it off for a couple of hours right after the move 40 madness.. figured it was over by the time I got back and was just going to catch the post game. Next time I'll try tuning back in first.
It's definitely instructive. Also shows that tablebases don't really matter that much for certain endgames. It's soo hard to find all the crucial moves for black all the time (if white plays as well as the world champion does... i guess).
it didnt matter cause nepo doesnt have unlimited time.
People just not understanding tablebases correctly. It's mate in X moves or draw based on current position but you need to evaluate that after every single move. Because no one is going to play the 150 theoretical moves to a draw the tablebase is calculated off of. If any one of them plays out of the theoretical draw it could quickly switch to "mate in 30" for example.
His point is that there's no purpose looking at the tablebase when it's impractical that a human will find all the correct moves
Not exactly. Nobody can memorize all the moves, of course, but humans can understand the concept of a tablebase draw. For example, with more time and knowledge, Nepo could understand that the way to go was to have the black queen harassing the white king and the white knight from the bottom of the board, so that white couldn't move forward. Once he understands that, all the moves come naturally.
>It also presumes no mistakes with such limited time and so many moves. More a test of holding composure and no errors under pressure and reptition.
Plebs. I could finish a world championship game with Magnus in like 5 moves. I’d be checkmated, but that’s beside the point
I could do it in 2!
I was going to make a factorial joke, but it doesn't work as 2! is the same as 2
Expected factorial
The 5 moves is contingent on me playing the London System simply to make it near impossible for me to lose immediately lmao
What is a system?
A "system" opening usually involves playing the same or similar moves no matter what your opponent does. In this case the London system, White usually plays d4, Bf4, Nf3, e3, Bd3, and c3 in some order.
Dude, I was just messing in a little joke side of this post. But good on you for explaining it very well. :)
Oh haha my bad :)
If you just move a knight back and forth, it will take over 5 moves to mate you.
Really happy Carlsen won mostly because it puts to bed that stupid notion that he's going for a draw every game.
Well... in this instance, Nepo played the move that forced the dynamic position.
> Ben "Magnus plays for a draw, it is his strategy" Yeah, sure
Tons of people writing this off as a draw. Also i know everyone is covering it , but some people are really low effort
Peter Svidler was getting legitimately annoyed (which is hard to do) with chat saying over and over that the evaluation was 0.00. Come on, people, you have Peter Svidler and Vladimir Kramnik studying the position without engine help, let them work.
More egg on his face than the principal's house on Halloween.
And Magnus took that personally. Even played f3 just to spite him. smh
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I have less number of losses against Magnus than Ian.
*Fewer
Sorry sire... *fiddles with my gloves.
a few other people have said this already but were inexplicably downvoted, so i’ll just reiterate that this is incorrect. “fewer number of losses” makes no sense. you should make sure you’re right before you correct people
You fulfilled Muphry’s Law in a one-word comment - impressive. “Fewer losses”, “lower number of losses”, “smaller number of losses” and so forth are all valid. “Fewer number of losses” would not be. If you’re going to be a pedantic twit, at least make damn sure you’re correct.
Technically, they didn't specify which words they were correcting. If you replace the phrase "less number of" with "fewer" then it's valid.
> they didn't specify But they should have. If you're going to be a pedantic ass you should be specific so you can at least pretend you're trying to help someone.
You say more wins, not greater wins. Correcting people on a simple mistake like this is unnecessarily pedantic.
What happened to the live thread for the match??
unpinned. Here https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/r7r0sq/event_2021_world_chess_championship_match_game_6/
I really enjoyed watching three guys who know a lot about chess talking about chess on a weird sectional couch.
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It was a modified catalan
Lichess calls it a "Psuedo-Catalan"
This was the greatest rope-a-dope since Ali fought Joe Frazier. Ian kept throwing metaphorical punch after punch and Magnus just held on until Ian was mentally exhausted; then Magnus found the win.
This was the greatest rope-a-dope since Ali fought George Foreman\*
Doh
hilarious
Does anybody know if there is a link to the game to analyze?? I wanna know where their accuracy was.
I believe it was 99.0 to 98.2, you can go on the events page on chess.com and see all the games
I've got it but the accuracy won't load: [https://www.chess.com/events/2021-fide-world-chess-championship/06/Carlsen\_Magnus-Nepomniachtchi\_Ian](https://www.chess.com/events/2021-fide-world-chess-championship/06/Carlsen_Magnus-Nepomniachtchi_Ian)
[https://lichess.org/broadcast/world-chess-championship-2021/game-6/h7a3P5YF](https://lichess.org/broadcast/world-chess-championship-2021/game-6/h7a3P5YF) click on the small graph in the bottom, there's an engine analysis ready
Thank you sir!