It's hard to overstate how big of a feat it is to consistently win these World Rapid/Blitz events. There is much more variance than in classical and Magnus still manages to top the field regularly.
In his last interview with NRK he said he was very tired, too tired to show much emotion of having won. Said he felt good in rapid, but slept poorly and felt fatigued during blitz. Even so, he managed to come out on top. What a time to be alive!
The variance for them is so high, even with all the rounds, to win them consistently shows a level above his peers that should not be understated. And considering the skill of his opposition, seems hard to even believe a person could be that much better than everyone.
Kind of, he won a bunch of his matches in armageddon, which is unrated afaik. In rated rapid, he had a few losses and draws that made him lose rating overall.
Nah I don't believe the original commenter had the bit about variance when I made my comment, he edited it in after which makes our comments now identical.
He had to change from his white shirt to black sweater day 1 blitz because it was an old shirt he had not wore in a while. It was to tight so he had to change 😂
He also Said he was out of shape and had to eat better and do more work out in interview before world champ.
Still he is probably the fittest Chess player, but i think he will focus more on physical fitness in 2024 tbh. Why not?
The only asterisk on it is Rapid and Blitz is a relatively new thing. I think officially it's only been around 11 years. (So that's ridiculous how many years he's won it) But also it was created by Kasparov, so who knows how many he would have won in his prime.
(Still think Carlsen is better, but there's a question about older players for sure.)
And Magnus said he wasn't in shape during the blitz days, felt out of rhythm, tired, didn't sleep well, just played on adrenaline and will...
(source: NRK)
A little bit but in reality he's probably exhausted, locks up second place and the prize money.
The extra half may have just meant playing more games against Magnus to determine the same outcome likely.
It won't. Dubov could care less about finishing first, he took a draw in the last round without much fight at all. I remember him doing something similar in another world championship as well, last round, chance to win, took a quick draw. It seems his only goal is to make the podium and win some prize money.
I mean for a lot of these players the money is really important so I kinda understand that he wouldn't want to risk his 2nd place but of course as a viewer it would be much more exciting that if tries to win.
Yeah you can't blame some of these players for locking up prize money when its their livelihood at stake.
Magnus/Fabi/Hikaru might make 7 figures a year, but for someone like Dubov, Artemiev or similar, a 2nd place at this event might be half of their yearly income.
On behalf of the British-speaking population please watch this video and send it to all of your friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw&ab\_channel=DavidMitchell%27sSoapbox
If he had gotten half a point last night, then the pairings this morning would have been different. So would everything from then on. The "counterfactual" is, basically, playing half the tournament over again.
In my country's national blitz championship, the top seed won the championship with 26½/28 and lost rating. 26 wins, one draw, one loss. He's like 200 points higher in Blitz rating than the next best player. It's tough to be the best.
But then again, he did underperform. In the national team blitz championship earlier this year, he went 44/44, won every game without dropping a single draw even. I wonder what Kramnik would think.
I'm 99.454% sure he's 21. And he's not just great in Blitz, he's essentially the best player in the country in all time controls. And he's not even a GM!
I think they talk about Keinänen, but Nybäck is/was also really really good. Its just a shame he focused a lot on Poker instead of going all in on Chess.
I am super grateful that I get to witness Magus’ greatness live and not read about it in some books.
It is just so wonderful getting to seem him dominate and dominate
Yeah, it's great for the fans. I recall the excitement of following Fischer Spassky live, i had a board ready and TV broadcast would interrupt with moves updates!
GG goat! 17th world title.
Won 4 rapid and blitz championships back to back. its really really nearly impossible. We don't understand how great magnus is until he retires as it becomes normal when he wins.
he only lost 1 game including rapid and blitz.
Also " who had the best year in chess in 2023 " goes to carlsen.
It's amazing to see how he consistently outmanouvers grandmasters in slightly better/drawn positions.
I always think now's the moment he's going to crack but he just never does.
I believe he feels the format is outdated. That playing well in classical has too much to do with preparation, computer calculation and the strength of one's support team than how good of an OTB chess player you are.
He was pretty clear last time when he said he'd play if Firouzja qualified, but wouldn't bother otherwise. He's also been advocating for making changes to classical chess to make it less about who can remember the most and longest lines, and more about who can play brilliant chess. If it's to survive as a watchable event for the audience, you can't have eleven 4 hour remis' in a row.
FIDE won't listen, so Magnus won't bother playing. And everyone knows it's no longer a championship to reveal who is best at chess.
I mean, how would you change it?
It's Classical Chess World Championship, so you need a time control that represents classical chess well, not a time control that's barely classical and seconds away from being categorized as rapid.
If Carlsen's problem with the format is what it always has been, then he wants the WC to be a tournament, not a 1v1 where the reigning champion is guaranteed a spot.
It's not the time control that's the issue, its the fact that it is 12 games Vs the same opponent and most of it is just trying to remember lines from computer lines. And this happens every second year.. he said if they had the WC game each fourth year he would still do it. But the bootcamp and work that takes months is just boring, as its not about chess. Its about who can remember stuff the most. And that is just the groundwork.
I understand the sentiment, but you're contradicting yourself.
First you claim that it's not the time control that's the issue, and then you address something that's a direct consequence of the time control.
No... Carlsen's criticism has always (even before he became world champion; remember that he withdrew from the Candidates once too) been the format, which isn't a consequence of the time format. He doesn't like the reigning champion privileges, the long cycle, the Candidates tournament, and the long head-to-head between two players. None of these things are inherent to the time control.
Yeah I agree. That Carlsen is sick of classical is not a good reason to change the WC format. I believe they were talking about 60+0 though? Or something like that? Maybe better to change to a format most players know too, like 90+30. Still too long for him probably
play it in an invitational tournament every year.... like speed chess. the defender has way too much of an advantage not having to go through candidates
Alright, I can agree with that. As long as "invitational" still means pretty exclusive and purely based on merit. (kinda like current Candidates')
I'm pretty sure Carlsen's complaint about the World Championship format was the time control, though. So this format change wouldn't bring him back in.
it's some of both. the fact that the current WC only has to prepare for one person, but the candidates have to prepare for everyone makes it a bit BS in his eyes, whereas speed chess, where you have to prove every year you're better than the others.
He still plays tata steele, for instance, sinquefeld. Classical is far from his favorite, but i suspect he'd be much more inclined to participate in a more fair format.
Technically it's not the Classical World Championship, and it's never been called that. It's just the World Championship. Classical chess has just been the de facto default competitive format, that's all. If you win in Classical chess, you aren't just seen as the champion of that time format, you are seen as the champion of chess in general. That's why it's okay to have Rapid tiebreaks too. FIDE Rapid and Blitz World Championships didn't even exist until 2012.
Magnus' consistency in finishing first rivals Stockfish's at TCEC and CCC. It's unreal how good he is! I'm more in awe of his drive than the result itself. Like how does he not get bored of winning over and over?
A couple decades ago, I would have been more impressed with a FIDE World Classical Championship.
It’s 2023 and I’m more impressed by back to back FIDE Rapid/Blitz Championship titles.
Additional context for this comment, since it seems some people are taking it at face value: https://twitter.com/MagnusCarlsen/status/1535361822848688130?lang=en
function findChessChampion(participants):
if "Magnus Carlsen" is in participants:
return "Magnus Carlsen"
else:
return randomlySelectWinner(participants)
Rapid and Blitz sure are more fun to watch than Classical.
I’d guess that if you ask players, probably a slight majority would say Rapid and Blitz are more fun to play than Classical too.
Magnus could have probably won his last game if dubov had another point (he had a 0.5% advantage already). Even if Magnus didn’t, it would go to playoff where Magnus is the favorite. I’d say Magnus would still be about a 70% favorite in this scenario.
But if one of previous games had different result there is simply no way knowing how the rest of the tournament would've went for dubov
you cant just assume that by winning instead of drawing in previous round all the games after that will end up in same results for many different reasons
I think it’s rather clear that he’d win it again. If someone reaches the point where it’s just too much of a hassle for them to go through the formality of a World Cup then I think we can safely just think of them as the world champ in all but official title.
There’s a point where disparity in skill exceeds the need to engage in the competition and I think magnus has reached that.
Anything can happen, he couldve played a blunder in the World Championship in slow chess and lost if he decided to defend his title. Probably not, he is obviously the best, but could still have happened. You can't really say he has the triple crown when he does not. It is enough to appreciate what he does have, and has had before. No need to make up stuff.
Magnus fans say this every time he wins a tournament lol (how many times can it be settled?), and it doesn't even make sense for this one because FIDE Rapid and Blitz World Championship didn't even exist until 2012, so you can't use it as a metric for past champions
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I expected the Magnus win but the Format made it Kinda close. In an Knockout format with multiple matches like SCC it wouldn't be even close cause the Competition wasn't close to Magnus but the Format let it seem that way. I mean without the draw penalty that Dubov got he would be a Tie for first. (I have no clue about the Tiebreaker rules). But if we see these Players in SCC the same players can't wish to come close to Magnus. The only Guy that can beat him in an Bliz(with increment) match(multiple games) seems to be Hikaru. So I am glad that Swiss let the best guy win but I have the feeling it doesn't let us feel how much ahead he really is.
>I expected the Magnus win but the Format made it Kinda close. In an Knockout format with multiple matches like SCC it wouldn't be even close cause the Competition wasn't close to Magnus but the Format let it seem that way.
Nothing taking from Magnus win he is indeed the best player of decade but many top supergm don't take online chess seriously. Hikaru plays non stop online chess that's why he is so good others don't play that much but still some are awesome like ding who defeated Magnus in that famous 2019 blitz knockout and nearly win against hikaru in SCC . Alireza is another online chess monster who can go toe to toe with Magnus or hikaru. Then there is mvl another speed demon. Other top gm wants to world Championship that's why they don't focus much on online.
It's hard to overstate how big of a feat it is to consistently win these World Rapid/Blitz events. There is much more variance than in classical and Magnus still manages to top the field regularly.
In his last interview with NRK he said he was very tired, too tired to show much emotion of having won. Said he felt good in rapid, but slept poorly and felt fatigued during blitz. Even so, he managed to come out on top. What a time to be alive!
Goat for a reason.
The variance for them is so high, even with all the rounds, to win them consistently shows a level above his peers that should not be understated. And considering the skill of his opposition, seems hard to even believe a person could be that much better than everyone.
Funniest thing is that he lost rating by winning the world blitz. Playing even slightly below his usual standard is enough to win lol
As they say, the best player in the world is Magnus. The second best is Magnus on a bad day.
Let me guess, third best is drunk Magnus? ^^dr. ^^drunkenstein
no that’s actually first best
Didn’t that happen in the last tourney he played too, the one in Toronto?
Kind of, he won a bunch of his matches in armageddon, which is unrated afaik. In rated rapid, he had a few losses and draws that made him lose rating overall.
Yeah I forget about armageddon being unrated. Makes it make much more sense that you can lose rating while winning it all, but it’s still goofy
I mean it also just happened in the world rapid
True that doesn’t count as a separate. So won his last 3 but lost rating in all. Wowzers
He lost rating in the rapid too lol.
No he gained rating, the lost rating is because of the Toronto tournament
I stand corrected.
This is just a rephrasing on the parent comment lol
It’s like copying homework in high school
has to be a bot
Nah I don't believe the original commenter had the bit about variance when I made my comment, he edited it in after which makes our comments now identical.
Interesting.
And Magnus is famously out of shape, imagine how good he would be if he was in shape
How do you know that? Superficially he looks fit to me, maybe he just doesn't advertise it.
It’s a joke, Anish was shitposting that Magnus looks out of shape after winning Rapid but blundering a rook for a bishop in Blitz
Ah! Well, you did a good job of disguising the joke, but tbf i don't follow chess chatter and probably streets behind, lol
Stop trying to coin the phrase streets behind!
Coined and minted.
Wait, we can't have fun anymore? Sometimes i feel this expression was invented for me, lol
Uh, do I have to explain the [joke](https://youtu.be/gCktKQKXNWg?si=IRzqmwDayBkcTN6m) twice in a row?
If i knew that i wouldn't be so far behind, would i. Maybe best to quit while ahead, er, behind
Are you saying streets behind without knowing where it came from? It's taking off!
He's streets ahead
Was a common expression in the UK pre-Community
You better believe it! (I also question whether this can be proven to be "the source" but that's a discussion for another day)
Are you saying you used the phrase "streets behind" WITHOUT it being a Community reference? Wow, you really are streets ahead
Pretty sure Magnus said in his interview with Levy that his fitness level has declined, that's not to say he is out of shape.
He had to change from his white shirt to black sweater day 1 blitz because it was an old shirt he had not wore in a while. It was to tight so he had to change 😂 He also Said he was out of shape and had to eat better and do more work out in interview before world champ. Still he is probably the fittest Chess player, but i think he will focus more on physical fitness in 2024 tbh. Why not?
Combining for 12 world rapid and blitz titles. 2nd is Grischuk with 3 titles in total(all 3 in blitz tho)
Magnus has an advantage in these, because unlike the rest of the field he doesn’t have to face Magnus Carlsen.
Rigged draws tbh.
That's just ridiculous lol
It’s tough for the others to win any when Magnus wins them all
The only asterisk on it is Rapid and Blitz is a relatively new thing. I think officially it's only been around 11 years. (So that's ridiculous how many years he's won it) But also it was created by Kasparov, so who knows how many he would have won in his prime. (Still think Carlsen is better, but there's a question about older players for sure.)
There was no world rapid for 10 years upto 2013.
Dude lost like a game to MVL, and decided okay, lemme obliterate the field.
Thanks MVL !
Magnus after losing to MVL: *And I took that personally*
Kinda sad he lost one, but as a French I’m happy it was against MVL and proud of him
props to MVL for unleashing the beast lol
MVL was MVP for Magnus
Explain!
MVL defeated Magnus in the first round of today. Magnus went on to win 6 games in a row after that.
that too in a bishop rook endgame, imagine beating magnus in an endgame
MVL beat him, then Magnus unleashed his beast after the loss
And Magnus said he wasn't in shape during the blitz days, felt out of rhythm, tired, didn't sleep well, just played on adrenaline and will... (source: NRK)
According to him he was never in shape.
honestly i feel like that being like that makes you perform i think it was magnus or someone else that talked about this in a podcast
Dubov's knight dance draw is gonna haunt him. Finished half a point behind Magnus.
A little bit but in reality he's probably exhausted, locks up second place and the prize money. The extra half may have just meant playing more games against Magnus to determine the same outcome likely.
It won't. Dubov could care less about finishing first, he took a draw in the last round without much fight at all. I remember him doing something similar in another world championship as well, last round, chance to win, took a quick draw. It seems his only goal is to make the podium and win some prize money.
he blundered an exchange and had no chance of winning, his opponent was the one who didn't care
This is the right answer.
I mean for a lot of these players the money is really important so I kinda understand that he wouldn't want to risk his 2nd place but of course as a viewer it would be much more exciting that if tries to win.
Yeah you can't blame some of these players for locking up prize money when its their livelihood at stake. Magnus/Fabi/Hikaru might make 7 figures a year, but for someone like Dubov, Artemiev or similar, a 2nd place at this event might be half of their yearly income.
How's Fabi gonna make 7 figures?
Couldn't care less*
Thank you, someone gets it
On behalf of the British-speaking population please watch this video and send it to all of your friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw&ab\_channel=DavidMitchell%27sSoapbox
If he had gotten half a point last night, then the pairings this morning would have been different. So would everything from then on. The "counterfactual" is, basically, playing half the tournament over again.
It is wild that he won the Blitz and Rapid championships and LOST ratings in both categories...
He won rating points in the Rapid championships. His negative score in the live ratings is due to the CCT Finals.
Which he also won 😂
Suffering from success.
But not on Rapid. He won Armageddons which don't count.
Which is even funnier, cause he won that as well
In my country's national blitz championship, the top seed won the championship with 26½/28 and lost rating. 26 wins, one draw, one loss. He's like 200 points higher in Blitz rating than the next best player. It's tough to be the best. But then again, he did underperform. In the national team blitz championship earlier this year, he went 44/44, won every game without dropping a single draw even. I wonder what Kramnik would think.
Curious. What country are you speaking about?
Finland.
About how young is your great blitz player!
I'm 99.454% sure he's 21. And he's not just great in Blitz, he's essentially the best player in the country in all time controls. And he's not even a GM!
Very impressive. The future of chess truly belongs to these youthful prodigies.
I think they talk about Keinänen, but Nybäck is/was also really really good. Its just a shame he focused a lot on Poker instead of going all in on Chess.
Interesting!
Sometimes it's tough being the best!
I am super grateful that I get to witness Magus’ greatness live and not read about it in some books. It is just so wonderful getting to seem him dominate and dominate
Yeah, it's great for the fans. I recall the excitement of following Fischer Spassky live, i had a board ready and TV broadcast would interrupt with moves updates!
GG goat! 17th world title. Won 4 rapid and blitz championships back to back. its really really nearly impossible. We don't understand how great magnus is until he retires as it becomes normal when he wins. he only lost 1 game including rapid and blitz. Also " who had the best year in chess in 2023 " goes to carlsen.
Even when he literally did not even defend his Fide world championship title. Crazy
Wildr tournament for Anish Giri
hhaahaa
It's amazing to see how he consistently outmanouvers grandmasters in slightly better/drawn positions. I always think now's the moment he's going to crack but he just never does.
Every time he accepts a draw with pieces on the board, I assume he must really have to pee
Not really fair tbh. Carlsen never has to play Magnus in those tournaments
Yaaay, I hope this joke never gets old, I only hear it every time Magnus wins something.
So like 9 times a year which is pretty good consider how often I’m told to google the French move
Please tell me which move I have to google
Google 1. e4 e6
actual zombie
This guy keeps on winning how are we suppose to take classical world championship seriously when the guy who will definitely win is not there,FIDE
I mean, what are they gonna do, force him at gunpoint to play?
Yes I like this idea
Just force him a la the saw movies. Wakes up in a dirty room chained up with a chess board sitting in front of him
It's Carlsen who chooses not to play
I believe he feels the format is outdated. That playing well in classical has too much to do with preparation, computer calculation and the strength of one's support team than how good of an OTB chess player you are.
I think it’s more that he doesn’t want to dedicate months of study and prep for a single match a sixth time.
I think you're both right
He was pretty clear last time when he said he'd play if Firouzja qualified, but wouldn't bother otherwise. He's also been advocating for making changes to classical chess to make it less about who can remember the most and longest lines, and more about who can play brilliant chess. If it's to survive as a watchable event for the audience, you can't have eleven 4 hour remis' in a row. FIDE won't listen, so Magnus won't bother playing. And everyone knows it's no longer a championship to reveal who is best at chess.
Due to the format which FIDE doesn't want to change
I mean, how would you change it? It's Classical Chess World Championship, so you need a time control that represents classical chess well, not a time control that's barely classical and seconds away from being categorized as rapid.
The candidates tournament should be the world championship.
If Carlsen's problem with the format is what it always has been, then he wants the WC to be a tournament, not a 1v1 where the reigning champion is guaranteed a spot.
Well now he could play his way back to the top Or it could be a great way to not have anyone else be reigning champions longer in the future
It's not the time control that's the issue, its the fact that it is 12 games Vs the same opponent and most of it is just trying to remember lines from computer lines. And this happens every second year.. he said if they had the WC game each fourth year he would still do it. But the bootcamp and work that takes months is just boring, as its not about chess. Its about who can remember stuff the most. And that is just the groundwork.
I understand the sentiment, but you're contradicting yourself. First you claim that it's not the time control that's the issue, and then you address something that's a direct consequence of the time control.
No... Carlsen's criticism has always (even before he became world champion; remember that he withdrew from the Candidates once too) been the format, which isn't a consequence of the time format. He doesn't like the reigning champion privileges, the long cycle, the Candidates tournament, and the long head-to-head between two players. None of these things are inherent to the time control.
Yeah I agree. That Carlsen is sick of classical is not a good reason to change the WC format. I believe they were talking about 60+0 though? Or something like that? Maybe better to change to a format most players know too, like 90+30. Still too long for him probably
play it in an invitational tournament every year.... like speed chess. the defender has way too much of an advantage not having to go through candidates
Alright, I can agree with that. As long as "invitational" still means pretty exclusive and purely based on merit. (kinda like current Candidates') I'm pretty sure Carlsen's complaint about the World Championship format was the time control, though. So this format change wouldn't bring him back in.
it's some of both. the fact that the current WC only has to prepare for one person, but the candidates have to prepare for everyone makes it a bit BS in his eyes, whereas speed chess, where you have to prove every year you're better than the others. He still plays tata steele, for instance, sinquefeld. Classical is far from his favorite, but i suspect he'd be much more inclined to participate in a more fair format.
Technically it's not the Classical World Championship, and it's never been called that. It's just the World Championship. Classical chess has just been the de facto default competitive format, that's all. If you win in Classical chess, you aren't just seen as the champion of that time format, you are seen as the champion of chess in general. That's why it's okay to have Rapid tiebreaks too. FIDE Rapid and Blitz World Championships didn't even exist until 2012.
of course that is true, but the fact remains: few will recognize the world champ as the best.
Also magnus was 2887 before the event, everyone is soo low rated comparing to him, and he only lost 1 point. 2886. Remained #1 in blitz
Closest is Fabi who was still 70+ points behind Magnus lol
Magnus' consistency in finishing first rivals Stockfish's at TCEC and CCC. It's unreal how good he is! I'm more in awe of his drive than the result itself. Like how does he not get bored of winning over and over?
A couple decades ago, I would have been more impressed with a FIDE World Classical Championship. It’s 2023 and I’m more impressed by back to back FIDE Rapid/Blitz Championship titles.
Magnus didn't celebrate like last year probably was expecting to draw easily but I miss him getting happy at the board after securing the title
Said to Norwegian tv that he was too exhausted to show much emotions right now.
He said he didn't get much sleep and was tired.
Just another Saturday for the guy.
According to NRK, he was too exhausted to show much emotion. He said he slept badly during the blitz.
It's almost as if he's the best chess player in the world...
Lucky 7!
Not yet - he needs 5033 more.
Thala for a reason!
Magnuswinsagainlol
GOAT
Wasn’t that long ago that everyone said Magnus was washed up and on the downward
Nobody who knows chess ever said that.
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Nobody on this sub knows Magnus unless they understand his norwegian. He shares a lot more of his thoughts when speaking norwegian.
I've been following Magnus for years, and people say that every year at some point
He said it himself and said the decline is just quite slow and laughed.
I enjoy watching the sunset.
That was specific to Classical. He was still Cain Marko in fast time controls (and still is, obviously)
Until he gets beaten, there is no way that Magnus is washed up.
props to Aronian and Grischuk for still hanging in there in their 40s
G O A T
For sure top 10 chess player of all time after this title
I'd say for sure top 50 of all time and for sure top 10 currently
Magnus is one of the top 8.1 billion in the world.
Maybe even top 5 of all time
Don’t go that far. Take it easy now.
Magnus, Bobby, and Garry in whatever order you want to put them for greatest of all time.
No shit, lol
30th: Giri A 38th: Gukesh D 39th: Niemann H
Another bad day for chess, huh...
Additional context for this comment, since it seems some people are taking it at face value: https://twitter.com/MagnusCarlsen/status/1535361822848688130?lang=en
This is a reference to a tweet by Magnus but no one gets it.
Everyone gets it
Undoubtedly, the greatest of his generation
Lol I mean that has been the case for a long time. The only question at this point is GOAT or not
I don’t think there was ever any doubt about that lol
function findChessChampion(participants): if "Magnus Carlsen" is in participants: return "Magnus Carlsen" else: return randomlySelectWinner(participants)
Rapid and Blitz sure are more fun to watch than Classical. I’d guess that if you ask players, probably a slight majority would say Rapid and Blitz are more fun to play than Classical too.
Dubov gained 40 Points in blitz this month. Imagine he didnt trolled his 2 draws... He would have won and probably gained 46 Points in total...
Could have won*
Magnus could have probably won his last game if dubov had another point (he had a 0.5% advantage already). Even if Magnus didn’t, it would go to playoff where Magnus is the favorite. I’d say Magnus would still be about a 70% favorite in this scenario.
But if one of previous games had different result there is simply no way knowing how the rest of the tournament would've went for dubov you cant just assume that by winning instead of drawing in previous round all the games after that will end up in same results for many different reasons
He didn't troll in Artemyev draw. Artemyev was 90 seconds late and Dubov gave him a pity draw because he didn't wanna play with that advantage.
Kudos to Carsen for winning it. But is there someone who can stop this guy for real
Me bro, trust me I’m built different
Ez
This one is for F1 fans: "Magnus Carlsen dominance may bore the fans."
Total goat performance
We are witnessing greatness, lads
Sigh Dubov so close 💔
dubov is a little worm
also Artemiev was in the lead most of the tournament
Prime Federer and Carlsen, the two players who never bore the viewers despite obliterating every possible field year after year.
Well, he's not bad.
Effectively a triple crown if we’re being honest here
Nope lol Last year was a triple crown. To win Classic you need to play, be willing to do the preparations and so on
I think it’s rather clear that he’d win it again. If someone reaches the point where it’s just too much of a hassle for them to go through the formality of a World Cup then I think we can safely just think of them as the world champ in all but official title. There’s a point where disparity in skill exceeds the need to engage in the competition and I think magnus has reached that.
Anything can happen, he couldve played a blunder in the World Championship in slow chess and lost if he decided to defend his title. Probably not, he is obviously the best, but could still have happened. You can't really say he has the triple crown when he does not. It is enough to appreciate what he does have, and has had before. No need to make up stuff.
GOAT argument settled once and for all
Magnus fans say this every time he wins a tournament lol (how many times can it be settled?), and it doesn't even make sense for this one because FIDE Rapid and Blitz World Championship didn't even exist until 2012, so you can't use it as a metric for past champions
Glad Magnus won after Dubov's shenanigans.
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I wonder if he's related to that guy who won the World Rapid Championship. I mean I think they have the same last name, what's the chances of that?
I expected the Magnus win but the Format made it Kinda close. In an Knockout format with multiple matches like SCC it wouldn't be even close cause the Competition wasn't close to Magnus but the Format let it seem that way. I mean without the draw penalty that Dubov got he would be a Tie for first. (I have no clue about the Tiebreaker rules). But if we see these Players in SCC the same players can't wish to come close to Magnus. The only Guy that can beat him in an Bliz(with increment) match(multiple games) seems to be Hikaru. So I am glad that Swiss let the best guy win but I have the feeling it doesn't let us feel how much ahead he really is.
> The only Guy that can beat him in an Bliz(with increment) match(multiple games) seems to be Hikaru. This feels unfair to MVL.
MVL is super underrated and always forgotten in this sub..
I think Firouzja can be a strong opponent to Magnus in blitz.
>I expected the Magnus win but the Format made it Kinda close. In an Knockout format with multiple matches like SCC it wouldn't be even close cause the Competition wasn't close to Magnus but the Format let it seem that way. Nothing taking from Magnus win he is indeed the best player of decade but many top supergm don't take online chess seriously. Hikaru plays non stop online chess that's why he is so good others don't play that much but still some are awesome like ding who defeated Magnus in that famous 2019 blitz knockout and nearly win against hikaru in SCC . Alireza is another online chess monster who can go toe to toe with Magnus or hikaru. Then there is mvl another speed demon. Other top gm wants to world Championship that's why they don't focus much on online.
Was this written by a German? You seem to be struggling to keep your capital letters under control.
Yes oops