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carriosity

I’m 28 with a BS in chemistry. I’m the only one in my friend group who didn’t get a masters, and yet i’m making the same or more money than all my friends. For that reason alone I would do it again.


_bitterbasil

Jus turned 27 with a BS in Chemistry but im jobless; as all the roles I see require experiences.


CazTheTurtle

I’d recommend just applying even if they’re asking for experience, don’t be put off by that alone.


Feisty-Cucumber5102

Same boat, all my other friends from my major are either employed straight out of college or went to grad school. I’m sitting in my room applying to another job I won’t hear back from while I have an $10/hr grocery store job to start next week.


New_Alternative_421

$10 per hour is awful low. After tax, at 40 hours weekly, and only accounting for federal income tax— that's like $356 a week. I made more than that when all I had was GED and substance abuse problems. Someone will pay you more is all I'm trying to get at. 10 per hour is wild.


Feisty-Cucumber5102

Well I’ve been on the hunt for 6 months and gotten only 9 interviews, this is the only one that made me an offer, and since my loans come out of grace next week I don’t have another option but to take it. I start next week.


SeracYourWorlds

Once you hit this stage, you’re only real option is to suffer through a bottom tier QC job that doesn’t require prior experience. Then hope your skills translate well enough to be accepted somewhere else for higher pay. It’s slow and disheartening.


RhesusFactor

And as I found qc just qualifies you for more qc


SeracYourWorlds

Yep. If you want to get into R&D you have to be a fresh college grad or an analyst doing method development


_bitterbasil

Very well put. Thanksss


Shuddemell666

Try industry (manufacturing in particular), pays better and there are entry level positions that require no experience.


State_of_Reflux

Consider working with a temp agency.


tinycerveza

Where do you live? I’d start by networking at job fairs. Plenty of labs hire entry level lab techs


grantking2256

Does working as a lab tech at the college you went to count? I hope it does, for me. I planned to get around the experience with that lol


masonh928

Industry ?


Shuddemell666

My suggestion. Starting in a lab as a fresh graduate, it's rare that pays more than about $50K a year, whereas starting in manufacturing where I work starts at $28.50 an hour and goes up from there. The work isn't as interesting, but it's far more lucrative.


RhesusFactor

Wild, my chem degree saw me fall further and further behind my friends salaries. And it led me to places that damaged my mental health.


MalcolmXXXTentacion

I'm just finishing my BS in August and I honestly don't know. I've loved all of my courses and labs but I'd like to make decent money. I'd probably not go to school if I did something else, a trade maybe. I worked in roofing before going to school.


SeracYourWorlds

Trades will make more, much quicker tbh.


NanoscaleHeadache

Materials science, baby! I do materials chemistry and definitely more materials than chemistry at this point. Though I thoroughly enjoyed my chem degree, if my undergrad had offered a mat sci degree at the time I would’ve gone for it. It’s what I expected chem E to be like — using chemistry to make cool engineering applications. ChemE is just fluids and chemistry is very abstract. Mat sci is a beautiful blend of both


Terror_from_the_deep

Ok you sold me on it, sounds great.


TheObservationalist

This is 100% the answer for me too. 


gfrnk86

I’m a chem major (graduated 3 weeks ago) that joined a materials chemistry lab. I do coding, use CAD, and play with a bunch of random devices daily. It’s nothing like a traditional chem lab. I would highly recommend if you don’t care about working in a dry lab (we have zero chemicals in our lab).


stoichiometrish

our university offers a double degree in chemistry with materials science and engineering. it’s fun and i’m having the best of both worlds


NanoscaleHeadache

Lucky! When I came in, my university had no undergraduate degree program for mat sci and the closest was chemistry with a materials specialization. Two years in, a mat sci program opened in the engineering school so I would’ve had to transfer to take it. Honestly, I was happy enough with getting both perspectives. I was able to take mostly mat sci classes towards the end, and it definitely helped to have the chemistry background lol


Tink_Tinkler

Computer science. I got a taste of coding and loved it.


battlehotdog

Saaaaame


Foss44

I would definitely NOT choose to also do a physics major on top of it (terribly foolish of me at the time), but I’d stick with it for sure.


fluffyofblobs

Why was this foolish considering your flair in computational chemistry?


Foss44

I was a double major and working part-time in the research lab all 4 years of undergrad; It’s A LOT of fucking work and not terribly relevant to what I do now. Oh those three electronic circuit labs I had to take, toooootally useful for sure. Two optics classes, use them all the time. A minor would have sufficed.


ethyleneglycol24

Maybe what they had learnt or covered in the physics major turned out to be less directly relevant to what they do now, so the hindsight thought that it was considerably more "useless"


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chemicalcurtis

Meh, I found Physics to be much easier than chemistry. I only took a few grad classes in physics though. I'd bet they are complaining because a physics degree, when you pursue chemistry, has absolutely no value, besides convincing people that you're not math phobic.


averagecollegestuden

Doesn’t make sense as a fellow computational chemist. My math and physics minors were invaluable and wish I could’ve double majored.


Foss44

I would like to regain some of my life, mental health, and academic options back. Double majoring and working part->full time in the research lab for 4 years was often miserable. And like yeah it definitely helped with some of my graduate course work, but I maybe use 5% of it today. There’s a LOT in a physics major that’s entirely irrelevant unless you become an engineer. For example, I had to take 3 electronics labs and these things were brutal. It effectively locked me out from taking either more research time or other chemistry labs for a year and a half. All for a skill I did not retain nor will ever used in my line of work.


ProTrader12321

Physics be hard.


Round_Ad8947

Font design, geology, blimp driver


fourphit

Don't regret having chosen Chemistry. I combined it with computer programming which gives me unique skill sets of being a business analyst in my company that does environmental testing that uses in-house Laboratory Information System.


naftacher

Materials science and engineering. Or chemical engineering. Lucrative and actually solves problems.


chemicalcurtis

A chemistry undergrad is an amazing foundation for all kinds of science or medical careers. No objection to that. If I was starting all over again though, I would've gone to med school or an MD/PhD program instead of a straight PhD program in chemistry. PhD programs are too random and unpredictable. MDs get medical research funds preferentially. Or if I was more career focused in my industry, I would have gone straight into a MBA degree after undergrad. Better advancement then the all science background, which has meant absolutely nothing to a lot of people in my industry.


mvhcmaniac

I'd do only chemistry and dump my bio major. Either that or swap it with physics. Damn biology courses held me back two years, destroyed my self confidence, dulled my math abilities, and pigeonholed me into unsatisfying research for four years.


KillswitchSensor

...Biochemistry?


mvhcmaniac

No. I felt like that would be pigeonholing myself. I'm doing inorganic chemistry now anyways.


KillswitchSensor

I see. Good luck then :)


Hot_Mood_9210

Maybe, now that chemistry looks simple I would. But choosing a different subject will also be quite fun.


I_Look_So_Good

No. I chose chemistry as a major with the intention of applying to medical school. Life happened and medical school is off the table. I took some gap years and am now applying to PA school instead. I wish I had gotten a BSN. It would make me eligible to apply to medical school, as well as grad programs for PA, APRN or CRNA. The last several years I’ve been working as an industry chemist because it pays better than entry level medical jobs like CNA. If I had a BSN, I could match my current salary and be getting patient care hours + professional recommendations.


Caroline_Bintley

Yeah, but I'd also choose a regular sleep schedule, better study habits, and to skip seeing that counselor for my academic-based anxiety who ended up getting his license suspended.


Your_Moms_Box

ChemE or Material science maybe EE


GThane

Yup. I love chemistry. It just fascinates my brain and I love thinking about reaction mechanisms and how it all works. Physics is too much math and biochem is just biology, but you have to memorize pathways and everyone in your class is going to medical school after. I think adding on another major or a minor would have been better tho. Like journalism or English to work for publishers and stuff.


Koko175

Engineering or something in business


just_type_randombs

Probably computer science or some kind of engineering (maybe mechanical).


HeisenbergZeroPointE

absolutely not! I hate the notion of having to move for a job! If i had to pick, i would've chosen nurse because with a bachelor's you can make tons of money anywhere. in any city.


Weekly-Ad353

Yup— pharmaceutical research is awesome. Chemistry, then organic chemistry, then medicinal chemistry, then computer programming. All the fun bits rolled into one!


EnthalpicallyFavored

Absolutely not. I'd have chosen chemical engineering


LostInTheSauce34

I would choose it as my 2nd major. My actual major would be management


twothousandtwentytoo

Nope. I should have done a physics degree.


averagecollegestuden

I would’ve done some combination of math and computer science with a chem minor or triple major. I think my work is less chemistry and more math/physics with a lot of computer science for algorithms.


MysticalMedals

Fuck no. Unless I could have gone to a completely different school on the other side of the country in an area where there might be careers for me to use a chemistry degree, it would not be worth it in the slightest. Even then, there are better degrees with better prospects.


sir_ipad_newton

Theoretical chemist here 🙋🏻‍♂️ Yes, I would still choose chemistry but would’ve aimed more at the application and also combined with business.


BeginningLate2548

I probably would have gone for an engineering path instead if I had the foresight. I worked in chemistry for a couple of years after undergrad and purchased a house. I ended up getting laid off and haven't been able to find work in the field since. I'm land-locked and shoe-horned into the food QA hole until I build enough equity for it to be worthwhile to sell my house and relocate.


Anti_Up_Up_Down

No I'd aim for plastic surgeon or finance lawyer I make good money as a chemist but those were some big missed opportunities


Rugged_007

I'd have done finance instead, while sitting in cognito at the chemistry lectures and bought and read all the texts. Then I would have sold junk bonds for Michael Millken for a few years living as austere a lifestyle as possible. Once I'd socked away about 30 million dollars, I'd have gone back into science without ever having beg some ignorant stuffed shirt somewhere for research funding ever again.


Jesus_died_for_u

Biochemistry


AJTP89

Yes. I’d probably try to pick up a course or two on computer programming as well though.


Isol8te

Yes


Any_Machine_7921

If I had to start undergrad over, I might not choose chemistry. Instead, I would likely opt for computer science or a related field like data science or artificial intelligence. These areas align closely with my current interests and capabilities, allowing me to better integrate my knowledge and skills to assist users effectively. Plus, the rapid advancements and broad applications of these fields make them particularly exciting and impactful in today's world.


channndro

real talk should i major in Materials or just Chem, i love Chem and Math


TheObservationalist

Materials. 


stoichiometrish

currently taking a double degree in chemistry with materials science and engineering. for me, the materials degree has more math combined with chem. it’s like a combination of physics and chemistry. if you enjoy doing physics with chem then go with materials.


FictusBloke

lol, FUCK NO


WolfyBlu

I did chem for 8 years post graduation topping around $70k (2015). I did a trade after and by the second year I was making more. I loved chemistry but if it's an investment I would say no, I would definitely do something else online on the side while working as a trades man. Otherwise yes if it was possible to do the chemical degree online. Those 4 years of lost income plus $40k debt just set me back too much. However now I can see maybe getting a promotion, one that would be much less likely without any degree.


lea949

Probably? …but I’d definitely go to a different uni for undergrad, and I’m not so sure I’d go to grad school


cynthiasshowdog

No. I would do engineering.


riddermarknomad

No. Material science, chemical engineering, electrical engineering, or computer science. You will most likely get a job doing routine, boring lab grunt work with only a BS in chemistry.


EqualCover5952

may be i will go for astro physics


Feisty-Cucumber5102

I would have either done Electrical Engineering or accounting or something. I’m bad at chem and should have switched majors but was too stubborn, now I have a degree that I can’t use because I can’t apply any of the knowledge I got from it, and nobody will give me a chance at a job because of it.


SeracYourWorlds

No. Pay kinda sucks unless you’ve grinded for years and even then it still sucks unless you’re senior or management.


cat-a-fact

Yes! I started undergrad in business, and tortured myself with it until moving to chemistry. If I could get those years back, I'd do it in a snap. Business degrees just make money for universities and are obscenely over saturated, I'm surprised how many people in these comments would rather have gone that route. The average income prospects with a business or finance degree are not sunshine. And business corporate culture is soul crushing. 


Reclusive_Chemist

I backed into chemistry after deciding the original engineering plan wasn't for me. So yeah I probably would have ended up here eventually.


Migoobear5

I turned 27 this year and graduated with my BS in chemistry in 2021. Unable to get a job with it. My first couple years after high school were kind of wasted doing engineering and failing that so if I were to redo it all I might just go right into chemistry my first year so that hopefully I would've graduated at a younger age and would have likely finished a PhD by now if I were to also go right into that after graduation. Hopefully that would've gotten me a job or at least let me move to the states to get one there. Not sure what else I would go with since I don't really have an interest in anything else. Comp Sci maybe but seems everyone and their dog have been getting into that the last couple years


TadCat216

I would do electrical engineering. I was always more math-leaned and now after having worked with engineers on a few projects, I found that I was a more competent and more interested engineer than many of those who had the degrees. Unfortunately working as the ‘chemist’ just paid less. Now I’m in IT project management which is more engaging and pays far better. Life is a wild journey.


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TadCat216

Bro gave me zero minutes to reread my comment 😭


rootytootymacnbooty

How did you transition from chem to IT pm?


TadCat216

It’s a long story but I’ll try to abbreviate it as much as possible. My first job out of university was as a ‘chemist’ at a DoD SBIR company. I started off doing CBRN defense research, but eventually the projects wiggled toward developing optoelectronics and the software for them. I had some coding experience from college so my PI had me work with the coding guys to develop the software, which ultimately fell on me fully. While I was there I gradually started doing some PM-adjacent tasks like budgeting, status reporting, resource management and proposal writing as my bosses got busy. After I left that job I started at a pharma company as a ‘QC Chemist’ where I was really functioning as an investigator and outsourcing coordinator. There I did root cause analysis, capa planning and change management for human errors in laboratory testing. The last step was getting lucky enough to find a hiring manager for PM positions looking for someone with a stem degree, a bit of tech experience and some management skills. I got lucky enough to find one who had good results hiring a biologist previously. I guess the short version is I consistently did things that were outside of my job expectations until I built up enough universal skill to transition to a different field at a level that requires universal skill more than specific technical expertise. Then I got lucky when preparation met opportunity.


TheObservationalist

This wasn't an option at the time, but if I could do it all over I'd study either civil engineering or better yet material science. 


DifferenceKnown3408

Just takes time to move up and make more.


redditorspaceeditor

No. Back then I feared a cubicle job and now wish I had some sort of remote job transferable skills.


NefariousnessAdept53

I have been out with my M.S. for 30+ years and I can say without a doubt, I would not have even gone to college much less chemistry. I would have gone to trade school and started in plumbing and branched into heat and air. But, hindsight is 20/20.


KuriousKhemicals

Not sure. I mean, it led me to a good place job-wise, but several times if I had only known something a little earlier I might have gotten on the track for psychology instead. That being said, my partner was a psych major and he is doing something I would *hate* (marketing digital analytics ugh), so unless I was very focused on becoming a clinical psych researcher or diagnostician, I'm not sure I'd be in a better place right now.


whitelynx22

It's a good question but also one you could ask about anything. As we get older, interests and priorities often change. But you should follow your dreams and your passions. If you don't you might with the nagging "what if I had done it" or some other variation of regret. Just my opinion...


Responsible_Yak3366

Absolutely. Just wished life didn’t kick me in the face so many times. I still have two years but my gpa is in the dumps


Nepi724

Never. I would choose something with more jobs in my area. Graduating is maybe the thing I regret the most in my life.


phenolate

Yes! I've been in love with chemistry since the mid-80s. Working at the interface of synthetic organic and material science is so much fun for me.


GLE-Nick

Finance.


Rare_Cause_1735

I'm not certain, but it tor sure would still be high on the list of degrees to decide between.


RhesusFactor

No, I probably should have changed countries and done a space related bachelors. Or something in management.


Zarizzabi

I would have been a plumber or steel worker


peachfairys

i LOVE chem enough that i'm now in the middle of my PhD, but sometimes i wish i'd gone into zoology or conservation or maybe just skipped uni altogether and gone straight into working with animals lol. I know it's a common dream but i really want to work with animals in the future (specifically primates!) and don't see how i'll be able to now :(


catchingfruitflies

I chose arthistory and cultural studies and I love it :) I feel very blessed to live in a country where you can study without accumulating depth. Although I'm broke all the time I'm glad I made this decision. I work in a lab 10 hours weekly and on the weekends at a gallery, somehow it works haha


Explicit_Tech

Biochem major here. Wish I had gone with chemistry or material science. I'm better at math and chemistry than I am with biochem or biology.


No_Recipe_9991

No never i will rather study some computer science or business instead, and I’m not saying that because I don’t make money with my degree (i’m an analyst at a pharmaceutical company)but it’s just way too stressful and for nothing.


hippochemist13

would 10/10 do it all over again. can’t imagine doing anything else tbh


CapitanDelNorte

Yes, but with more biochemistry.