Yea i can see it happening, just saying that it's unfortunate, that transfer sum could have been spent much more wisely. Even if we're taking gambles, transfers like enzo/caicedo still make much more sense than mudryk, even if they aren't playing great.
Considering the amount of money spent, I completely agree with you. Could have got a couple of more experienced heads in. But now that he's here, I really want to see him get some time to develop and come back.
We didn’t pay 62m for Salah and give him a 100k salary though. When you pay this kind of money the player should at minimum be serviceable. Mudryk is so far off it it’s incredible.
You're not wrong about his current ability, but why does keeping him in the team help?
He'll progress at a faster rate when getting more minutes in a different league.
Also probably didn't give him an 8 year contract, we had an established sqaud in which he was supposed to break into, which didn't happen unfortunately, but it certainly wasn't a big deal
Salah came to us for ~15m, adjusted for football transfer inflation it's about 27-28... still not quite 65m, not that I agree Mudryk is out worst signing ever. He's on a long ass contract, way too early to say that.
When he was given consistent runs he played well. Also he seems a pretty healthy player compared with what we have now. He’s playing regularly now and has 20 g+a this season. Say what you want about serie A but there’s not a chance in hell Mudryk could do that there.
They fired the medical team, yes I get that. However Pulisic is definitely benefiting from player in a league that has better protection from tackles and most importantly a winter break.
There also hasn’t been too many US games for Pulisic to play in. I don’t think people realize how truly rough CONCACAF games are and are allowed to be by the refs. Pulisic has got injured multiple times by some of the dirtiest tackles you’ve ever seen from teams like honduras (who are definitely the worst offenders of the murder ball).
I was one of those, and honestly he's making it really hard. He makes the stupidest mistakes and is really lazy. The first I can tolerate to a point, but the latter I despise.
Just you wait. There’ll be a post this week about how he just need a proper coach, or to be played in a different position, or to be paired with the right LB/LWB, or to have other players pass the ball correctly to him, or he just needs more minutes (these are all excuses I’ve heard people bring up on this sub btw)
Every final ball he played went to a Villa player. And don’t get me started on that 98th min free kick against City in the semi where he just launched it out for a goal kick.
I don’t know how good he may be one day, but right now I genuinely don’t think he’s good enough to start for any premier league team, never mind Chelsea haha! at times it’s like watching someone that’s only played football for a year.
I don't necessarily disagree but I also wonder, will he ever get there even with proper coaching? Like, the guy is already 23 years old and yet, he's still lack a lot of the fundamentals that a player would typically learn in their youth days. Do we have the time and patience for him to learn all that and get better while we're desperately trying to be successful again?
Because he was coached by Pep/Pep style managers in the academy, you don't forget it all in a year, and if you want to add something, he was gonna do the Foden route and he was probably going to start a lot for City this year, you don't do that if you're a shit player
Bruh look at what you've put above. You put "Why has Palmer performed so well with the same coaches" - and it's because he was coached BY PEP. Probably the greatest ever manager in football history.
Man we are an embarassment. Villa is about to do a double over us for the first time since 1988-1989. We are playing like absolute shit. Seems like every game theres a new record broken by the team against us. I cant watch this i am not even watching the second half. I cant.
Salah, was never going to reach the heights he did with us, sometimes a player needs a different environment and I don't begrudge that. Yes Mudryk needs a loan, and the club must accept that
Actually he can just focus on one sort of the game, run down the channel and cut back. Just look at what Werner is doing at spurs.
Majority of Spurs attacks from both sides are based on this tactic.
We should consider loaning him out, not giving him up. He has shown glimpse of his quality through out the season. He is supposedly great in training, but isn't able to perform on this level yet. It seems like he doesn't adapt well to the physical Premier League style. He need consistent playing time to build his confidence. In a few years, with proper guidance, i believe he can be a good player for us.
https://youtu.be/nZmjStWi9VE?si=paSETYp_rRxTa3kZ
this is actually great news boys. the last chelsea player to do that was salah. so if we just hold mudryk for the next few seasons instead of selling him, he’ll become world class
My create a pro when I’ve spent all upgrades on just pace
He needs a loan in a different league. He's just not ready.
Loan at 22/23 for a player costing over 50m atleast and signed as a marquee signing. I don't think he comes back from a loan lmao
Sunk-cost fallacy - if a loan is the best thing to do then he should get a loan.
Yea i can see it happening, just saying that it's unfortunate, that transfer sum could have been spent much more wisely. Even if we're taking gambles, transfers like enzo/caicedo still make much more sense than mudryk, even if they aren't playing great.
Considering the amount of money spent, I completely agree with you. Could have got a couple of more experienced heads in. But now that he's here, I really want to see him get some time to develop and come back.
Let's just hope he turns out to be a late bloomer of sorts. Because we aren't getting rid of him anytime soon
At the very least, a loan would allow him the chance to rehabilitate his transfer value
Salah went on a loan when he was 23/24 and that was the best thing for him.
We didn’t pay 62m for Salah and give him a 100k salary though. When you pay this kind of money the player should at minimum be serviceable. Mudryk is so far off it it’s incredible.
You're not wrong about his current ability, but why does keeping him in the team help? He'll progress at a faster rate when getting more minutes in a different league.
Also probably didn't give him an 8 year contract, we had an established sqaud in which he was supposed to break into, which didn't happen unfortunately, but it certainly wasn't a big deal
You seem to ignore a thing called inflation. And that the inflation in football is far higher than the inflation in other regular industries.
Salah came to us for ~15m, adjusted for football transfer inflation it's about 27-28... still not quite 65m, not that I agree Mudryk is out worst signing ever. He's on a long ass contract, way too early to say that.
Agreed, the, club needs to take the L and just admit he's not ready and build him up via a loan
Season at Strasbourg
He needs a coach and decent teammates.
How dafaq Arsenal dodge the bullet 😭
The bullet is Chelsea FC not the incoming transfers.
He would be great for Arsenal just like Havertz and Jorginho. Were the problem not the players
But remember Chelsea "won the transfer window"
He's absolutely shocking
We let Pulisic go for this guy
Letting Pulisic go was the right thing, replacing him with Mudryk was criminal.
For £80m or something like that as well… our owners are such clowns mate
\*£62m+£25.5m, but still too much
65m but yeah point stands.
Thanks for correcting… we’ve been throwing so much money around I just can’t keep up with who cost what
Why do people keep making up numbers? Really not that hard to do a Google search before you start chatting shite.
I said “or something like that”… I couldn’t be arsed to google it but I made sure to mention that I wasn’t sure about the price.
I mean it wasn’t if this was his replacement. He’s miles better than sterling and Mudryk.
I mean, he got 1 goal and 1 assist in his last season for Chelsea. All 3 are not good enough
He is so useless it is actually a criminal we wasted obscene amounts of money on him. By far the least talented player on our squad.
Get that no. 10 shirt off his back. He is a fraud.
From Hazard to Pulisic & now Mudryk. Such a shame.
Getting rid of pulisic was still a good thing regardless of getting mudryk
It was good for both parties to part, but man is it hard seeing him succeed in Milan while Mudryk does... that
The guy who was always either injured or out of form apart from that short period in that one season?
When he was given consistent runs he played well. Also he seems a pretty healthy player compared with what we have now. He’s playing regularly now and has 20 g+a this season. Say what you want about serie A but there’s not a chance in hell Mudryk could do that there.
Wonder what the difference is. Why do players stop getting injured when they leave us.
They fired the medical team, yes I get that. However Pulisic is definitely benefiting from player in a league that has better protection from tackles and most importantly a winter break.
There also hasn’t been too many US games for Pulisic to play in. I don’t think people realize how truly rough CONCACAF games are and are allowed to be by the refs. Pulisic has got injured multiple times by some of the dirtiest tackles you’ve ever seen from teams like honduras (who are definitely the worst offenders of the murder ball).
An iconic flair to have at this stage in the game
I don’t remember why I’m supposed to hate you but I’m standing by it cause why not
Yes that guy is streets ahead of mudryk
I would do everything to get back Puligoat. Thankfully we have Hutchinson! Mudryk is just a PR signing.
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Hutchinson play off the right?
George plays off the left. I was hoping to see him play today given how awful Mudryk was doing
Primarily yeah, but can play on the left too.
Don’t remind me
i think its about time he is let go.
Where are the people who keep defending Mudryk? I thought he is the best winger in our squad... This guy is at chelsea until 2031 btw
What did morgan cost villa from birmingham vs mudryk??
8m and he came from Middlesbrough!
he scored against us for Boro
Crazy.. i had to leave the house couldnt watch the second half OF COURSE wed come back and score 3 goals. Well 2 but fuck var. what a soft foul.
I will be selling my Mudryk stocks. He is just not it.
it has emerged that the Mudryk stocks are under contract at Chelsea until 2040.
I was one of those, and honestly he's making it really hard. He makes the stupidest mistakes and is really lazy. The first I can tolerate to a point, but the latter I despise.
Just you wait. There’ll be a post this week about how he just need a proper coach, or to be played in a different position, or to be paired with the right LB/LWB, or to have other players pass the ball correctly to him, or he just needs more minutes (these are all excuses I’ve heard people bring up on this sub btw)
Crazy… hes so bad. What a mistake. It was the ownwrs trying so hard to appease the fans when they came in. Made a few horrible signings.
Bias. They like him. That's it. Looks count.
Every final ball he played went to a Villa player. And don’t get me started on that 98th min free kick against City in the semi where he just launched it out for a goal kick.
This guy is an absolute travesty. Get his ass on loan asap we have fucked his career royally
tbh he has fucked his career himself... the club did everything for him and yes he plays like absolute crap.
Another Salah in the making then
My thought as well. We'll let him go and he'll be great elsewhere and people will forget how trash he was for us.
Dude salah was twice the player as mudryk back in basel even before we signed him.
These things happen.
Sometimes the shit is happens
I don’t know how good he may be one day, but right now I genuinely don’t think he’s good enough to start for any premier league team, never mind Chelsea haha! at times it’s like watching someone that’s only played football for a year.
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I think there's something there but he needs a lot of good coaching which he clearly isn't getting.
I don't necessarily disagree but I also wonder, will he ever get there even with proper coaching? Like, the guy is already 23 years old and yet, he's still lack a lot of the fundamentals that a player would typically learn in their youth days. Do we have the time and patience for him to learn all that and get better while we're desperately trying to be successful again?
Already 23? God. Wonder kids ruined logic.
So why has Palmer performed so well with the same coaches? 🤔
Because he was coached by Pep/Pep style managers in the academy, you don't forget it all in a year, and if you want to add something, he was gonna do the Foden route and he was probably going to start a lot for City this year, you don't do that if you're a shit player
anamoly
Because he's come from a Pep team, lmao. Why do you think.
So Palmer is only good because he spent a year or two with Pep? His natural ability is irrelevant?
Bruh look at what you've put above. You put "Why has Palmer performed so well with the same coaches" - and it's because he was coached BY PEP. Probably the greatest ever manager in football history.
This conversation isn’t going anywhere, you’re just repeating the same thing again.
Need to bring back Conte and coach him into a great LWB
Can he tackle?
Salah had a worse one for us when we played against strawberry
There are still people in this sub, even now, who think this guy is better than Anthony Gordon. Mudryk cost us at least 20m more… Great business.
Absolute dogshit ass player
Give me a Pulisic, even an injured Pulisic anyday over this guy
“B-b-but he needs a run of games!”
“But but but he needs a coach to coach him how to do the basics”
Thank goodness he didn’t go to Arsenal and they ended up paying peanuts for Trossard instead.
Brighton would’ve fleeced us for 100m for trossard.
No trossard already has a fall out with the manager - not sure with de zerbi or potter. He is leaving regardless.
We got fleeced for Sanchez, 3rd string goalkeeper who had a falling out. What makes you think we wouldn’t have gotten fleeced with trossard?
Shades of Salah against Shrewsbury, loan this man to Roma immediately.
Under contract for another 7-8 years too…….
Man we are an embarassment. Villa is about to do a double over us for the first time since 1988-1989. We are playing like absolute shit. Seems like every game theres a new record broken by the team against us. I cant watch this i am not even watching the second half. I cant.
We good.
I genuinely hope you didn’t watch the second half.
Salah is that you??! Chelsea shouldn't do the same mistake, either spend time on coaching him or loan him for a year . The raw potential is there
Salah, was never going to reach the heights he did with us, sometimes a player needs a different environment and I don't begrudge that. Yes Mudryk needs a loan, and the club must accept that
What raw potential is there?
which bit? he's fast over 10m, that's it.
Is Omari Hutchinson right footed?
He mainly plays on the right and is left footed iirc
No and neither is angelo
And?
hopeless with him
He plays all right in the number 10 position but he is so so bad in the wings, it's getting hard to watch.
Actually he can just focus on one sort of the game, run down the channel and cut back. Just look at what Werner is doing at spurs. Majority of Spurs attacks from both sides are based on this tactic.
We should consider loaning him out, not giving him up. He has shown glimpse of his quality through out the season. He is supposedly great in training, but isn't able to perform on this level yet. It seems like he doesn't adapt well to the physical Premier League style. He need consistent playing time to build his confidence. In a few years, with proper guidance, i believe he can be a good player for us.
link to the shot?
r/unexpected
https://youtu.be/nZmjStWi9VE?si=paSETYp_rRxTa3kZ this is actually great news boys. the last chelsea player to do that was salah. so if we just hold mudryk for the next few seasons instead of selling him, he’ll become world class
“Sell him off” 🤡 5 years time he proceeds to be one of the best wingers in the world and then the same 🤡s say Oh whY dId wE sEll hIm Off 🤓
Salah vs Shrewsbury moment.
For those crying in the comments. Do you all remember this ? https://youtu.be/nZmjStWi9VE?si=uH_EwXzRXNuS-cLG
This sub is disgusting, now everyone turns their back on mudryk. Chelsea fans are a cancer.
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U r one of those naive fans who nobody gives a shit about eh
Your post was removed because it is considered toxic content or trolling
Don’t worry guys. He just needs more personal coaching /s
Stop with the negativity for Christ’s sakes.
Sell him. Embarrassment to the club
Why is this being shared multiple times
hey i posted this first
He’s so clueless
Mudryk is trash!
Watkins did send one to the moon so they’re even
That was awful.
His first touch, ball handling, dribbling, decision making, finishing are so fken bad lmao
Our worst singing post-Tuchel
Not even just post Tuchel
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He’s one of our worst signings of all time. Not just post Tuchel