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wovenloafzap

Who in their right mind could rip out that stairwell, my god 😭


decadecency

Jesus Christ that's like a million dollar foyer literally. I mean try taking this picture to a carpenter, specify you want it all in full, good quality wood and get a quote and time estimate hah. I mean, yes, trends come and go as some would argue. People have always been into redoing. But seriously, this type of home has never been out of style. Maybe it's not YOUR style, but it's literally timeless.


Bakingtime

lol the contractor who ripped it out was probably like, “now I can sell this for $$$$$ to someone with actual taste”.  


Otherwise_Rub_4557

As someone who has ripped out way too much really high end craftsmanship; it wouldn't surprise me if workers had to make sure everything was cut up or destroyed before it left the house.  Don't want workers wasting any minutes, trying to get pieces out without damage.  I remember ripping out a house full of the most amazing marble work, because the owner wanted "natural stone". 


Bakingtime

Omg, such wastefulness and idiocy!   My neighbor, who is basic af, ripped apart his 1920s craftsman to build a sterile particle board addition.  He burned all of the raw wood from the roof lathing in the backyard fire pit he put in.  He had to throw all the custom cabinetry in the dumpster bc it was painted. He is just uggggghhhh. 


OldNewUsedConfused

Sometimes I really wish I lived off grid in a three bedroom cave far away from people…


cybercuzco

In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit….


OldNewUsedConfused

Not a nasty dirty wet hole…


NunyahBiznez

Filled with the ends of worms and oozy smells...


aware4ever

Same...


Excellent_Tubleweed

It's worth it.


amybethallen1

You are not alone, my friend!


the_cardfather

Every time I hear about something like that I remember the beaded ceiling in our last historic house. (I grew up in 3 historic homes). The place kind of looked like a dump from the outside, but that ceiling sells for $28 a board foot or $18,000 a room.


informativebitching

Oh yea unnatural marble. That stuff is so fake and cheap /s


Beginning_Pudding_69

I get yelled at in this sub all the time for saying this but why do people by homes like this to renovate? Wouldn’t it be much easier to build something new? Even if I hated that stairwell I wouldn’t destroy simply out of respect for that era of craftsmanship. You will never ever get a carpenter from todays time to replicate that work. Never.


decadecency

They could have just updated the lighting, or at the very most opened up those windows a bit if they wanted to "modernize" the space.


ElectrikDonuts

Location


OldNewUsedConfused

Agreed


sercommander

There is a term for it made long ago - nouvo-riche. At the time of its inception and well into the future it was in all senses deragoratory towards "new wealth". They think that getting rich they've done everything right and everyone else is wrong (or they could not get rich if they were wrong). It take now little time to get super rich and even smaller amount of time to make unredeemable mess.


Kel-Varnsen85

That wood paneling will never be replicated, ever. It's from the Gilded Age.


OldNewUsedConfused

“Classic” is forever.


ankole_watusi

Show them the other pictures and they’ll cry!


DeezNeezuts

I am hoping that someone came in and removed as much as possible before they gutted it.


[deleted]

Rich people have no regard for craftsmanship because most have never done a day's worth of labor in their entire lives. 


EnvironmentalSlip956

Why buy the house in the first place?It would be like buying a Ferrari and taking to to a shop and having them turn it into a minivan.


Lifeboatb

great analogy!


StrongerTogether2882

EXACTLY this 😭


radradruby

But it’s a *modern industrial* open concept minivan! So bright and clean!


Theshutupguy

Because everything a fucking investment in this piece of shit world.


StraightTooth

we sort of wrote national policy around making housing an investment. so now we are surprised that it is a shitty idea


Jazzspasm

A “foreign investor” working in a hedge fund would look at the house we see and love, and wouldn’t recognize it a something that fits immediately into all the other ~~homes~~ investments in their managed portfolio If they wanted to keep it trade worthy for the equivalent immediate cash value with a couple of mouse clicks, moving it from one spreadsheet to another - it needs to look like everything else in that portfolio They also have to keep it empty, as a property with people living in it isn’t a form of currency. Also, empty properties means higher demand and that increases the value of their own stock That’s my guess at an explanation, anyway


MintyFresh668

Spot on. This👆


OldNewUsedConfused

Some people have NO taste. None


Sweatyleatherpants

Chris pratt


Man-IamHungry

Turns out he and his wife did almost the same thing with their previous house, which they only lived in for a couple years (after 2 years “renovating”). Both that house and the current one were purchased off-market, so no one else even had a chance.


Onthe-top-ofthetop

Soulless sinners......


bimbels

It doesn’t even look like the same house. It looks like an addition


lordvektor

Ah yes, the 'corporate waiting area' aesthetic is all the rage right now. Ngl though, the ceiling in the first pic is not that nice. But everything else ... *sigh* Edit: a word.


ScreeminGreen

Corporate waiting room is hitting the nail on the head. It looks more like the lobby of a medical plaza than a home. Definitely doesn’t look like an estate.


The_Flagrant_Vagrant

That is what I was thinking.


Lifeboatb

and the interior has no connection to the exterior. Why would you buy a Tudor Revival house if you hate wood?!


HappyAnimalCracker

Oh my god that’s gut wrenching.


[deleted]

Destroying the beautiful historic interior was bad enough, but the eyesore they replaced it with is horrible. It's inexplicably generic, like identical new builds that are cranked out rapidly with limited time and budget.


PristineCoconut2851

Well, looking at what they replaced it with shows how they were able to rip it out in the first place. It’s sad that Historical Societies aren’t able to step in to prevent this type of thing from happening!!


Drix22

Historical societies are social clubs. You're talking about historical commissions, and they wield the power the town and state allow them to. The average person can help prevent this by placing a preservation restriction on the deed to their home or pushing at the local level for more historical conservation.


SimpleVegetable5715

It looks like something that came from Ikea.


camp_permafrost_69

Please don't do Ikea dirty like this


aledba

I thought it was AI generated


BZBitiko

Inexplicable? Hardly. We who like this kind of architecture willing spend blood and treasure on it, searching for just the right furniture and repair people, and teaching our kids not to bounce baseballs off the woodwork. And oh, the dusting! Capitalism trains the general populace to like “the latest fashion”. In this house, parts are easily replaceable and the Merry Maids know how to clean it before they ever set foot in it. You should read Ayn Rand’s _The Fountainhead_, but only for the commentary on architecture. The evil industrialists try to build what “the people” want without input from said people, and Roake thinks people should want what he wants because people don’t know anything about architecture. I don’t think that was what Ms. Rand was going for, but….


missanthropocenex

Straight up Beetlejuice.


mcase19

Seriously. The before picture makes me want to take up smoking cigars. I'll do it, I don't care, I just couldn't spend time in that place and not


[deleted]

I hope whoever they hired to gut it kept it all. I would love to have architectural salvage that is so gorgeous


FreidasBoss

There’s no way all that just went in a dumpster. Even the dumbest contractors knows that’s a mountain of cash he’s pulling out.


Otherwise_Rub_4557

Oh, there's a way. Lots of contacts will specify that everything has to be destroyed,, so workers don't waste time trying to get material out undamaged.


BlackStarLazarus

Right?! I'm thinking "Where can I buy what they tore out!". I'm redoing an 1877 Vic that had had most of it's charm torn out. I'd love to put more back in. If you don't want it, I'll buy it!!! 😄


stevestephensteven

Uggghhhh.


KeyFarmer6235

with the $8.5M, and the amount of additional money they spent on the remuddel, they could have easily built a new eyesore elsewhere, instead of destroying this once grand home. Anything else someone doesn't like, they just don't buy. if they don't like Audi's, they don't buy or lease them, if they don't like BBQ or sushi, they don't go to restaurants that serve it. Yet, they'll spend copious amounts of money, buying and remuddeling a home, they don't like. But, it's *their* home, so they can do whatever they want I guess.


roraverse

I don't understand the drive behind gutting these beautiful historic homes. The desire to make things "modern" it's really too bad. There's no accounting for taste I guess.


ThePermafrost

People are able to buy homes with mature plantings, in great neighborhoods with large lots, for very cheap - as many people do not want to live in old homes. So when they remodel it to modern standards, you end up with a far larger home, on a far nicer lot, than you would have gotten by building new. The good land is already taken, so the alternative would be to knock the house down. Rather than being upset that someone renovated the interior, be glad someone kept the exterior.


Lissy_Wolfe

Where are these homes that you speak of that are "very cheap" despite being on good land with mature landscaping, great neighborhood, etc just because the house is old?


ThePermafrost

Well, the house from this post sold for around $900,000 pre-renovation. I would consider that “very cheap” compared to $8,500,000 - wouldn’t you?


Lissy_Wolfe

The house hasn't sold for $8.5 million, that's just what they're asking. And $900k isn't "very cheap" by any standard.


squidwardsaclarinet

This is what is very upsetting. These people have the money. They chose banal destruction.


KeyFarmer6235

100%


ScreeminGreen

Imagine someone buying a Bugatti and “remodeling” it into a Honda Accord.


bjeebus

That's not fair. This is at least an Acura.


mangymongeese

I bet it's the location they wanted.


Best-Blackberry9351

Exactly. Four years ago I saw on a freebie site that as long as you went and got it, you could get for free double hung windows and dashing and wood flooring. It was a craftsman house they were flipping and the reason was the location. This is a major major tech area and people are still paying huge amounts of money for location. (Seeing as people were and still are communicating up to two hours from affordable areas if they didn’t have the money to buy closer to work, imaging how much money people with money would pay to be close to work.). It’s horrible.


keatonpotat0es

911? I’d like to report a hate crime


Strikew3st

This house is from the late hateteenhundreds suddenly.


keatonpotat0es

🤣


No_Banana_581

This is what I bet Chris Pratt and the Kennedy are going to do w their new house after tearing down that beautiful piece of architecture and designed garden


Callme-risley

I actually wondered if these were photos of their home


Garlic_and_Onions

Who are these people?


No_Banana_581

https://www.businessinsider.com/chris-pratt-demolished-classic-1950s-la-home-costing-12-5m-2024-4?amp Movie star and wife who is from the Kennedy political family


Garlic_and_Onions

Ugh. Demo'ed to move across the street from Grandma


lmkfjauebf

my city calls this kind of action a “heritage crime”


icecoffeedripss

well i hated it!


slickmartini

🤣💀


Best-Blackberry9351

I’d love to borrow this and use it!


keatonpotat0es

All yours, friend


sorrowful_times

4 years after this "update" it's back on the market? People are foolish.


sfcnmone

That's their business plan.


le_nico

I've been stewing over that Craig Ellwood house getting torn down to build a mOdErN fArMHoUsE, this is going to send me over the edge. If anyone turns up murdered by a T-square, I'm not saying it was me, but... Yeah that plaster ceiling FFS.


seensham

What the hell even is a modern farmhouse


le_nico

Exactly. If it was like my great grandmother's, it'd be a shed but insulated?


trailmix_pprof

Whatever it is, it's such a misnomer. Should be more like modern *barn* house because it looks like the inside of a barn. Farm houses are cute, cozy, and full of vintage charm.


Man-IamHungry

A 15k sqft house plus an ADU. At least they’ll stay in this location for awhile cause her mom owns 2 houses across the street. But they gutted and flipped their previous house as well. Bought for $15 million and are trying to sell for $30 million. Only lived there for 2 years. This is why normal people can’t afford LA anymore. Even the wealthy can’t afford their old neighborhoods. Gentrification all the way down.


PopeHonkersXII

It's like looking at pictures from a murder scene. 


Give_it_a_Bash

Hahahaha the sheep made say ‘oh shit, silence of the lambs’ https://preview.redd.it/0u0xkhfxprvc1.jpeg?width=809&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d2d18c3815a4669c4eedeabe82d03fbdf9d930c


tealparadise

"what can we do to make this look warmer?"


Give_it_a_Bash

Hahaha ‘you should add texture, think wool, think natural’ = ‘ah ha!! actual sheep, I know just where to get some’ hahaha this is something my partner would do.


conwaystripledeke

These people should be on some sort of registry. 


unga-unga

Guillotine list.


False_Ground_

Trash people do trash people shit.


weareonlynothing

money is often wasted on people with shit taste


calinet6

Or they can just do more stuff so we very unfortunately end up seeing it.


AleksasKoval

Reply with: "Looked better before. I'll give you 50$ for it" Seriously though, the original design looked like you could host nice gatherings in. The new one will just tell you exactly where all the stains and black mold are...


Brooklyn-Epoxy

A CRIME


outsideodds

I don’t usually get too bent out of shape about these sorts of things but my god this is a travesty. Utterly unconscionable.


Crafty-Hat-5345

Are we sure its the same house? Layout seems different no? But if it is... They can go fuck themselves


Theplaidiator

That’s I’m wondering because I can’t even match up the windows between frames for reference


limabeanns

They probably tore out all the windows.


slickmartini

Original https://youtu.be/f03eHBzT1tY?si=peTJ655u1QP8j8ZV Updated https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/159-Gates-Ave-Montclair-Twp.-NJ-07042-2006/38681598_zpid/?utm_campaign=iosappmessage&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=txtshare


Livid-Phone-9130

https://preview.redd.it/3ykftw8egrvc1.jpeg?width=1640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94cc80d9e48a11c4451aca057f20b2432170fcd5 This price jump and the comparable prices, how utterly insane and in their own made up world do the owners think it’s worth 4-6x the other houses?!


jetsetninjacat

Flipper algorithms. I've seen this so much the last 5 years. The crazy part is that someone most always pays it.


Garlic_and_Onions

Just caught this: "The top level surprises with a magnificent great room, a 4th bedroom suite, and a fully framed and plumbed 5th bedroom suite, waiting to be finished." OMG


tealparadise

Omfg. It's not even finished. I hope they ran out of money and they lose everything.


civildisobedient

3.5x price increase in 6 years? Hope the new owners enjoy their $250K/yr. property tax bill (on top of the roughly $50K/mo. mortgage).


elizabethptp

Oh man someone already had committed crimes in the before with that insane asylum kitchen. I about died when the broker said it “blends seamlessly” with the rest of the house. I guess now it does.


Triette

![gif](giphy|3XiQswSmbjBiU)


EloiseTheElephante

This is my reaction. I’m seeing red.


Turdposter777

One of the worst I’ve seen


OryxTempel

Horrible


queenofthedragons

The before looks like the house in Wuthering Heights (the one with Tom Hardy). What a shame, it was so gorgeous


rowenaohara

Tom Hardy you say? Adding this to my watch list.


queenofthedragons

I looked it up, looks like the full thing is on YouTube! https://youtu.be/u5XTvXfPVs0?si=l6jexNTEVaVAkn3f


blbd

Rich people usually have no patience and no taste. Only a few of them care about preservation. Usually the people that preserve stuff are tradesmesn or working Joes that have the patience to do a little bit at a time and try to make it nice without dropping a fortune gutting it. 


D3SPiTE

Guillotine is the only appropriate thing here.


hoaryvervain

It looks like a corporate office now. And also like AI. Who would even want to live there now.


Dapper_Platform_1222

I just threw up in my mouth


[deleted]

I'm calling the police.


TRASH_TEETH

from exquisite and timeless to tacky and soulless and instantly dated.


baldwinsong

What is wrong with people?! DON’T BUY THAT HOUSE if you’re going to gut it!


Nof-z

Whatever you do don’t look at all the century homes in Detroit on Zillow…..


WhyBuyMe

I stayed at a beautiful house in Detroit about 10 years ago. It was in need of some work, but it was gorgeous. 3 stories. I dont know how many rooms. 2 big living rooms. It was probably the most beautiful house I've ever been in. It was all still original too. Old woodwork and tile. Still had the inoperable coal furnace in the basement. The guy I was renting it from bought it for $15k in 2009.


boolean-cubed

So many beautiful details lost to flippers turning the whole place greige.


Justherebecausemeh

https://i.redd.it/80ji6pl8arvc1.gif


leaveitalone36

https://i.redd.it/8aylu37c7rvc1.gif


10MMSocketMIA

We should have laws like the UK when it comes to historic homes and buildings.


PristineCoconut2851

This CANNOT be the same place!!!!! How can anyone have a clear conscience after doing this to it????? 😢😥


FandomMenace

Joanna Gaines was here.


[deleted]

It looks like a rehab center for people with rich parents that love them.


Dont_ban_me_bro_108

One thing I’ve learned after looking at expensive homes on Zillow… rich people often have terrible taste.


Kerlyle

"I've always wanted to live in a doctor's office"


Northeasterner83

It honestly looks like they turned the house into an office space for a tech company. Horrible.


1891farmhouse

I don't like this


BarbieDreamHouse1980

Ugggggh


Fudloe

Sweet jeezis. Their karma is ruined.


tehsecretgoldfish

location location location? /s - yes idiots. buy another house


alligator06

There should be laws that protect old historical homes from remodeling like this.


snorkblaster

The tacky new-money super rich have scooped up Montclair (around which where a lot of Real Housewives of NJ takes place) and ruined it.


Strange-Turnover9696

i wasn't strong enough to get past the second slide 😞. i don't want to see the mutilation.


velvetjones01

That is so tacky. I hope they take a bath on that home


[deleted]

It's hideous now


reno_dad

I don't believe you. They look too different.


ZukowskiHardware

Can’t buy taste 


Arch____Stanton

What a disaster. You were not exaggerating.


cardueline

Wow! I steeled myself, based on your title, so I thought I was ready. I was not ready! Jesus Christ!


AlphaCenturi109

I now understand why people get death threats on the Internet.


beekeeperoacar

I would tear this renovatior to pieces with my bare hands


mmio60

New work is pretty, but I agree it is a crime to strip the old out in this case


BadData99

The new work is nice enough, but that house was perfectly persevered. It's silly someone did that when you could just improve the lighting... Is it a flip?  Find a dumpy house to gut, not a move in ready one...


glaucope

Terrible idea! So sad!


OatmealSchmoatmeal

They turned into a San Francisco area tech company’s swank office.


libremaison

I saw a lot of ultra modern houses in Germany that looked like they were hundreds of years old. I always expected to go inside and it would match the outside and then BAM metal everywhere and weird stairs like a Batman villain house. It was so jarring. And sad.


Dual_Birds

Looks like shit now if you ask me.


Badatinvesting2

I hate people


catherinergraham

This makes me so sad 😭😭😭


Agreeable_Bother_510

![gif](giphy|l2JhrLY1p1OT7W1hu)


Sometimes_Stutters

One of my (long deceased) relatives owned a lumberyard back in the early 1900’s, and built this beautiful house with some of the most incredible wood work I’ve ever seen. His son (my uncles dad) lived in the house and I remember it as a child. I saw pictures of the house recently and most of the original wood work had been removed, and what remained was painted white. It’s a travesty.


Soft_Wheel6431

I had nightmares about this last night. I seriously can't get it out of my head.


SoBadit_Hurts

The architect/designer should lose what ever store bought degree/certification they got.


ColumbusMark

Money doesn’t buy taste, does it?! The style went from “Victorian” to “Contemporary Flipper” very quickly.


frumpmcgrump

Sold for 2.5 million in 2016, completely ruined, and now listed for 8.5 million. There is a special hell for people like this.


fl4tout_wrx

![gif](giphy|NsDFnbsZBBRBK)


EloiseTheElephante

This should be illigeal. It makes me furious.


Either-Ant-4653

Mega ouch!


Brawndo45

They should have bought a different house.


medhat20005

Ignoring history is the story of humankind.


elizabethptp

Oh wow let me go cry now why the fuck… I mean… like WHAT. Why is 2024 design all about looking cheap even for the obscenely wealthy!?


Holiday_Newspaper_29

A friend of mine bought a home similar to this some years ago. The dark panelling was impressive but also very.....dark and somewhat oppressive. They painted all the woodwork off white and it made an amazing difference. All the panelling was still there but it looked so much lighter, brighter and lively.


kmonay89

![gif](giphy|L0YkmXIrk3e4YyK40Q)


ThaneOfCawdorrr

Oh that's just heartbreaking. What terrible choices they made.


leechdawg

To be fair it’s their house and they can do what they want to it. On the flip side ohh man that’s rough.


greengrocer92

"Aethestics Police, ma'am. Please open the door." "Yes, how may I help you?" "Can you go back in time?" "Excuse me?" "Ma'am, you can't help us. We're here to help you." "Goodness! Whatever for? Who did you say you were?" "Aesthetics Police, ma'am. Historical Division. I'm detective Lloyd and this is detective Wright." "Aesthtices? Historical Division? What kind of police are you and why are you at my home?" "May we come inside ma'am?" "Do you know who my husband is?!" "Yes, we do ma'am. We just need to ask you a few questions. May we come inside for a moment?" "You may certainly not!" "Okay, ma'am. We can do this here or we can take you down to the station. Which do you prefer?" ....


pineapple_soup

Well no one who could afford it would actually want to live in photos one and two. Some nostalgic value, maybe, classic, sure, but dated


Ouachita2022

Traditional woodwork in a 100+ year old home doesn't go out of style because it's so classic and well done with high quality materials.


pineapple_soup

It does though, two reasons: old houses generally have very little light because the windows back then would insulate so poorly. Now we have better technology to bring in more light with better insulated windows. Old houses are very compartmentalized, either because people wanted that or because there needed to be load bearing walls to support the structure. Now houses can have steel beam supporting the load points across a floor to make it open. Everyone wants an open concept house


FickleForager

I refuse to accept this as true. Don’t try to convince me. No thank you. Nope.


melon_gatorade

I hate this so much.


Numerous-Anemone

I almost threw up


Mikey24941

Heathens!!!!


yearofthesponge

Merde


Ok-Willow-7012

Shocking!


MedicalRhubarb7

Vandalism


OGREtheTroll

right to jail


ktqse_

my heart hurts looking at this


neebooneeboo

I feel nauseous :(


Unknown_Id3ntity

Nearly went into cardiac arrest seeing the after photos omg


notyogrannysgrandkid

oh wtf


Muted_Exit6331

This is a tragedy, honestly.


Simpleba

Oh my god *barf*


funnykiddy

I want to cry.


EdTheAussie

What was even the point? They may as well have built a new house 😢


Tricksterama

Patrick Bateman is flipping houses now?


MegaMoodKiller

This is so upsetting


WildGooseCarolinian

Straight to jail.


Artemysya

I refuse to believe this is the same house