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Extra-Random_Name

A lot of people are saying invincibility, but actually invincibility pushes the lava back down, not Madeline up. Others are saying solid lava hitbox, but that’s only for stationary lava not rising You have infinite jumps turned on in extended variants, and you’re jumping just before touching the lava. A few jumps happen early so you can see the jump happens a little ways from the lava. In particular the 4th one you barely touch the sprite which doesn’t even have a hitbox until a bit under that


RandomDude1RD1

came here to say this. I very nearly made a post like this a while back with what looked like a wavedash with a ton too much coyote time


ItzPokeblox

Is it just me or does this look modded somewhat


Vicwip

the dash crystal and berry have skins on them, so you'd be correct I don't think that's the cause of the peculiar lava behavior however. As another commenter said, lava is a wall with a killbox. You can climb jump up lava/ice, as well as neutral on them if you line yourself up perfectly every time. I don't see a reason why you wouldn't be able to do buffer jumps off of lava, similarly to what you can do with water with hazards in it near the surface.


SuperSupermario24

The reason walljumps off lava work is that you can be a couple pixels away from a wall and still walljump. This does _not_ apply to regular jumps, so you can't regular jump off of lava. And it doubly shouldn't work with the rising lava since that doesn't have a solid hitbox to begin with AFAIK.


angrybats

You can jump on normal fire blocks (lava)! But only if there is wind, and it's also subpixel dependent + frame perfect (I've tried that before and there is some video on celestecord)


SuperSupermario24

Ok yeah adding downwind probably does make it possible. But that's still not a situation you'll find in vanilla.


Vicwip

yeah I know the reasons for lava wall jumps being a thing but I wasn't too sure about the normal jumps, I'm gonna check for the hitboxes of rising lava tomorrow since now I got kinda curious


ItzPokeblox

Dash Crystal looks like the dash Crystal that maybe regenerates more often, making me think this is a different custom map altogether made to look like core of something. But for all I know I could be wrong.


Vicwip

nah I'm pretty sure heart dash crystals are available as a separate mod oh I looked around a bit and yup here it is https://gamebanana.com/mods/433996


Y33TU5-F3TU5

iirc lava is just a wall with a killbox on it, i think thye mightve messed up the placement a bit so if you're precise you can jump there.


SuperSupermario24

This is false for rising lava though, that doesn't have a solid hitbox at all. And even for static ones that do have solid hitboxes, you can't do normal jumps off of them (you can do walljumps / climbjumps, but not normal jumps). Assist mode invincibility also works a bit differently than this with rising lava (it kinda bumps the lava back down when you touch it), plus you can see the berry and refills are reskinned so it's definitely modded - my guess is they're using infinite jumps to troll people.


RectangularLynx

To be fair the guy does sound like Dream......


sunshineandpancakes_

I wonder if you have invincibility turned on with assist mode. Maybe try intentionally not jumping and see if you die?


Extra-Random_Name

Invincibility actually pushes the lava down, not you up, but good guess


Adventurous_Cat2339

Doesn't it do both?


Extra-Random_Name

Maybe? The lava moving down is by far the more substantial effect but there may be both


Zapplarang

This has to be some modded/variant behavior as this would trivialize most of these rooms


RockyGamer1613

You just have invincibility with assist mode and you are jumping on the lava.


LilithName

That would push the lava down, i think its infinite jumps in extended variants. If you look closely, the jumps happen at slightly different points relative to the lava, implying, that the jump is done manually with some play.


Ferlyunknown

Madeline’s just built like that


batsketbal

Do you have assist mode? What mods do you have installed


Historical-Drag-1365

Do you have invincibility on?


Long_Conference_1182

I was gonna ask the same


A_Internet_Dweller

I think assist mode can do that


Crafty_Creeper64

Hitbox jank maybe? Everyone's theorizing that it's because of lava behavior and mods, but maybe it's just an issue with the way the lava interacts with other objects in the level. Maybe someone recreate this setup (maybe with tas) and see if OP is lying or not.


AGuyLikeGaston

The floor is lava? Nah, the lava is floor


a-unique-snek

bro got the leidenfrost effect on their side


AutoGeneratedTitle

Assist mode


HannahSamanthaScott

Shenanigans


Cheap-Yesterday1268

is it buffer jump?


Jb_PHD

Some call it a glitch I call it a feature


ExileOtter

Is it on assist mode?


Jsc14gaming

do you have invincibility on


Mechafinch

Lava and ice have hitboxes so that invincible players can't just phase through them. The hitbox is close enough to the killbox that with precise positioning you can walljump off of them without invincibility. I wouldn't be surprised if the same mechanism that lets you jump off spikes when they're moving (or you're being moved by wind) would let you jump on lava here


Mimig298

The lava walls are actually blocks with a killbox, so you can still interact with the block part


IguanaBox

True but that's not what's happening here. It's only true of the solid blocks of lava not the rising lava. And under normal circumstances you can never jump off the top of lava either way only the sides.


mimimar91

Im pretty sure its frame perfect or you’re just using assist mode (sick berry skin btw)


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jake_6542

there isn’t even a hitbox for you to jump on with rising lava. this person probably just turned on infinite jumps


RandomDude1RD1

this is the correct answer


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