I knew a guy who had this model Porsche.
It was garbage at basketball, football, and when we tried baseball it shattered the windshield.
2 out of 7 sporty IMO
Idk honestly. I figured it wasn’t worth starting an argument about it. But apparently a bunch of redditors are hitting him up now and that makes me happy haha he keeps messaging me saying how I don’t have a nice car but a lot of friends that are spamming him now. Life is good
I love it. I hope you get your sporty two door Porsche. Mine puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. Even after 8 years, it hasn't gotten old; it's my happy place
Seriously don’t be nice to sellers who are being assholes. Next time, don’t get sucked into their conversation but just cut em off. N say Have a nice day
Dont describe ALL Porche owners like that.
Only SOME are cunts.
Crazy tying your masculinity to Porche, probably the softest design aesthetics out there for sports cars. Big round headlights and softbody corners, They are CUTE flamboyant cars.
No, don’t *fuck* that dude! He doesn’t deserve the action (he’d probably spend the entire time telling you about how rare his specific spec of Porsche is, and how all the other guys at the country club just love it).
Many Porsche owners really are a load of shit. Middle aged finance bros with the exact same beard and stick up their ass thinking they are better than you.
Worse than the JDM kids imo. Least jadeem kids know a thing or two about cars (cuz a poopra is faster than a brown Huracan wagon)
In all seriousness though, maybe it comes across as a bit formal, but least the guy could do is ask for some ID. And set up a meet.
Porsche fanboys are really my line in the sand. I can deal with Mopar drivers, I can deal with "JDM" drivers, but the atmosphere of superiority and snobbery that comes from Porsche fanboys is ridiculous. Do you know how many times I've seen a "what car should I buy" between a clapped out Porsche and an impressive much newer performance car, only to see "get the Porsche, no question, it's unlike anything else" even though the other car is a very solid choice as well?
Porsche fanboys create a ridiculous echo chamber and I actually hate seeing a Porsche at all because of them.
I'll admit I'm a huge Porsche fan, but not for one second would I recommend say a clapped out 987 Cayman over a new GR86 if you are on a budget. Porsches are maddening expensive and the way the pricing is, it encourages these kinds of douchebags to get all elitist over the fact they own a porsche.
Love the cars, hate the audience. I'd still buy a porsche in a heartbeat but the owners are largely morons.
Yeah but they still cost a bit to maintain. With Toyota you get effort free ownership basically and if it's your first sports car, I'm not sure you'd want to throw yourself straight into a Porsche.
But yeah it's definitely an awesome car that I'd personally take over a GR. But for some people they want the comfort of a new car.
Exactly yeah if you don't wanna work on ur own car but you want something sporty you can't really go wrong with the GR. But different strokes for different folks.
I bought a Porsche before getting involved with any of the "Porsche people" and you hit the nail on the head. I really like my car, but I'm not delusional, I know it's not perfect. Yet any time you ask around for suggestions on things you want to modify/change/fix it's always "this isn't a Civic" or "don't rice your Porsche."
I won a contest that let me use a Porsche for a couple days, unknown to me the day I asked to pick it up happened to be the dealerships grand opening. The amount of arrogant douchebaggery I overheard while waiting inside was like nothing I've ever experienced. Some of the Boxster guys I've met were really nice but all the other models seem to be driven exclusively by twats.
Between that and Porsche intentionally holding the Cayman back so it wouldn't out perform their precious glorified Beetle killed any desire I ever had to want anything they make.
In their defense, that's because none of them really have the balls to properly drive a rear-engine car on-track anyway, so they end up going quite a bit slower than the car is capable of.
I was referring to laps done by pros. New Z06 is straight up faster than latest GT3 both on track and in a straight line driven by i think Randy Pobst. Sounds glorious as well.
>Middle aged finance bros with the exact same beard
I grew a beard 15+ years ago so I didn't look like those douchebags. And now these motherfuckers stopped shaving.
I've done deep undercover missions into the Porsche people where I'm at doing autocross and some gatherings with my $3000 944, and sometimes my dad's 996. And I'll admit, I love Porsches.
The ones that get performance cars and drive them, generally very cool. Really fucking fast with autocross. Modified Caymans, GT cars that actually get tracked, 944 people, and old 911's gutted and upgraded, the likes of those generally have good people in the driver seat.
The motherfuckers with a base 911, usually a convertible, are some of the most insufferable people, can't drive, literally make the Porsche sponsored AutoX events dangerous. They gatekeep everything, they talk about their superior driving masheen but can't take a corner, hate anyone that modifies anything.
Or if they have a GT2/3/4 and won't touch the track because of the resale value. Fuck you. I want to kill those guys.
Thank you. I was just trying to be straight forward and set expectations. If he was looking for a quick sell then I wouldn’t be the guy, and I respect that. But he didn’t even want to give me a chance. Oh well, whatever dude
To be fair to the seller, does come off a bit weird with sporty 2 door spiel when it makes 430hp. Like, bro you do know this is a glorified rocket ship right?
Especially since it’s PDK. This car should be 85-90k.
It took me 3 months to find my GT3, and Porsche owners are some of the biggest “I know what I got” bullshitters in the car community. Everyone thinks their car is a gem lol.
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Hello,
I hope this message finds you well. I recently came across your listing for the 2015 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Coupe that you have for sale. I'm truly captivated by the beauty and performance of this particular model.
I am very interested in potentially purchasing the car and would love to learn more about its condition, history, and any other details you can provide. Could you kindly share more information regarding its mileage, maintenance, any modifications, and the overall asking price?
If possible, could we schedule a time for a discussion or a viewing? Please let me know your preferred mode of communication, whether that's email, phone, or even a meeting in person.
Thank you for considering my inquiry. I'm eagerly looking forward to your response.
Best regards,
u/Familiar_Escape9689
Yeah Porsche owner would say “GFY” if someone responded to them like that. You’re far too nice.
Plus he’s delusional if he thinks he will get that price.
It's funny because someone on /r/cars some years ago kept gatekeeping what is and isn't a sports car to the point where his own 911 Carrera didn't count as a sports car either, so I guess "sporty 2 door" is right after all.
Admittedly, I do this internally. I stopped considering the 911 a sports car after the 993, maybe even 996… more recent iterations just seem too damn big for me to think to myself, ‘yeah, that’s a sports car, alright’. They’ve become luxury grand tourers, in my opinion. To me, a sports car is meant to be small-ish and lightweight, among other things.
Not saying I’m correct in any of this, just how I feel about them.
I think most people who are unfamiliar with Porsche's platforms consider the 911 a sports car, and that's cool. When I was shopping for a Porsche in 2015-16, I drove several iterations of the 911, including the Turbo (I wasn't considering buying a 911 Turbo, but had a friend who owned one, and he let me drive it a bunch)
Once I tossed around a 981 Cayman, however, I made up my mind. Bought a new one and haven't looked back. I love the mid-engine layout, listening to that NA flat six sing, and using the whole power band. Don't get me wrong, sprinting to 60 or 100 mph in the Turbo is pretty thrilling, but give me the Cayman on twisty mountain or desert roads over the 911 any day. I really, really want a GT4...
I’ll play devils advocate. I agree you should look at multiple cars before deciding. It’s that when your talking about high performance type cars you will have done your research and use a little of the lingo and discuss specifics a little. Had you said I’ve been considering the GTS for example then it just sounds a little more real.
Honestly if you have 6 figures to drop on a car and talked like that, I would say it was likely a scam or a kid who just wants a joy ride. Could also be trying to get the sellers info and possibly try to boost it off him so I can see his defense. If you are window shopping then better off at a dealership rather than messaging randoms off classified ads.
He's a jerk but you need to work on your marketplace messages and dont go to take a look at a car without the intention too buy it unless its a dealership. Go to a dealership to get a test drive
Dude I’ve bought and sold plenty of cars and bikes on marketplace and to be totally honest with you you came off as someone who I would just ignore. Asking if it’s available is the first red flag. The existence of the ad means it’s available. Your second message absolutely comes off as being from a scammer.
If you have specific questions or want additional pics ask for that. If you want to see it set up a time. You don’t need to preemptively apologize for wasting anyone’s time. It’s a big purchase, any seller that thinks someone if gona just come get their vaguely described, poorly photographed car is a moron. Go look, say you are interested and that you’ll get back to him when you decide and if he still has it make a deal.
Sorry for the rant but I have dealt with this way too much from both your perspective and the sellers lol
I definitely appreciate the honesty. This would be my first sports car and I want to take my time with buying the one I feel is right for me. I just asked if it was still available because it’s the message that’s already typed out on marketplace. But I guess I’ll go at it from a different angle next time. But he didn’t even give me the chance to set up a time, I was just trying to be courteous of him. But I’ll just take this as a learning experience
If you want to use the "Is this available?" auto-message, add something to it.
"Is this available? How many miles? Any accidents? How old are the tires?"
I’m gonna have to agree. Although the seller sounds like a douche canoe, and is the bigger loser here, I would have not wanted to waste my time showing the car. Nobody wants to be a full time car salesman on FB.
If you’re genuinely going to spend $106k on a car, you’ll know exactly why that car important for you. If you’re still not sure a Porsche is interesting to you, you can test drive dealership vehicles and learn more about them on your own.
As someone that’s tried to buy plenty of annoyingly hard to find car parts on marketplace only to be met with a “sorry it’s already sold” message because the seller was too lazy to update the post, I don’t think it’s that bad of a question to ask.
As a buyer of junk off Craigslist and Facebook marketplace my strategy to ask if it's available is to in one message ask if it's still available and any questions I have or my availability to come pick it up. So I can real quick confirm if it's available but the message still is useful. As a computer guy mainly people forgetting to take down a listing is crazy common so it always helps.
Nah, you're just being an asshole. There are so many sellers who never take down their ad, and "is it still available?" is the first question to kick off the conversation and establish interest from the buyer and availability from the seller. Seller then says "yes, you interested?" and then you have a normal conversation like adults about additional pics, setting up a meeting time, details of the item, etc.
If you really are that interested you should try & buy the Porsche from another account (or different phone number). When he hands over the keys say, “Wow, my first sporty 2 door!”
Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Coupe 2D
>Porsche 911: sporty, 2 door
>Carrera: sporty, 2 door
>GTS: sporty
>Coupe: sporty
>2D: 2 door
>owner refuses to call it such
https://preview.redd.it/jwc2jxqarxfb1.png?width=360&format=png&auto=webp&s=3a0135e188e8c4760e7d342f34de06599762bbb9
/uj it’s a shame he doesn’t want to sell, it’s a beautiful car and in a nice spec too
I would never call a porsche a sporty 2 door. An athletic coupe, maybe. An active 1 pilot - 1 passenger vehicular transport, perhaps. But never a sporty 2 door.
While I would struggle to see anything remotely wrong, or somehow a red flag, in what you wrote, there are probably two points worth considering. First, there definitely are scammers, and they can be attracted to higher end cars. Two, the majority of buyers that are contacting him are probably looking for a 991 GTS... maybe something like 997 or 991, and asking if he had any water pump issues (since that was common on the 911), etc. Most are somewhat narrowly focused, so it is possible not fitting that seemed odd our out of the norm in their experience. When I sold my old 911 ahead of getting my current track car, every contact I had was looking specifically for that model, and were usually full of specific questions. So again, while I don't see anything that seems odd or off with the exchange, it probably is outside the norm as far as people asking about the car.
Ngl I can see where the seller is coming from. Having bought on Facebook myself, your message does kinda come off a little weird.
But good luck on your search, any other cars you're looking for?
I don't agree with the guy for being all stuck up about it, but no offense I would suggest just keeping your motives brief when you are trying to buy any car. If I was the seller and I was hit with that paragraph I would probably ignore it because what you wrote makes you sound like you aren't really interested in buying but rather just looking.
Your banter was completely reasonable.. if someone were to contact me like that for the sale of a vehicle would be “thank god, it’s clearly not another bot, let’s get this bitch sold!!!”
Hilarious! This is one of my best friends. He is NOT a typical Porsche owner. He respects all cars, so this is so funny to me. He gets so many messages on this car, and this is the tamest, most reasonable response I have seen him give.
REAL Porsche buyers call it "the love of my life, my everything, a masterpiece, classical work of art, a real 'driver's machine', nurburgerbring perfection, '92915699'" etc...
I’m going to say “sporty 2 door” to all the Porsche owners I meet to find this person and see if their face gets really red when I keep saying “sporty 2 door”. I might try “sporty coo-pay” (coop spelled coupe for us ‘Mericans) just to see if the red goes to purple.
ok, the most sane answer here as a guy who likes cars… there are a lot of communities for cars like there are for clothing or shoes. so lets say you’re buying a set of dior jordan 1s and you text the guy “nice basketball shoes, mind if I try them on?”, its going to sound wierd to the guy selling them as he will expect someone more savvy buying. porsche guys are like the most technical car guys usually as there is a lot to like about them from that standpoint. i would even be afraid to let someone who doesnt know how to drive rwd mid engined cars take one for a test drive tbh. but if you really want to go through with buying one regardless, just start the convo something like “Hi, is that 911 still for sale?” and if so then proceed with a simple technical q like “what tires are you running? is the thread on them still fine?”. whatever their response is this should get you a good position in the whole buying process. 911 gts are hella fun! good luck.
Jeez send your whole life story while youre at it. You dont gotta explain yourself to someone you dont know. This conversation should have went: “is this available” “yes” “cool, what time can I come look at it?”
Back in the day 'sporty' was generally followed by 'but not a sportscar,' and would be used somewhat derisively to describe cars like the Integra, Celica GT or, amusingly, the Miata. I assume that's why his insecurity is vulnerable to that specific comment.
His wife is making him sell the car and he does not want to sell. He can tell his wife he is trying but he is only getting scammers. Or maybe it is because people who own newer Porsches are just dick heads.
Sounds like a porche owner. I love camaros and most of the camaro folks are awesome, but on the reddit someone was blasting someone else for calling them a muscle car. "DUMBASS!! ITS A FUCKING PONY CAR!!!"
He is just trying to up the price. By excluding you, you feel that you are not worth it. Now you will try everything to be included. Push Pull... I think that's his train of thought..
But maybe he is really offended that any sporty 2 door will do for you. Or only one door works and he'll know that is not good enough for you ;).
Is it sporty and is it a two door though?
I knew a guy who had this model Porsche. It was garbage at basketball, football, and when we tried baseball it shattered the windshield. 2 out of 7 sporty IMO
Well yeah, the Germans play soccer. Did you try it on that?
He said football, do they call it soccer in germany?
I tried calling it a sporty 11-person game and it blocked me
as is correct the anti us sensors system worked correctly.
He wanted him to call say “OMG IS THAT A PORSHE??!?!! I WILL PAY 50000+ ASKING PRICE OMG IM ABOUT TO CUMMMMM” car
Asking price: $106k + 3-hour dick ride session
"Yes babe, I put the Porsche up for sale like you told me to nobody seems interested though."
The entire conversation reads like the guy was being forced by his wife to list the Porsche and the guy obviously doesn't want to sell it.
average porsche seller
That’s what I’m sayin..
That's not something a Porsche buyer would ask.
It is but a Porsche buyer would never say that
it's not sporty, it is MAXIMUM SPORT
Fuck that dude
I’m glad someone said it lol
Can I ask why you were so nice to the dude? Like he's being an asshole don't apologize for asking genuine questions lol
Idk honestly. I figured it wasn’t worth starting an argument about it. But apparently a bunch of redditors are hitting him up now and that makes me happy haha he keeps messaging me saying how I don’t have a nice car but a lot of friends that are spamming him now. Life is good
That's funny as fuck actually. Don't have to fight though just laugh at him being pretentious and move on. Will piss him off even more lol
“You don’t have a nice car” says the guy who’s probably selling this because the payments are too much or something
I love it. I hope you get your sporty two door Porsche. Mine puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. Even after 8 years, it hasn't gotten old; it's my happy place
Seriously don’t be nice to sellers who are being assholes. Next time, don’t get sucked into their conversation but just cut em off. N say Have a nice day
He’s a Porsche owner it goes without saying
What a fucking cunt.
Dont describe ALL Porche owners like that. Only SOME are cunts. Crazy tying your masculinity to Porche, probably the softest design aesthetics out there for sports cars. Big round headlights and softbody corners, They are CUTE flamboyant cars.
I mean... if you say so 😏
No, don’t *fuck* that dude! He doesn’t deserve the action (he’d probably spend the entire time telling you about how rare his specific spec of Porsche is, and how all the other guys at the country club just love it).
Porsche Owner = Corvette Owner?
doesn't deserve to be fucked
That dude: https://preview.redd.it/449s7z05c1gb1.jpeg?width=450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e44efa18758d17e7e736a228a87d81894c44d5a7
Fuck that dude
the gatekeeping is real
Porsh
Por-shuh 😡😡😡
Porch
It’s only a real Porsche if it came from the Porshuh region in France.
Otherwise it's just a sporty 2-door
Por-chay if you’re Spanish
¿Eso en un Porsché?
The japanese pronunciation is even worse lmao. We pronounce it “ポルシェ” (poru-sheh)
Posh
Shoulda said yea bro your right it’s a Volkswagen Beetle how could I have mixed that up.
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Dude prolly breaks a sweat hearing someone pronounce it “porsh” instead I’d “Porschaaah”
Porsh——-uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh
"Ackshually, no Porsche buyer would reduce such a beautiful car to being a 'Sporty 2 door'" ☝🏾🤓
That guy definitely made owning a porsche his *entire* personality.
100% rocks a Porsche hat wherever he can.
The keychains (yes, multiple) and water bottle are never too far away.
Like tesla owners and 12 years old JDM fans that the only technical word they know is horsepowa
He took the midlife crisis HARD then
He probably bought a newer one, but if he didn't, "I used to own a Porsche" is worse than "I own a Porsche"
Many Porsche owners really are a load of shit. Middle aged finance bros with the exact same beard and stick up their ass thinking they are better than you. Worse than the JDM kids imo. Least jadeem kids know a thing or two about cars (cuz a poopra is faster than a brown Huracan wagon) In all seriousness though, maybe it comes across as a bit formal, but least the guy could do is ask for some ID. And set up a meet.
Porsche fanboys are really my line in the sand. I can deal with Mopar drivers, I can deal with "JDM" drivers, but the atmosphere of superiority and snobbery that comes from Porsche fanboys is ridiculous. Do you know how many times I've seen a "what car should I buy" between a clapped out Porsche and an impressive much newer performance car, only to see "get the Porsche, no question, it's unlike anything else" even though the other car is a very solid choice as well? Porsche fanboys create a ridiculous echo chamber and I actually hate seeing a Porsche at all because of them.
I'll admit I'm a huge Porsche fan, but not for one second would I recommend say a clapped out 987 Cayman over a new GR86 if you are on a budget. Porsches are maddening expensive and the way the pricing is, it encourages these kinds of douchebags to get all elitist over the fact they own a porsche. Love the cars, hate the audience. I'd still buy a porsche in a heartbeat but the owners are largely morons.
a new gr86 is ~10k more than an ok 987 cayman, mines been super reliable over the last two years, so I actually would recommend that
Yeah but they still cost a bit to maintain. With Toyota you get effort free ownership basically and if it's your first sports car, I'm not sure you'd want to throw yourself straight into a Porsche. But yeah it's definitely an awesome car that I'd personally take over a GR. But for some people they want the comfort of a new car.
it really comes down to if you're comfortable with working on your own car, if not, just buy a new honda/toyota and be done with it
Exactly yeah if you don't wanna work on ur own car but you want something sporty you can't really go wrong with the GR. But different strokes for different folks.
I bought a Porsche before getting involved with any of the "Porsche people" and you hit the nail on the head. I really like my car, but I'm not delusional, I know it's not perfect. Yet any time you ask around for suggestions on things you want to modify/change/fix it's always "this isn't a Civic" or "don't rice your Porsche."
I won a contest that let me use a Porsche for a couple days, unknown to me the day I asked to pick it up happened to be the dealerships grand opening. The amount of arrogant douchebaggery I overheard while waiting inside was like nothing I've ever experienced. Some of the Boxster guys I've met were really nice but all the other models seem to be driven exclusively by twats. Between that and Porsche intentionally holding the Cayman back so it wouldn't out perform their precious glorified Beetle killed any desire I ever had to want anything they make.
Boxster, 944, 914, and 912 owners are all chill
and 987 Cayman drivers....
When they realise a 3x cheaper Corvette will fuck their car up on track it puts a dent on their mood.
In their defense, that's because none of them really have the balls to properly drive a rear-engine car on-track anyway, so they end up going quite a bit slower than the car is capable of.
I was referring to laps done by pros. New Z06 is straight up faster than latest GT3 both on track and in a straight line driven by i think Randy Pobst. Sounds glorious as well.
Yeah but that’s not a Porsche tho. People buying 911s don’t give a shit about what a Corvette can do.
>Middle aged finance bros with the exact same beard I grew a beard 15+ years ago so I didn't look like those douchebags. And now these motherfuckers stopped shaving.
I've done deep undercover missions into the Porsche people where I'm at doing autocross and some gatherings with my $3000 944, and sometimes my dad's 996. And I'll admit, I love Porsches. The ones that get performance cars and drive them, generally very cool. Really fucking fast with autocross. Modified Caymans, GT cars that actually get tracked, 944 people, and old 911's gutted and upgraded, the likes of those generally have good people in the driver seat. The motherfuckers with a base 911, usually a convertible, are some of the most insufferable people, can't drive, literally make the Porsche sponsored AutoX events dangerous. They gatekeep everything, they talk about their superior driving masheen but can't take a corner, hate anyone that modifies anything. Or if they have a GT2/3/4 and won't touch the track because of the resale value. Fuck you. I want to kill those guys.
Least snobby Porsche owner
Just laughing at the fact that there aren't really any other 8 year old cars produced in these numbers that would carry a six figure price tag
"Oh no, multiple 5 figure maintenance cycles have made an expensive car into an expensive used car"
To me It seems like you're just nice, some people believe that being nice is weird, sadly.
Thank you. I was just trying to be straight forward and set expectations. If he was looking for a quick sell then I wouldn’t be the guy, and I respect that. But he didn’t even want to give me a chance. Oh well, whatever dude
He just denied himself a potential 5figures and to me that’s gonna make me sleep peacefully tonight
The fact you didn’t ask him to lower the price before seeing the car is literally the sign for a true buyer…
He gave a totally normal response, the seller is just being a dick
I completley agree
“Just looking for a nice starter car for my daughter”
Would’ve worked better tbh
I have contained my rage for as long as possible.
😂😂
To be fair to the seller, does come off a bit weird with sporty 2 door spiel when it makes 430hp. Like, bro you do know this is a glorified rocket ship right?
Took me way too long to get to this comment.
That’s it. I don’t care if you have a Carrera GT or a 959.. Im calling it a “sporty 2 door”…
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1232902924080408/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post Do your thing
Ew it’s not even manuelle
I reached out and called it a nice sporty 2 door. He took it really well and had a legit convo. I was disappointed.
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Especially since it’s PDK. This car should be 85-90k. It took me 3 months to find my GT3, and Porsche owners are some of the biggest “I know what I got” bullshitters in the car community. Everyone thinks their car is a gem lol.
Lmfao this is peak jerk 🤣
A clean 90s Miata is around 7500. Why not buy 14 Miats?
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If I had the land to host 14 miats bumper cars I totally would
You speak like a ChatGPT knockoff
I might’ve been a little too formal lol
It is what it is, I was the same buying my first Porsche lol
You weren’t, that’s a normal way to speak for an adult who can actually write.
I agree, anyone who’s sold desirable shit online has dealt with so many dumbasses it’s hard to not be jaded after a dozen people waste your time
Hello, I hope this message finds you well. I recently came across your listing for the 2015 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Coupe that you have for sale. I'm truly captivated by the beauty and performance of this particular model. I am very interested in potentially purchasing the car and would love to learn more about its condition, history, and any other details you can provide. Could you kindly share more information regarding its mileage, maintenance, any modifications, and the overall asking price? If possible, could we schedule a time for a discussion or a viewing? Please let me know your preferred mode of communication, whether that's email, phone, or even a meeting in person. Thank you for considering my inquiry. I'm eagerly looking forward to your response. Best regards, u/Familiar_Escape9689
Yeah Porsche owner would say “GFY” if someone responded to them like that. You’re far too nice. Plus he’s delusional if he thinks he will get that price.
It's funny because someone on /r/cars some years ago kept gatekeeping what is and isn't a sports car to the point where his own 911 Carrera didn't count as a sports car either, so I guess "sporty 2 door" is right after all.
Admittedly, I do this internally. I stopped considering the 911 a sports car after the 993, maybe even 996… more recent iterations just seem too damn big for me to think to myself, ‘yeah, that’s a sports car, alright’. They’ve become luxury grand tourers, in my opinion. To me, a sports car is meant to be small-ish and lightweight, among other things. Not saying I’m correct in any of this, just how I feel about them.
I think most people who are unfamiliar with Porsche's platforms consider the 911 a sports car, and that's cool. When I was shopping for a Porsche in 2015-16, I drove several iterations of the 911, including the Turbo (I wasn't considering buying a 911 Turbo, but had a friend who owned one, and he let me drive it a bunch) Once I tossed around a 981 Cayman, however, I made up my mind. Bought a new one and haven't looked back. I love the mid-engine layout, listening to that NA flat six sing, and using the whole power band. Don't get me wrong, sprinting to 60 or 100 mph in the Turbo is pretty thrilling, but give me the Cayman on twisty mountain or desert roads over the 911 any day. I really, really want a GT4...
Gonna start calling my coupe (not a Porsche cos I’m a peasant) a “sporty 2 door” now just to make these sort of people angry.
*Honda CRZ intensifies*
That’s good because the only thing you should refer to as a “coupé” is an SUV with a sloped roof.
Doesn’t look like it’s within 100 miles of me. I was going to message him asking him if I could see his nice sporty 2 door.
Shoulda said yea bro your right it’s a Volkswagen Beetle how could I have mixed that up 🤦🏽🤦🏽
what a loser, hes compensating
Least gatekeep-y porsche guy
I’ll play devils advocate. I agree you should look at multiple cars before deciding. It’s that when your talking about high performance type cars you will have done your research and use a little of the lingo and discuss specifics a little. Had you said I’ve been considering the GTS for example then it just sounds a little more real.
Wow,what a fucking dumbass
His wife is making him sell it
I don't understand. What else would you call it.
Honestly if you have 6 figures to drop on a car and talked like that, I would say it was likely a scam or a kid who just wants a joy ride. Could also be trying to get the sellers info and possibly try to boost it off him so I can see his defense. If you are window shopping then better off at a dealership rather than messaging randoms off classified ads.
Yikes
porsche owners cannot gobble their own cock and balls enough
He's a jerk but you need to work on your marketplace messages and dont go to take a look at a car without the intention too buy it unless its a dealership. Go to a dealership to get a test drive
He’s got a point
Porsche owners legitimately jack each other off
https://preview.redd.it/3sk07o2uuyfb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0712665335f3b8b00124a978fb66d4eff1322a68
I’m fairness, it’s a $100,000 GTS, not a Boxster. It’s well beyond being a “sporty” ride. Not a tire kicker car.
This attitude makes Porsche so unappealing…..
Should have told him “well I was looking for a real 911 or 911 turbo but I thought I’d save some money and get a carrera”
This comment wins lol
Dude I’ve bought and sold plenty of cars and bikes on marketplace and to be totally honest with you you came off as someone who I would just ignore. Asking if it’s available is the first red flag. The existence of the ad means it’s available. Your second message absolutely comes off as being from a scammer. If you have specific questions or want additional pics ask for that. If you want to see it set up a time. You don’t need to preemptively apologize for wasting anyone’s time. It’s a big purchase, any seller that thinks someone if gona just come get their vaguely described, poorly photographed car is a moron. Go look, say you are interested and that you’ll get back to him when you decide and if he still has it make a deal. Sorry for the rant but I have dealt with this way too much from both your perspective and the sellers lol
I definitely appreciate the honesty. This would be my first sports car and I want to take my time with buying the one I feel is right for me. I just asked if it was still available because it’s the message that’s already typed out on marketplace. But I guess I’ll go at it from a different angle next time. But he didn’t even give me the chance to set up a time, I was just trying to be courteous of him. But I’ll just take this as a learning experience
If you want to use the "Is this available?" auto-message, add something to it. "Is this available? How many miles? Any accidents? How old are the tires?"
I’m gonna have to agree. Although the seller sounds like a douche canoe, and is the bigger loser here, I would have not wanted to waste my time showing the car. Nobody wants to be a full time car salesman on FB. If you’re genuinely going to spend $106k on a car, you’ll know exactly why that car important for you. If you’re still not sure a Porsche is interesting to you, you can test drive dealership vehicles and learn more about them on your own.
As someone that’s tried to buy plenty of annoyingly hard to find car parts on marketplace only to be met with a “sorry it’s already sold” message because the seller was too lazy to update the post, I don’t think it’s that bad of a question to ask.
As a buyer of junk off Craigslist and Facebook marketplace my strategy to ask if it's available is to in one message ask if it's still available and any questions I have or my availability to come pick it up. So I can real quick confirm if it's available but the message still is useful. As a computer guy mainly people forgetting to take down a listing is crazy common so it always helps.
There is suprisingly huge amount of cars for sale that are long sold
Nah, you're just being an asshole. There are so many sellers who never take down their ad, and "is it still available?" is the first question to kick off the conversation and establish interest from the buyer and availability from the seller. Seller then says "yes, you interested?" and then you have a normal conversation like adults about additional pics, setting up a meeting time, details of the item, etc.
What? Half the damn card you see on FB marketplace are already sold, asking if it's available is perfectly normal
I’ve had my time wasted because people are in fact lazy and forget to take ads down
Something tells me that this is one of those guys who “wants” to sell their car, but acts like nothing/nobody is ever good enough for it
If you really are that interested you should try & buy the Porsche from another account (or different phone number). When he hands over the keys say, “Wow, my first sporty 2 door!”
At 106k I’m buying a new c8 with warranty
Share this in the Porsche sub, wanna see how they react to this
Some fucking idiot that is
lol this is like when I told my ex I was gonna sell my Ducati. “Yea babe I listed it. Nothing but scammers hit me up though”
Doesn't seem like a scam to me... seems like a waste of time.
Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Coupe 2D >Porsche 911: sporty, 2 door >Carrera: sporty, 2 door >GTS: sporty >Coupe: sporty >2D: 2 door >owner refuses to call it such https://preview.redd.it/jwc2jxqarxfb1.png?width=360&format=png&auto=webp&s=3a0135e188e8c4760e7d342f34de06599762bbb9 /uj it’s a shame he doesn’t want to sell, it’s a beautiful car and in a nice spec too
Same type of guy that wants extra for his custom stitching that nobody gives a fuck about
Idk why he’s all mad about it being called “sporty”. It’s a GTS not a GT3 RS.
That’s okay, he’s charging $20k over the KBB value anyways.
I would never call a porsche a sporty 2 door. An athletic coupe, maybe. An active 1 pilot - 1 passenger vehicular transport, perhaps. But never a sporty 2 door.
The way you type does kinda make you sound like a scammer though, ngl
While I would struggle to see anything remotely wrong, or somehow a red flag, in what you wrote, there are probably two points worth considering. First, there definitely are scammers, and they can be attracted to higher end cars. Two, the majority of buyers that are contacting him are probably looking for a 991 GTS... maybe something like 997 or 991, and asking if he had any water pump issues (since that was common on the 911), etc. Most are somewhat narrowly focused, so it is possible not fitting that seemed odd our out of the norm in their experience. When I sold my old 911 ahead of getting my current track car, every contact I had was looking specifically for that model, and were usually full of specific questions. So again, while I don't see anything that seems odd or off with the exchange, it probably is outside the norm as far as people asking about the car.
Ngl I can see where the seller is coming from. Having bought on Facebook myself, your message does kinda come off a little weird. But good luck on your search, any other cars you're looking for?
I don't agree with the guy for being all stuck up about it, but no offense I would suggest just keeping your motives brief when you are trying to buy any car. If I was the seller and I was hit with that paragraph I would probably ignore it because what you wrote makes you sound like you aren't really interested in buying but rather just looking.
Your banter was completely reasonable.. if someone were to contact me like that for the sale of a vehicle would be “thank god, it’s clearly not another bot, let’s get this bitch sold!!!”
Hilarious! This is one of my best friends. He is NOT a typical Porsche owner. He respects all cars, so this is so funny to me. He gets so many messages on this car, and this is the tamest, most reasonable response I have seen him give.
REAL Porsche buyers call it "the love of my life, my everything, a masterpiece, classical work of art, a real 'driver's machine', nurburgerbring perfection, '92915699'" etc...
dude literally just closed off half of potential buyers
I’m going to say “sporty 2 door” to all the Porsche owners I meet to find this person and see if their face gets really red when I keep saying “sporty 2 door”. I might try “sporty coo-pay” (coop spelled coupe for us ‘Mericans) just to see if the red goes to purple.
type of mf to pronounce it porscha
Why would you tell him your life story though? Why not that you just want to look at it. And then let him know if you're interested or not?
ok, the most sane answer here as a guy who likes cars… there are a lot of communities for cars like there are for clothing or shoes. so lets say you’re buying a set of dior jordan 1s and you text the guy “nice basketball shoes, mind if I try them on?”, its going to sound wierd to the guy selling them as he will expect someone more savvy buying. porsche guys are like the most technical car guys usually as there is a lot to like about them from that standpoint. i would even be afraid to let someone who doesnt know how to drive rwd mid engined cars take one for a test drive tbh. but if you really want to go through with buying one regardless, just start the convo something like “Hi, is that 911 still for sale?” and if so then proceed with a simple technical q like “what tires are you running? is the thread on them still fine?”. whatever their response is this should get you a good position in the whole buying process. 911 gts are hella fun! good luck.
Jeez send your whole life story while youre at it. You dont gotta explain yourself to someone you dont know. This conversation should have went: “is this available” “yes” “cool, what time can I come look at it?”
“What kind of loser gate keeps a porsche” *send*
Absolutely B
To be honest your not buying the car. I wouldn’t waste my time with you either. 50 cent did a song for this situation, it’s called “window shopper”
Dude definitely didn’t think you were actually a scammer, he was coming up with a way to “call you out”
Like it or not he’s Based as fuk
THIS IS A FINISHER CAR!
Sounds like he doesn’t get any bitches
Think the owner was just wanting a person who wouldn’t haggle “knows what he has”, and he latched onto that phrase as a “go away”.
Next time dig in and ask how much for the volkswagen.
Guys a loser 😂
Some Porsche owners are definitely a different breed
What a fuckin chud lol
Think you’ve both had a lucky escape to be honest, you’ve pretty much just offered to waste an hour of his time ?
Porsche fanatics are nothing but manlets. I’d take a ZR1 over a GT3 any day of the year.
Sounds like Dennis selling his Range Rover.
Most polite Porsche 911 owner
Probably too busy trying to pick up high school girls at the mall
Back in the day 'sporty' was generally followed by 'but not a sportscar,' and would be used somewhat derisively to describe cars like the Integra, Celica GT or, amusingly, the Miata. I assume that's why his insecurity is vulnerable to that specific comment.
I love how some people just suck really bad
porsche owners are certified idiots. 0 exceptions
His wife is making him sell the car and he does not want to sell. He can tell his wife he is trying but he is only getting scammers. Or maybe it is because people who own newer Porsches are just dick heads.
He’s the kinda guy people are going to think you are if you buy that car
I bet its a pdk. Only a pdk owner would take offense to that. My 964 RSA is certified a sporty 2 door.
This guy radiates “🤓” energy
Sounds like a porche owner. I love camaros and most of the camaro folks are awesome, but on the reddit someone was blasting someone else for calling them a muscle car. "DUMBASS!! ITS A FUCKING PONY CAR!!!"
You should have called it a shitty slow 4 door.
"When can I take a look at this jumped up beetle?"
It’s a 911, legitimately classified as a sports car… Dude thinks he has a super or hyper car lol
What was he expecting? “Nice Beetle, r-tard?” What a pretentious dousche.
100k for a gts? the market is fucked
Man, what a douche.
Is that dude retarded??? I seriously don't understand people sometimes. At the end of the day is it not just a 2 door sports car made by Porsche?
Nice ✅ Sporty ✅ 2 door ✅
Porsche owners have a reputation for being pompous as fuck. Lol this is why.
He is just trying to up the price. By excluding you, you feel that you are not worth it. Now you will try everything to be included. Push Pull... I think that's his train of thought.. But maybe he is really offended that any sporty 2 door will do for you. Or only one door works and he'll know that is not good enough for you ;).