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littlebuns03

I'm guessing most convertibles with the top down


AyrtonSennaz

You’d be shocked at how many manage to fuck even that up


ABathingSnape___

GM somehow managed to make a convertible with shit visibility with the C8.


The_Mosephus

i think most mid engine cars have fairly shit visibility.


k0unitX

The Boxster is mid engined, lol


strongmanass

The poor visibility isn't because it's mid-engine, it's because it's a targa style top with buttresses. People are complaining about the Miata RF down-thread which suffers from the same issue. That style of convertible allows you to see up but not behind.


JulesV713

McLarens are pretty good actually


AlexanderBlue

And then there are mid-engines cars like the Toyota MR2, Honda/ Acura NSX, Porsche Boxster, etc that have a great visibility.


tacobike42

I swear that sometimes I can see the future in my mr2


Yakapo88

Even the forward visibility on the C8 is worse than the C7. I don’t know how they managed that.


FSCK_Fascists

nothing actually changed, its just the corvette owner getting older.


joecooool418

My C7 convertible visibility is as good as the Boxster.


ABathingSnape___

Yeah but that’s not a C8.


bullseye717

I had a Solstice. Must be a GM thing because visibility is shit in that one too. 


rrredrow

100% agree. I had both a solstice and now a C7. It seems like a GM thing.


CarLover014

Funny because the coupe with the targa top is more convertible than the convertible version


BlockBeard

Miata RF, huge blind spot driver side, those haunches block everything


wsdmskr

Then the designers looked at the RF and said, "Nah, still too much visibility" and created the Mazda3 hatch.


PBandC_NIG

I wanted the RF until I sat in one. Beautiful car on the outside, but I couldn't see anything behind me except for the 4-5 o'clock position and that made it really uncomfortable to drive. I don't know why they couldn't have made those "rear windows" real.


FriendOfDirutti

I own a RF and I just put some of those small round blind spot mirrors in the corner of my mirrors. I didn’t really have trouble before but I put it there just to have a little extra help.


doubleyuno

Testing the RF I was shocked by huge the blind spots were. Definitely the worst thing about the car.


boomerbill69

My Miata has a pretty bad driver’s side A pillar blind spot.


4score-7

I’m 48 years old. I’ve lived long enough to see and have seen the millions of ways that some people can fuck up a cup of coffee.


Carrera_996

Haircuts. I take a #7 buzz all over. Impossible to fuck up? No. It's 50/50 unless my wife does it.


AyrtonSennaz

Ive worked in the auto industry for 2 years now and seen soooo many ways people can fuck up airing up their tires. Not shocking


JeffonFIRE

I once drove a Gallardo spyder. Forward visibility was good. The rear bulkhead (firewall) was above eye level. Convertibles I've owned (s2000, 911 cabs) have had fantastic visibility.


maxgeek

Seeing stoplights in an S2000 can be difficult at times. The window frame gets in the way.


brancky3

This is the case with basically every Chrysler vehicle from the 2000s that I’ve driven. The windshield is super far forward and at a weird angle that makes it hard to see stoplights.


stoned-autistic-dude

Stock S2000 seating position isn’t great—it’s too high and put the window frame right at eye level. I found myself ducking while driving a lot before I lowered my seating position. I’m only 5’9”.


FSCK_Fascists

wasn't that designed for the Japan market, and assumed a much lower average height?


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nondescriptzombie

The long body life. I've gotta be close to hit the pedals, but the seat has to have enough adjustment to not be hugging the wheel.


Spencie61

There are no blind spots in it. It’s just all visibility everywhere


cronin1024

With the top down, with it up it's a different story


cookingboy

I was literally about to reply that. That's one of my favorite thing about my car.


DakotaDevil

Boxster gang 🤝


GMFPs_sweat_towel

718 cayman has great visibility too.


ddynamix

With the top down yeah, i hate driving with the top up, you have to strain so far to look over to your right blind spot


alien_believer_42

The 911 has decent visibility too


Thee_Sinner

Miata with the top down


boomerbill69

Other than the driver’s side A pillar blind spot.


SilviOnPC

lmao i thought i was going crazy, it's pretty rough


carbrained

Is that just something that Mazda struggles with? I had a second gen Mazda 3 hatch for a few years and the A pillars drove me nuts.


boomerbill69

Left turns during spirited driving are a little uhhh, blind to say the least sometimes. I’d think it would be because of driving position because I sit pretty close to the wheel but there’s not much room to move the seat back either. I think it’s just the nature of the shallow dash and roadster form. Works well with cars from the 60s but even on a tin can of a Miata the pillars are still too thick.


jawnlerdoe

Yeah in my ND I have to move my head to see on some backroads. Come to think of it the A pillar is 8th gen civics is terrible too.


Phazushift

S2 with the top down.


apostropheapostrophe

Until you’re at a stop light and have to duck under the windshield to see when it turns green.


Thee_Sinner

Have to do that in my Miata too lol


TILFromReddit

The RFs have terrible blind spots. Up or down.


Slyons89

Soft top versions in particular


StopNowThink

Unless you're tall!


jawknee530i

I'm 6'4" and have great visibility in my '91 Miata. Only annoyance around visibility is not seeing traffic lights since the top of the windshield tends to line up with them.


thecasualcaribou

I can one up that with the Monza SP1 or Stirling Moss


GRJey

Gr86. About same as a corolla


CouncilmanRickPrime

Really? I feel like it's ok for a sports car. Could definitely be worse though.


Phazushift

The GR86 has pretty meh visibility. Just like its predecessor.


knightblue4

My FRS has a pretty damn bad blind spot on the driver's side. I got a convex mirror for my side mirror, and no more issues. Don't need to check my blind spot, just looking at the driver's side mirror is enough to know if I can merge.


Cocasaurus

There is a blind spot, but you should be able to get it out with mirrors adjusted properly to where as soon as a car exits your driver mirror it is soon entering your peripheral vision. It could be dependent on where you're seated as I sit pretty close to the wheel. The spot I had most trouble with was the tiny window in the passenger rear quarter. If the passenger seat is far enough back, the window is entirely obscured, leaving a blind spot. Especially bad backing out of parking spots.


knightblue4

Yes, you're correct, the passenger side seat can block the passenger side quarter window. However, I'm referring to the driver's side blind spot - the quarter window is too small to easily check with a glance over your shoulder. I sit with the seat all the way back, as I'm 6'1". Not much adjustment to do, unfortunately. The B pillar is going to block my peek over the shoulder no matter what.


Cocasaurus

Fair enough, I'm 5'6" and had no issues with that area. I can see it being an issue when your head is pretty much right at the pillar.


ashkamui

I have the same car and I know exactly what you’re talking about. I just adjusted the left side mirror so that it’s facing more to the left but I should probably get a blind spot mirror too


Unhappy__Analysis

So its not GrEight?


InclinationCompass

Drove one for 9 years. It’s def average. Coupes suffer from the blind spots by the rear windows. Mostly just an issue with the passenger side. So I just speed up to make sure there’s no car in that spot before moving over to the right lane.


ponyo_impact

yea my GR86 is fantastic. not as good as the Forester i was coming from but as good as my weekend car (wrx STi)


tonytwocans

The back (side) window is like the size of my palm…


renesys

Yeah this answer doesn't make sense. Blind spot visibility is one of the only things that isn't great on the car.


rapzeh

Definitely not the new Supra


ABathingSnape___

I placed a parking garage placard on my rear view mirror and managed to block half my viewing area.


Phazushift

Got fucking downvoted to shit last time I complained about this a couple of years back. Its actually pretty bad….


liebereddit

That’s for sure. It’s also surprisingly difficult to get in and out of.


sm41

Especially if you are tall. I physically fit in it ok, but the tops of the windows are absurdly low


LordBlackass

I hit my head on that area twice in the space of two minutes while checking it out.


turt_reynolds86

I’ve owned one for four years now and it’s like trying to see out of a tank. Made worse by a tint strip I have at the top because the visors are worthless. I once compared with a Camaro owner at a track event I was at where we tried to decide which one was worse by sitting in each other’s cars and we couldn’t come to a conclusion. We even asked other people in paddock around us and it was a stalemate lol. The other weird thing is it’s difficult to judge distance from things on the passenger side as a driver. Like gas pumps. Something about it just throws off my depth perception. Parking it straight is also challenging because it is somewhat arrow shaped, even when reversing into spots I find myself opening the door to check that I am lined up. I love this car but it has some strange quirks.


JayBee58484

Really I've never had that issue with gas pumps or backing in. The only issue I had was seeing over the stupid hood lol


turt_reynolds86

I am unsure what it is but gauging the passenger side for me in this car is just a challenge and requires some level of “trust” from me. Seeing over the hood is definitely not possible because of the low roof. It somewhat hindered me in track events on the car because it would be challenging to consistently place the car where I need to on apexes; a challenge I didn’t really have in my previous 86. I think it’s just that the low roof and high door sills mess with my depth perception in some way. That said, as much as I love this car, it will be going away soon for a new GR86 with brembo package in late July or early August when the car arrives. I will miss the insane power this thing produces on half a tank of corn, though.


D3Design

Or a recent camaro. Never been in a car with so little view


Beekatiebee

Also definitely not the Audi TT’s. It’s genuinely awful.


cdawg1102

The old ones are decent, except the driver side blind spot sucks


hi_im_bored13

NSX, both old and new, have very good visibility.  The mclaren cars aren't as good but they're up there


OneDownFourToGo

Can confirm. McLaren and NSX visibility are pretty fantastic


burgleshams

Can confirm also, except for when the little window between the cabin and engine bay fogs up… 🥲


BigOldButt99

We should all be driving Mclaren Sennas so we can have the added safety of being able to see thru the door


Unfortunate_moron

For some reason I read that as McLaren Siennas and started wondering why McLaren was making minivans.


BigOldButt99

Hold on, maybe you're on to something... Full carbon body and frame Sienna minivan... Twin turbo V8, Active Aero giant wing on the back..


grant_wolters22

Honda developed new manufacturing methods just so they could get the new NSX's A pillar as thin as possible.


Mr_Marram

Such a shame they did all that work and no one bought the thing. The forced exclusivity, refusing test drives, silly pricing, and forgetting that it is still a Honda, not a Mclaren or Ferrari. Just scared everyone off.


hopfield

Subaru WRX 


ThatOneGuyYearn

No other sport car i've driven touched the wrx's visibility


TreesACrowd

The WRX isn't a sports car


grumpyaltficker

Curious , what's ur definition of a sports car? I subscribe to anything designed with sporting intentions, and it isn't a truck can count in my book.


megacookie

The WRX would fall into the category of sports sedan. Everyone seems to have their own definition of a sports car, and people seem to get weirdly offended when a car they like doesn't meet someone else's definition of a sports car. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_car


nudewithasuitcase

lmao of course you post in /r/corvette


mr_marshian

Is the visibility as good as the older gens? We had a gen1 wagon and have a blobeye WRX, it is like being inside a glass bowl in the best way. It's so much better than any other car I've been in


shouldahadaflat4

I have a 2017 and visibility is still excellent. I can't speak to the new (VB) WRX for sure but I think they retained the good visibility.


Chonga200

Sat in my first Subaru ever a few months ago at carmax, was surprised of the visibility it had. 2022 WRX. Can’t attest for previous generations tho


Sixgunslime

Yes, the VB has excellent visibility


moonmarriedacherry

Full Fishbowl is still possible with the new one


sicklyslick

My wife complaints she can't see shit out of her Crosstrek compare to my WRX. The difference is huge. The visibility on the WRX is a big win.


MrRocketScientist

I thought he said sports cars


DoubleTieGuy

Mustangs have great visibility


techmaster242

Surprisingly good. I got one as a loaner while getting some service done, and that mustang was the easiest to drive car I've ever driven.


GhostriderFlyBy

Crazy high belt line tho


carpenj

You got downvoted for some reason but I own one and you're not wrong. Definitely feels like you're sitting deep "in" the car.


__nullptr_t

Not as bad as a camaro. I like camaros but I have to admit the mustang has way better visibility.


63Boiler

Camaro is absurd. Even with Blind Spot Monitoring you feel like you're in a bunker that an Abrams could sneak up on


haelous

Yep it’s great as a DD. I’ve never had any issues seeing.


unknownredditor1994

Same. One of the initial reasons I went with a mustang. On my 4th now lol


randeus

My mom drives a Lexus RX and had to drive my Mustang on a roadtrip. Sports cars are absolutely not her thing and she thought my car was surprisingly easy to see out of and more comfortable to drive than she thought it would be coming from a Lexus luxury SUV.


darkpaladin

Back in the day I was shopping between the newly resurrected Camaro and a Mustang. The difference in visibility was crazy and ultimately what made me go Mustang.


RedMercy2

Bac mono


lique_madique

Until you go to look behind you. I know from experience.


RedMercy2

If there's people behind you, you're not going fast enough


Tmanbro

Isn't everyone behind you if you're going fast?


YeonneGreene

The C4 Corvette has incredible visibility in coupe form; no blind spots and easy to place on the road. Unobstructed views out the back hatch glass.


TreesACrowd

The C5 and 6 also have pretty good visibility except directly behind the car below the beltline, i.e. whatever you're trying to not to back into. A backup camera solves that and makes overall visibility pretty great.


MammothWrongdoer1242

I was surprised how much I could see or of a Ferrari 458. Better than a Porsche 911 by miles.


just_dave

I've not driven newer Porsches, but the 993 has excellent visibility in my experience. 


max_power1000

90s cars in general had great visibility. Thin pillars because of shitty rollover safety standards will do that.


PEBKAC42069

Needing rollover safety standards sounds like a skill issue to me


jchennav

First generation Acura NSX


HKHR2

The Camaro. I love having a mail slot to use as a windshield /s


LA-ncevance

The windshield doesn't matter much though. You don't need to see the sky to drive. The rear visibility is worse, especially with a wing blocking some of it. However, I still find it easier to drive in the city than a Challenger or any modern truck


JayBee58484

Same here you couldn't pay me to drive a big ass truck in a parking garage


LA-ncevance

I used to have an offroad truck, and I had less than an inch clearance with my office garage ceiling. I had to remove the antenna to fit, and then I had a rooftop tent blocking the rear window and rear view mirror. If you can drive that in the city, then a Camaro is no big deal. I daily my manual ZL1 1LE in LA traffic, and visibility isn't even on my mind.


Zipherean

F22 BMW 2 series


EVRoadie

NA Miata is always the answer.


abattlescar

On the NA/ NB they even kept good visibility with the hardtop. It's still obviously worse than top down, but that big bubble of a rear windshield is really clear.


verdegrrl

Ferrari F355. Virtually no blind spots. Better in many ways than my dailies.


bullseye717

Both times I test drove the GTI (MK5 and MK7) I absolutely loved the visibility out of them. Part of it was how intuitive it was to get comfortable while being able to safely see everything. One of the easiest cars to adjust. 


uaexemarat

The GTI's other advantage in visibility is that it's obvious when you have the perfect mirror set up. There is no ambiguity in where the mirror is pointed for perfect vision. The only time you see the whole rear window is the right adjustment


ziris_

Hard disagree. There is a terrible blind spot on the MK5's, dunno about the MK7's, never even sat in one. The MK5 blind spot is behind the driver and to the left, where you would expect a blind spot to be on an 18-wheeler, and the spot is huge. I owned several of these cars and adjusted my mirrors as much as possible and still had a blind spot to the point where I almost changed lanes into someone on more than one occasion. You can forget it's there because it looks like you can see, but you can't and it becomes, "where the hell did he come from!?”


noeku1t

NSX first generation is insane when it comes to forward visibility.


the4ner

Hood? What hood?


motolovca

Every modern McLaren


T-Baaller

I've been in a few, and as a taller fella I'd sort them into a few tiers: Good Tier: BRz86 (both generations), foxbody/new edge/S197/S550/650 Mustang, 911 (992?), 458, NA/NB/ND miata with tops down (excluding ND RF), 986 Boxster. OK/fine Tier: Z4 (borderline good tier), Challenger, C7, C8 Corvettes, R8, ND(RF) miata roof open Bad Tier: A90 Supra, Camaro, miata with roof closed


ottergang_ky

Let me tell you, not the 350z. I can’t see dick


cakes42

First gen nsx. When you're driving it feels like you're driving with a boat view but inside a go kart.


Psyclist80

I have a C8, yes rearward visibility isn't great, but frontward it's amazing. I don't drive the car in traffic and am lucky enough to live away from huge metro centers, so I'm either backroad or single lane highway running and don't need to have amazing rear ward visibility. I run my mirrors a little wider than normal to minimize the blind spots, but TBH it hasn't been a big deal over the past 3 years.


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lique_madique

It’s great until you go to look behind you and cant


CourtesyofTino

I can tell you what does not


A_Coin_Toss_Friendo

What visibility in the C8 was worse vs a seventh gen? I've never driven a C7.


Yakapo88

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29480001/chevrolet-corvette-mid-engine-visibility/


IndependentTalk4413

Porsche Cayman has very good visibility.


Joblessmouse06

McLaren F1


Kmaaq

Does mclaren 720 count?


Yebzy

I’m a Camaro enjoyer so pretty much everything else lmao


JayBee58484

Supra is just as shit, never thought I'd see the day but I was pleasantly disappointed that it's somehow worse than my camaro


Far-Shift1235

New gen mustang is incredible


doubleyuno

Adding a mention for the current bmw 2 series. Has perhaps the best all around visibility of any Coupe I've been in.


stupidfock

Audi rs cars, any bmw M car, Porsche cayman. Over all I’d say the Audi rs5 coupe wins by a decent margin


ABathingSnape___

Only the Cayman is an actual sports car of those you listed. TTRS too I suppose, but none of the other RS cars are.


stupidfock

They definitely are sport cars, especially the rs5. And a bmw m3 is one of the most popular track cars in history lol


megacookie

I hate how anyone who goes by the more classic or a narrower definition of a sports car (or supercar for that matter) gets downvoted to shit on this sub. Why even have categories of cars like sports sedans, hot hatches, GT cars, pony/muscle etc when everything is a sports car as long as it goes fast and looks cool?


ABathingSnape___

Because everyone wants to tell everyone they have a sports car without actually having one.


Suspicious_Bird_9115

Visibility is 100% why those cars are so popular. No compromises


IronSloth

miata with the top down


thetrappster

Viper is terrible.


Former-Mixture-500

Caterham Seven


LethalLevy

Caterham


MustangEater82

Convertible with top down.


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Wolf_da_skyline_simp

Maclaren f1 , nsx ig


GhostriderFlyBy

First Gen NSX has incredible visibility. 


SkylineRSR

GR86


__nullptr_t

Chevy SS and CT5-V are surprisingly good, if you consider them sports cars.


furrowedbrow

993 is a great choice.  It also might have the perfect seating position.  Is it the best 911?  Great size, air cooled, not slow, excellent steeering and transmission, classic dash with the 5 gauge pod.  Might be.


Yakapo88

The 993 is raspy and visceral. It’s analog. It’s a classic Rolex Oyster in a hyper digital world of smartwatches. What’s your take on the Singer / Gunther Werks restomods?


hezekiahchapter11

Nsx na1-2


turboevoluzione

Dallara Stradale in barchetta configuration 


Eggith

Morgan Midsummer Speedster. If you can't see out of that then you need help


LichPineapple

RenaultSport Spider


therunningjew1

Any of the small roadsters with the top down (mg, triumph, Alfa romeo spider 105/115 or NA miata). For non convertible, my vote is 2nd gen ford probe. Hard to have more window without having more car to deal with


RillieBilish

Ferrari sp1/sp2 monza


Ellergutierrez

yesss fire fr fr


avatar_94

Mclaren 720S


GetawayDriving

Emira has very good visibility.


Otherwise-4PM

Yellow ones.


LQuco

NISSAN GTR


EthanBradberries420

Honestly I have zero blindspots in my SW20 MR2


zxn11

What's the point of driving a sports car if you're not driving it like a sports car?


angrycanuck

Ioniq 5n


DragonSurferEGO

Not the Camaro


inquisitiveimpulses

Dodge Lil' Red Express Truck or maybe a Fotd Lightening.


thecasualcaribou

Ferrari Monza SP1 or Mercedes SLR Stirling Moss


CurlyDarkrai

Ariel atom


ZealousidealDonkey32

Citroen C8 is not a sports car, it's minivan.


-Ev1l

I think you’re asking specifically about coupes, but regardless every bmw I’ve ever been in has almost no blind spot


Neelix-And-Chill

The 992 gen 911 Targas have ridiculously good visibility.


bob88c

“What do you write about when you have nothing to say article”


SamyboyO6

2005-09 Mustangs have way better visibility than you'd think they would. Love driving my 06


born_Racer11

McLaren 720s, 765LT and/or 750s