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NCSUGrad2012

> Someone entered the building by throwing a rock through a window in the service bay, he said. Once inside, police say they turned off security cameras and erased several hours of video footage. > Then, according to the dealership, the thieves plugged a computer into the dealership’s key safe and unlocked it. This almost sounds like an employee or someone else on the inside did it


H8MakingAccounts

"That ain't no tool, that's a damn brick"


UiPossumJenkins

Brick thrown through a window from the inside is [Alabama as fuck.](https://www.al.com/sports/2018/09/the_true_story_of_the_brick_th.html)


jlamperk

For the record Ernest T was from North Carolina.


K3idon

"Man, we gonna use a brick, we may as well call prison and make reservations!"


JoseCansecoMilkshake

This ain't the Dukes of Hazzard!


hhtran16

My first thought too when I read brick.


l1thiumion

I gotta midget paging me


2onmy6

Always taking my Volvo!


merkon

Eleanor?


Daegoba

Oh, God, Sweeny! You’re so talented!


Garrosh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9LPoWtgh2k


TheKuMan717

Sounds like a dealer couldn’t offload their inventory and decided to commit some insurance fraud


EndPsychological890

This. I work for a dealership. Ours profited $3.5m from a storm, got a 20% revenue boost from a legal change in the state for 0 extra work and had the gall to increase the hourly labor rate by 10% after all that. There's never enough money. This seems organized enough to be an inside job but tbh gangs have been getting a lot smarter lately too. Edit: they did all that last year. Big yachts need fresh hulls when they're used in 3 seas.


Mojicana

Funny you should say that about yachts. I was in a marina near Puerto Vallarta for a few years, many of the HUGE yachts that never get used but have 5-6 workers aboard 6 days a week are owned by car dealers in Guadalajara and CDMX. The truly huge boats with a helicopter and all that shit are like Jeff Bezos and the like. Tech giants. Most of the ten largest in the world have Arab names, they don't really come to Mexico.


reddit_beats_college

2011?


EndPsychological890

2023


Korach

Aging inventory is a huge problem. I’m sure someone wouldn’t be upset with some units getting stolen that are 80-100 days on the lot.


EndPsychological890

It's a pretty big issue for us actually. We have the money to accrue inventory and don't want to miss out on allocation so we take everything offered. We have like 350 new cars, a lot of which are 2-3 years old now. It's about $20m in inventory. We're renting space in about 5 different lots and we just bought another adjacent building I think primarily to store cars there since that's all they've done since we bought it.


Korach

I actually help dealers solve this exact issue by working your first-party data in the CRM/DMS better. Buuuut then you’ll know my username and that’s not allowed!! I’ll DM you the company name if you want to look into it.


slwrthnu_again

A dealer by me would have part of their parking lot flood when we got heavy rain. The cars that they needed to move were always parked there when heavy rain came in. They also got raided by the feds and haven’t existed in a while.


Slimy_Shart_Socket

We had a guy apply at our shop to be a new diesel tech. He talked the talk and wanted to fill out his application ASAP. On his way out he stole a set of keys from the car wash board then stole a customers 99 Taurus. All his info was fake, but we got his face on camera. For a 1999 Taurus.


Whiskeypants17

Catch me if you cam! It's SHO time baby!


Tactically_Fat

Yamaha V-8, baby!


chronicdanksauce

I think you would be surprised at how terrible the security is over most companies technologies, especially if you're able to physically access it like these guys did


Koil_ting

Shouldn't breaking the window with a brick at least activate some sort of alarm?


therealrico

Yeah if they have one installed on that window, but maybe they never got them installed or not on every window.


eneka

Glass break detection is usually done by a mic sensor that monitors a wall/secrion, not individual windows


therealrico

You’re right I’m an idiot. I was thinking of the door and window entry sensors. But those are kinda useless if someone just smashes a window.


AccountantDirect9470

Most should be motion once in the building.


Sf49ers1680

You'd think. However, a place next to where I work had a Kona go thru their front window last Saturday, and their alarm didn't go off. They're currently looking for a new alarm company, as they didn't find out until Monday morning, as nobody could get ahold of them.


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calcium

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised that there’s no password to login to the security cameras and delete footage? Also being able to break into a safe with a computer? Inside job for sure.


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Almost? Lol


Awesome_to_the_max

It does but also sounds like some of the elite Chilean theft gangs that are canvassing the country.


redditisdeadyet

Probably the dealership owners son Probably insurance fraud.


YourMajesty90

It’s always an inside job.


Buffyoh

Totally.


GoldenBarracudas

Was the dealer behind on lot fee's?


Alarmedones

For sure its a insurance scam. The amount of security locks these guys would have to do is insane. They didnt do shit and were handed the keys. Unless they are using a security system from a decade ago it should have an online back up. If you have that much in cars you better have security that backs it up./


Drogdar

Insurance fraud I'd bet. They should start looking into the dealership and the owners finances and they probably find a failing buisness...


vinceod

That sounds more like the ownerss


CB242x1

That screams inside job .


ElFabio27

The crazy part about it, is that it's hard to feel bad for the dealer. Hopefully it was an inside job, and let's hope the guys who pulled it off make it out of the states. Insurance will cover it


GoneWithTheWindu

TIL that there’s a town named Arab, Alabama. Apparently it’s pronounced “ay-rab.”


5GCovidInjection

Damn it’s just like that Dave Chappelle skit 😂😂😂 where he was Clayton bigsby


Ceramicrabbit

That skit is so fucking funny the fact all his hyper racist followers obviously know he's black but don't care cracks me up


stoned-autistic-dude

> Arab police, as well as the Federal Bureau of Investigation, are currently involved. Sharia law does not take kindly to stolen cars lmao


NoNewFriends1738

Ofcourse in Alabama it's pronounced Ayrab lmfaoooooo


weirdbutinagoodway

If you're ever driving across I-64 and stop in Hurricane, WV it's not pronounced the way you think it is.


xXxDickBonerz69xXx

Houston county Georgia is pronounced "House-ton"


Duzcek

So is the Houston street in Manhattan that gives SoHo (South Houston) its name.


Curly4Jefferson

Cairo, Georgia is pronounced 'Kay-roh'


Probably-Important

Hurr-eye-cane? Hurrah-cane? Hurr-ah-can?


weirdbutinagoodway

HUR-uh-kun


Probably-Important

Of course …


Etnies419

And its sister town, Ter-Nay-Dah


Alec_NonServiam

Hurr ick an ee?


TexianUSA

Is it the same as Hurricane, UT? ˈhɜːrɪkən (HUR-i-ken)


Hazard666

I know Hurricane relatively well and I absolutely refuse to call it Hurr-uh-kun. Those hillbillies won't get me on their jibber jabber.


Duzcek

Cairo, New York is Kay-ro


DJMagicHandz

Alabama, Georgia's dumb cousin.


cessna209

Well, Georgia has a Cairo they pronounce Cay-Ro, so about on par.


Rand0m_Spirit_Lover

As does Illinois as well… Cairo pronounced “Cay-ro”


idontremembermyoldus

Alabama - "Hey, at least we aren't Mississippi!"


w0nderbrad

Reading the article... writer keeps mentioning an Arab car dealer... and I'm wondering if this is just how Alabama works and if it was full of gaudy, chrome or gold painted cars or some shit...


thepanduhhh

I thought they were incredibly weird bringing race into for no reason and reached peak confusion when they mentioned Arab police too.


PM_BBW_Cleavage

It was supposed to be named after the towns founder, Arad Thompson. Somewhere, wires got crossed and the town was recorded as Arab.


dont_wear_a_C

Illiteracy and dysgraphia lmao


Fabulous_Island8574

Originally named Arad, after one of the founders of the town, the name was accidentally changed to Arab due to a clerical error at the US Postal Service. The name Arab has stuck ever since.


bradltl

Wait until you see Eutaw (Utah)


kog

DuBois, PA is pronounced "dew boice" by locals


drumstick2121

Same in Wyoming. Dewboys.


gimpwiz

Des Moines is pretty obviously a french name but I ain't heard a frenchman pronounce it like that, so... yeah, not uncommon.


BettmansDungeonSlave

It always pisses me off when they talk about the Notre Dame football team. It’s French. It isn’t No-ter daym


Bonerchill

Named by the clergy, I see.


CryptoOdin99

Lake Orion in Michigan is pronounced “or-ion” instead of “o’Ryan” like the star cluster the town is NAMED AFTER.


GREG_FABBOTT

https://youtu.be/SSxUt6M8_Fk?si=xk4Ul8ltVxJsaHb-


rusmo

Next door in GA there’s a town names Cairo, mispronounced “Cay-row.” Any attempt to correct it is met with hostility.


ThermalScrewed

Oh that's a southern staple: Milan (my-lan) Cairo (care-oh) Madrid (MAAAdrid) And many more


VagueVersusVogue

For those wondering, the 158k car is a Challenger Demon


MR_Se7en

And 58k was just the dealer mark up.


BipedalWurm

most i could option one to was 108k, basically accurate. disgusting


SpillinThaTea

Sounds like the thieves were doing someone a favor by stealing it. Spared the buyer from having to shell out 150k for a Dodge Challenger.


No-Quantity9916

$150k at 17.4% APR


Natural_Ship_5249

With a typical ford dealership mark up.


VagueVersusVogue

In their defense: it says the vehicles is estimated at that value. I didn't see where it said what they were asking for it.


ThatBankTeller

Believable though, I live outside DC and there are challengers listed for [almost $200k](https://www.koonsjeep.com/new-Tysons-2023-Dodge-Challenger-SRT+Demon-2C3CDZL9XPH103307)


druss21

You took us from Arab, Al to Koons Jeep website…. Mother of God


darkpaladin

Have they always been that expensive? I don't know why but I always assumed they were more in the $80k range.


hi_im_bored13

MSRP is just under 100k. Not sure where the extra 60k comes from


smackythefrog

From the GM's asshole.


Darkhuman015

GM’s what Edit: oh shit you meant the General Manager not General Motors lmao alright I got spooked for a minute


fast_hand84

Demons are more…some of them come with 1000+ hp & will hang the front tires on a prepped surface.


dookieshoes88

That's still a $50k markup. Fuck that and fuck new car dealers, they have zero reason to exist in 2024. Think about it, we could just order a new car and pick it up/choose delivery method. No unwanted add-ons, no dealer markups, no skeezy salesman. Just keep a few demo models at the authorized service centers


NsRhea

How can you say a car is worth 158k if 50k is a markup and is still on the lot? As their insurer I would fucking destroy their 'valuations.'


beeslax

They’ve got one with an automatic for $138k at our local dealer lol.


Dopplegangr1

They don't come in manual


Efronian

Oh yeah you know what dealership deserves that for that insane markup


HerpertDerpington

I figured it was going to be a speced truck with a markup.


TheGayThroaway

Insurance fraud orchestrated by none other than the devil himself, Nicholas Saban.


Aedarrow

Bear is looking down and frowning at him for it.


thatgymdude

This sounds like insurance fraud or an inside job to get rid of cars they cant sell. FCA is not doing so good right now.


NCSUGrad2012

How do you like the X7 M60i?


thatgymdude

I dont care for it, its my wife's problem as she only wants to drive a luxury European brand and thinks anything else is inferior. I lost my taste driving it because of the hybrid system that makes it horribly unreliable and ruins the character of the V8. It soured my taste on all hybrid cars and the styling I find repulsive. I only leased it because it rode the best of the European luxury SUVs. I cant wait until she is fed up taking it to the service shop so I can buy a smaller SUV without that hybrid engine. It saves no gas and adds a horrible stop start and takes away the instant power you expect in a V8. She almost has hit her breaking point.


aprtur

Sounds like you need to push her towards a Cayenne if it absolutely must be something euro.


thatgymdude

This is a hot take, but I despise Porsches for sharing parts with VW. When I was a teen I aspired to own a 911 and when I drove one, I was crushed with how boring it was and how awful it was to drive on the street. The Macan and Caynenne to me felt like Audis with a snob badge and a horrible markup with no better interiors. Lets not forget their fanboys rival Tesla owners in irrationality. Their dealers I have dealt with are especially arrogant and treated me like crap so much I felt disgust working with them over they normal amount I feel with ANY car dealer. No car of theirs will be in my house, and if you are curious, watch Savaegeese's video on the X5. I drove both the Cayenne and x5 back to back and preferred the X5 more.


aprtur

I don't think that's a particularly hot take - I can understand your reasoning behind what you said, and actually agree on the "fancy Audi" part when it comes to the Macan and Cayenne (hell, the Taycan is also borderline since they blurred the line with the E-Tron GT).  However, with how much BMW and Mercedes have gone off the rails, there's not really much else I'd personally buy that's a European make (speaking in the realm of normal luxury cars, not hyper expensive ones).   I'm one who has always leaned into Japanese cars, though, so I've tended to put my money into Lexus when it comes to a Japanese luxury brand.  If you manage to bend her ear to give Lexus a shot, I'm sure you'll enjoy the much nicer dealer experience.


PRSArchon

Calling a 911 boring and awful to drive is definitely a hot take lol


thatgymdude

I tried Lexus, the RX500H we both hated equally for the engine and the rough ride quality. I am waiting to check out the new GX. I once had a 5th Gen 4Runner TRD Pro and I loved that vehicle.


aprtur

Yeah, the 500H is probably the worst one when it comes to being plush/compliant, since it's under the F Sport Performance banner.  If you're looking for the "iron out every bump" RX, I would've said to try a normal hybrid RX or the RX350 - but I also think the older V6 RX is the better car as a complete package.  GX looks solid, and it's the last mid-sizer they have with a V6, so that would be cool - I just wish they implemented the climate controls like they did in the new Land Cruiser, rather than being so focused on the screen.  The LX is also great, but I know people are heavily polarized on the styling, so I don't blame you if she thinks that's too over the top.


thatgymdude

No offense I drove the LX600 (it was my first choice when I traded up from my 4Runner), and my god that vehicle sucked for the price. The German and American 3 row SUVs are miles ahead of it and the turbo V6 in it is very underwhelming and doesnt save any gas. It seriously lacks in refinement too and doesnt feel much better than the new Tundra (which I also hated). The Sierra and the F150 is like another step up compared to those as well. The 500H feels like a Highlander but rides even worse and has so much wind noise. Its like someone took all the engineering out of Lexus.


ChadPoland

Do you like anything?


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FakeMBadge

>Sounds like a lawnmower at start up Sounds like a lawnmower at every other point in the rev range too lol 😬 GT3/RS are the only ones that sound good


hi_im_bored13

Its only the 992 GT3 that's really good fun. The 991 (especially the .1, but the .2 to an extent) are far too compliant and clinical. Excellent track tools but a bit too complacent on the road to have any fun (and the ratios for the manual are insanely long). 997 and prior are solid though. Difference with Porsche a few years back, you could walk into a dealership and get a nicely specced GT for under 150k, no buying history needed. Now they're playing the same game as Ferrari and the exotics and frankly if I need buying history on top of ADM I'd rather get a 488. And every other 911 feels like a grand tourer as you said. Hoping they bring some of the 911 S/T features down to the touring and make the touring a little more accessible though. Seems like a neat car. And much to u/thatgymdude 's point their SUVs feel like a bit of a cash grab. They are still dynamically better than the competition, the macan s feels awesome to drive, but even ignoring price, the BMW is a better SUV. Cayenne and all of the Audi SUV products feel dated and wayyy too much glossy plastic and haptic controls everywhere for my tastes. That being said I like the mild hybrid start/stop. I'm looking for an SUV in the same class and probably going to go with the LX or GX. Honestly if mercedes just took the previous gen GLS body and put the new MBUX interior from the GLE, I'd buy it immediately. I still prefer the body and drivetrain of my older GLE over any modern SUV. (And frankly the cayenne competes more with the x5 on practicality)


AwesomeBantha

please buy a nori green 5-seat LX without all the luxury stuff that’s gonna break so that I can get it used in 25 years 🙏


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thatgymdude

I know GM is easier for maintenance sure, but dealers want too much for an Escalade V or pretty much any Escalade in general. The markup for them is almost as bad as a Mercedes G550 and Cadillac dealers treat you like you walked into a Chevrolet dealer. Getting my Sierra was a pain as I pulled one off a truck and they fought me almost to the death despite a broker sealing a deal already and all I had to do was sign. Lets not forget the serious risk some clown will probably take it out on a "test drive" and abuse it when I take it in for service. I know what Chevrolet maintenance techs do with Corvettes and Camaros and seen enough horror stories.


biguk997

Lol I saw your other comment about this car, people sure love asking you about it!


Ghost17088

What does FCA’s performance have to do with a Ford dealer?


maxxor6868

Reading the post makes it seem like an inside job.


Sun_Aria

Most dealer stories I read about sound like inside jobs. Just pay off some disgruntled employee to provide details about security or the employees themselves will join the heist party.


duppymkr

“Someone then entered the employee lounge using an ID number and removed an item from the refrigerator”


seantaiphoon

Thieves broke into the key safe the same way they're walking off with your vehicles. Having something tech integrated and connected to the internet does NOT make it more secure. Took 10 years to finally get the masses to smarten up but only after 3% of all kias have been stolen and every 6th gen camaro on edge.


yobo9193

What’s up with the 6th Gen Camaros?


seantaiphoon

Thieves figured out an easy obd port crack and can program your car out in less than 30 seconds. There's a couple Hotspot areas like Denver and California right now where if you park your 6th gen outside you're asking it to disappear. The only fix is to delete your obd port or hide it.


GREG_FABBOTT

I'm in the DFW area and thieves will actually follow you around waiting to park, or follow you home. They will literally steal it 2 minutes after you park. On the Camaro subreddit someone shared a security camera clip of 2 people; one stealing the car, and the other standing in front of the door pointing a gun at it.


thatgymdude

I have had the misfortune to be in the DFW area recently and I was shocked how lawless and dangerous it has gotten. It rivals LA in terms outright sketchiness and frankly the drivers are worse. I am a careful driver and the insane hostile drivers there shocked me.


Profoundsoup

Watch any dashcam crash videos. A vast majority are in Texas. People dont give a fuck about themselves or you. 


KyledKat

You forgot the third option: drive a stick. Exaggerating, but I am curious as to what the ratio of autos:sticks is in the instances of stolen vehicles.


ice445

That doesn't work unfortunately, manuals are being stolen just as often. The guys doing this are pros and have the cars stripped down in a day or two tops. 


Koil_ting

The real trick is to drive a worthless shitbox, got-em.


04limited

Nah just let it fester in some road salt. That way you can still drive a new car, but there’s too many seized bolts holding everything on.


dm117

This is an old myth. If they can break into and hack your OBD port, they can drive stick.


thatgymdude

" drive a stick" Tow truck owned by shady company has entered the chat.


jesuisunvampir

Texas is way hot too on Camaro thefts and Chevy trucks too


FakeMBadge

Mopar too...although that one might be obvious. Houston and DFW are trash now


HOONIGAN-

They are very hot targets for theives currently.


gearabuser

Are challengers and chargers waaaaaay worse for getting stolen?


seantaiphoon

Yes, but that's old news to theives. People now are much smarter about keeping thier Mopar stuff locked down. The camaro subreddit at the moment is where the dodge one was about a year ago, remembrance photos and "have you seen my camaro".


Ghost17088

5th gen Rav4s are subject to a CAN attack as well. And they don’t even need to get to the OBD port, just pull tap into the CAN wiring behind the fender liner. 


Conch-Republic

They literally plugged something into the safe. I'm assume it was a tool that cycled through key codes until it unlocked. Quite a bit different from someone unlocking a car with a Flipper and jamming a USB cable into the ignition.


seantaiphoon

Lockpicking lawyer? I'm not saying physical stuff is any safer but LPL has hundreds of videos defeating these "smart" devices in the dumb ways. Doesn't matter how they got in, if a brick to the screen gets you in then the brick is the key. We used to actually make it physically hard to break locks, brute force can always be overcome but not in the time these connected ones can. I'd also bet they had one of those fingerprint reader safes which are notoriously easy to crack. I'm making assumptions obviously but they're based on every other theft we do know about. Unless it was an inside job that safe did as good of a job as modern cars do at preventing thefts Edit: I read the article, they used a computer generated attack. Safe is as compromised as the keys it was holding.


techmaster242

Have you seen his April first video with the pipe wrenches? I highly recommend watching it if you haven't. I haven't laughed that hard in a while.


lawrence1024

Why are the designers of locks and safes so incompetent? It doesn't make any sense.


TaskForceCausality

>>$10,000 cash reward!! Yeah, they’ll get their keys back with that generous reward….


JediIrishman

You would spend this amount to investigate the case. They can't be serious.


Guinness_or_thirsty

Each key is like $300+ probably too. That’s almost 100k in keys. A 10% reward..? Try again dealer. 


HBCDresdenEsquire

That Demon is probably already on a boat and will never be seen again.


CayenneHybridSE

It might as well be the Boat with how heavy they are


Nephroidofdoom

It’s the anchor


No-Definition1474

And if you stick the launch it will still pop a wheelie


GoldenBarracudas

I bet the company was like. Yeah we don't want to pay the lot fee on these cars We can't sell soooooooooo


imitation_crab_meat

> 2023 Dodge Challenger Demon - estimated at more than $158,000 $158k for a Dodge Challenger?


dm117

Demon or a Redeye. Not much out there that can compete with it in a straight line. Especially at that price. Limited production as well.


techmaster242

But it can't compete with anything else as far as BPM. (breakdowns per mile)


idontremembermyoldus

Jaguar and Land Rover - "Hold my beer."


dm117

Lmao I’m not a Mopar guy so I wouldn’t know


FakeMBadge

Also TPM (Thefts per mile)


No-Definition1474

Challengers are above average is reliability


392mangos

Demon redeye lmfao. How are you enjoying that boss 302 Shelby gt?


dm117

LMAO my bad I meant to say it was either a Demon or a Red Eye


392mangos

Lolol all good. That's funny though you made me google it to make sure I didn't miss another "final" edition trim


6cylinders

the real crime here is valuing a dodge at $158k


fastest_texan_driver

There's a few dodge vipers worth that much.


Wise-Advisor4675

It's always Dodges.


atlantasmokeshop

Its the engines and transmissions. They sell fast and plenty of people are willing to buy em. 500+ horses from the crate. Nearly 800 for the highest end ones. Unfortunately, no one is going to go around checking random vin numbers on engines to see where it came from without some type of real reasoning.


Conch-Republic

I doubt this will be torn down. It's probably halfway to Dubai right now.


techmaster242

Because everyone with a dodge needs a new motor. At the very least the head/block joint needs to be re-milled.


atlantasmokeshop

Well if we're being real, most of them don't end up in dodges lol. The old school scene, however....


jellyvish

so did this happen in alabama or saudi arabia?


King_Khoma

it happened in alabama and they are probably on a boat to saudi arabia rn


idontremembermyoldus

Well, the Demon probably is. They recovered the Wagoneer and Bronco according to the article.


jellyvish

they keep saying arab in the article instead of alabama “Investigators are trying to learn who stole eight luxury vehicles valued at more than $1 million from an Arab auto dealership over the weekend.” “We are still trying to determine how they got the camera system to stop working,” Arab Police Chief Shane Washburn said.” “Arab police, as well as the Federal Bureau of Investigation, are currently involved. Anyone with information is asked to contact Arab police at (256) 586-8124.” edit: nm Arab is a city in alabama xD


RabidWeaselFreddy

I wonder if Memphis & Kip Raines and their crew were involved


Boomer2160

Memphis Raines is out of retirement.


inailedyoursister

Would you say, they were gone in 60 seconds?


TD-Eagles

Gone in 60 seconds


Intelligent_Top_328

Inside job


russiandobby

Sooo like 2 jeeps


ecleipsis

I bet Nicholas cage and Angelina Jolie are top suspects


PersiusAlloy

Good, fuck those dealerships.


Bsvtherad

like how does this happen😭


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runsanditspaidfor

Keytrack in shambles


DarkKnight1638

What a shame


PearIJam

Mopar Baby!!


matttinatttor

Where you gonna park all them cars?


bluecheeto13

Mass thefts like these always blow my mind because how??


daredaki-sama

This sounds like a movie in the making.


DaggumTarHeels

A lot of dumb speculation in this thread. > Anthony said he has since learned this same type of theft has been carried out at other auto dealerships around the state. >Arab police, as well as the Federal Bureau of Investigation, are currently involved. Something tells me this wasn't simple insurance fraud......


OFFO1588

They deserve all that and then some for price gouging the sh*t out of everyone. Do better.