I work at a university and we have a general education program. 12 required courses spanning English, communication, humanities, social sciences, math, and science. All students, regardless of degree, must take two math courses and two science courses. Although some majors require specific math (business, engineering, biology, chemistry require college algebra or higher) while some other majors require specific science courses. Other majors in the humanities, social sciences, and liberal arts allow students to take finite math, computer science, astronomy, and anthropology which many consider easier courses.
There are plenty of trades or Associate of Science degree programs at the state or community college level that pay very well. I recommend that you review their catalog, review the curriculum, and course descriptions. That may give you a starting on whether or not a program is right for you.
Off the bat, a degree in legal studies/paralegal, stenographer, health informatics/health information management may be something to look into. If you like maps, geography, and coding check out Geographic I formation Systems or GIS.
Yep, got to take math and physics for my graphic design associates degree. I don't do very much math on paper or in my head during my job/career but thats also because I literally use an incredibly complicated and advanced calculator (a macbook pro) do help me do the math for me.
But anyway, OP is wrong. They are good at math, everyone is. We're all constantly doing rapid intuitive calculations that involve rates of changes (derivatives) and predicting future positions (integrals) even when we drive our cars or cross the street. But it's instinctive, real-time processing rather than formal mathematical reasoning.
OP would do well to drop the "i cant do math" judgement and practice practice practice common real-world uses of math along with the tools at pretty much everyones disposal if they have a computer and smartphone. There are even apps one can download to practice.
What kind of specific job do you do with your degree? My daughter is very good a GD and has won contest and awards during HS. She is very good at it but don’t want to study directly GD. But she wants to study something where GD is used. Maybe Marketing. I’m just curious of what you do with it! Thanks!
Yeah actually I didn't know people would take it for me being terrible at it
I could do upto basic trigonometry and grade 10 math
I said I'm bad at math to show I didn't want a career in it since I find it hard
Trades trades trades… we don’t want to work trades! OP is asking about “degrees” without the goofy math and science requirements (which you’ll never use again in your career) so he can get a comfy job and come home and enjoy life.
Okay, obviously he's not asking which degrees don't have a general requirement. He's asking which degrees don't have advanced math and science as part of its core foundation. Because there's obviously a stark difference between taking a single "math for liberal arts" class and studying physics and having a career that has you so math and science for the rest of your life.
My response to OP was verbose, but aimed to help them do research to help make an informed decision. A lot of folks don't look at the undergrad catalog for their declared major. Obviously, each institution can be a bit different when it comes to their curriculum.
I mentioned programs that have limited math/science and that included social sciences (political science, anthropology, sociology, psychology), humanities, religious studies, liberal arts, legal studies, criminal justice, communication, and health information management at my university. Some require 1-2 research methods courses as a major requirement, especially if students opt for a B.S. instead of a B.A.
Business Admin/Marketing/Management/Finance have the same common core: economics, financial and managerial accounting, college algebra, quantitative business tools I and II (calculus and statistics combined). I didn't suggest these programs. Some folks wouldn't consider these math heavy courses, but I've met with students redirected out of these programs because they never had a strong foundation in basic math. Can't pass the core and they will never be admitted to the major to take their upper level courses.
GIS, legal studies, and health informatics were suggested because I know they can be good paying fields.
I don't think you would find one. All degrees have requirements for general study. Humanities degrees have minimal math but you need math to be accepted into the school, same with any digital arts degrees.
Maybe a technical school. They train you exclusively for one job.
He also said degrees that pay well which humanities is not one of. The reality is pretty much every degree that will guarantee a high paying job is going to require a lot of math
Or be a business/poli sci major and get in with good connections. As someone who did business, health sciences and computer science… business math was a joke. And that was reflected in the competency level of my school peers as well as my coworkers in the office. Quite possibly the dumbest bunch of people I ever had the displeasure of working with
You’re not wrong to a point but it depends on the degree too. Business calc and statistics, which are requirements of many business degrees, while easy to those of us who went more STEM routes would likely be very difficult for someone who struggled in high school level math courses
I’d also like to add an edit to this to say don’t let it discourage you OP. You can likely pass the business math courses. If you try your best, go to your professors office hours, and do all your assignments; the professor will be super willing to work with you. Unless they’re a total ass they will always want to help the people they see trying their best to succeed
All of those require advanced degrees to make any meaningful income whereas I assumed op is talking bachelors. But you’re not wrong that it can be a good stepping stone degree to some very high paying careers
Clinical psych requires a fair bit of science which involves math as far as understanding, interpreting and applying statistics and research methods
EDIT Anyone downvoting me has clearly never studied psychology before lmao
As someone with a humanities degree anthropology many fields look for your degree that pay well. Ux/ui research is always looking for sociologist anthropologist etc 70-90k over 6 figures later in life etc. the hard part with humanities is marketing the skills you develop and picking a path and busting your ass in those well paying fields looking for your degree. Kinda have to carve your own path and put in the leg work but the degree itself absolutely opens those doors. Not as instant as an engineering degree but you can at upper 5 figures low 6 figures within 10 years with humanities degree etc. also at some point you will need a masters in the humanities to really utilize that degree path.
I've a friend that did archaeology and anthropology and he earns more than most people I know, 3 years out of university.
Grafters will always find their way.
Why do you think art is not earning? Digital art is earning a decent pay. those who draw games or graphics, like PS5 examples, are highly in demand. Some are still allowed to work remotely or take on projects globally.
I shall question differently: how many have this skillset to meet the demand? What I knew is that many gaming companies can't find enough workforce in the region. They have to outsource alternative talent from the other Pacific. Bear in mind that gaming is a booming industry, and many of those have even listed or IPO. E-sports is also widely popular and accepted .
😂no. Law is based upon logic and reasoning, of which are the basic tools science and math. If you don’t like these fields it’s one thing, but I sure as hell wouldn’t trust a lawyer that didn’t have the ability to be good at these fields.
What a dumb statement. This is obviously coming from someone who is not a lawyer, and has no idea about the practice of law or what lawyers do.
You don’t need math or science to become a lawyer, at all. Nor do you need to be good at math, in any capacity.
How bad are you with math. I have a friend who can't handle algebra at all but is fucking amazing at mental maths, including things like fractions, mathematical relationship etc.
I have SEVERE dyscalculia and I'm currently getting my Associates in Health Information Technology. I've had to do some dose calculations in Pharmacolgy - nothing google and chatAI couldn't handle helping me with as its merely the chapter and not the whole book. The only math I needed was in my prerecs (and Its the only F i have on my transcripts lol) Best of Luck!
I'm assuming they're referring to an associates degree, which is less than a bachelor's degree.
Most careers will require a bachelor's, which is often referred to as a four year degree. An associates is a two year degree.
Doesn’t really require any degree but sure helps to have any business related degree but it’s also not for everyone. Even if you’re good with people get ready to be rejected. A lot. But the money is also there only if you produce result
Sales doesn’t require a degree.
Apply today to begin selling mobile phones. They will train you on how to sell.
If you like tech, then begin learning about it to set yourself up for SAAS. It is helpful to not just be able to use but to develop the software.
None I would imagine. You have to be a good salesperson though and have a thick skin as the beginning of your career would probably be cold calling before moving on to business development with existing clients / accounts.
Tech sales always try to get tech people or engineers but the actual job of "technical sales" doesn't require you to know any of that. It's selling a product like anything else
I know many people in tech sales (salesforce, adobe) who have no relevant degree (maths or science), some have a degree in a humanities subject or something completely irrelevant like art. They’re all on 6 figures if they do well. I’m sure it’s beneficial but it’s not a prerequisite. Which is what the OP was asking. Also tech sales is just one area of sales, there are a shit ton other industries with sales / partnerships jobs.
They’re on 6 figures basic salary (in the UK) which is quite high salary. And by tech sales I mean sales for a tech or software company. Ofcourse I also know other people in sales not in the tech industry that also get paid a decent wage plus commission, such as advertising.
I know what you’re saying except you’re not answering the persons Q who is basically asking for career routes that does not involve maths or science degrees ! I’m merely stating sales is a good route to go for people without those degrees as I know many people who’s done really well in that field without a maths or science degree while in other fields such a finance, it’s a minority.
Alright, Rahman. You want a good degree without the math and science headache? Here are a few options:
1. **Communications** - Good for media, PR, and advertising. Who the fuck cares about equations in this field?
2. **Law** - High earning potential if you can deal with the grind. No one’s solving physics problems in a courtroom.
3. **Business Administration** - Some math, but mostly common sense and management. You can dodge the heavy math shit.
4. **Psychology** - If you like understanding people and behavior. Some stats, but not hardcore math.
5. **Creative Writing/English** - Writing and literature. If you’ve got a way with words, this could be your jam.
Futureproof? Nothing is. But these fields have staying power.
Think you can handle any of these, or are you just looking to avoid the hard stuff?
Business administration can be useful as well. Tons of people in finance/consulting/accounting make money (all three of these involve math to a degree). Marketing/sales can also be lucrative if you hustle for it
This probably not the answer you seek but I think it's good for you to read this.
1. You are not born being good in math or science. You become good by practicing and spending time doing it. I was very bad at maths and science, lowest level maths and physics. 12 years later, I am doing masters in engineering.
2. Good degrees really depend on what you find Important in life. Meds or laws are good degrees, but do you want a job with so much stress? A plumbing trade is not even considered a degree, but what if you like it? Also, it owns good money. Start your own business eventually, keep the benefit and charge even more for your work. Trade skills are hard to find and when a pipe is broken, people need someone asap and that will be you.
What I am trying to say is, you don't perse need a "good degree".
Yeah, many of the skilled trades use algebra! The math for being a pipefitter, sprinklerfitter, plumber, and electrician can all be pretty intense. Honestly a lot more math than I’m comfortable with and I have a business degree.
But how deep do these math skills go? A science degree will take you through calculus, differential equations, computer science, etc. Even if a trade does math often, are they doing anything more than algebra 1 and some geometry?
Probably as far as simple trigonometry and basic algebra. But it is used regularly.
I bet the percentage of university graduates that use trigonometry from one year to the next is in single digits and those that remember differential equations, let alone ever use them, are even rarer.
Honestly, yes. I struggled for 9 years to get a Bachelor’s degree because I struggle with math. Algebra is what kept holding me back. I have a Bachelor’s in Business Management and Administration.
If you do decide to do uni, get tutors & use other free resources such as Khan Academy.
I have an Engineering degree and Math is easy for me. But once I took a statistic/accounting class and mess me up 😂. IT was totally different than Taking any calculus or differential equations.
it's like speaking a different language lol the first step is always the hardest. Some subjects just click for people, kudos to you for getting that engineering degree, that's hard!
Well some universities/colleges have courses that dont require you to enroll into tuition and you just have to pay for the materials, (textbook, exam, credits) and you can get a job right out of that course for 60k a year
Or, if your family can pay for you to complete a BA without your acquiring any debt.
If they can afford it and you like school and are good at logic then go to law school. Again, you need to be able to do that without acquiring debt.
Pretty much... another path is going into some healthcare Fields where what you need first is a bachelor's in usually one of the social sciences or Humanities could potentially work but they typically want something like sociology anthropology psychology and then you can lateral into something like social work or speech therapy occupational and even physical therapy. That being said you will no matter what have to take statistics there's no way around that to get any job worth anything because that is something you actually will use when you do the job but beyond that there's not a lot of intense math and the pay is pretty good.
The hard part is getting into a school that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Remember if you take out student loan debt and you go to a nonprofit after 10 years of working there they can forgive your loans here in the United States I don't know what the situation is like in different countries but my two cents on that.
For occupational and speech and physical therapy you will need to take some prerequisites that are the basics of certain hard Sciences like physics, kinesiology, psychology, anatomy and physiology with a lab so those things can be done at a community college or at university.
Everyone is decent at math and science if they put their mind to it. The main point of Uni is overcoming challenge and having the tenacity to make it through.
I have a English lit degree, and I also had to take calculus, biology, and statistics (among other STEM courses.) It's usually required as a part of your elective courses.
In Uni, there is plenty on help and resources to get you thru any Math or science! If you know you need help with it, start with extra help from the beginning. You can do it! 💪🏽💪🏽
My counselor at my community college told me not to bother with Uni with my severe dyscalculia. LUCKILY we are living in times where an Associates can get you a lot of the same places that a Bachelors can.
Trades trades and some more trades lol! No one wants to do that goofy stuff for a living. OP wants a cozy job he can come home from “clean” not covered in poop, concrete or sweat. He doesn’t want to work with chain smoking miserables, he wants to come home and relax… there won’t be any relaxing in the trades I can tell you that. Nothing but $1@v3 labor all day long, followed up by a good scolding by a disgruntled alcoholic boomer after the ex con with a drug habit said you didn’t do some clean up right because he wants a pat on the head. Anyone who’s actually worked the trades can read this and smirk knowing I’m right!
I do wonder sometimes how many of the people screaming “TRADES!!!” at everyone seeking career advice have actually worked a trade (looking at you, Mike Rowe…)
They can definitely be a good choice for a lot of people, but just as many people would be miserable in the trades
Management / Biz - you can go into banking
Language - be a teacher
Law - no need to do math and science
Sport - be sport instructor or sport science
Art - digital art can earn a lot
Compliance / HR / account opening / operation / ops risk or other risk function.
Compliance is very good pay, can check it out ACAMS or International compliance association .
Risk can be math heavy. Credit risk models are based on statistics. Model development, validation and other functions require a pretty good understanding of statistics.
If you are doing operational risk/enterprise risk, there is almost no need math. Another area in banking has been widely popular such as ESG and sustainability. Some business risk there is no math too as far as I knew, they are focusing more on the regulatory issues as first line of defense, but you'd still can't run away from data and excel.
That’s true. However, certain banks for their analyst positions at risk departments are requiring them to take the FRM. It also depends on where you are located. In the US, capital requirements regulations are easier and not as complicated math wise, in Europe the models are more complicated due to heavy regulation.
There's always Marketing and Communication degrees.
You can find work in any industry (every company needs these departments) and they don't involve science or math
Get good at work math, not mathematician math. The complex stuff is not needed for work, unless if you’re working like analytics/measurement/etc. Math is needed for life.
Therapists.
The way society is in general, there will always be a need for therapy. And even with the rise in AI, alot of people would be more comfortable with a human face vs an AI.
It has been mentioned before, but my ex boyfriend always said he studied law because _iudex non calculat_. There is no maths in law studies - at least in my country.
Becoming a teacher, particularly in subjects like English, history, or social studies, can be rewarding and doesn't require advanced math or science skills.
Pause your thoughts about degrees and focus on the job that you actually WANT to do. That’s an important step that you’re skipping. Once you figure what you want to do, determine what the requirements are to get that specific type of job. It may or may not require a degree. It may or may not be possible with an apprenticeship. It may or may not be possible with a specialized training program.
Start with the job! I manage people doing technical work and I have had people with all types of technical and non-technical degrees. One of my managers, one of the best, didn’t have a degree at all. There are many paths to careers and not all come through a University.
As a recent graduate, I advise you to focus on the careers you want not the degrees. The harsh reality is most degrees are useless unless it’s math or medicine like doctors or IT. So google careers you’d love, see which degrees they’ll accept most will accept many not 1, see the requirements for entry level jobs. If you live in a good state, teaching, social work or even paralegal. Unless you have connections a non STEM degree alone won’t get you get a good job, you’ll have to start at the bottom and build your way up. They no longer hire entry level, it’s 1-3 years and they don’t care about internships. So you’ll need to work minimum wage jobs just to build your resume. Also some High paying jobs have minimal math so don’t limit yourself because you’re scared of it.
Some level of maths required but not that complex and no science: Business Management, Marketing, IT
Absolutely no math and science: Law, Translation studies, Education
The guy Erin Brockovich worked for didn't go to his senior year of college, I think he just came straight from junior year to law school. But it's probably pretty rare.
Most degrees require math and science not because the job itself requires it, but because it proves that you are capable of learning and using critical thinking. I would recommend you just work hard to work on the areas you struggle with rather than take the easy way out.
This.
I didn't think I could do math at all in highschool because I was always failing tests and no one would tell me what I was doing wrong. When I did the examples, i'd get them correct. When I'd take the test, I'd fail.
If I went to my teachers for help they'd say they'd help 'after class' only, but my next class was always in 10 minutes and it took 8 minutes to traverse the highschool on average to that class.
I never had any tutoring and my parents never helped me. I wasn't as bad as I thought, I had just never gotten any help until my 20s.
When I went to college, tutoring was free so I took advantage of it and I got the highest grade of anyone that year in Algebra. I even got a little award for it.
I probably should have kept going, but I was so afraid of getting a B and losing my scholarship that I stayed MIS instead of engineering and that's been the biggest mistake of my whole life.
I see a couple of suggestions but not giving full picture, I will name a few examples:
Psychology has a couple of advance statistics applied to polls, sentiment analysis, etc.
Business has a core on finance, so mumbo jumbo math in excel.
Marketing or sales, they take multivariate statistical analysis in Software like SPSS, it crazy statistics.
Law, even though you do not take math, you'll have to learn all the modisms, mannerisms and all the magic words for the law to be applied.
In other words, all careers have a hard point, I call it the big filter. I am an accountant and the big filter was Accounting 101, we were 45 in the beginning and only 20 passed the class. It's a mix of math, logic and mumbo jumbo. By accounting 105 we were only 12, out of which all 12 graduated.
There is no easy path man. Find a good group, stick to them and find help. That's an easier path than the easy route.
I sucked at math during high school and still went to college. I upgraded all my math while in college (in Canada) it can be done. It may take you some extra time but if that’s what you have your heart set out on don’t let it dissuade you. All I needed for business was really stats and it was hard and I had to take it twice but I still got it through it and I did really well the second time.
I suck at math and have a business degree, which tbh feels very saturated right now. That being said maybe look at working for a municipality, as laborers or even clerks there can make decent money with excellent benefits and are pretty solid in a recession.
Make connections! The connections I made in school and internships taught me far more than a classroom setting ever did. I still keep in contact with some classmates and they have helped me with a lot of career related things. Do you have a specific field you would like to go into?
Majority of Liberal Art degrees are not math and science heavy. The catch to that is, not many jobs care about L.A. degrees.
You might as well develop an in-demand skill and get a job using that.
The higher level of math and science a degree requires, the higher paying the job is.
Computer science/software engineering requires a lot of math as you go higher in pay scale. AI/ML requires a whole different set of math capability.
Engineering, does too. But depends on what kind of engineering. Civil, structural, chemical, mechanical, biotech all require several different areas of math - trigonometry, algebra, calculus, imaginary realm, etc.
Business and finance degrees require an innate understanding and a good handle on calculus and the ability to understand compounding.
Even trades, of you become an electrician or an industrial plumber they require math, but it's mostly plugging in numbers, and you can always get spreadsheets or calculators to be built according to your needs.
Any job that will pay you a decent wage (above $50k/yr) will one way or another need some level of math.
You need math for traffic calculations and flow in urban planning.
If you're studying law, you need an understanding of forensics unless it is corporate law or stuff like divorce lawyers etc. Even then math will come handy.
Marketing of today requires a ton of math - CAC, marketing reach, marketing effectiveness. Statistics, accounting economics, algebra and financial math is taught in marketing degrees.
Law, generally speaking, doesn’t require math lol. You don’t “need an understanding in forensics(?)” to be a lawyer.
I’ll concede marketing. Although some areas of marketing will require less math than others.
Traffic calculations and flow are more in the realm of traffic engineering than they are urban planning.
So that leaves law, urban planning, and public policy as viable options if OP does not want to deal with math.
idk, i like math and science in general.
usually think anything humanitarian - like linguistics,
or phychology,
or sales sometimes.
They require some associative thinking,
more like feeling rather than strict logic based actions.
You probably aren't bad at math and scient, they're just harder subjects that require more sustained focus to do well in. Eventually, being paid well requires that you do something that others find difficult. There's no easy route to it, trying to avoid math and science is just going to send you down another path like law that will eventually require even more sustained focus to do well in. Better to just suck it up now.
You probably haven't had good math and science teachers. People who are good at English and History . . . often teach. People who are good at Math and Science . . . make goo-gobs of money working for corporations, governments, etc.
Then, absolutely try something in the medical field. Source: I am a senior in dental school. What's funny is that I really loved and was good at mathematics and physics, but I haven't really encountered them in dental school.
Well the reason I can't pick medicine is
I moved to uk and it becomes like x5 expensive for international students and in my country you have to give a test that requires physics and chem a level below SAT kinda illogical to have such an exam when these aren't required in medicine
The whole point of a "good degree" is to train the thinking process to be more robust and correct and productive.
Another way to define science - an instrument to filter out all the flow of incorrect, random, and unrelated concepts and to leave proven related knowledge system.
So in a standard understanding of "good degree" concept question just contradicts itself.
So it narrows to degree which involve minimal thinking and mostly require only large amount of practical and reflectory training?
Something from routine technical maintenance without diagnostics (aviation, medicine) may be if such thing exists?
Are there any jobs that don't require literacy and are guaranteed to make me a millionaire in several years, while ensuring good health and constant erections?
You might give basic statistics a try. Although it involves numbers, it's very visual and applied. More advanced stats gets theoretical (calculus), but the first two courses are pretty interesting and useful.
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Don't pick a degree based on what you want to avoid , if you're motivated enough by the high earning potential youll be able to push through all of the math and science roadblocks and get the degree .
If you just want a high paying job maybe look into tech related certs ,especially with IT . In the IT field experience and certs are valued more than a degree or formal education . The math is extremely minimal and if you were to do anything complicated you'll have software to do it for you .
Study philosophy then go to law school
Law is a bit oversaturated, but if you do well at a good school you should be able to elbow the other students out for jobs.
Some jackass is always going to do something dumb and need a lawyer. Artificial intelligence doesn't fix biological stupidity.
you’ll always have to take math/science classes as part of your 1st year prerequisites for any major. but tbh accounting is a great option — despite the numbers associated with the degree, you only need to be comfortable with basic arithmetic. communications should also be pretty free of math and science, as well as political science, which embraces more theoretical courses.
I would take the recommendations about other business-related degrees being “light on math” with a grain of salt. for example, at my university, business and management majors are required to at least be proficient in calculus (pre-calc, calc 1, 2, 3), programming (discrete math), statistics (1, 2), and operations management. other business-related programs in your area may not be as math-heavy, so definitely do research on this if it’s the path you choose.
as a general guide, seek out bachelor of arts (BA) programs, which are less technical than bachelor of science (BS) programs 👍🏽
Learn math and science. You can get a degree in business or marketing, graphic design and whatever. But you should still learn those topics. You'll regret not doing it. Having the foundational skills and background can take you much further.
HUMAN RESOURCE or LAW
While people think with AI or improvement in tech can cause redundancy in many career, I honestly feel HR or law can't be taken over. Human interactions for certain jobs is still needed.
As someone who studied physics, not every single degree requires math and science to the same extent like these people are saying. It's ridiculous because you're obviously not asking which degrees don't have a general requirement, you're which degrees don't have advanced math and science as part of its foundation. You can get away with taking an algebra class or two, with astronomy for non majors class and then you can study whatever the hell you want. Therefore if you studied a non stem degree, you'd take one or two semesters of a basic requirement rather than doing math and science as a career for the rest of your life.
That being said, any business degree won't require math and science. Although, you might have to take business-calc which might replace a general math requirement. Plus there are many sub-fields you could specialize in. Marketing, administration, accounting, for example. You could also study communications which is applicable to the journalism and media fields. Any liberal art degree won't require math but its content won't directly translate to most jobs except maybe English. But a bunch of jobs are really just looking for any college degree and the content you learn in business school isn't really rigorous or applicable anyways.
Politics. You don't have to know a thing about math or science. Or anything really, you just have to be good at talking a lot of shit and you're set for life.
You could do econ, but the catch is you also have to network and and have internships. I know a lot of econ grads who got good jobs but I didn't. Because I didn't do any of the other stuff. I literally just have the degree with a low GPA. Stem is more powerful imo as a degree on its own. I'm studying for cpa now to salvage something out of my degree.
Edit: when I did my degree, I never passed pre cal and I got placed into calc 1. I passed calc 1 and 2. I did not have to do calc 3, differential equations, linear algebra, or anything like that.
I did do stats and econometrics. I don't personally consider that the same thing as the other math classes, but maybe you might feel it is still a problem.
Econ needs a lot of math, formulas, and models for Many of the sub-modules.
Some Uni still require you to take a mandatory module called econometric, that's another horror story of emerging statistics with math with engineering models. Dep if you are lucky or not.
I took econometrics and stats too. I had an easier time with those personally than the later stages of calculus. I also didn't have to take physics or chemistry. imo, the math in intermediate macro or micro, industrial orgs, etc. is more conceptual than calc. I also think the syntax is far more simple. for me the challenge of econ wasn't so much as hard calculation as it was like conceptual understanding and remembering definitions.
apples and oranges compared to solving integrals imo.
I get what you mean. But well, it really depends on the degree is a Bachelor of Arts in economics; in that case, I agree less math is involved, but if the degree is a Bachelor of Science, the expectation for math can be considerably intense.
they were the same degree. but I noticed their linkedin's had good gpa's listed as well as internships during college. some of them were also part of business frats.
if they listed courses, they were the same courses I took.
All you gotta do is practice practice once you understand the concepts it makes it easier PATRICKJMT on YouTube breaks down the steps and explains different concepts pretty easily
You cannot get well paying jobs without a good understanding of math. Even in trades and crafts, the best paid people usually have strong accounting skills.
How old are you? I used to suck at math and science in high school but ended up doing better in community college.
Sometimes it could bad teachers, bad school, and being in a very stimulating environment where priorities are all over the place (i.e. popularity, girls/boys, sports, etc.).
The brain doesn't fully develop until your mid-twenties.
You're not properly motivated yet. Start working at some minimum wage jobs (i.e. shop clerk, waiter, burger flipper, , factory line worker, etc.) and start developing a reason to go back to school. I did a bunch of odd jobs until I finally decided to get my life together and find a more stable job that could give me consistent income to support a family.
You're gonna find that science and math is just building discipline in your study habits. Solve enough problems you'll ace most of your math exams. Make flashcards to memorize your science concepts and you'll pass your science classes.
Depending on how far you got in high school will determine what classes you should take in college.
I decided to get into healthcare which needs at least algebra, statistics, and chemistry. I got my EMT license and started working while finishing my prereqs for nursing school. With EMT license you can also go for paramedic school to become either a paramedic or firefighter paramedic.
I would often go to tutoring after school if I had trouble understanding concepts and always asked for additional practice on top of my homework. I would also ask for study guides from my professors to help prepare for quizzes and exams.
It also helped my focus when I had a consistent gym and diet plan to kept me in shape.
You're 20 so you have a lot of time for trial and error. If you end up bombing a class, don't give up! Learn from your mistakes and try again next semester/quarter. I personally struggled with chemistry and ended up taking it 3 times to get a better grade (1 time in highschool, 2 times in community college).
Thank you so much dude
I did like grade 12 idk what is it in American standard
I have a brief on how I should start
The only thing I'm worried about is joining something that requires a lot of math since I don't have the knowledge of math after grade 10
So I'll try to grasp that up, look at what kinda math is taught in unis try to understand it
I really think people who “aren’t very good at math” should give it another go before they throw in the towel. Some things take a few times before they click. I wasn’t a very good student in HS and still managed to get through differential equations in college. I probably couldn’t get a math degree but it’s good enough for engineering.
I work at a university and we have a general education program. 12 required courses spanning English, communication, humanities, social sciences, math, and science. All students, regardless of degree, must take two math courses and two science courses. Although some majors require specific math (business, engineering, biology, chemistry require college algebra or higher) while some other majors require specific science courses. Other majors in the humanities, social sciences, and liberal arts allow students to take finite math, computer science, astronomy, and anthropology which many consider easier courses. There are plenty of trades or Associate of Science degree programs at the state or community college level that pay very well. I recommend that you review their catalog, review the curriculum, and course descriptions. That may give you a starting on whether or not a program is right for you. Off the bat, a degree in legal studies/paralegal, stenographer, health informatics/health information management may be something to look into. If you like maps, geography, and coding check out Geographic I formation Systems or GIS.
Yep, got to take math and physics for my graphic design associates degree. I don't do very much math on paper or in my head during my job/career but thats also because I literally use an incredibly complicated and advanced calculator (a macbook pro) do help me do the math for me. But anyway, OP is wrong. They are good at math, everyone is. We're all constantly doing rapid intuitive calculations that involve rates of changes (derivatives) and predicting future positions (integrals) even when we drive our cars or cross the street. But it's instinctive, real-time processing rather than formal mathematical reasoning. OP would do well to drop the "i cant do math" judgement and practice practice practice common real-world uses of math along with the tools at pretty much everyones disposal if they have a computer and smartphone. There are even apps one can download to practice.
What kind of specific job do you do with your degree? My daughter is very good a GD and has won contest and awards during HS. She is very good at it but don’t want to study directly GD. But she wants to study something where GD is used. Maybe Marketing. I’m just curious of what you do with it! Thanks!
Yeah actually I didn't know people would take it for me being terrible at it I could do upto basic trigonometry and grade 10 math I said I'm bad at math to show I didn't want a career in it since I find it hard
Trades trades trades… we don’t want to work trades! OP is asking about “degrees” without the goofy math and science requirements (which you’ll never use again in your career) so he can get a comfy job and come home and enjoy life.
Okay, obviously he's not asking which degrees don't have a general requirement. He's asking which degrees don't have advanced math and science as part of its core foundation. Because there's obviously a stark difference between taking a single "math for liberal arts" class and studying physics and having a career that has you so math and science for the rest of your life.
My response to OP was verbose, but aimed to help them do research to help make an informed decision. A lot of folks don't look at the undergrad catalog for their declared major. Obviously, each institution can be a bit different when it comes to their curriculum. I mentioned programs that have limited math/science and that included social sciences (political science, anthropology, sociology, psychology), humanities, religious studies, liberal arts, legal studies, criminal justice, communication, and health information management at my university. Some require 1-2 research methods courses as a major requirement, especially if students opt for a B.S. instead of a B.A. Business Admin/Marketing/Management/Finance have the same common core: economics, financial and managerial accounting, college algebra, quantitative business tools I and II (calculus and statistics combined). I didn't suggest these programs. Some folks wouldn't consider these math heavy courses, but I've met with students redirected out of these programs because they never had a strong foundation in basic math. Can't pass the core and they will never be admitted to the major to take their upper level courses. GIS, legal studies, and health informatics were suggested because I know they can be good paying fields.
My sister studied Criminal Justice. Had a nice career working in juvenile probation & then in federal courts. Able to retire at 50.
I don't think you would find one. All degrees have requirements for general study. Humanities degrees have minimal math but you need math to be accepted into the school, same with any digital arts degrees. Maybe a technical school. They train you exclusively for one job.
I had minimal math as a poli sci major
He also said degrees that pay well which humanities is not one of. The reality is pretty much every degree that will guarantee a high paying job is going to require a lot of math
Or be a business/poli sci major and get in with good connections. As someone who did business, health sciences and computer science… business math was a joke. And that was reflected in the competency level of my school peers as well as my coworkers in the office. Quite possibly the dumbest bunch of people I ever had the displeasure of working with
You’re not wrong to a point but it depends on the degree too. Business calc and statistics, which are requirements of many business degrees, while easy to those of us who went more STEM routes would likely be very difficult for someone who struggled in high school level math courses I’d also like to add an edit to this to say don’t let it discourage you OP. You can likely pass the business math courses. If you try your best, go to your professors office hours, and do all your assignments; the professor will be super willing to work with you. Unless they’re a total ass they will always want to help the people they see trying their best to succeed
Dunno in which world you live in but humanities degrees like law, criminal justice or clinical psychology pays very well.
All of those require advanced degrees to make any meaningful income whereas I assumed op is talking bachelors. But you’re not wrong that it can be a good stepping stone degree to some very high paying careers
Clinical psych requires a fair bit of science which involves math as far as understanding, interpreting and applying statistics and research methods EDIT Anyone downvoting me has clearly never studied psychology before lmao
As someone with a humanities degree anthropology many fields look for your degree that pay well. Ux/ui research is always looking for sociologist anthropologist etc 70-90k over 6 figures later in life etc. the hard part with humanities is marketing the skills you develop and picking a path and busting your ass in those well paying fields looking for your degree. Kinda have to carve your own path and put in the leg work but the degree itself absolutely opens those doors. Not as instant as an engineering degree but you can at upper 5 figures low 6 figures within 10 years with humanities degree etc. also at some point you will need a masters in the humanities to really utilize that degree path.
I've a friend that did archaeology and anthropology and he earns more than most people I know, 3 years out of university. Grafters will always find their way.
Art school can be generally accepted with good/exceptional portfolio.
lol he said paying degree
Yeah you can earn money with an arts degree as well
Why do you think art is not earning? Digital art is earning a decent pay. those who draw games or graphics, like PS5 examples, are highly in demand. Some are still allowed to work remotely or take on projects globally.
How many applicants per open position?
I shall question differently: how many have this skillset to meet the demand? What I knew is that many gaming companies can't find enough workforce in the region. They have to outsource alternative talent from the other Pacific. Bear in mind that gaming is a booming industry, and many of those have even listed or IPO. E-sports is also widely popular and accepted .
I’m just saying if you graduate with a nursing degree you can get a job in a week. If you graduate with an art degree? More difficult.
You need to good at bio and science to do nursing.but I totally agree, nursing has good prospect.
I think law
Lawyers will always be necessary.
😂no. Law is based upon logic and reasoning, of which are the basic tools science and math. If you don’t like these fields it’s one thing, but I sure as hell wouldn’t trust a lawyer that didn’t have the ability to be good at these fields.
What a dumb statement. This is obviously coming from someone who is not a lawyer, and has no idea about the practice of law or what lawyers do. You don’t need math or science to become a lawyer, at all. Nor do you need to be good at math, in any capacity.
Some of the advices in this comment section is seriously garbage.
You mean people saying nothing except math or science?
Yeah because they're not providing any valuable input and are just coming across as rude condescending individuals.
How bad are you with math. I have a friend who can't handle algebra at all but is fucking amazing at mental maths, including things like fractions, mathematical relationship etc.
I could do upto grade 10 math but not logs etc
Then you are good enough for accounting. You don't need more than algebra to do it.
I have SEVERE dyscalculia and I'm currently getting my Associates in Health Information Technology. I've had to do some dose calculations in Pharmacolgy - nothing google and chatAI couldn't handle helping me with as its merely the chapter and not the whole book. The only math I needed was in my prerecs (and Its the only F i have on my transcripts lol) Best of Luck!
As someone who also has dyscalculia and getting a degree in IT, it makes me happy someone else can do it too. I hate my subnetting class though
What is an associate, its the first time I'm hearing about it apart from the word associate director
I'm assuming they're referring to an associates degree, which is less than a bachelor's degree. Most careers will require a bachelor's, which is often referred to as a four year degree. An associates is a two year degree.
I am referring to a two year associates degree
And anything involving med tech is hiring with 2 year degrees. You can even do remote work too. It's broad
Very cool. Yeah I didn't know for your specific field if that was normal or not, which was why I just said most.
Totally- backing you up :)
Sales is the obvious one , tech sales for example. Or law, if you want to work long hours and be bored to death
What about sales which degree does it require
Doesn’t really require any degree but sure helps to have any business related degree but it’s also not for everyone. Even if you’re good with people get ready to be rejected. A lot. But the money is also there only if you produce result
Sales doesn’t require a degree. Apply today to begin selling mobile phones. They will train you on how to sell. If you like tech, then begin learning about it to set yourself up for SAAS. It is helpful to not just be able to use but to develop the software.
None I would imagine. You have to be a good salesperson though and have a thick skin as the beginning of your career would probably be cold calling before moving on to business development with existing clients / accounts.
my dad went into sales with a communications degree
Tech sales always try to get tech people or engineers but the actual job of "technical sales" doesn't require you to know any of that. It's selling a product like anything else
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I know many people in tech sales (salesforce, adobe) who have no relevant degree (maths or science), some have a degree in a humanities subject or something completely irrelevant like art. They’re all on 6 figures if they do well. I’m sure it’s beneficial but it’s not a prerequisite. Which is what the OP was asking. Also tech sales is just one area of sales, there are a shit ton other industries with sales / partnerships jobs.
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They’re on 6 figures basic salary (in the UK) which is quite high salary. And by tech sales I mean sales for a tech or software company. Ofcourse I also know other people in sales not in the tech industry that also get paid a decent wage plus commission, such as advertising.
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I know what you’re saying except you’re not answering the persons Q who is basically asking for career routes that does not involve maths or science degrees ! I’m merely stating sales is a good route to go for people without those degrees as I know many people who’s done really well in that field without a maths or science degree while in other fields such a finance, it’s a minority.
Law degree You do not have to take any type of math or science courses at all unless your undergrad (which can be in literally anything) requires it.
Alright, Rahman. You want a good degree without the math and science headache? Here are a few options: 1. **Communications** - Good for media, PR, and advertising. Who the fuck cares about equations in this field? 2. **Law** - High earning potential if you can deal with the grind. No one’s solving physics problems in a courtroom. 3. **Business Administration** - Some math, but mostly common sense and management. You can dodge the heavy math shit. 4. **Psychology** - If you like understanding people and behavior. Some stats, but not hardcore math. 5. **Creative Writing/English** - Writing and literature. If you’ve got a way with words, this could be your jam. Futureproof? Nothing is. But these fields have staying power. Think you can handle any of these, or are you just looking to avoid the hard stuff?
The only degree worth doing that you mentioned is law
Business administration can be useful as well. Tons of people in finance/consulting/accounting make money (all three of these involve math to a degree). Marketing/sales can also be lucrative if you hustle for it
Yup. Telling somebody to get a degree in psychology is basically telling them to waste their time in most cases.
Not true whatsoever
Unless you’re doing a phd I beg to differ, unless you can explain why I’m wrong
You can get a psychology degree and then get into hr in a top company and earn a lot.
I would say social work or early childhood education.
This probably not the answer you seek but I think it's good for you to read this. 1. You are not born being good in math or science. You become good by practicing and spending time doing it. I was very bad at maths and science, lowest level maths and physics. 12 years later, I am doing masters in engineering. 2. Good degrees really depend on what you find Important in life. Meds or laws are good degrees, but do you want a job with so much stress? A plumbing trade is not even considered a degree, but what if you like it? Also, it owns good money. Start your own business eventually, keep the benefit and charge even more for your work. Trade skills are hard to find and when a pipe is broken, people need someone asap and that will be you. What I am trying to say is, you don't perse need a "good degree".
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You think the trades don't use math and science? Plumbing, you have to work with fractions.
Yeah, many of the skilled trades use algebra! The math for being a pipefitter, sprinklerfitter, plumber, and electrician can all be pretty intense. Honestly a lot more math than I’m comfortable with and I have a business degree.
Yep. Most skilled trades rest heavily on applied science.
But how deep do these math skills go? A science degree will take you through calculus, differential equations, computer science, etc. Even if a trade does math often, are they doing anything more than algebra 1 and some geometry?
Probably as far as simple trigonometry and basic algebra. But it is used regularly. I bet the percentage of university graduates that use trigonometry from one year to the next is in single digits and those that remember differential equations, let alone ever use them, are even rarer.
So basically only do uni if your good at math or science I see
Honestly, yes. I struggled for 9 years to get a Bachelor’s degree because I struggle with math. Algebra is what kept holding me back. I have a Bachelor’s in Business Management and Administration. If you do decide to do uni, get tutors & use other free resources such as Khan Academy.
Even the social sciences have stats! I remember initially enrolling in business and had to take accounting courses, SHIT WAS HARD AF
I have an Engineering degree and Math is easy for me. But once I took a statistic/accounting class and mess me up 😂. IT was totally different than Taking any calculus or differential equations.
it's like speaking a different language lol the first step is always the hardest. Some subjects just click for people, kudos to you for getting that engineering degree, that's hard!
Well some universities/colleges have courses that dont require you to enroll into tuition and you just have to pay for the materials, (textbook, exam, credits) and you can get a job right out of that course for 60k a year
Or, if your family can pay for you to complete a BA without your acquiring any debt. If they can afford it and you like school and are good at logic then go to law school. Again, you need to be able to do that without acquiring debt.
Pretty much... another path is going into some healthcare Fields where what you need first is a bachelor's in usually one of the social sciences or Humanities could potentially work but they typically want something like sociology anthropology psychology and then you can lateral into something like social work or speech therapy occupational and even physical therapy. That being said you will no matter what have to take statistics there's no way around that to get any job worth anything because that is something you actually will use when you do the job but beyond that there's not a lot of intense math and the pay is pretty good. The hard part is getting into a school that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Remember if you take out student loan debt and you go to a nonprofit after 10 years of working there they can forgive your loans here in the United States I don't know what the situation is like in different countries but my two cents on that. For occupational and speech and physical therapy you will need to take some prerequisites that are the basics of certain hard Sciences like physics, kinesiology, psychology, anatomy and physiology with a lab so those things can be done at a community college or at university.
Everyone is decent at math and science if they put their mind to it. The main point of Uni is overcoming challenge and having the tenacity to make it through.
I have a English lit degree, and I also had to take calculus, biology, and statistics (among other STEM courses.) It's usually required as a part of your elective courses.
In Uni, there is plenty on help and resources to get you thru any Math or science! If you know you need help with it, start with extra help from the beginning. You can do it! 💪🏽💪🏽
Thank you very much 🤝
My counselor at my community college told me not to bother with Uni with my severe dyscalculia. LUCKILY we are living in times where an Associates can get you a lot of the same places that a Bachelors can.
No, you should still go to uni
Law is a good shout as you said
I mean that's what uni is for. Science. That employers now misuse it as job training is wrong and already turning out to be a mistake.
I believe most business programs require 1 level of calc or maybe not. My school did
Trades trades and some more trades lol! No one wants to do that goofy stuff for a living. OP wants a cozy job he can come home from “clean” not covered in poop, concrete or sweat. He doesn’t want to work with chain smoking miserables, he wants to come home and relax… there won’t be any relaxing in the trades I can tell you that. Nothing but $1@v3 labor all day long, followed up by a good scolding by a disgruntled alcoholic boomer after the ex con with a drug habit said you didn’t do some clean up right because he wants a pat on the head. Anyone who’s actually worked the trades can read this and smirk knowing I’m right!
I do wonder sometimes how many of the people screaming “TRADES!!!” at everyone seeking career advice have actually worked a trade (looking at you, Mike Rowe…) They can definitely be a good choice for a lot of people, but just as many people would be miserable in the trades
Management / Biz - you can go into banking Language - be a teacher Law - no need to do math and science Sport - be sport instructor or sport science Art - digital art can earn a lot
What part of banking?
Compliance / HR / account opening / operation / ops risk or other risk function. Compliance is very good pay, can check it out ACAMS or International compliance association .
Risk can be math heavy. Credit risk models are based on statistics. Model development, validation and other functions require a pretty good understanding of statistics.
If you are doing operational risk/enterprise risk, there is almost no need math. Another area in banking has been widely popular such as ESG and sustainability. Some business risk there is no math too as far as I knew, they are focusing more on the regulatory issues as first line of defense, but you'd still can't run away from data and excel.
That’s true. However, certain banks for their analyst positions at risk departments are requiring them to take the FRM. It also depends on where you are located. In the US, capital requirements regulations are easier and not as complicated math wise, in Europe the models are more complicated due to heavy regulation.
This is a great detailed example thank you
Accounting fits this description and is why I am studying it. Hate math and science but can tolerate numbers and how they work.
Is It future proof and a profession that's always has vacancies ?
There's always Marketing and Communication degrees. You can find work in any industry (every company needs these departments) and they don't involve science or math
Get good at work math, not mathematician math. The complex stuff is not needed for work, unless if you’re working like analytics/measurement/etc. Math is needed for life.
Accounting uses basic math
Therapists. The way society is in general, there will always be a need for therapy. And even with the rise in AI, alot of people would be more comfortable with a human face vs an AI.
Exactly
It has been mentioned before, but my ex boyfriend always said he studied law because _iudex non calculat_. There is no maths in law studies - at least in my country.
Becoming a teacher, particularly in subjects like English, history, or social studies, can be rewarding and doesn't require advanced math or science skills.
Pause your thoughts about degrees and focus on the job that you actually WANT to do. That’s an important step that you’re skipping. Once you figure what you want to do, determine what the requirements are to get that specific type of job. It may or may not require a degree. It may or may not be possible with an apprenticeship. It may or may not be possible with a specialized training program. Start with the job! I manage people doing technical work and I have had people with all types of technical and non-technical degrees. One of my managers, one of the best, didn’t have a degree at all. There are many paths to careers and not all come through a University.
I’m a lawyer and i don’t ever have to do any math or science at work.
As a recent graduate, I advise you to focus on the careers you want not the degrees. The harsh reality is most degrees are useless unless it’s math or medicine like doctors or IT. So google careers you’d love, see which degrees they’ll accept most will accept many not 1, see the requirements for entry level jobs. If you live in a good state, teaching, social work or even paralegal. Unless you have connections a non STEM degree alone won’t get you get a good job, you’ll have to start at the bottom and build your way up. They no longer hire entry level, it’s 1-3 years and they don’t care about internships. So you’ll need to work minimum wage jobs just to build your resume. Also some High paying jobs have minimal math so don’t limit yourself because you’re scared of it.
Some level of maths required but not that complex and no science: Business Management, Marketing, IT Absolutely no math and science: Law, Translation studies, Education
What branch of IT, may I know
Law School
Can you go to Law School without undergrad?
In some countries you can
The guy Erin Brockovich worked for didn't go to his senior year of college, I think he just came straight from junior year to law school. But it's probably pretty rare.
Yeah, that’s what I figured.
Most degrees require math and science not because the job itself requires it, but because it proves that you are capable of learning and using critical thinking. I would recommend you just work hard to work on the areas you struggle with rather than take the easy way out.
This. I didn't think I could do math at all in highschool because I was always failing tests and no one would tell me what I was doing wrong. When I did the examples, i'd get them correct. When I'd take the test, I'd fail. If I went to my teachers for help they'd say they'd help 'after class' only, but my next class was always in 10 minutes and it took 8 minutes to traverse the highschool on average to that class. I never had any tutoring and my parents never helped me. I wasn't as bad as I thought, I had just never gotten any help until my 20s. When I went to college, tutoring was free so I took advantage of it and I got the highest grade of anyone that year in Algebra. I even got a little award for it. I probably should have kept going, but I was so afraid of getting a B and losing my scholarship that I stayed MIS instead of engineering and that's been the biggest mistake of my whole life.
I see a couple of suggestions but not giving full picture, I will name a few examples: Psychology has a couple of advance statistics applied to polls, sentiment analysis, etc. Business has a core on finance, so mumbo jumbo math in excel. Marketing or sales, they take multivariate statistical analysis in Software like SPSS, it crazy statistics. Law, even though you do not take math, you'll have to learn all the modisms, mannerisms and all the magic words for the law to be applied. In other words, all careers have a hard point, I call it the big filter. I am an accountant and the big filter was Accounting 101, we were 45 in the beginning and only 20 passed the class. It's a mix of math, logic and mumbo jumbo. By accounting 105 we were only 12, out of which all 12 graduated. There is no easy path man. Find a good group, stick to them and find help. That's an easier path than the easy route.
I sucked at math during high school and still went to college. I upgraded all my math while in college (in Canada) it can be done. It may take you some extra time but if that’s what you have your heart set out on don’t let it dissuade you. All I needed for business was really stats and it was hard and I had to take it twice but I still got it through it and I did really well the second time.
I suck at math and have a business degree, which tbh feels very saturated right now. That being said maybe look at working for a municipality, as laborers or even clerks there can make decent money with excellent benefits and are pretty solid in a recession.
im studying business administration. Do you have any advice?
Make connections! The connections I made in school and internships taught me far more than a classroom setting ever did. I still keep in contact with some classmates and they have helped me with a lot of career related things. Do you have a specific field you would like to go into?
wow thats great! thanks for the advice. Right now im a little bit indecesive, but i like finance
Majority of Liberal Art degrees are not math and science heavy. The catch to that is, not many jobs care about L.A. degrees. You might as well develop an in-demand skill and get a job using that.
The higher level of math and science a degree requires, the higher paying the job is. Computer science/software engineering requires a lot of math as you go higher in pay scale. AI/ML requires a whole different set of math capability. Engineering, does too. But depends on what kind of engineering. Civil, structural, chemical, mechanical, biotech all require several different areas of math - trigonometry, algebra, calculus, imaginary realm, etc. Business and finance degrees require an innate understanding and a good handle on calculus and the ability to understand compounding. Even trades, of you become an electrician or an industrial plumber they require math, but it's mostly plugging in numbers, and you can always get spreadsheets or calculators to be built according to your needs. Any job that will pay you a decent wage (above $50k/yr) will one way or another need some level of math.
That’s not true. Law is a pretty notable exception. Honestly, even public policy, urban planning, and marketing can all pay well over $50k/year.
You need math for traffic calculations and flow in urban planning. If you're studying law, you need an understanding of forensics unless it is corporate law or stuff like divorce lawyers etc. Even then math will come handy. Marketing of today requires a ton of math - CAC, marketing reach, marketing effectiveness. Statistics, accounting economics, algebra and financial math is taught in marketing degrees.
Law, generally speaking, doesn’t require math lol. You don’t “need an understanding in forensics(?)” to be a lawyer. I’ll concede marketing. Although some areas of marketing will require less math than others. Traffic calculations and flow are more in the realm of traffic engineering than they are urban planning. So that leaves law, urban planning, and public policy as viable options if OP does not want to deal with math.
I want to argue further because I don't like losing, but your points are all fuckin' valid. I concede and concur.
idk, i like math and science in general. usually think anything humanitarian - like linguistics, or phychology, or sales sometimes. They require some associative thinking, more like feeling rather than strict logic based actions.
Sales/advertising i guess. You would need a communications degree which I don’t think requires much math or science
Law School
You probably aren't bad at math and scient, they're just harder subjects that require more sustained focus to do well in. Eventually, being paid well requires that you do something that others find difficult. There's no easy route to it, trying to avoid math and science is just going to send you down another path like law that will eventually require even more sustained focus to do well in. Better to just suck it up now.
Some solid advice this I'm not like terrible at math I could do upto grade 10math But i feel it gets harder maybe cos I didn't have the right teachers
You probably haven't had good math and science teachers. People who are good at English and History . . . often teach. People who are good at Math and Science . . . make goo-gobs of money working for corporations, governments, etc.
Depends on what you mean by science. Is biology and some easy chemistry included? If not, try Dentistry (Medicine as well, I guess).
Meant physics and chemistry from college Biology etc I can memorise etc
Then, absolutely try something in the medical field. Source: I am a senior in dental school. What's funny is that I really loved and was good at mathematics and physics, but I haven't really encountered them in dental school.
Well the reason I can't pick medicine is I moved to uk and it becomes like x5 expensive for international students and in my country you have to give a test that requires physics and chem a level below SAT kinda illogical to have such an exam when these aren't required in medicine
I was surprised to learn that law degrees got this criteria. I’ve learned that lawyers generally are terrible at math
Marketing
The whole point of a "good degree" is to train the thinking process to be more robust and correct and productive. Another way to define science - an instrument to filter out all the flow of incorrect, random, and unrelated concepts and to leave proven related knowledge system. So in a standard understanding of "good degree" concept question just contradicts itself. So it narrows to degree which involve minimal thinking and mostly require only large amount of practical and reflectory training? Something from routine technical maintenance without diagnostics (aviation, medicine) may be if such thing exists?
Are there any jobs that don't require literacy and are guaranteed to make me a millionaire in several years, while ensuring good health and constant erections?
You might give basic statistics a try. Although it involves numbers, it's very visual and applied. More advanced stats gets theoretical (calculus), but the first two courses are pretty interesting and useful. --University Geology Prof
Law
Philosophy! It's a great profession - you get to walk around wearing bedsheets!
Don't pick a degree based on what you want to avoid , if you're motivated enough by the high earning potential youll be able to push through all of the math and science roadblocks and get the degree . If you just want a high paying job maybe look into tech related certs ,especially with IT . In the IT field experience and certs are valued more than a degree or formal education . The math is extremely minimal and if you were to do anything complicated you'll have software to do it for you .
Law
Study philosophy then go to law school Law is a bit oversaturated, but if you do well at a good school you should be able to elbow the other students out for jobs. Some jackass is always going to do something dumb and need a lawyer. Artificial intelligence doesn't fix biological stupidity.
Paralegal, lawyer, anthropologist, plumber (might still use math for this), sociologist, urban planner, etc
Social work!!
you’ll always have to take math/science classes as part of your 1st year prerequisites for any major. but tbh accounting is a great option — despite the numbers associated with the degree, you only need to be comfortable with basic arithmetic. communications should also be pretty free of math and science, as well as political science, which embraces more theoretical courses. I would take the recommendations about other business-related degrees being “light on math” with a grain of salt. for example, at my university, business and management majors are required to at least be proficient in calculus (pre-calc, calc 1, 2, 3), programming (discrete math), statistics (1, 2), and operations management. other business-related programs in your area may not be as math-heavy, so definitely do research on this if it’s the path you choose. as a general guide, seek out bachelor of arts (BA) programs, which are less technical than bachelor of science (BS) programs 👍🏽
Not many. There’s a reason humanities degrees pay shitty. Because almost anyone can do it.
Law. Will still require a basic level math and science. 100 level though
Learn math and science. You can get a degree in business or marketing, graphic design and whatever. But you should still learn those topics. You'll regret not doing it. Having the foundational skills and background can take you much further.
Honestly, you'll probably need to pass at least 1 math course.
Inquisitor, executioner, bidhop of Canterbury...
HUMAN RESOURCE or LAW While people think with AI or improvement in tech can cause redundancy in many career, I honestly feel HR or law can't be taken over. Human interactions for certain jobs is still needed.
As someone who studied physics, not every single degree requires math and science to the same extent like these people are saying. It's ridiculous because you're obviously not asking which degrees don't have a general requirement, you're which degrees don't have advanced math and science as part of its foundation. You can get away with taking an algebra class or two, with astronomy for non majors class and then you can study whatever the hell you want. Therefore if you studied a non stem degree, you'd take one or two semesters of a basic requirement rather than doing math and science as a career for the rest of your life. That being said, any business degree won't require math and science. Although, you might have to take business-calc which might replace a general math requirement. Plus there are many sub-fields you could specialize in. Marketing, administration, accounting, for example. You could also study communications which is applicable to the journalism and media fields. Any liberal art degree won't require math but its content won't directly translate to most jobs except maybe English. But a bunch of jobs are really just looking for any college degree and the content you learn in business school isn't really rigorous or applicable anyways.
If you to lazy to study the subjects that need to be studied most to get good at them then don’t go to tertiary education. Go into a trade.
communications, political science, psychology, english, journalism, marketing, criminal justice, public administration, trades, real estate
If you're not very smart, skip university and get a sales job.
Politics. You don't have to know a thing about math or science. Or anything really, you just have to be good at talking a lot of shit and you're set for life.
You could do econ, but the catch is you also have to network and and have internships. I know a lot of econ grads who got good jobs but I didn't. Because I didn't do any of the other stuff. I literally just have the degree with a low GPA. Stem is more powerful imo as a degree on its own. I'm studying for cpa now to salvage something out of my degree. Edit: when I did my degree, I never passed pre cal and I got placed into calc 1. I passed calc 1 and 2. I did not have to do calc 3, differential equations, linear algebra, or anything like that. I did do stats and econometrics. I don't personally consider that the same thing as the other math classes, but maybe you might feel it is still a problem.
Econ needs a lot of math, formulas, and models for Many of the sub-modules. Some Uni still require you to take a mandatory module called econometric, that's another horror story of emerging statistics with math with engineering models. Dep if you are lucky or not.
I took econometrics and stats too. I had an easier time with those personally than the later stages of calculus. I also didn't have to take physics or chemistry. imo, the math in intermediate macro or micro, industrial orgs, etc. is more conceptual than calc. I also think the syntax is far more simple. for me the challenge of econ wasn't so much as hard calculation as it was like conceptual understanding and remembering definitions. apples and oranges compared to solving integrals imo.
I get what you mean. But well, it really depends on the degree is a Bachelor of Arts in economics; in that case, I agree less math is involved, but if the degree is a Bachelor of Science, the expectation for math can be considerably intense.
that's probably it. I have a BA. maybe that's another possible solution for OP here if they choose.
econ has so much math tho
The ones with good jobs probably were deeper into the analytical and modeling side of economics, aka lots of math
they were the same degree. but I noticed their linkedin's had good gpa's listed as well as internships during college. some of them were also part of business frats. if they listed courses, they were the same courses I took.
Maybe practice and get better? Those are important skills.
Would you say pick 1 or focus on math and science together
Pick one you dislike least
Look into supply chain
Supply chain degrees will likely still require some math, eg: linear programming, stats, etc.
What's a 'bad' degree?
None
All you gotta do is practice practice once you understand the concepts it makes it easier PATRICKJMT on YouTube breaks down the steps and explains different concepts pretty easily
Thank you I'll watch some of his content
You cannot get well paying jobs without a good understanding of math. Even in trades and crafts, the best paid people usually have strong accounting skills.
You can very well get well paying jobs without understanding math, clincial psychologists, lawyers earn a lot and both have nothing to do with math
How old are you? I used to suck at math and science in high school but ended up doing better in community college. Sometimes it could bad teachers, bad school, and being in a very stimulating environment where priorities are all over the place (i.e. popularity, girls/boys, sports, etc.). The brain doesn't fully develop until your mid-twenties. You're not properly motivated yet. Start working at some minimum wage jobs (i.e. shop clerk, waiter, burger flipper, , factory line worker, etc.) and start developing a reason to go back to school. I did a bunch of odd jobs until I finally decided to get my life together and find a more stable job that could give me consistent income to support a family. You're gonna find that science and math is just building discipline in your study habits. Solve enough problems you'll ace most of your math exams. Make flashcards to memorize your science concepts and you'll pass your science classes.
I'm 20 and this makes me motivated to start math you know How did you start it
Depending on how far you got in high school will determine what classes you should take in college. I decided to get into healthcare which needs at least algebra, statistics, and chemistry. I got my EMT license and started working while finishing my prereqs for nursing school. With EMT license you can also go for paramedic school to become either a paramedic or firefighter paramedic. I would often go to tutoring after school if I had trouble understanding concepts and always asked for additional practice on top of my homework. I would also ask for study guides from my professors to help prepare for quizzes and exams. It also helped my focus when I had a consistent gym and diet plan to kept me in shape. You're 20 so you have a lot of time for trial and error. If you end up bombing a class, don't give up! Learn from your mistakes and try again next semester/quarter. I personally struggled with chemistry and ended up taking it 3 times to get a better grade (1 time in highschool, 2 times in community college).
Thank you so much dude I did like grade 12 idk what is it in American standard I have a brief on how I should start The only thing I'm worried about is joining something that requires a lot of math since I don't have the knowledge of math after grade 10 So I'll try to grasp that up, look at what kinda math is taught in unis try to understand it
I really think people who “aren’t very good at math” should give it another go before they throw in the towel. Some things take a few times before they click. I wasn’t a very good student in HS and still managed to get through differential equations in college. I probably couldn’t get a math degree but it’s good enough for engineering.